Surrey/South Fraser Updates

[Westbased]

Always interesting wondering when CRA will put their property on sale.

They will have to find office space to move into though before they can sell. Perhaps they will move into Central City 2 tower!

15 acres of land!

[Shift]

I actually prefer this design over the early 'iconic' twin tower proposal too. Much better integrated with the street.

https://i2.wp.com/www.larkgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/legion.jpg?w=620&ssl=1

https://i.imgur.com/XZXC9So.jpg

[officedweller]

West Village District Energy Centre
From Scott Construction twitter today:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbOzXUvVQAAwkkQ.jpg
https://twitter.com/ScottConstructs

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbOz18OVQAAbjCe.jpg
https://twitter.com/ScottConstructs

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbOz2jdUQAAm9Qg.jpg
https://twitter.com/ScottConstructs

[Cypherus]

Always interesting wondering when CRA will put their property on sale.

They will have to find office space to move into though before they can sell. Perhaps they will move into Central City 2 tower!

15 acres of land!

The CRA never owned the property where the tax office and collections centre is situated. They are leasing it. Doubt they will move any time soon since they were doing leasehold renovations/improvements in the back parking lot. The tax office is relatively new and they converted the first floor where it used to be open to the public, into more offices. They put up reflective glasses on the ground floor to maintain privacy. Noticed this walking by one day.

[Westbased]

Anyone have any idea why the New Coast Capital building and PCI Groups other land at King George Hub are no longer on BC Assessment?

They do not currently appear on the assessment website akin to how schools and churches etc do not appear.

EDIT: Upon further investigation they do not have an updated assessment for 2017...appears they won't be assessed for this year? That's a lot of money as that entire chunk is worth upwards of $150 million at least.

[GMasterAres]

Anyone have any idea why the New Coast Capital building and PCI Groups other land at King George Hub are no longer on BC Assessment?

They do not currently appear on the assessment website akin to how schools and churches etc do not appear.

EDIT: Upon further investigation they do not have an updated assessment for 2017...appears they won't be assessed for this year? That's a lot of money as that entire chunk is worth upwards of $150 million at least.

Sure it does. Total Assessed value of 9900 King George Blvd (Coast Capital building) = $89,893,000 as of July 1, 2017 (for this coming tax season).

The rest of the property for The HUB are:

9854 KGB = $3,616,000 (2018)
13615 Fraser Hwy = $33,157,000 (2018)
13639 Fraser Hwy = $3,482,000 (2018)
13733 Fraser Hwy = $14,375,000 (2018)

So that puts the total "The HUB" property at currently $144,523,000.

Other side of the street which is 9905 King George Boulevard = $25,012,000

You can find that either on Cosmos (http://cosmos.surrey.ca) or right on BC Assessment so not sure why you can't find it.

Property tax levies haven't been generated yet by cities they typically wait until near end of May just in case there are tweaks. In the case of this, all the "LAND" you are seeing as 2018 because that won't change, but the building itself just doesn't have a levy placed on it yet by the city. That's why you won't see a 2018 on Cosmos. But the assessed value of "July 2017" = the expected assessed value for this year. Remember assessment values are made in July of the previous year for the current year.

So your assessed value that results in your 2018 property tax bill is from July 2017.

They will definitely be paying property tax rest assured. :)

[CoryHolmes]

I just saw the old University District sales centre is now boarded up, and the parking lot is always occupied. I'm hoping this means they're reno-ing the inside to launch the next phase in development.

[Shift]

I just saw the old University District sales centre is now boarded up, and the parking lot is always occupied. I'm hoping this means they're reno-ing the inside to launch the next phase in development.

I doubt it would be boarded up if they were reno-ing it. Plus its a bit early for them to be marketing their next phase. That phase has a new 2018 application number now - still needs to go to Council. My guess is that sales centre will now sit empty boarded up for a couple of years until the next phase is approved. Noticed today it already has graffiti on it.

Alternatively they could be tearing it down?

