Surrey/South Fraser Updates

[Equinox71]

Was at RBC (Central City branch - King George and 102 Ave) today talking to a mortgage specialist and he volunteered that a 45-story tower has been decided upon for that lot and employees have been told that the bank will be moving into a new location while it is being built (he waved in the general direction of The Hub). He was told that construction would start when Georgetown is wrapping up so that's quite a ways down the line. Obviously this is a very unofficial source but interesting to note none the less.

[officedweller]

45 storey office or residential or mixed use?
At that site, hopefully it would have a lot of office space.

[CoryHolmes]

. Obviously this is a very unofficial source but interesting to note none the less.

Meh, about as valid as an Orange Vest Guy, so we'll take it at face value :D

[Nites]

45 storey office or residential or mixed use?
At that site, hopefully it would have a lot of office space.

According to this map that lot has to be mixed use 7.5 FAR

http://cansellmyhome.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/CityCentre_LandUse_With_With_Lots_July_2013-subject-site..jpg

[Nites]

Meh, about as valid as an Orange Vest Guy, so we'll take it at face value :D

I thought of the same guy

[officedweller]

Thanks.
'Mixed Use' is a funny term though, because retail at grade and all residential above is still mixed use.

[Nites]

Thanks.

'Mixed Use' is a funny term though, because retail at grade and all residential above is still mixed use.

What would look nice there is a 12 floor office podium if it's actually going to be a 45 floor tower. Since it's on a prominent corner. Personally, I would save that spot for a dedicated office tower.

[officedweller]

Agreed, but chances are it'll just be an office podium unless its a big office developer.

[SpongeG]

is that location inside the mall parking lot? the west side of KGH?

[Nites]

is that location inside the mall parking lot? the west side of KGH?

https://i.gyazo.com/eff7b207d2d18a7baaac042425558dbb.jpg

[SpongeG]

oh ok i know where it is now. thanks.

[officedweller]

and the GEC tower site is just to the west of that RBC site, isn't it?
Hopefully they get more frontage on KGB.



http://i.imgur.com/ELFX14j.jpg

Application Progress: https://apps.surrey.ca/Online-Development-Inquiry/?year=20&seq=0071

[Urbanmetro]

Homeless shelter beside the TD bank on 104th ave is being dismantled. All the stairs have been removed. I wonder if that will change the demographic of the central Surrey area? Time will tell. I have a feeling things will start to slow down as the real impact of a globally indebted society takes hold.

[brophy87]

Looking out your window in Surrey lately: https://www.reddit.com/r/SurreyBC/comments/irsrsq/whalley_looks_great_in_4k_dolby_vision/

[e-clam9]

Looking out your window in Surrey lately: https://www.reddit.com/r/SurreyBC/comments/irsrsq/whalley_looks_great_in_4k_dolby_vision/

Surrey should have many more buildings than this photo by 2045 :haha:

[EhJay]

Building on 140 St between Green Timbers Way and 100 Ave is STILL under construction.
https://i.ibb.co/sRLdM4j/IMG-20200916-171500.jpg (https://ibb.co/xLVtRbh)
https://i.ibb.co/pd0pTyd/IMG-20200916-171501.jpg (https://ibb.co/sqmr4Hq)

Picture by me: 2020/09/16

[GMasterAres]

Yah that building has been under construction forever. The last few months though it has seriously picked up to the point I think they've done 90% of the work the last 3 or 4 months. But for months it just really sat. It was completely topped out before the new buildings on the corner of 140 and Fraser Highway started digging. And today, that building is just finishing up landscaping and near ready for occupancy and this one you just showed is still not quite there.

I do think it is the slowest construction in Surrey ever. Makes me wonder. Would seem to indicate the development company ran out of money at some point and I wonder if the remaining construction is sound and corners haven't been cut.

[officedweller]

Check out the progress of the Foster Martin towers at SRC.

