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Crawford

Jul 11, 2013, 1:42 AM

That's a gross misconception. Dallas, TX is warmer year round than NYC because is obviously further south, but in the summer, NYC can be just as hot, if not hotter, than Dallas. :

Dallas is typically much hotter than NYC in the summer, and Dallas is extremely humid. Trust me, it's VERY hot and humid; NYC is nowhere close.

NYCrules

Jul 11, 2013, 3:01 PM

I'm just satiated with the look of this!

k2mak (http://www.flickr.com/photos/10452713@N00/with/9251033693/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7455/9251033693_4717a4d298_h.jpg

401PAS

Jul 11, 2013, 8:55 PM

This thing is a frig'n masterpiece from any angle!!!!!!! :tup:
Truly one of my favorite of all the building in NYC!!!!

I'm just satiated with the look of this!

k2mak (http://www.flickr.com/photos/10452713@N00/with/9251033693/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7455/9251033693_4717a4d298_h.jpg

QUEENSNYMAN

Jul 11, 2013, 9:36 PM

This might have been asked before but will the setback be opened to people who work in the building?

Streamliner

Jul 12, 2013, 12:49 AM

This might have been asked before but will the setback be opened to people who work in the building?

NYGuy had posted this article awhile back describing an outdoor terrace "for tenants to use as functional space, like Rock Center"

http://commercialobserver.com/2012/09/men-at-work-silverstein-properties-janno-lieber-and-serge-demerjian-talk-wtc/?show=all

NYCrules

Jul 12, 2013, 11:51 AM

davidinasia

Jul 14, 2013, 1:43 AM

This might have been asked before but will the setback be opened to people who work in the building?

Mark my words, Larry will be renting that space out for weddings and bar mitzvahs before you know it. :D

Seriously, it's a known fact that they were looking into installing special guard rails to cut down on the wind speed, to make it more comfortable for guests.

SnipeShot

Jul 14, 2013, 4:51 AM

So, when could we begin to start to see some "tenant style" lighting in this tower?

mrnyc

Jul 15, 2013, 1:32 AM

holy mackeral -- that view from the wtc -- i figured it would be the best, but wow!

TechTalkGuy

Jul 19, 2013, 3:09 PM

It looks better than I thought.
Glad I took a few weeks off from this place.
Looking at construction every single day takes away the discovery.

whiteford

Jul 19, 2013, 5:26 PM

Modern = crap

Dont get me wrong theres a lot of very good modern architecture, but most sucks and this one is just a big glass boring box, really is, sorry.

i think is looks fantastic. its not like there isn't already to many gargoyles in New York anyhow. not every building has to be some tacky/gaudy, overly embellished shrine. simple shapes and geometry are where its at for me. and the glass is to die for. did i mention that it is 977 feet tall. give us a break. this is skyscraperpage and if you don't like big tall buildings being built in New York, well then, whats up with you?:shrug:

Perklol

Jul 19, 2013, 7:01 PM

i think is looks fantastic. its not like there isn't already to many gargoyles in New York anyhow. not every building has to be some tacky/gaudy, overly embellished shrine. simple shapes and geometry are where its at for me
^This

pnapp1

Jul 19, 2013, 8:28 PM

http://www.wtcphotos.com/photos/wtc4_2013-07-11_p1.jpg

Joe Woolhead
Courtesy of: Silverstein Properties
Taken: July 10, 2013

chris08876

Jul 23, 2013, 5:42 AM

Love the design. Can really appreciate it from the air and more so from the street. It just screams corporate power. A money making monolith or really the little brother to the massive glass beast its across from.

eleven=11

Jul 23, 2013, 10:00 AM

love that GIANT number 4
looks great

is that the name of this building ??
or is it 150 Greenwich ??

also cant wait to see inside pics of the lobby.....

OptimumPx

Jul 23, 2013, 5:13 PM

love that GIANT number 4
looks great

is that the name of this building ??
or is it 150 Greenwich ??

also cant wait to see inside pics of the lobby.....

Both really.

It's official name is 4 World Trade Center, and it's street address is 150 Greenwich St.

Acer1

Jul 24, 2013, 11:02 PM

Okay, maybe I'm a little confused here, but I was under the impression that the top half of 4WTC was supposed to "reflect" 1WTC in the window panes. How come no one's taken a photo of the 4WTC windows with 1WTC reflection in it? Dumb question, I suppose.

iiConTr0v3rSYx

Jul 25, 2013, 12:06 AM

Here you go......