[EhJay]

Surrey LRT phase 1 has been pushed back to 2024 according to TransLink.
CTV Link (https://bc.ctvnews.ca/surrey-light-rail-by-2024-transit-project-timing-revealed-1.3879716)

[Sheba]

Surrey LRT phase 1 has been pushed back to 2024 according to TransLink.
CTV Link (https://bc.ctvnews.ca/surrey-light-rail-by-2024-transit-project-timing-revealed-1.3879716)

That's the completion date - not the start of construction - and they've been saying it for awhile.

[EhJay]

That's the completion date - not the start of construction - and they've been saying it for awhile.

Actually, as of less than 1 month ago Mayor Hepner was touting a 2021-2022 completion as seen here (https://www.surreynowleader.com/news/surrey-mayor-says-transit-deal-means-lrt-could-be-running-by-2021/)

But you know, that's what they've been saying for a while.

[CoryHolmes]

I hope to whatever gods people worship that this LRT project fails and flounders. It's not going to do anything well, except waste money.

[iron]

I hope to whatever gods people worship that this LRT project fails and flounders. It's not going to do anything well, except waste money.

On the other hand, I hope it turns out to be a massive success. I mean, I don't want it to be a waste of money. :haha:

[Blease]

I hope to whatever gods people worship that this LRT project fails and flounders. It's not going to do anything well, except waste money.

Whatever Gods you ask? Let’s just say the Gods of logic and good sense.

[CoryHolmes]

On the other hand, I hope it turns out to be a massive success. I mean, I don't want it to be a waste of money. :haha:

Absolutely. I want it to be fast, efficient, cheap to run, safe for riders and cars on the road, and be an overall net positive to the city.

But we're not getting Skytrain.

[Firebrand]

Does anyone here in this thread know about any developments happening in Langley other than Willoughby?

[Colin4567]

Does anyone here in this thread know about any developments happening in Langley other than Willoughby?

This should be pretty big:

https://www.langleytimes.com/news/new-20-storey-seniors-housing-tower-not-about-money-says-developer/

New 20 story tower right near the Langley Event Centre.

[Firebrand]

This should be pretty big:

https://www.langleytimes.com/news/new-20-storey-seniors-housing-tower-not-about-money-says-developer/

New 20 story tower right near the Langley Event Centre.

I recall seeing the empty lots near Langley Events Centre being sold to a developer. Nice to see Langley building properties more than 10 stories—and a senior home too.

[officedweller]

This should be pretty big:

https://www.langleytimes.com/news/new-20-storey-seniors-housing-tower-not-about-money-says-developer/

New 20 story tower right near the Langley Event Centre.

Thanks!

Tower in the park, but no worse than the earlier Metrotown projects.

[officedweller]

North Delta tower plan tweaked after public opposition
http://www.vancourier.com/real-estate/north-delta-tower-plan-tweaked-after-public-opposition-1.23294395

No new rendering though...

A 35-storey tower is in the works on the Delta side of Scott Road, at 75A Ave (just past the northern end of all the Strawberry Hill commercial sites - kitty-corner to the Shoppers/former Future Shop). It went to Delta's advisory design panel a couple weeks ago. The application was submitted May 2017 with renderings from Sept. 2017, noting the site plan was revised in November to move the parking entry from the centre of the site to entry off the north lane.

http://delta.ca/your-government/delta's-projects/high-rise-development-application-at-75a-avenue-and-120-street

Edit - looks like it may be marketed as "The Eminence" https://barnettdembek.com/portfolio/item/the-eminence/

[officedweller]

Langley Seniors Home
by Billard Architecture
via twitter April 17th:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbBPN2TVAAABZVY.jpg
Our age in place Seniors Living project in #langleybc has been submitted for Development Permit.
https://twitter.com/BillardArch

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbBPN2VU0AAPYg_.jpg
https://twitter.com/BillardArch

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbBPNmRVwAAqY7P.jpg
https://twitter.com/BillardArch

[officedweller]

Surrey project
by Billard Architecture
via twitter March 20th:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYwFJJKVoAERYC6.jpg
Client has approved our #design for Mixed-use 280-home Residential project in #Surrey. Here we go!
https://twitter.com/BillardArch

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYwFJJHUMAAOzoI.jpg
https://twitter.com/BillardArch

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYwFeoeVwAA7X5j.jpg
https://twitter.com/BillardArch

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYwFeo6VAAAMZgP.jpg
https://twitter.com/BillardArch

[Urbanmetro]

I actually prefer this design over the early 'iconic' twin tower proposal too. Much better integrated with the street.

https://i2.wp.com/www.larkgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/legion.jpg?w=620&ssl=1

https://i.imgur.com/XZXC9So.jpg

There was a request for financial assistance from the city of Surrey that was denied. I think this project will be a long time coming but much needed for the area...