City of Rain posted pics there (can't repost since hosted on SRC):
https://skyrisecities.com/forum/threads/white-rock-foster-martin-3-towers-25-fl.30607/post-1596291

[ArmoredinRed]

New Renderings for Surrey Skytrain Extension - Phase 1. Source: https://www.surreylangleyskytrain.ca/about-the-project/media-resources

https://www.surreylangleyskytrain.ca/-/media/surreylangleyskytrain/documents/media-resources/140-st-station-rendering_web.jpg

https://www.surreylangleyskytrain.ca/-/media/surreylangleyskytrain/documents/media-resources/140-st-station-site-plan_web.jpg

https://www.surreylangleyskytrain.ca/-/media/surreylangleyskytrain/documents/media-resources/152-st-station-rendering_web.jpg

https://www.surreylangleyskytrain.ca/-/media/surreylangleyskytrain/documents/media-resources/152-st-station-site-plan_web.jpg

https://www.surreylangleyskytrain.ca/-/media/surreylangleyskytrain/documents/media-resources/160-st-station-rendering_web.jpg

https://www.surreylangleyskytrain.ca/-/media/surreylangleyskytrain/documents/media-resources/160-st-station-site-plan_web.jpg

https://www.surreylangleyskytrain.ca/-/media/surreylangleyskytrain/documents/media-resources/166-st-station-rendering_web.jpg

https://www.surreylangleyskytrain.ca/-/media/surreylangleyskytrain/documents/media-resources/166-st-station-site-plan_web.jpg

[officedweller]

Thanks!

Copied over to the Surrey Rapid Transit thread.

[Reecemartin]

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[officedweller]

Copied over to the rapid transit thread - I added additonal observations.

[Sheba]

Copied from Suburban Updates

https://i.gyazo.com/c111c57d7ed1c1ffd556909277c5ae0f.jpg
https://i.gyazo.com/ed4738b79190888aa36905cfc1f155ad.png

[groovyg]

Copied from Suburban Updates

why 88 parking stalls for 46 occupants, 40 of whom "will not have vehicles"? I'm not familiar with blueprints--help!

[SpongeG]

maybe for staff to park? those places usually have staff working in them.

[Sheba]

maybe for staff to park? those places usually have staff working in them.

It says "2 per unit + visitors = 88 stalls" and then right under it says "4 stalls provided for staff only, residents will not have vehicles" - that's confusing... :rolleyes:

[officedweller]

I think that may be allowed and proposed.
88 allowed, 4 proposed.

[ArmoredinRed]

Interesting new insights into the Surrey arena, courtesy of the Daily Hive. Seems as though there is a new player in the mix. I'm surprised to see the Centre Block is being considered as a site for the arena.

Link:

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/surrey-indoor-stadium-proposal-opinion?fbclid=IwAR2-E2ZKyeuB11HxVg366UwAFXV41zTeIbsgs-Vz8LJb421jWkhAocQ0r-M

[Nites]

https://i.gyazo.com/a49f0b514791f583a81229a255889130.png

https://i.gyazo.com/f3e94e31fb1ad8993ad81d8e9d28b29e.jpg

https://i.gyazo.com/e93d63ba0b136ae18fe5de97094dcb4b.png

https://i.gyazo.com/873fbd959bf87e87ecb694dae70d2be3.jpg

https://www.surrey.ca/sites/default/files/planning-reports/PLR_7919-0145-00.pdf

[Nites]

New Whalley Station renders for the larger 51 story tower.

https://i.gyazo.com/c6ae244b3169dd8060cb3b88996d5452.jpg

https://i.gyazo.com/199fa3315e759ff31f53df767d1be940.jpg

https://i.gyazo.com/76dbd55f893272a4080ec58333c7c349.jpg

https://i.gyazo.com/56346f32f12a0f38800273d83114923e.jpg

https://i.gyazo.com/b565ea6b537b2ef7dc61df59e650b79f.jpg

[Metro-One]

Wait, what project is this?

[officedweller]

Ditch the protruding floor and heighten the crown and it wouldn't be too bad.
EDIT - changed my mind after looking at the comparison!

Not nearly as sleek as the original rendering.
Too fussy like a Henriquez design.

Atrium and catwalks are nice though.

Thanks!

Wait, what project is this?

Tower on the right of this old rendering
https://i.gyazo.com/2506a03dc64ea572b250e97c1061cd99.jpg
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fskyscraperpage.com%2Fforum%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D228677%26page%3D8&psig=AOvVaw0_Dwjg1cjkqIbMEOUH3nOd&ust=1603863973029000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CA0QjhxqFwoTCJD0r4iJ1OwCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAD

Comparison:

https://i.imgur.com/EP2BUYM.png

[Metro-One]

Ah, thanks!

Mixed feelings. Sadly it appears to have lost a little height, but is still decent, guessing around 165 to 175 meters?

I liked the scallop carved into the old design, but over all I prefer this design (it just needs to lose the protruding box).

[EhJay]

Hopefully these both go through. That would be a nice entrance coming up the hill into City Centre.