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3702/8861063033_e9da9aaae4_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/keithmichaelnyc/8861063033/)
One In Four (http://www.flickr.com/photos/keithmichaelnyc/8861063033/) by Keith Michael NYC (http://www.flickr.com/people/keithmichaelnyc/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7376/9217549131_c9e677921f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/keithmichaelnyc/9217549131/)
Which is it? (http://www.flickr.com/photos/keithmichaelnyc/9217549131/) by Keith Michael NYC (http://www.flickr.com/people/keithmichaelnyc/), on Flickr

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5473/9217550503_c5339e197c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/keithmichaelnyc/9217550503/)
One in Four (http://www.flickr.com/photos/keithmichaelnyc/9217550503/) by Keith Michael NYC (http://www.flickr.com/people/keithmichaelnyc/), on Flickr

Acer1

Jul 25, 2013, 4:59 AM

iiConTr0v3rSYx, thank you! That made my day right there. :)

Silverfox

Jul 25, 2013, 6:51 AM

Fumihiko Maki is a genius.

JKL1234-

Jul 26, 2013, 8:20 PM

Such a glassy building. I love how you can see inside :)

The North One

Jul 26, 2013, 8:30 PM

NYGuy had posted this article awhile back describing an outdoor terrace "for tenants to use as functional space, like Rock Center"

http://commercialobserver.com/2012/09/men-at-work-silverstein-properties-janno-lieber-and-serge-demerjian-talk-wtc/?show=all

Was reading the article and cant help but wonder what the hell he's talking about here?

"Bridges in the hub?
Mr. Demerjian: There is a bridge that was created over the subway box, a clear span so you can walk underneath. It’s 180 feet. He didn’t want columns. 180 feet clear span, which is great, but there is a price to pay for that. On the west side, there is a bridge structure over the PATH wall, which are the entrances down to the PATH station. That is a complex structure. It makes building really tall buildings look simple."

NYguy

Jul 26, 2013, 9:49 PM

I'm just satiated with the look of this!

k2mak (http://www.flickr.com/photos/10452713@N00/with/9251033693/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7455/9251033693_4717a4d298_h.jpg

Just a gorgeous building.

(photo from www.wtc.com - Joe Woolhead)

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/151526344/large.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/151526344/original.jpg

hunser

Aug 3, 2013, 11:30 AM

Only in New York ...

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3723/9363787528_dd9deb0eae_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrperry/9363787528/)
A Dark Night Rises (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrperry/9363787528/) by mrperry (http://www.flickr.com/people/mrperry/), on Flickr

Tectonic

Aug 3, 2013, 2:37 PM

^ Simply Beautiful.

NYC GUY

Aug 3, 2013, 2:44 PM

When is this going to open?

StrongIsland

Aug 3, 2013, 3:39 PM

When is this going to open?

This fall/early winter.

NYguy

Aug 7, 2013, 11:25 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/08/nyregion/a-street-reconstructed-after-9-11-becomes-a-streetscape.html?_r=0

A Street, Reconstructed After 9/11, Becomes a Streetscape

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2013/08/07/nyregion/08BLOCKS-span/08BLOCKS-span-articleLarge.jpg

“Sky Memory,” a delicate, 98-foot-diameter titanium arc by the sculptor Kozo Nishino, has been installed in the lobby of 4 World Trade Center.

By DAVID W. DUNLAP
August 7, 2013

Something remarkable is happening where Greenwich Street used to run through the World Trade Center site. It is becoming Greenwich Street again.

For the first time since reconstruction of the trade center began, a New York City streetscape is taking form. There are sidewalks and curbs, oak trees and honey locusts, street lamps and pigeons. And, as on any street near high-risk targets, there are also ranks of heavily reinforced posts, or bollards.

But even with the bollards, the scene is appealingly open. Only security guards prevent visitors to the National September 11 Memorial from simply walking across Greenwich Street and up to the lobby of 4 World Trade Center, now under construction.

The intersection offers palpable evidence that the monolithic 16-acre superblock that existed before Sept. 11, 2001, has truly been pared down.

Amanda M. Burden, the director of the City Planning Department, said the agency had pushed to re-establish Greenwich and Fulton Streets running through the trade center site as a way of integrating the complex with Lower Manhattan.