[officedweller]

From Scott Construction twitter:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdznhmOU0AMU004.jpg
The West Village District Energy Centre in @CityofSurrey is rapidly taking shape, with all CLT panels now on the roof.
This week the 3 big stacks will be installed - a huge milestone in this exciting project!
https://twitter.com/ScottConstructs

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdznhjXU8AAlXXV.jpg
https://twitter.com/ScottConstructs

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdznhudUQAAH90s.jpg
https://twitter.com/ScottConstructs

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdznhuRV4AAXb2A.jpg
https://twitter.com/ScottConstructs

[Shift]

Stacks are now up on the West Village District Energy Centre and they look great! Taller than expected. Turning into an iconic little building.

https://i.imgur.com/booBYVs.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/HbqZeBm.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/O4NxRpz.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/3ePP9kL.jpg?1

[Shift]

Aspire on 101 Ave looking great(May 27):

https://i.imgur.com/6xyZMTV.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/acLlTzi.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/rDmVaKM.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/2iULej2.jpg?1

[EhJay]

That's perfect for the edge of the downtown core. Hopefully in the long term we can see more places like that being built, but with retail on the bottom floor.

[officedweller]

Thanks for the shots!

[Shift]

That's perfect for the edge of the downtown core. Hopefully in the long term we can see more places like that being built, but with retail on the bottom floor.

That's the plan - all the orange areas are intended for 4-6 storey - just residential though (no retail at grade - some exceptions possible). The red and purple areas are mixed-use high-rise with retail at grade.

https://i.imgur.com/Tnc4PEj.jpg

[EhJay]

A little off topic, but the City of Surrey just adopted The Parks, Recreation & Culture (PRC) Strategic Plan (http://www.surrey.ca/culture-recreation/3096.aspx). Essentially a 10 year plan on the expansion of parks, cultural centers, and large events. Of note are a few new parks in the Central City area, as well as in 7-10 years an expansion of Holland Park.

[Westbased]

Someone has been buying up a ton of land by Tom Binnie Park.

More than half of the block bordered by 134A Street/City Parkway/105A Ave/105 Ave has been picked up. Total sale price ~$14 million and 52,000 square feet of land. [Closed around Feb 26, 2018]

The entire block bordered by University Drive/134A Street/105A Ave/105 Ave has been picked up. Total sale price ~$35 million and 105,000 square feet of land (2.4 Acres). [Closed around Dec 28, 2017], [Skytrain tracks running through middle of the site].

Given this information the price per acre is right around $14 million.

Not sure what the densities are for these parcels.

[Shift]

Someone has been buying up a ton of land by Tom Binnie Park.

More than half of the block bordered by 134A Street/City Parkway/105A Ave/105 Ave has been picked up. Total sale price ~$14 million and 52,000 square feet of land. [Closed around Feb 26, 2018]

The entire block bordered by University Drive/134A Street/105A Ave/105 Ave has been picked up. Total sale price ~$35 million and 105,000 square feet of land (2.4 Acres). [Closed around Dec 28, 2017], [Skytrain tracks running through middle of the site].

Given this information the price per acre is right around $14 million.

Not sure what the densities are for these parcels.

Red block with the SkyTrain running through it. This block has been fenced off since earlier this year - around the same time that the sale closed. It's designated mid to high-rise 3.5 FAR (but can go higher). Not a bad site across from the parks and University District (Phase 2) directly to the south.

https://i.imgur.com/6F8Vt9h.jpg

[officedweller]

Buttjes Architecture had a project for a bisected site -
It's been listed on their website for ages - so very likely out of date.
Filed under "Gateway" here:

http://buttjesarchitecture.com/projects

I suppose it could also be an unrealized project for a parcel to the north of Gateway Station rather than south of it.