[EhJay]

https://i.ibb.co/ScY1csJ/what.png (https://ibb.co/0K4WKDQ)


Anyone have any idea what is going in here? I believe the site is 9683 137 St behind the Browns. Cosmos shows it as a neighbourhood park, but there is currently a crane being erected on the site.

[seamusmcduff]

Ah, thanks!

Mixed feelings. Sadly it appears to have lost a little height, but is still decent, guessing around 165 to 175 meters?

I liked the scallop carved into the old design, but over all I prefer this design (it just needs to lose the protruding box).

Tower is a bit less interesting, but the podium is waaaay better if they go with the detailing and materials shown in the ground level level renders.

[LeftCoaster]

Comparison:

https://i.imgur.com/EP2BUYM.png

Things I like about the new design:

- Realignment of the pinnacle of the crown to the intersection
- The art-deco pillars on the podium

Things I don't like about the new design:

- Everything else.

[rpvan]

New Whalley Station renders for the larger 51 story tower.

[]

Should probably post these in the whalley district thread as well.

[kh177]

https://i.ibb.co/ScY1csJ/what.png (https://ibb.co/0K4WKDQ)


Anyone have any idea what is going in here? I believe the site is 9683 137 St behind the Browns. Cosmos shows it as a neighbourhood park, but there is currently a crane being erected on the site.

Dated and delayed, but think this is it: https://elizabethfry.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/EFS_Rosewood_Update.pdf

[dferch]

Oh yikes it's already supposed to be done lol

[EhJay]

Dated and delayed, but think this is it: https://elizabethfry.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/EFS_Rosewood_Update.pdf

Cheers!

[Metro-One]

Things I like about the new design:

- Realignment of the pinnacle of the crown to the intersection
- The art-deco pillars on the podium

Things I don't like about the new design:

- Everything else.

I think the podium in general looks great.

As for the tower I feel that the protruding box drags everything else down.

If that’s removed the rest of the design will fall much better in place.

[MovieBuff]

Dated and delayed, but think this is it: https://elizabethfry.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/EFS_Rosewood_Update.pdf

Confirmed with Elizabeth Fry - Sometime in 2022 for completion!

[Sheba]

'Ambitious' proposal aims to transform waterfront district in Surrey and along Fraser River (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/proposal-transform-waterfront-surrey-fraser-river-1.5782574)


The Surrey Board of Trade wants to transform the area along the Fraser River in the Lower Mainland into a waterfront district that would combine industry, housing and recreation opportunities — but the proposal has so far fallen flat with regional officials.

Anita Huberman, the board's CEO, says the project is an opportunity to develop underutilized areas along the Fraser River in order to drive economic growth and house some of the 1.5 million people expected to move into the region by 2050.

"Yes, it is ambitious," Huberman said. "This is to enhance livability. It's to create jobs. It's to ensure that we are a region of the future."

The Fraser River has long been home to heavy industry that makes use of the waterway. In Surrey, the waterfront near the Patullo Bridge is dotted with warehouses, paper mills and port facilities.

The board's vision, presented in a proposal shared with the Metro Vancouver Regional Planning Committee in September, is to supplement the area with aspects like housing, an "innovation hub" and green space.

...

The project has support from the City of Surrey, Huberman says, as well as other municipalities along the Fraser that are interested in developing their waterfronts.

Surrey Mayor Doug McCallum didn't respond to requests for comment by deadline.

But Metro Vancouver's Regional Planning Committee rejected the board's $300,000 request in September, opting instead to offer staff time to support the initial phase of project development.

A committee report presented to the Metro Vancouver board on Friday says the Fraser River waterfront revitalization project doesn't align with the region's current strategies, like concentrating major developments along transit corridors in urban centres and discouraging them elsewhere.

The report also emphasized the region's policy of protecting its few remaining industrial lands, which account for only four per cent of the region's land use but create 27 per cent of its 1.3 million jobs.

Meg Holden, professor of urban studies at Simon Fraser University, says she wasn't surprised Metro Vancouver shot the the project down.

"I don't see any whiff of inspiration in this plan," Holden said.

The proposal refers to the creation of affordable housing but doesn't specify how it would achieve that, she says.

Cities like New Westminster, which has successfully developed its waterfront, have clear policies in place to protect rental homes. Too often, Holden says, waterfront developments result in gentrification.

"Planners are wise to a plan that says it's going to create a place for everyone when clearly it's going to push out the people who are currently there," she said. "I think that we're smarter than that in the region now."