“The use of sidewalk materials and their layout complement the memorial in a sophisticated and subtle manner,” she wrote in an e-mail on Tuesday. “There were countless mock-ups and sample reviews to make sure that we got the selection of granite, finishes, proportions and layout just right, including full-scale mock-ups.

“We were also intensively engaged in the bollard design, helping to facilitate an elliptical and tapered form that is effective from a security standpoint but not intrusive in size,” Ms. Burden added.

The portion of Greenwich Street between Vesey and Liberty Streets has existed in recent years, but only as a construction haul road. Seeing the partly finished landscaping brings home the fact that one day it will be restored to traffic, though on a highly restricted basis.

The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey is constructing the new section of Greenwich Street, which it expects to complete by the end of 2014. Some time around then, or early in 2015, the authority will move its headquarters into 4 World Trade Center.

Four World Trade Center is a deliberately understated building that cuts the lowest profile of any in the complex (if a 977-foot tower can be said to cut a low profile). As designed by Fumihiko Maki, 84, of Maki and Associates in Tokyo, it also contributes a great deal to the streetscape.

Unlike the rest of the tower, which is skinned in reflective glass, the building’s 47-foot-high lobby is clad in clear glass. It almost seems to embrace the street, a gesture made even stronger by an 80-foot-wide space between columns.

The closeness of the lobby to the memorial imposed a special obligation on Mr. Maki and his client, Silverstein Properties, to create a space that was respectful without being sepulchral. Last week, their intentions for the lobby became clear with the installation of “Sky Memory,” a delicate, 98-foot-diameter titanium arc by the sculptor Kozo Nishino, of Kyoto, Japan. This is his first commission in the United States.

Mr. Nishino has collaborated with Mr. Maki before. But his trade center commission owes itself to a visit by the developer, Larry A. Silverstein, and his wife, Klara, to the ArtCourt Gallery booth at a 2007 art fair in New York City. The gallery represents Mr. Nishino and was showing a model of his work.

“I had no idea about Larry,” recalled Mitsue Yagi, the gallery director. “I said, ‘This artist makes huge-scale artwork.’ Larry said, ‘I’m making a very big building.'”

Despite its great size, the “Sky Memory” sculpture weighs only 474 pounds. It is composed of seven sections of welded, exposed trusswork that are cantilevered and balanced 22 feet above the lobby floor, as if they were floating. The metal shifts in color from deep sapphire blue to pale jade green.

Reflected in the polished black granite wall from which it springs, the arc looks like a circle. Or a zero. Could that be an intentional reference to “ground zero” by an artist whose works are found in the two Japanese cities on which the United States dropped atomic bombs during World War II?

“It’s less about capturing a moment of time in the past,” Mr. Nishino answered during a conversation at the site. “It’s more about looking into the future.” A few days later, he wrote in an e-mail that he had begun thinking about the meaning of ground zero in New York, Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

If the setting of 4 World Trade Center turns out to be thought-provoking as well as attractive, Greenwich Street, north of Liberty, will be a very good streetscape indeed.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2013/08/07/nyregion/08BLOCKS-inline2/08BLOCKS-inline2-popup.jpg

Noll

Aug 10, 2013, 1:12 PM

hunser

Aug 12, 2013, 9:52 PM

maskirovka77 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/maskirovka77/sets/72157634994411624/with/9467887541/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7431/9470665324_6e7faf42d5_h.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7459/9467887541_1cefb33ed5_h.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7283/9467891887_3621dd2dd4_h.jpg

drumz0rz

Aug 21, 2013, 3:27 PM

I saw the window cleaning platform out along the north face a few days ago. I wonder if they'll start giving this building a bath. It looks great now but just wait until all that grime is washed off the glass.

Noll

Sep 4, 2013, 9:59 AM

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7422/9665168797_5ce5f4b674_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelvcalcagno/9665168797/)
new video installation in 4wtc lobby #wtc #videoart #clouds #cloudporn #nyc #vscocam #manhattan #bigscreen #bluesky #indoorsky (http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelvcalcagno/9665168797/) by Michael V. Calcagno (http://www.flickr.com/people/michaelvcalcagno/), on Flickr

401PAS

Sep 4, 2013, 12:59 PM

Hope that the exhaust doesn't cause discoloration of the glass.