[Shift]

Buttjes Architecture had a project for a bisected site -
It's been listed on their website for ages - so very likely out of date.
Filed under "Gateway" here:

http://buttjesarchitecture.com/projects

I suppose it could also be an unrealized project for a parcel to the north of Gateway Station rather than south of it.

Yeah that project is up at Gateway. Development Permit was issued in 2014. Servicing Agreement finalized in 2015. Not sure why it hasn't proceeded to marketing / construction.

Took 7 years to go through the approvals process. What's another 4-5 years of sitting idle before 3 years of construction. lol.

https://apps.surrey.ca/Online-Development-Inquiry/?year=06&seq=0147

[EhJay]

Saw some work at the LaVoda Living site at 132 St and KGB. Maybe this long stalled project is finally going forward again?

[Shift]

Saw some work at the LaVoda Living site at 132 St and KGB. Maybe this long stalled project is finally going forward again?

Looks like they are excavating finally yes

[clee7903]

Looks like they are excavating finally yes

Finally saw 2 excavators and light clearing of shrubs...FINALLY

[Blease]

Just did a google image on this, looks like a nice 6 story building. I love this height, does a lot for the streetscape.

[Shift]

^Yeah will be a nice project and look great from the SkyTrain coming up the hill.

https://urbansurrey.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/2rjndra.jpg?w=863

http://ramanlalli.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/2017_01_23_09_23_16_coniandevelopments_lavoda_surrey_rendering-750x423.jpg

[osirisboy]

Doesn't look very pedestrian friendly

[Sheba]

Doesn't look very pedestrian friendly

That's King George north of Gateway Station - people aren't going to be walking along there for a major distance. The side streets are far more pedestrian friendly.

[Shift]

Doesn't look very pedestrian friendly

It actually is. There are ground-oriented units with access directly on the sidewalk of 132 st. The parts of the building setback are next to the SkyTrain guideway - so that your unit isn't an arms length from the tracks. Will still be pretty close - rendering probably makes it look setback further.

https://urbansurrey.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/2rjndra.jpg?w=863

[Urbanmetro]

Two towers proposed north of Park Avenue are moving ahead. To be ready March 2024.

Also, veteran village is now two towers 20 and 26 story. Should be interesting if they meet their 2021/22 completion date.

[Blease]

Two towers proposed north of Park Avenue are moving ahead. To be ready March 2024.


North of Park Avenue? Do you mean where the strip mall is??

[osirisboy]

North of park avenue are houses though

[Urbanmetro]

North of park avenue are houses though

Pardon me, I meant East 😂

[EhJay]

http://www.surrey.ca/bylawsandcouncillibrary/AGN_RCLU_CURRENT.PDF

Looks like it's on the June 11 Regular Council Land Use Agenda.
Glad to see that they're getting the ball rolling.
Does anyone know what other properties in Surrey that Concord owns?

[Shift]

Planning Report here: http://www.surrey.ca/bylawsandcouncillibrary/PLR_7917-0363-00.pdf

These look pretty good - I like the water references in materials used (fade from dark to light blue down the tower), illuminated pavings in the sidewalk, waterfall features, etc. Nice looking amenities, good integration with Quibble Creek Park. Like the curved cut out on the corner of the one tower (not sure if its on both).

From the report: "The applicant has advised that the dwelling units in this project are expected to be constructed and ready for occupancy by March 2022."

https://i.imgur.com/1ZiVzhF.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/iqJl919.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/QV1xptt.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/rtmjJ7d.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/fiPiaTP.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Zgah4r7.jpg

[cleowin]

Are there any further updates with regards to brookswood development in Langley?

Also saw a huge for sale sign of a big acreage in Aldergrove near the sports athletic park that could be a future development site?

[Westbased]

Concord really is adding tremendous value to this little neighbourhood especially with the new trails through the creek area.

Here's to hoping they can assemble the lots across the street as well and continue their Park Neighbourhood.

[EhJay]

Wow. If they are expecting that project to start move-in in March 2022 they really aren't waiting. Looks pretty nice. I'm liking the one corner that is carved inwards as opposed to a straight up square. Hopefully the city is okay with them being closer to the stream on the property.