Holden also points out that a lot of the area along the Fraser River, including in Surrey, is marshy and would be costly to develop into highrises.

...

[dferch]

Trying to create jobs by displacing mills and warehouses... Right that makes sense

[scryer]

Trying to create jobs by displacing mills and warehouses... Right that makes sense

Mmm... That's my concern as well.

In order for a South Westminster waterfront neighbourhood to work, it would have to involve a high level of industrial mixed use and high density industrial projects (to recapture and grow industrial interest) without permanently displacing jobs. The likes of which, we really haven't seen before in Metro Vancouver, let alone in Canada.

I agree that there is an opportunity here but it is going to be anything BUT a copy & paste version of New Westminster's waterfront. Without having to displace a grotesque amount of industrial, the only opportunities that I can see (that would be pedestrian oriented) from google maps would be around the Brownsville Pub and Brownsville Bar Park. However it's already more car (read: industry) oriented and there's a lot of rail. If anything, I could see the waterfront area turning into a 'roided version of OV's industrial areas with more of a focus on industrial/commercial zoning along with more residential developments around Scott Road station.

And even when developing around the Brownsville pub, that displaces some old businesses, industrial plants, and an older trailer park that has been around since forever. All of which will need space to relocate to. And then there's all of roadways and railways in around that area as well - making it a noisier place to live, if anything; and a logistical nightmare to plan out.

Many will disagree with me on this but I think that they should focus on redeveloping the Scott Road Station parking lots with residential (as they have been, TBF) and then maybe fading the residential focus into high density mixed use industrial projects to hopefully capture some of the surrounding industrial businesses to move into :shrug: . <- That would be a pipe dream though. For the record my vision of the neighbourhood only sees industrial bordering the riverfront - not residential or commercial.

Happy to change my mind as new information presents itself :) .

[Sheba]

Mmm... That's my concern as well.

In order for a South Westminster waterfront neighbourhood to work, it would have to involve a high level of industrial mixed use and high density industrial projects (to recapture and grow industrial interest) without permanently displacing jobs. The likes of which, we really haven't seen before in Metro Vancouver, let alone in Canada.

I agree that there is an opportunity here but it is going to be anything BUT a copy & paste version of New Westminster's waterfront. Without having to displace a grotesque amount of industrial, the only opportunities that I can see (that would be pedestrian oriented) from google maps would be around the Brownsville Pub and Brownsville Bar Park. However it's already more car (read: industry) oriented and there's a lot of rail. If anything, I could see the waterfront area turning into a 'roided version of OV's industrial areas with more of a focus on industrial/commercial zoning along with more residential developments around Scott Road station.

And even when developing around the Brownsville pub, that displaces some old businesses, industrial plants, and an older trailer park that has been around since forever. All of which will need space to relocate to. And then there's all of roadways and railways in around that area as well - making it a noisier place to live, if anything; and a logistical nightmare to plan out.

Many will disagree with me on this but I think that they should focus on redeveloping the Scott Road Station parking lots with residential (as they have been, TBF) and then maybe fading the residential focus into high density mixed use industrial projects to hopefully capture some of the surrounding industrial businesses to move into :shrug: . <- That would be a pipe dream though. For the record my vision of the neighbourhood only sees industrial bordering the riverfront - not residential or commercial.

Happy to change my mind as new information presents itself :) .

Yeah I think Surrey wants to copy what they seem in New West, possibly next to a copy of the River District (Boundary and Marine in CoV) - what they really should be looking at is Burnaby's Big Bend instead.

One area I think could be built up (and there may already be plans for it - anyone?) is just north of King George from Bridgeview Dr to the SFPR. It's mostly sprawling car dealerships now.

The area being built up over by Scott Road Station is where there used to be parking for Home Depot. The parking lots at the Station get a lot of use, so unless they get turned into a parkade I can't see anything happening there for awhile.

[CoryHolmes]

Yeah I think Surrey wants to copy what they seem in New West, possibly next to a copy of the River District (Boundary and Marine in CoV) - what they really should be looking at is Burnaby's Big Bend instead.

One area I think could be built up (and there may already be plans for it - anyone?) is just north of King George from Bridgeview Dr to the SFPR. It's mostly sprawling car dealerships now.

The area being built up over by Scott Road Station is where there used to be parking for Home Depot. The parking lots at the Station get a lot of use, so unless they get turned into a parkade I can't see anything happening there for awhile.