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2806/9669732555_6df6defa95_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/66693013@N06/9669732555/)
Tower4_2013090485611 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/66693013@N06/9669732555/) by 401PAS (http://www.flickr.com/people/66693013@N06/), on Flickr

taken from EarthCam

Hudson11

Sep 4, 2013, 1:40 PM

no pope

PhillyToNYC

Sep 4, 2013, 7:03 PM

I see that they have taken a note from the comcast center...

miesian

Sep 4, 2013, 7:25 PM

NYCLuver

Sep 7, 2013, 3:52 AM

September 6th, 2013

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee429/dkny622/DSC00414.jpg (http://s1227.photobucket.com/user/dkny622/media/DSC00414.jpg.html)
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee429/dkny622/DSC00415.jpg (http://s1227.photobucket.com/user/dkny622/media/DSC00415.jpg.html)

Oh_ozzie

Sep 7, 2013, 11:57 PM

Holy Crap those LEDs look gorgeous on 4 wtc ..wow

Onn

Sep 8, 2013, 1:13 PM

The lights do look nice! 1WTC's base, on the other hand, still looks like baloney. :(

NYCLuver

Sep 15, 2013, 3:44 AM

September 14th, 2013

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/DKNY617/DSC00420_zps2a392eab.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/DKNY617/media/DSC00420_zps2a392eab.jpg.html)
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/DKNY617/DSC00421_zps4ee8f9ed.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/DKNY617/media/DSC00421_zps4ee8f9ed.jpg.html)
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/DKNY617/DSC00431_zps91c28c06.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/DKNY617/media/DSC00431_zps91c28c06.jpg.html)
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/DKNY617/DSC00432_zps37e3382f.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/DKNY617/media/DSC00432_zps37e3382f.jpg.html)

Cartouche_C

Sep 15, 2013, 11:33 PM

Can someone tell me if the spire is going to keep those "rings" or are they going to be removed eventually?

Roadcruiser1

Sep 16, 2013, 12:26 AM

Can someone tell me if the spire is going to keep those "rings" or are they going to be removed eventually?

Wrong thread, but I am going to answer the question still. Nope they will stay!!!!!!!!!!

Enigmatism415

Sep 20, 2013, 5:22 AM

4WTC has one hell of a terrace! I hope that 3WTC will have something similar available to the public.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zMCxmdkcRY

drumz0rz

Oct 2, 2013, 3:58 PM

Open House NY is doing a tour of 4 WTC! Of course it's already sold out... I hope one of the lucky bastards that got in is a poster here. I want to see some pictures!

http://www.eventbrite.com/event/7870285235/eorg

NYC GUY

Oct 3, 2013, 12:46 AM

I really like 4 WTC's night lights. They are on again.

mac78130

Oct 4, 2013, 7:00 PM

Website is up http://4wtc.com/

hunser

Oct 4, 2013, 7:49 PM

What a fine tower! So classy.

From http://4wtc.com/: This is NOT a RENDERING!!

http://1.2.3.12/bmi/4wtc.com/upload/building/gallery/exterior/arial_original.jpg

3zMCxmdkcRY

http://1.2.3.10/bmi/4wtc.com/upload/building/design/WTC_Design-header_blank_original.jpg

UTEPman

Oct 4, 2013, 8:52 PM

I really like 4 WTC's night lights. They are on again.

Does 4WTC have some sort of special lighting, or are you referring to the construction lights?

ILNY

Oct 7, 2013, 4:10 AM

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2877/10128680413_03d7b82848_b.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5528/10128587296_d97d639658_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7380/10128540445_2ff38ac8c5_b.jpg

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http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2874/10128467214_d1f29483cc_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7331/10128460964_02228705fe_b.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5325/10128655233_a6a97945de_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3766/10128582146_724ce29185_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7304/10128486174_27eb41ecf2_b.jpg

Skyguy_7

Oct 7, 2013, 1:15 PM

[img]http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7304/10128486174_27eb41ecf2_b.jpg

I see what you did there. Great capture. Honestly, the best looking glass I've ever seen.

ThatOneGuy

Oct 8, 2013, 1:30 AM

That base is fiiine...