[Westbased]

Wow. If they are expecting that project to start move-in in March 2022 they really aren't waiting. Looks pretty nice. I'm liking the one corner that is carved inwards as opposed to a straight up square. Hopefully the city is okay with them being closer to the stream on the property.

They usually require 30 meter set back from top of bank of the creek now and the tower is more than 30 meters.

They should be all good in that regard, but they will have to sign whats known as a P15 Agreement which requires that they remove all invasive species within the creek setback area as well as maintain it for a couple years I believe.

[Blease]

Surrey’s Veterans Village moves forward:


https://www.peacearchnews.com/news/surrey-legion-veterans-village-project-moves-forward/amp/

[officedweller]

Thanks for posting.

Not as nice as the oval tower that was originally proposed (by a different developer) for the Quibble Creek site.

[officedweller]

Surrey’s Veterans Village moves forward:

The whole project looks more hodge-podge than it did before.

https://ow0hs2zhmkp2497op3xhvxsa-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/12262910_Webp.net-gifmaker--11-.gif
https://www.peacearchnews.com/news/surrey-legion-veterans-village-project-moves-forward/amp/

[EhJay]

So it's one of the Nexus projects. Should be fast tracked then.

[Shift]

^Yeah ambitious. They are aiming for a fall ground-breaking.

In other news - the site below in red with the SkyTrain running through it had geotechnical equipment on it today drilling. Would expect an application soon.

https://i.imgur.com/6F8Vt9h.jpg

[EhJay]

Be interesting to see how they build around the train. two towers or right over?

[Westbased]

Be interesting to see how they build around the train. two towers or right over?

That would be very interesting to see! Something similar to the Vancity tower of the tracks at Science World.

Personally, I would love to see the area under the skytrain tracks built into a plaza-esque walk way similar to what's going on under Granville Bridge beside Vancouver House with towers on both sides.

[EhJay]

Breaking ground this fall with the first phase completed by 2020 according to the article. (http://theprovince.com/news/local-news/whalley-legion-redevelopment-in-surrey-one-step-closer-to-reality/wcm/2a349961-b0c7-4e62-867a-ffa50678ecdd)

[Westbased]

Fraser Landmark, at the corner of 140th and Fraser Highway has a sold out sign posted on site!

Did anyone even hear any marketing related to this development, I find it odd they sold out that quickly without any hint of marketing.

[GMasterAres]

Fraser Landmark, at the corner of 140th and Fraser Highway has a sold out sign posted on site!

Did anyone even hear any marketing related to this development, I find it odd they sold out that quickly without any hint of marketing.

Just marketing through their website. They contacted those of us who registered and offered us spots to look through the plans and make a purchase before releasing to the public. Appears as though enough of those that registered and got in on pre-presales actually purchased to the point they don't have to actually build a show room or do anything further.

So yah, sold out, so they can start construction asap.

[Westbased]

Just marketing through their website. They contacted those of us who registered and offered us spots to look through the plans and make a purchase before releasing to the public. Appears as though enough of those that registered and got in on pre-presales actually purchased to the point they don't have to actually build a show room or do anything further.

So yah, sold out, so they can start construction asap.

Thanks for the info!

Platinum Marketing really is great at selling units out very quickly.

[Cypherus]

Thanks for the info!

Platinum Marketing really is great at selling units out very quickly.

Marketing is only effective if there is situated demand to move a project forward. Looks like a solid development and demand outweighed supply.

[EhJay]

They were priced on the lower end of things. Definitely not an upscale development by any stretch. They knew that they were new to this type of building and didn't want to over stretch and risk getting stuck with a long drawn out process so went a bit cheaper, sold the units cheaper, and they got picked up very fast.

[Westbased]

They were priced on the lower end of things. Definitely not an upscale development by any stretch. They knew that they were new to this type of building and didn't want to over stretch and risk getting stuck with a long drawn out process so went a bit cheaper, sold the units cheaper, and they got picked up very fast.

Any info as to the average price per foot it sold for?

