Surrey/South Fraser Updates

[osirisboy]

^I could see the Great Wolf Lodge being built on the Semiahmoo First Nations land right next to the border / White Rock on the waterfront. The band has been wanting to do something with that land for a while, and I believe this could be it.

Why haven't they leased it out to a developer to build condos? I drive by there all the time and always think that would be such a great spot to develop a high density area. Right by highway and right on the water

[SurreyonTheMap]

Does anyone have any information regarding the apartment being constructed near 108 avenue with the red and white crane? Will it be just apartments or will they also add like a highrise around there besides the tien sher?

[EhJay]

Venue? I think it's a 5 storey building with rooftop patios

[clee7903]

Does anyone have any information regarding the apartment being constructed near 108 avenue with the red and white crane? Will it be just apartments or will they also add like a highrise around there besides the tien sher?

It's called Venue - just a low rise, no highrise however there is a new deveopment close by that will have several highrises. Application is going through the Surrey city hall review now. Below is the link with more info.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=228677

[Shift]

Surrey's annual 'PARKit' Pop-up park has a new home this year in Central City Plaza for Canada150. Installation in place between now and Sept 11.

Park has been quite busy during the day. Most of these photos (except for the 1st) were taken after 9pm once the mall had closed.

https://urbansurrey.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/vasdpy4.jpg

https://urbansurrey.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/dzemogd.jpg

https://urbansurrey.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/ztcdphn.jpg

https://urbansurrey.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/twc8avx.jpg

https://urbansurrey.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/q9ns8tr.jpg

https://urbansurrey.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/jn9hrvw.jpg

https://urbansurrey.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/ftadkap.jpg

https://urbansurrey.com/2017/06/20/canada150-pop-up-park-arrives-in-central-city-plaza/

[clee7903]

love those adirondack chairs!

[flipper316]

Surprised the homeless or street skids aren't visible in the pics.

[Shift]

Surprised the homeless or street skids aren't visible in the pics.

Central City Plaza is all office and university crowd.

Sketchy people tend to congregate outside the convenience store across from Surrey Central Station.

The homeless and skids are quite diluted by the 10,000's of commuters passing through the area everyday anyway.

[Shift]

Another view of the plaza from this morning

http://i.imgur.com/hPjugVM.jpg?1

[flipper316]

Central City Plaza is all office and university crowd.

Sketchy people tend to congregate outside the convenience store across from Surrey Central Station.

The homeless and skids are quite diluted by the 10,000's of commuters passing through the area everyday anyway.

i know that, but you will still see some hanging out by the mall entrance doors and the food court. not exactly a welcoming sight.

[Blease]

i know that, but you will still see some hanging out by the mall entrance doors and the food court. not exactly a welcoming sight.

And I saw two homeless looking young people begging for change outside Holt Renfrew just yesterday. Not a welcoming sight but they seem to exist in every commercial neighbourhood in the city, excepting perhaps West Vancouver, where admittedly I've never come across any homeless persons or feral youth.

[ninjakafi_81]

Does anybody know whats proposed on the Delta side of Scott Road and 75A Avenue?

[jollyburger]

Exterior lighting that is synchronized with Skytrain entering/exiting the King George station:

http://urbanyvr.com/park-boulevard-surrey-light-display

[Shift]

Exterior lighting that is synchronized with Skytrain entering/exiting the King George station:

http://urbanyvr.com/park-boulevard-surrey-light-display

^ Old news discussed here months ago

[jollyburger]

^ Old news discussed here months ago

^ Cool

[Dwils01]

New office building next to the Gateway Skytrain Station.
http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m498/DWils01/Vancouver/DSC06602_zpsknjb9twi.jpg

Condo at 108 Avenue and 138 Street.
http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m498/DWils01/Vancouver/DSC06604_zpsynaj6ohr.jpg
Pictures by me.

[Design-mind]

Prime on the Plaza.

Mine from last week. Not sure if the foreground project is part of Prime??

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4298/35982730781_866b34e81a_b.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4320/36116382625_1d1d5b0f9c_b.jpg

[Katherine S]

The foreground project is part of SFU's new building.