NYC2ATX

Oct 8, 2013, 5:00 AM

I love it, but they'd better haul ass if they want to have this finished before the end of the year.

babybackribs2314

Oct 8, 2013, 5:48 AM

The chameleon! :)

New York YIMBY (http://nyyimby.com)

https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/q75/s720x720/946014_385086651593759_340642040_n.jpg

Yackemflaber69

Oct 8, 2013, 6:45 AM

when is the elevator coming down?

ILNY

Oct 8, 2013, 1:07 PM

I love it, but they'd better haul ass if they want to have this finished before the end of the year.

The tower supposed to be ready this fall but it does not look like it will be finished this year.

woodrow

Oct 8, 2013, 2:19 PM

G*ddamn that building is beautiful.

drumz0rz

Oct 8, 2013, 2:38 PM

Does 4WTC have some sort of special lighting, or are you referring to the construction lights?
The tower has white horizontal lights which trace the two roof edges. It actually looks amazing. I'll try and snap a picture of it tonight for you. They've been on consistently since the end of last week.

UTEPman

Oct 8, 2013, 5:12 PM

The tower has white horizontal lights which trace the two roof edges. It actually looks amazing. I'll try and snap a picture of it tonight for you. They've been on consistently since the end of last week.

Thanks! I'd like to see that

mac78130

Oct 14, 2013, 4:06 AM

Lookin good! http://www.flickr.com/photos/joevare/10259566834/sizes/l/

patriotizzy

Oct 14, 2013, 7:09 PM

I'd like to some pictures of the lighting, as I've only seen a couple. If someone could help, it would be great. Thanks!

nyc7

Oct 15, 2013, 1:05 AM

Sorry, the pictures aren't that great, i was in a rush.
Either way, probably one of the most stunning building i have seen
http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af94/KWBehn/IMG_0125_zpsddc3f401.jpg

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af94/KWBehn/IMG_0109_zps5add93a1.jpg

Oakydoke

Oct 19, 2013, 12:52 AM

Stunning! the glass..... Wow!
Last time I was down there was Thanksgiving 2011. Guess I better start saving now for a summer road trip ;)

Tectonic

Oct 19, 2013, 2:10 AM

10.18.13

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5523/10354700973_191b67cac1_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7301/10354529506_a24b0b95fb_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7311/10354529175_6c72eaaba6_b.jpg
©tectonic

Roadcruiser1

Oct 19, 2013, 8:08 AM

Here are mines. October 18th 2013.

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/9f/0a/69/9f0a69f2a293e26a26f1f5c92dbbaad9.jpg

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Link to my Pininterest........http://www.pinterest.com/roadcruiser1/boards/

patriotizzy

Oct 19, 2013, 4:13 PM

Fabb

Oct 20, 2013, 5:42 AM

Yes it is !
A third iteration of the missing volume, in the form of an extra ten floors at the top, would have been nice.

NYdude

Oct 20, 2013, 3:49 PM

Perfect and beautiful building! Wow!

pnapp1

Oct 21, 2013, 5:36 PM

Yes it is !
A third iteration of the missing volume, in the form of an extra ten floors at the top, would have been nice.

I would have loved to seen that as well. Here's a quick photoshop of what it would look like. I hope you're not mad tectonic. I was the perfect photo to do it with. :tup:

http://www.wtcphotos.com/photos/wtc4_moreFloors.jpg
Original photo by ©tectonic

Tectonic

Oct 21, 2013, 6:28 PM

Ha that's cool. It does looks better. I don't mind individuals playing around with my photos. I do mind media websites, publications and companies using them without permission. That's why I usually put the watermarks on them.

Anyways good job. :)

ArtDecoRevival

Oct 22, 2013, 5:11 AM

I can admit when I'm wrong and I was very wrong when I looked at the renders for this building years ago and wrote it off as dull and unimaginative. I do like it better than WTC 1 (though I'm not sure how much that has to do with the compromised spire). WTC 4's glass is so clean and beautiful and the sharp angles remind me a touch (in a good way) of Hong Kong's great modern skyscrapers. With the rest of the towers complimenting it, the WTC complex will be a sight to behold when it's done and will match in grandeur (at least as a whole, if not the towers individually) any real-estate projects happening in the Middle East or Asia.