[GMasterAres]

I never saw a price list, sorry couldn't comment. In the 4 buildings around this on Fraser Highway, places are selling (not just listed) for between $545 and $595 per square foot.

I'd imagine they are at maximum around that price, but could be a bit lower. So for a 950 square foot 2 bedroom that would be around $500,000.

[EhJay]

Any info as to the average price per foot it sold for?

Unfortunately I didn't keep the pricing sheet that they had. But I do remember them marketing it as below average.

[Nites]

They have an excavator on site on 132nd and 88 ave and started clearing debris for the condo project in front of the fire hall 1. I believe someone here said it was 4 story with ground retail.

[Westbased]

They have an excavator on site on 132nd and 88 ave and started clearing debris for the condo project in front of the fire hall 1. I believe someone here said it was 4 story with ground retail.

Yes, I've spoken with the owner briefly and they are just updating their application and expect to break ground next year.

[Westbased]

Anthem Properties is the official buyer of the Toys R' Us site that is directly beside their Georgetown project.

They have a lot of space to make a huge impact on the city centre.

[ArmoredinRed]

First Post!

Veterans Village has been approved as of yesterday. Sounds like they could break ground later this year for phase 1 (20 stories). Phase 2 will be a reported 26 stories.

https://www.cloverdalereporter.com/news/veterans-village-project-approved-by-surrey-council-monday/

[Cypherus]

Came across the Development Proposal today at the Knight and Day Restaurant beside the CRA Tax Services Office. CRA will be flanked in between two towers - Avani to the north and this tower to the South. Looks like yet another tower in Surrey that will be part of a next development phase in the city scheduled to be completed by 2022/2023.

https://i.imgur.com/tYWVJAO.jpg

[EhJay]

Anyone know what company this is?

[Nites]

Anyone know what company this is?

Checked the Online Development Inquiry and no info on the developer.

[vorpalsword]

I've just been looking at some of the parcels that have been sold recently in South Surrey, and couldn't make sense of the numbers. Say for example a property is 1 acre and it has power lines and a drainage corridor running midway through it. One side of the property is zoned for multifamily in the NCP, but the half on the other side of the powerlines/drainage is not in the NCP. When determining FAR, would it just be based on the part of the property in the NCP, or the entire land area minus the areas with the power lines/ drainage corridor? Thanks

https://i.imgur.com/4YG6c36.png

[GMasterAres]

I've just been looking at some of the parcels that have been sold recently in South Surrey, and couldn't make sense of the numbers. Say for example a property is 1 acre and it has power lines and a drainage corridor running midway through it. One side of the property is zoned for multifamily in the NCP, but the half on the other side of the powerlines/drainage is not in the NCP. When determining FAR, would it just be based on the part of the property in the NCP, or the entire land area minus the areas with the power lines/ drainage corridor? Thanks

https://i.imgur.com/4YG6c36.png

I'm assuming the NCP part is fronting or near to road/neighborhood access and the other side is not, aka backs onto non-accessible land? You'd have to provide a real-world example I could look at.

But generally speaking FAR calculation is on an entire property but such a special case they might calculate it just the developable land or they'd have to subdivide the land and rezone. Also just because an NCP says X property is multi-family doesn't meant he property is actually zoned for that. NCPs are really just plans for what a city would like to see developers do. It's basically just a guide so that a developer goes "Ok well if I build to the NCP I have a far better chance of getting my rezoning and project approved." Developments though across cities though rezone properties counter to NCP.

Again without knowing an example, hard to say.

[vorpalsword]

I'm assuming the NCP part is fronting or near to road/neighborhood access and the other side is not, aka backs onto non-accessible land? You'd have to provide a real-world example I could look at.

But generally speaking FAR calculation is on an entire property but such a special case they might calculate it just the developable land or they'd have to subdivide the land and rezone. Also just because an NCP says X property is multi-family doesn't meant he property is actually zoned for that. NCPs are really just plans for what a city would like to see developers do. It's basically just a guide so that a developer goes "Ok well if I build to the NCP I have a far better chance of getting my rezoning and project approved." Developments though across cities though rezone properties counter to NCP.

Again without knowing an example, hard to say.