Apropo of nothing, what's going on with the buildings under construction at Scott Road? I just drove by for the first time since getting a car and it looks like nothing has changed.

[SpongeG]

Does anyone know what is being built next to the Superstore on 104th just to the east of it?

[dferch]

60 unit supportive housing development

https://www.bchousing.org/surrey-104
https://www.peacearchnews.com/news/two-new-supportive-housing-buildings-on-way-for-surrey-province-announces/

[SpongeG]

ok thanks, been seeing it going up for a few weeks now wondering what it is

[brophy87]

Two new towers proposed at The Dell https://www.reddit.com/r/SurreyBC/comments/jtrpzm/new_two_tower_city_plan_amendment_at_site_of/

[Cypherus]

Two new towers proposed at The Dell https://www.reddit.com/r/SurreyBC/comments/jtrpzm/new_two_tower_city_plan_amendment_at_site_of/

Thank you for the update. Nice to see a 49 storey tower being proposed near the Dell site. This area is surprising seeing development proposals more quickly than I anticipated.

This development appears to be on the lot located at 10662 King George Blvd, Surrey, BC V3T 2X3

https://i.imgur.com/vEZPWuV.jpg

[rpvan]

Looks like some revitalization planned for the Scott road corridor through north delta and surrey.

Walkable mixed-use neighbourhoods focus of task force’s vision for Scott Road
https://www.surreynowleader.com/news/walkable-mixed-use-neighbourhoods-focus-of-task-forces-vision-for-scott-road/

[Sheba]

Looks like some revitalization planned for the Scott road corridor through north delta and surrey.

Walkable mixed-use neighbourhoods focus of task force’s vision for Scott Road
https://www.surreynowleader.com/news/walkable-mixed-use-neighbourhoods-focus-of-task-forces-vision-for-scott-road/

I'll give them credit for going more dense than SFH... They want townhouses and lowrises up to 6 storeys - but they also want midrise towers and a lot of developers haven't wanted to build those as they have trouble making money off of them. I foresee those midrise towers not getting built.

I'll give them credit for going towards walkable neighbourhoods as SoF is very car dominant. Including greenways, parks / plazas, community space and shopping (hopefully not just along Scott Road) in each area would be a lot better than the long row of strip malls along a lot of Scott Road now.

[EhJay]

Thank you for the update. Nice to see a 49 storey tower being proposed near the Dell site. This area is surprising seeing development proposals more quickly than I anticipated.

This development appears to be on the lot located at 10662 King George Blvd, Surrey, BC V3T 2X3

https://i.imgur.com/vEZPWuV.jpg

That's a relatively long and skinny site.
Can anyone share how to find the proposal on the City of Surrey website? With the new changes I'm lost.

[CoryHolmes]

That's a relatively long and skinny site.
Can anyone share how to find the proposal on the City of Surrey website? With the new changes I'm lost.

I HATE THE NEW CHANGES! :hell:

Phew, sorry about the all-caps but it needed to be said.

[Cypherus]

That's a relatively long and skinny site.
Can anyone share how to find the proposal on the City of Surrey website? With the new changes I'm lost.

It's just in the rezoning stages with no project scope renders released quite yet.
https://apps.surrey.ca/Online-Development-Inquiry/?year=19&seq=0372

[EhJay]

Thanks for the link!

[EhJay]

Not buildings per say (https://www.surreynowleader.com/news/surrey-mayor-councillor-a-canyon-apart-on-proposed-tax-hike/), but "The City of Surrey’s press release indicates the Capital Parcel Tax increase proposed in the budget will be $200 and the levy will held fund 16 projects that include the Newton community centre and land acquisition, Sunnyside Reservoir Pickleball and Bike Park, phase one of a city centre sports complex, new park washrooms, Bear Creek Park Athletics Centre, Biodiversity Preserve Park improvements, South Surrey Athletic Park Track Replacement and new artificial turf field, trail and path development, Crescent Park Studio/building renovation, Newton turf and washroom/changeroom, outdoor volleyball courts, artificial turf field replacements at five locations, new park shelters, Indigenous carving centres, a Newton Athletic Park walking track, and Cloverdale Sport & Ice Complex with two sheets of ice budgeted for 2022/23."

Any idea if there's any plan / outline for these projects available online?

[MOOVA]

I HATE THE NEW CHANGES! :hell:

Phew, sorry about the all-caps but it needed to be said.

Don't get me started...