Biff

Oct 22, 2013, 3:19 PM

I find it crazy that in most photos of the completed building it looks like a rendering. Also interesting in some skyline shots from some angles it appears to almost disappear. The glass is incredible. This building really turned out amazing.

xnyr

Oct 22, 2013, 7:34 PM

Noll

Oct 23, 2013, 9:57 AM

vkristof

Oct 23, 2013, 5:53 PM

Originally posted by Vertical_Gotham on SSC:

http://distilleryimage1.ak.instagram.com/889bbd203b6511e3a59b22000a9f3c66_8.jpg

A completely rebuilt Greenwich Street, at sunset #wtcprogress @wtcprogress

http://instagram.com/p/fySPr7BzdN/

Thx for posting the photo. Note the anti-truck bomb bollards on the east side of Greenwich St.

When will this section of Greenwich open to pedestrians?

I THINK the building is supposed to open (in some form) in November, is this correct?

Tectonic

Oct 23, 2013, 6:36 PM

That's great.

QUEENSNYMAN

Oct 24, 2013, 12:33 PM

vkristof

Oct 24, 2013, 2:37 PM

From the Daily News this morning:

o inside — and on top of — 4 World Trade Center with the Daily News
The tower offers stunning views and serenity befitting its hallowed site.

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According to The Daily News, the building is opening November 12th and the tower's section of Greenwich St "will soon re-open". This section of Greenwich did not exist when the Twin Towers and plaza were there.

cwilly

Oct 24, 2013, 4:19 PM

According to The Daily News, the building is opening November 12th and the tower's section of Greenwich St "will soon re-open". This section of Greenwich did not exist when the Twin Towers and plaza were there.

Is it just me or are all of the arrows on the street facing south, implying it is a one way street heading south. How will the street open before they are done with the construction of the transportation hub?

vkristof

Oct 24, 2013, 5:04 PM

Is it just me or are all of the arrows on the street facing south, implying it is a one way street heading south. How will the street open before they are done with the construction of the transportation hub?

Thx: hadn't noticed the arrows. I'll go back & look.

It will be closed by construction barriers/fencing north of Cortlandt Street where the unbuilt towers & transportation hub start. the article made no mention of Cortlandt St or the IRT Cortlandt St subway station.

In addition, AFAIK, the northern portion of Greenwich within the WTC is blocked by the temporary PATH terminal headhouse.

From my perspective I would simply like to go downtown and stand on a portion Greenwich St that hasn't existed in half a century, before the weather turns nasty.

EDIT: Yeah, the arrows on Greenwich are pointing south, but there will be no regular auto traffic traffic passing THROUGH the WTC site from the north. William Ma's photo from last week (link below) shows both sides of Greenwich in front of 4WTC. Both sides have anti truck bomb bollards, as you'd expect.
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/b9/d7/6a/b9d76a6a2f86ac0f39a82df16a4482a9.jpg

NYC GUY

Oct 24, 2013, 5:45 PM

what about the construction elevator it's still up.

drumz0rz

Oct 24, 2013, 7:18 PM

ILNY

Oct 25, 2013, 12:27 AM

what about the construction elevator it's still up.

The building will be only partially open on November 12, mostly lobby and perhaps few office floors. Retail part will not be ready and I am not sure when transportation concourse which connects to PATH will open. Also, Port Authority who owns 601,000 square feet of offices wants to sublease a quarter of its space.

The good news is all construction fence around the tower will be removed on November 12th.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-23/port-authority-weighs-subleasing-world-trade-center-space.html

vkristof

Oct 25, 2013, 12:42 AM

If I recall correctly, at the request of the NYPD, the streets going through the site will be closed to regular traffic. They plan to install blocks similar to the ones found by Wall St. and only authorized vehicles will be allowed onto the street.

I personally hate that idea. 1 WTC is basically bomb-proof and they're all surrounded by high-tech bomb sniffing bollards. I don't see why this is needed. Renders to this day show traffic flowing through, but that won't be the case. With no traffic, it seems weird to go through the effort of repaving those streets as full blown streets. I would have preferred to see the design modified to eliminate the streets, and just make it all pedestrian concourse, or maybe keep the streets but blend them into the concourse more, and mask their utilitarian purpose.

IIRC there has been a back and forth battle about regular vehicles on these streets for years. In any case, pedestrians should have access to the south end of Greenwich Real-Soon-Now. Greenwich St IS a southbound one way street north of the WTC complex.