Thanks for the reply, I was looking at this property at 16273 20 Ave.
https://i.imgur.com/5VC9k5z.png
After viewing it with the layers on cosmos, it seems that I was wrong, and the power lines are just to one side of the property, but even in this case how exactly would they calculate FAR.

These other properties a bit below that one, at the corner of 164st and 18 ave, seem to be similar to the situation I initially described.
https://i.imgur.com/jka2STq.png

[GMasterAres]

I don't think FAR would really factor into any development on a property like that or out there. It is multi-family and near power lines so they are limited to basically townhouses or 4-5 storey wood condo buildings. Also the powerlines skirt a road right of way so they could only really build on the top right diagonal portion of the property.

Power lines maybe green space, bit they wouldn't be able to build anything under them.

Likely you'd see those properties subdivide.

But yah I doubt FAR would really matter, not on an RM zone.

[Nites]

https://i.gyazo.com/2e3ee23b0163691ac046504d2b119307.jpg

In front of City Centre 2.

[Bombaman]

Let's build these homeless shelters every 2 or 3 blocks. :cheers:

https://i.gyazo.com/2e3ee23b0163691ac046504d2b119307.jpg

In front of City Centre 2.

[Equinox71]

Let's build these homeless shelters every 2 or 3 blocks. :cheers:

Barring that ambitious suggestion :D , I do think that transitional housing near or on healthcare campuses is the best possible placement. Anything deemed socially 'unsavoury' that riles up even the most passive NIMBYs seems to dissipate immediately if it gets absorbed into the healthcare system as it then becomes virtually unnoticeable. For example, think Creekside Withdrawal Centre, Phoenix Centre's addictions housing, or Quibble Creek Sobering & Assessment Centre at Surrey Memorial - they're all but off the radar, aesthetically inconspicuous and blend in well with their environment. Of course, the fact that these facilities are actually much more successful in their objectives on hospital campuses is barely a footnote for a society generally less interested in agency efficacy. This same passionate debate is currently ongoing in East Van as Vancouver Detox is now being proposed for the Clark and Terminal area. Move the proposal a short distance away to integrate it with the newly conceived St. Paul's campus by Pacific Central and nobody would even raise an eyebrow.

[GMasterAres]

Let's build these homeless shelters every 2 or 3 blocks. :cheers:

That's a great place. There are a lot of services right around the hospital for those suffering through substance abuse and/or mental illness. It makes it easier to get them help and as Equinox71 points out above, the neighborhood already largely ignores these services because they blend in with the medical campus. Those that live around the area likely know they are there, but we also know that people being serviced in these places are trying to turn their lives around and invested in improvement.

Granted there are some residential homes in that exact block right now who may be a bit at odds possibly, but honestly they are going to get massive land value pay outs in the next 10 years as Innovation Boulevard expands through that stretch toward Fraser Highway. So if they're unhappy, I say get out now, and move to a different neighborhood.

[Shift]

https://i.gyazo.com/2e3ee23b0163691ac046504d2b119307.jpg

In front of City Centre 2.

That is an outdated sign / application number now. A new application 18-0210 has been submitted on that site for:

Development Permit to allow a five (5) storey residential building comprising of twenty-eight (28) shelter units, fifty-seven (57) transitional housing units, office, programme area, medical-dental office and amenity space.

There is also a new application directly to the north of it (18-0180) for a 6-storey office building.

https://i.imgur.com/4CU1Pix.jpg

[Shift]

There was a geotechnical assessment underway today, doing some drilling just to the west of the SFU building - on 'Lot G' & 'Lot F' on the plan below.

There is a residential tower in the works for that site, along with a new bus layover facility south of it. The bus layover facility needs to be built before they can remove the Surrey Central Bus Loop. Expect this to be ramping up in the next year or so.

https://i.imgur.com/bnUHzTg.jpg?1

For reference - site with all the trailers on it and vacant lot / white fourplex lot to north.

https://i.imgur.com/U83SksM.jpg?1

[iron]

Is that area drawing fairly new? I've been wondering how serious they were about that layover facility behind the new SFU building...

[Shift]

^It's taken from an old document (2013) but yes the layover facility / tower project is moving behind the scenes for that site.