[RichmondOval]

http://www.fostermartin.ca/?gclid=CMG1xOW_odUCFRBEfgodFfwMcw

Saw this new development from an ad being proposed/built in White Rock. Thought this would be relevant to this thread!

[Design-mind]

The foreground project is part of SFU's new building.

Thanks Katherine S!

[Shift]

New mixed-use hotel at 98th & King George received 3rd reading (Preliminary Approval) Monday night.

This is across the street from The Hub at King George. Should start construction around the same time. Will mean 5 towers going up in that area all at once (The Hub (3 towers), Concord, Hotel).

Hotel will be a Hampton by Hilton brand.

Nice architectural design with many sustainable features, and a slim profile.

30-storeys above a 6-storey podium.

Will consist of:

181 residential dwelling units
112 room hotel
8 two-storey ground-oriented townhouses
133 square metres (1,432 sq. ft.) of ground-level commercial space.

http://i.imgur.com/ie97vtA.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/gLCoZou.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/m39XBYu.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/29asCir.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/6HrEEAx.jpg?1

http://www.surrey.ca/bylawsandcouncillibrary/PLR_7916-0183-00.pdf

[officedweller]

Nice!

Thanks for posting.

107.5 m tall (30 storeys in total, including the podium)
The hotel is only 4 floors behind the fritted glass.

At first I thought the angular appearance was from balcony railings,
but then realized that the balcony floorplates are parallelograms with alternating skews each floor.

[LeftCoaster]

30-storeys above a 6-storey podium.


Just for clarification its 30 storeys total. 24 storeys over a 6 storey podium.

Reminds me a lot of Theatre Tower here in Toronto:

http://urbantoronto.ca/sites/default/files/imagecache/display-slideshow/images/articles/2015/08/16911/16911-56370.jpg

[Shift]

^
Yes that building came to mind for me as well! Very similar except i'm liking how the 'exo-skeleton'-like balconies wrap around all sides of the Surrey tower as opposed to just balconies on the front.

[osirisboy]

Well this is very exciting. I love it.

[Blease]

This is a slick looking building and seems wholly unsuited for the Hampton brand which to my understanding is very middle of the road. This really should have been a straight ahead Hilton hotel. Hampton Inns are usually in squat four story buildings and don't look very impressive. Is it possible Hampton by Hilton is an altogether different brand. Or has Hampton gone upmarket?? Would appreciate if someone could provide feedback.

[officedweller]

The hotel is only in 4 storeys of the podium.
Amenities are a shared exercise room, pool and breakfast area and lounge.

[Shift]

^It is intentionally a mid-range hotel. The developer was saying at the public hearing how this hotel will provide an alternative lower price-point to the 5-star Civic Hotel in the area.

Looking in more detail, and from the planning report, the podium fronting King George will feature "An abstract pixelated image of a British Columbia landscape fritted (printed) on the curtain wall glass"

http://i.imgur.com/fqV0oBE.jpg?1

[Whalleyboy]

now if only there was some sort of entertainment for people staying in these hotels going up

[EhJay]

Sorry about the HUGE pictures.
But here's the site

http://imgur.com/ucfS2TD.jpg

[Shift]

^That big grass field is Century Group's 'Holland Gardens' site.

The hotel site is the small narrow site next to the CRA building south of the concrete tower.

[Shift]

now if only there was some sort of entertainment for people staying in these hotels going up

The hotel will serve the growing 'Innovation Boulevard' medical/technology district, as well as other business and personal travelers to the area. Will also offer accommodation for Holland Park Festival goers in the summer months - FVDED festival (Lots of people from out of town attend) and Fusion Festival.

[scryer]

I vote that the hotel proposal gets its own thread.... Am I the only one?

[Shift]

Since it's approved, why not. I'll create one.

[CoryHolmes]

This is great news!

[officedweller]

Residents protest as White Rock considers parkade near waterfront
http://www.theprovince.com/business/commercial-real-estate/residents+protest+white+rock+considers+parkade/14022251/story.html

[Shift]

^White Rock beach needs a parkade. That area is really busy and the current parking situation is inadequate.