[dferch]

The old Knight & Day restaurant appears to be very close to demolition. Big bin outside and the landscaping has been scraped away.

[CoryHolmes]

The old Knight & Day restaurant appears to be very close to demolition. Big bin outside and the landscaping has been scraped away.

What's going in at that plot of land?

[officedweller]

This is from Aug 2018 for the Knight & Day site - may not be current:

Also - for the Knight & Day site across the street (application #17-0462) - rendering has emerged for the 25-storey tower proposed there:

https://i.imgur.com/9s9rjdO.jpg
https://www.instagram.com/adessavisuals/?hl=en

From Feb 2019:

An update as I was going through existing applications, the development (doesn't have it's own page yet) that was discussed a few years ago at the form Knight and Day restaurant location beside CRA (KGB just before 96th) is still proceeding forward.

Evidently the detailed drawings were submitted to Surrey Planning just yesterday and they've already held scoping meetings. So hopefully we hear more about this project which is in the Innovation Boulevard area soon.

This is the project and where it is, screenshot from the planning report Oct 1, 2018:

http://www.jhausner.com/Surrey/7917-0462-00_small.png (https://www.jhausner.com/Surrey/7917-0462-00_large.PNG)
Click for larger image.

[dferch]

Yea, the application page shows it's pretty close to being through the red tape. This means we might see a presentation centre soon?

[Shift]

The project is called Belvedere by Square Nine Developments.

It's been increased in height since that rendering from 25 to 27 Storeys. The website now says 30-Storeys but it could be wrong.

https://squarenine.ca/projects/high-rise/belvedere/

[SpongeG]

will that tower be the tallest one that far south on KGH?

[hollywoodnorth]

any movement on this project >>

https://www.surreynowleader.com/news/pair-of-proposed-guildford-highrises-coming-to-public-hearing-monday/

Guildford highrise proposals pass third reading despite community opposition

[montyhallgoat]

any movement on this project >>

https://www.surreynowleader.com/news/pair-of-proposed-guildford-highrises-coming-to-public-hearing-monday/

Guildford highrise proposals pass third reading despite community opposition

Good. I think the towers are perfectly suitable for the location in my opinion.

It's directly south of Landmark Cinema at Guildford Mall and there are two existing high-rise towers. The petitions mostly came from the residents of 7-storey senior apartments and they are the one telling the city to approve only "four-storey building like the rest of the area".

101 Avenue isn't overused as they claim to be and the change and density needs to come sooner or later.

[dferch]

Rosewood is now at ground level

https://i.imgur.com/EOS1s5c.png

[Equinox71]

Portion of Flamingo Block project in Whalley now slated for offices

https://www.surreynowleader.com/news/portion-of-flamingo-block-project-in-whalley-now-slated-for-offices/

[Cypherus]

Didn't see this shared but the Urban Surrey blog already posted an update render of "Sequoia" and application page (https://apps.surrey.ca/Online-Development-Inquiry/?year=20&seq=0024).

https://i.imgur.com/Dvkfojr.jpg

https://masonlink.ca/our-projects/104-133/
"24 stories | 260 Units (More details to be announced)"

Corner of 104th and 133rd in Surrey, near the Wave and Linea towers. Very striking design and two thumbs up from here.

[officedweller]

Thanks!

They should get rid of the token amount of brick on the podium.

So Mason Link bought bought Wave and Linea from Rize?
There's no mention of it being related to Rize.
Their brochure says that its parent Fountana was founded in 1996.

Surrey Central Hub

Looks like this is west of (behind) the new SFU building.
The render has 26 floors, but the description says it will have 43 floors!!

https://masonlink.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/133A103-View1-547x1024.jpg
https://masonlink.ca/our-projects/surreycentralhub/

https://i.imgur.com/OnNGgOU.png
https://masonlink.ca/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Mason-Link-Corporate-Brochure-EN.pdf

Project Pacific Inn

... and redevelopment of the Pacific Inn on KGB and Hwy 99

https://i.imgur.com/9bsP0pz.png
https://masonlink.ca/our-projects/pacific-inn/

https://masonlink.ca/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Render1.jpg
https://masonlink.ca/our-projects/pacific-inn/

[EhJay]

Thanks!

They should get rid of the token amount of brick on the podium.

So Mason Link bought bought Wave and Linea from Rize?
There's no mention of it being related to Rize.
Their brochure says that its parent Fountana was founded in 1996.