This recent NY Post article has some details about the tower opening & a tidbit about the west end of the WTC East/West Connector opening later this week.
Note that this story has a different spin to possible subleasing than the Bloomberg story posted by ILNY above:

http://nypost.com/2013/10/23/port-authority-has-wtc-space-to-spare/

nyc7

Oct 27, 2013, 10:41 PM

Saw this pick on SSP. The glass on 4WTC is so reflective, the reflection of 3WTC almost makes it look as if 4WTC is a clad podium with the core slightly above

http://www.weartrends.com/Files/Articles/635183745202923976.jpg

Image credits to http://www.weartrends.com/PhotoShow.aspx?type=1&id=17975&pic=/Files/Articles/S_635183745202923976.jpg

tommaso

Oct 27, 2013, 10:45 PM

as all parties hit their peak...what will people do when this area is fully built? seems to me like a dream trifecta of making money, spending it and relaxing!:cool:

cadiomals

Oct 28, 2013, 12:03 AM

From the view of the photo above you can really see just how far along the Transit Hub and 3WTC are coming. The Hub is making very noticeable progress and the podium of 3WTC is largely complete. When funding comes building the tower itself should be relatively speedy. 2WTC is the only stagnant project, but at least now I can finally see all this coming together to become an all-around great site.

Tectonic

Oct 28, 2013, 1:01 AM

I would hate to see Hudson Yards section 1 done before this.

weidncol

Oct 28, 2013, 1:13 AM

Does anyone know if the original South Bridge will stay there or are they eventually getting rid of it?

OptimumPx

Oct 28, 2013, 11:58 AM

Does anyone know if the original South Bridge will stay there or are they eventually getting rid of it?

It's staying. It'll connect to Liberty Park.

ThatOneGuy

Oct 29, 2013, 3:08 AM

Does anyone know if the original South Bridge will stay there or are they eventually getting rid of it?

It's the last standing part of the original WTC! Why would they get rid of it?

colemonkee

Oct 29, 2013, 5:31 AM

Really a shame that the north side of the memorial plaza has so much concrete and so little grass. Would feel a lot better if it had as much grass as the southwestern part kitty corner to it.

cadiomals

Oct 29, 2013, 11:46 AM

Really a shame that the north side of the memorial plaza has so much concrete and so little grass. Would feel a lot better if it had as much grass as the southwestern part kitty corner to it.

That's probably because that part is still clearly under construction, and they have yet to finish putting in the rest of the trees and grass.

NYguy

Nov 5, 2013, 2:00 PM

www.wtc.com

http://www.wtc.com/images/4wtc_opening.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/153237202/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/153237203/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/153237204/original.jpg

MrSlippery519

Nov 5, 2013, 3:02 PM

Odd so this opens in a week and the elevator is still up? Anyone have any progress pictures from that angle?

Yackemflaber69

Nov 5, 2013, 5:37 PM

Thats strange that there gonna open it with the elevators

NYC GUY

Nov 5, 2013, 10:23 PM

I think they definitly will get the elevator down in time it's finishing the facade that I can't see being finished at least till December 1st.

Davidsam52

Nov 6, 2013, 12:22 AM

The external elevator is being dismantled as we speak. :)

ILNY

Nov 6, 2013, 12:27 AM

Odd so this opens in a week and the elevator is still up? Anyone have any progress pictures from that angle?

It is not unusual for a tall building to open finished floors while still under construction. This was the case with Trump Tower in Chicago and that is how One57 will open next month.

vkristof

Nov 6, 2013, 10:49 PM

It is not unusual for a tall building to open finished floors while still under construction. This was the case with Trump Tower in Chicago and that is how One57 will open next month.

The Chicago Tribune states:
That makes next week's ceremonies, which will include Tuesday's performance by the New York Philharmonic Orchestra and a Wednesday opening, seem more like marketing hoopla than a bona fide opening. Indeed, 4 World Trade Center is, for now, a shell. Tenants will start moving in next year.

http://4wtc.com/see4yourself/news-events/4-wtc-ground-zeros-gentle-giant

NYguy

Nov 6, 2013, 11:38 PM

It is not unusual for a tall building to open finished floors while still under construction. This was the case with Trump Tower in Chicago and that is how One57 will open next month.

Right, it's not unusual at all, especially with large buildings. In this case, the opening is more ceremonial. But the Twin towers had people moving in before the upper floors were completed.