Guess residents prefer long traffic jams of people idling in their cars along Marine Drive looking for parking.

[retro_orange]

^White Rock beach needs a parkade. That area is really busy and the current parking situation is inadequate.

Guess residents prefer long traffic jams of people idling in their cars along Marine Drive looking for parking.

I don't understand why they don't just do an underground parkade with condos or apartments above.

[Shift]

There is a new condo building under construction (or recently completed?) on Marine Drive right in the heart of the beach strip - probably doesn't have public parking through.

[Shift]

New proposal just south of Guildford Mall for 2 mixed-use residential towers.


http://i.imgur.com/vlopEXw.jpg?1

https://apps.surrey.ca/Online-Development-Inquiry/?year=17&seq=0047

[osirisboy]

Well that's good to see!! It's too bad guilford didn't incorporate residential into the mall when they renovated/expanded

[Shift]

^Yeah I believe what was built was stripped down quite a bit from the original proposal. Was supposed to be more of a village / outdoor mall expansion? There is still opportunity to develop the parking lots along 152 St though.

[retro_orange]

Yeah Guildford is surrounded by oodles of parking that could be massively densified, and more than likely will eventually be. It could fit 10 towers around it at least. The property is huge and the Sears store will close sooner or later so there's another spot for a tower.

There's also potential to build new movie theatres into an expansion of the mall which could free up that connected land the older theatres are on. They were getting older and had basement flooding issues when I lived in the area over ten years ago. I dunno what their current condition is but it's time for a rebuild of the tacky big box standalone theatres IMO.

[AForce]

The Guildford theater was actually just renovated, super nice now

[WaxItYourself]

I believe they have started work on the North Surrey Arena by Scott road station. I can't find any threads on it which is odd. I saw it from the Skytrain and looking at the large set of pillars standing up there it looks similar to the idea they have for the Arena.

https://www.civicsurrey.com/2016/11/11/first-look-at-the-new-north-surrey-arenas-replacement-project/

[clee7903]

The Guildford theater was actually just renovated, super nice now

Yes, besides the comfy chairs, they've redone the concessions area too. Less tacky compared to the old style. Has a simpler look now.

[Whalleyboy]

Yeah have to say the reno they did there makes it so much better. I use to travel out to Langley to see movies now I actually prefer going to Guildford with the new comfy seats.

[EhJay]

Agreed. Those new chairs are the reason to go out now. Comfy, spacious, and you can even cuddle if that's your thing!

[Nites]

Yes, besides the comfy chairs, they've redone the concessions area too. Less tacky compared to the old style. Has a simpler look now.

I felt the entrance had more character before. The seats are amazing though. They are actually longer then the reclining seats at cineplex.

[Shift]

Not sure where to post this but here is a rough mark-up of the King George station area by 2020/2021. The 6 new towers shown are all expected to be under construction by next year.



http://i.imgur.com/iWFKwmm.jpg

[Vin]

You forgot the 50-storey Education Centre tower? Or is that further to the north?

[Shift]

Surrey Central is not visible in this pic. It's in the opposite direction.

Will have to do another mark-up showing from Gateway to King George.

[SurreyonTheMap]

Thanks for the post Shift. KG station is going be really dense after all these tower plus the 4 more residential building.

[Shift]

Yeah this is just the 2018-2021 wave.

2020-2025 will see 9 more towers added to this view:

Holland Gardens (3 towers)
Hub Phase C-D (3 towers)
100 Ave east of Park Avenue (2 towers)
King George south of Hampton (1 tower)

All currently under application

[SurreyonTheMap]

Yeah this is just the 2018-2021 wave.

2020-2025 will see 9 more towers added to this view:

Holland Gardens (3 towers)
Hub Phase C-D (3 towers)
100 Ave east of Park Avenue (2 towers)
King George south of Hampton (1 tower)

All currently under application

What type of building is King George South of Hampton? Haven't heard of this proposal before.

[Blease]

What type of building is King George South of Hampton? Haven't heard of this proposal before.