[Shift]

25-storey tower 'The Holland' at Old Yale Rd & 133 St going to Council Monday. Site to be developed in 2 phases. Phase 1 = current 25-storey tower proposal at western end of site (Old Yale / 133). Eastern portion of the site (Old Yale / University) containing an existing 6-storey Kinsman Lodge will be redeveloped in phase 2. The lodge is scheduled to close in March 2019.

They are also dedicating a new road between the 2 phases that will continue north in the future (not shown on the City Centre Plan)

https://www.surrey.ca/bylawsandcouncillibrary/PLR_7914-0208-00.pdf

https://i.imgur.com/FGCFRFd.jpg

[CoryHolmes]

Cool! I was wondering what would become of that since I first saw the green sign all those ages ago.

[Cypherus]

Nice find Shift. Didn't expect this tower proposal to show up on this site given the inactivity for awhile. 25 stories puts it around the same height as Wave and Linea.

[EhJay]

As per the Regular Council Meeting: (https://www.surrey.ca/bylawsandcouncillibrary/ACT_RC_CURRENT.pdf)

SURREY CITY CENTRE/WHALLEY
18. 7914-0208-00
10158, 10170 and 10182 - 133 Street
13333 Old Yale Road
Stefan Slot, Townline Homes Inc. / 949152 B.C. Ltd.
Director Information: Rick Ilich
Officer Information as at August 30, 2017: R. Ilich (President, Secretary)
Land Use Contract Discharge
Rezoning of a portion from RF and RM-70 to CD
Rezoning of a portion from RM-70 to CD
Development Permit
to permit the development of a 25-storey residential high-rise tower on a portion of
the site and an interim retention of the existing care facility on a portion of the site.

Does anyone have any other info on this building?

[osirisboy]

So any guess what phase 2 will look like? Another 25 storey tower?

[Westbased]

As per the Regular Council Meeting: (https://www.surrey.ca/bylawsandcouncillibrary/ACT_RC_CURRENT.pdf)



Does anyone have any other info on this building?

The developer is Townline, they have been posting some updates on Instagram once in a while. They were working on interior design a few months ago so they are most likely close to bringing this to market.

[MOOVA]

The developer is Townline, they have been posting some updates on Instagram once in a while. They were working on interior design a few months ago so they are most likely close to bringing this to market.

I believe the sale's centre is going for final approval at the end of October.

It will be located at 13260 Old Yale Road, just up the road in a currently unused gravel lot. It'll also be construction worker parking for 3 years.

[Shift]

So any guess what phase 2 will look like? Another 25 storey tower?

Unless someone here has some inside info - nothing has been publicly released. May not even be determined yet.

[Shift]

Application submitted for the site below just north of 96th and King George.

Heritage medical building on the site is proposed to be preserved/revitalized with 276 residential units (unspecified height) to built behind it on the existing parking lot.

https://apps.surrey.ca/Online-Development-Inquiry/?year=18&seq=0276

https://i.imgur.com/v6mZ77s.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/XAtUZQm.jpg?1

[Shift]

Also - for the Knight & Day site across the street (application #17-0462) - rendering has emerged for the 25-storey tower proposed there:

https://i.imgur.com/9s9rjdO.jpg
https://www.instagram.com/adessavisuals/?hl=en

[Nites]

https://i.gyazo.com/45cc5dd09b925342439ed0b78ae2a428.jpg

Anyone know if there has been any activity with this site? There use to be a school here which was torn down maybe 5-6 years ago but nothing has happened since. It's a huge lot, probably around 2.5-3 acres.

[Sheba]

Anyone know if there has been any activity with this site? There use to be a school here which was torn down maybe 5-6 years ago but nothing has happened since. It's a huge lot, probably around 2.5-3 acres.

I know there's something but beyond residential (or primarily residential) I can't remember what's planned. :shrug:

[Blease]

Also - for the Knight & Day site across the street (application #17-0462) - rendering has emerged for the 25-storey tower proposed there:

https://i.imgur.com/9s9rjdO.jpg
https://www.instagram.com/adessavisuals/?hl=en

This 25 storey building looks great, hope it comes through.