What's that "Surrey Central Hub" project (tall tower and midrise tower)?

https://masonlink.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/133A103-View1-547x1024.jpg
https://masonlink.ca/our-projects/surreycentralhub/

https://i.imgur.com/OnNGgOU.png
https://masonlink.ca/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Mason-Link-Corporate-Brochure-EN.pdf

It looks like Central City Hub is a "twin tower", possibly to the Sequoia that was mentioned?

They also say they are building the "South Surrey Hotel", a prominent monument for 3 decades... Is that the pink palace?

[officedweller]

If the pink palace was the Pacific Inn, yes.
That's the one that had the big atrium?

Looks like Sequoia is the SW corner of 133 at 104 and Surrey Central Hub is on the NE corner of 133A at 102A.
Surrey Central Hub looks to be west of (behind) the new SFU Building and Prime on the Plaza.
Looks like there will be a lot between it and the SFU building along 102A for an SFU expansion.

[Changing City]

Thanks!

So Mason Link bought bought Wave and Linea from Rize?
There's no mention of it being related to Rize.
Their brochure says that its parent Fountana was founded in 1996.

The Linea website says "Rize - Developer. Mason Link - Financial Partner"

[officedweller]

Thank you - mystery solved!

[zahav]

If the pink palace was the Pacific Inn, yes.
That's the one that had the big atrium?

Looks like Sequoia is the SW corner of 133 at 104 and Surrey Central Hub is on the NE corner of 133A at 102A.
Surrey Central Hub looks to be west of (behind) the new SFU Building and Prime on the Plaza.
Looks like there will be a lot between it and the SFU building along 102A for an SFU expansion.

The Pink Palace redevelopment is actually pretty huge, and it will have DoubleTree by Hilton (finally we get one in metro Van, I stayed in one in Portland and they are very nice). Apparently they were just going to reno the existing hotel before but now the entire property is being redeveloped:

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/1160-king-george-boulevard-surrey-pacific-inn-resort

South Surrey is growing at an insane pace, they definitely need a hotel around there now, and this development looks pretty nice

[officedweller]

Are there any other hotels around the Lower Mainland with big atriums like that?
The Best Western (?) on North Road was demolished, wasn't it? Any others?

[scryer]

The Pink Palace redevelopment is actually pretty huge, and it will have DoubleTree by Hilton (finally we get one in metro Van, I stayed in one in Portland and they are very nice). Apparently they were just going to reno the existing hotel before but now the entire property is being redeveloped:

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/1160-king-george-boulevard-surrey-pacific-inn-resort

South Surrey is growing at an insane pace, they definitely need a hotel around there now, and this development looks pretty nice

Thanks for sharing! I also like that they are adding convention space as well:

There will also be a four-storey convention centre with 41,200 sq. ft. of conference and meeting space — more than four times the space of the existing building.

[officedweller]

Each of the regional town centres needs convention facilities....

[EhJay]

The low rise that went bankrupt on 132 St and King George (under the SkyTrain on the hill coming up into Gateway) has now had all of the wooden structures that were covered up removed. Looks like it is mostly just the concrete base that is left.

[Cypherus]

Belvedere (on the old Knight and Day Restaurant lot) opening up registration for presales in Spring 2021. Happy to see this tower get going as it will really add density to the area.

https://belvedereliving.ca/dist/img/rendering.jpg
https://belvedereliving.ca/

[officedweller]

Semiah
White Rock

Marcon twitter Jan 21st:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsRL1k8VcAIoHxB?format=jpg&name=medium
https://twitter.com/MarconHomes

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsRL7jgVcAEYGgI?format=jpg&name=medium
https://twitter.com/MarconHomes

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsRMEtuVEAEgPwf?format=jpg&name=medium
https://twitter.com/MarconHomes

Marcon twitter Jan 29th:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Es61qNUVkAQxzlI?format=jpg&name=medium
https://twitter.com/MarconHomes

"The Great Blue." Created by Canadian artists #JacquelineMetz & #NancyChew

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Es61ps4UUAIta8N?format=jpg&name=medium
https://twitter.com/MarconHomes

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Es607PPVcAEpmID?format=jpg&name=medium
https://twitter.com/MarconHomes

[Cypherus]

The 46 storey "Grand on King George (https://thegrandkg.com/)" is now up online for registration:

https://thegrandkg.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/the-grand-hero.jpg
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https://thegrandkg.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/inset-community.png

Previous renders
https://urbansurrey.files.wordpress.com/2019/12/x2cwq0o.jpg
Source: Urban Surrey (https://urbansurrey.com/active-projects-in-surrey-city-centre/) and Daily Hive (https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/10731-king-george-boulevard-surrey)

[CoryHolmes]

There are so many proposed developments for that area it's hard to keep track of them all o_O

Tien Sher, The Bird, lots on both sides...

[GMasterAres]

I hope they all get built. It will start to transform that area and encourage more proposals between 104 and 108 Ave to bridge the gap between Gateway and Surrey Central.

Starting to see it.

Two big things to me that should spark a lot of change are:

1. Building towers and major developments between 104 and 108
2. Building towers and major developments east of King George (I am excluding the development that is/has happened right around King George Station).

We're already ticking box 2 with things like Anthem's proposals and the current tower under construction, and now it looks like box 1 is starting to really get ticked.

[dferch]

Towers between 104 and 108 will just be really weirdly situated until others get built because of what surrounds them right now. I also hope the city does something to help the existing small businesses from being displaced.

[GMasterAres]

Towers between 104 and 108 will just be really weirdly situated until others get built because of what surrounds them right now. I also hope the city does something to help the existing small businesses from being displaced.

For sure within reason though. Many of the businesses in that space cater to the homeless in the area. I would imagine they should or would be accommodated for through efforts to bring social housing to the area with new projects.

Others like the smattering of auto shops and glass repair can frankly go anywhere and don't really have a place in a downtown. They'd likely be better off moving to more industrial zoning.

That part of Whalley was largely industrial and that is changing.

[CoryHolmes]

For sure within reason though. Many of the businesses in that space cater to the homeless in the area. I would imagine they should or would be accommodated for through efforts to bring social housing to the area with new projects.

Others like the smattering of auto shops and glass repair can frankly go anywhere and don't really have a place in a downtown. They'd likely be better off moving to more industrial zoning.

That part of Whalley was largely industrial and that is changing.

Wouldn't you know it, but I checked my mail today and got a public hearing notice to rezone that whole block of businesses (not counting the ones fronting King George like Rickshaw) to allow for up to 4 towers.

[GMasterAres]

Wouldn't you know it, but I checked my mail today and got a public hearing notice to rezone that whole block of businesses (not counting the ones fronting King George like Rickshaw) to allow for up to 4 towers.

Awesome.

[LeftCoaster]

The 46 storey "Grand on King George (https://thegrandkg.com/)" is now up online for registration:

https://thegrandkg.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/the-grand-hero.jpg
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https://thegrandkg.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/inset-community.png



Getting ads for this one on instagram now. VIP sales have probably already started.

[EhJay]

Ten Sher Group is starting sales on "Q5 (https://liveatq5.com/)" shortly.

Also showing what the area will look like if they ever actually build the other buildings on both sides of KGB


https://liveatq5.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/whalley-district-m@2x.jpg

[officedweller]

Thanks!

So that definitely shows that the twin gateway concept on KGB is gone.
Which makes the design of the landmark tower a bit more accepable (in that there won't be 2 of them).

Note how it does not show The Grand on King geogre (just behind the landmark tower).

[Klazu]

That park on the middle looks so sad. Is it even a park?

[GMasterAres]

That park on the middle looks so sad. Is it even a park?

It's not a park actually. The "path" you see cutting diagonal is technically "136 street" though it isn't a street. The open fields are just undeveloped properties, been that way for decades. I think it is just remnants of that area being quite rough for decades. We'll see if they get redeveloped now that things are improving and there is a push to development in that area.

[Klazu]

Did something big and industrial get demolished in the area back in the day as there are so many of these under-developed lots in that area? I am not familiar with the history of this area.

[Sheba]

Did something big and industrial get demolished in the area back in the day as there are so many of these under-developed lots in that area? I am not familiar with the history of this area.

There isn't a lot of 'back in the day': "Most of the uplands were heavily forested with the occasional area of peat bog and scrub. Settlement did not take place until the logging had cleared most of the heavy trees. The heaviest settlement occurred after 1945 with the development and availability of the bulldozer for clearing the properties."

Surrey History (https://www.surreyhistory.ca/whalley.html)

[officedweller]

It's not a park actually. The "path" you see cutting diagonal is technically "136 street" though it isn't a street.

So it's really 6 corners?

[SpongeG]

people use it has a park. The area across from that park to the east plus about two more blocks to the east is all up for rezoning right now, those houses will be making way for mid-size redevelopments, the rezoning signs have been up for quite a while now.