I think the 12 storey Innvoation bldg isn't meant to be behind Hampton, it's the 3rd of the Medical bldgs being built right now and it's supposed to be on the other side of King George Blvd. I guess even Shift makes mistakes every now and then.

[Shift]

What type of building is King George South of Hampton? Haven't heard of this proposal before.

9677 King George Blvd

Active application since 2009:
18-storey building, consisting of retail uses, medical offices, a care facility and multiple residential housing.

https://apps.surrey.ca/Online-Development-Inquiry/?year=09&seq=0145

http://atelierpacific.com/projects/high-rise/king-george-boulevard/


I think the 12 storey Innvoation bldg isn't meant to be behind Hampton, it's the 3rd of the Medical bldgs being built right now and it's supposed to be on the other side of King George Blvd. I guess even Shift makes mistakes every now and then.

The 12-storey Innovation Village project is in the correct place. It's being developed by WestStone Group. There is even a thread for it. Site clearing is underway now.

http://www.weststonegroup.com/innovation-1-2-3/

You're thinking of the 3rd City Centre Professional building proposed by Lark Group.

[Shift]

Application has been submitted for a new '1000 unit' development on the site highlighted below. Currently a grass field as you're coming up the hill on King George.

Architect is MCM (http://www.mcmparchitects.com/portfolio)

I've seen early plans and they are proposing 3 towers, each above a 6-storey podium along King George Blvd south of Barker St and 2 additional 6-storey buildings north of Barker St. Barker St will connect through to Bolivar as part of the project cutting the site in half.

https://i.imgur.com/P2vYNTl.jpg
https://apps.surrey.ca/Online-Development-Inquiry/?year=17&seq=0397

[flipper316]

why do i have a feeling with that project they'll add another set of lights to KGB.

[EhJay]

There's already lights at University and KGB

[flipper316]

There's already lights at University and KGB

Yea I know but I have a feeling they'll put up lights there cuz they know drivers are too lazy to drive 100 metres to the next intersection.

[AndroidGirl]

Bing Thom’s Michael Heeney to Lead Surrey Development Corp

I think this is an incredibly exciting news. Hopefully this means more landmarks and less templated condos in the future!

https://www.canadianarchitect.com/architecture/bing-thoms-michael-heeney-lead-surrey-development-corp/1003739540/

[Marshal]

He is a very good guy.
Though, could Surrey become any more of a Bing Thom insider's group?

[GMasterAres]

Bing Thom’s Michael Heeney to Lead Surrey Development Corp

I think this is an incredibly exciting news. Hopefully this means more landmarks and less templated condos in the future!

https://www.canadianarchitect.com/architecture/bing-thoms-michael-heeney-lead-surrey-development-corp/1003739540/

Likely not on the less templated condos given Surrey Development Corp isn't part of the development process for the majority of projects. It is actually an arm of the City of Surrey and a developer in its own rights in essence (sort of). So yes likely some more landmark projects but they mostly focus on city owner land development and partnering with other developers from time to time to push the city's goals.

[CoryHolmes]

Just saw a big crane on the corner of Anthem's Surrey lot, on Whalley Blvd and 102. But it was raining and I was walking, so I didn't go over to investigate.

Any ideas what's going on there?

[EhJay]

Just saw a big crane on the corner of Anthem's Surrey lot, on Whalley Blvd and 102. But it was raining and I was walking, so I didn't go over to investigate.

Any ideas what's going on there?

Went by it today and it's just sitting there alone with an old motorhome next to it. On Friday there were 3 school buses parked by it, but they're gone now. But no, not sure what the deal is.

[Shift]

Anthem is now branding that project 'Georgetown'

https://anthemproperties.com/properties/surrey-city-centre/

[Blease]

Anthem is now branding that project 'Georgetown'

https://anthemproperties.com/properties/surrey-city-centre/

Interesting names these Surrey Central developments are choosing, ie. West Village and now Georgetown, which also happen to be impossibly chic inner city neighbourhoods in Manhattan and Washington DC respectively.

[CoryHolmes]

Georgetown will also be situated on King George Blvd. It plays into that name as well.

[Sheba]

Anthem is now branding that project 'Georgetown'

https://anthemproperties.com/properties/surrey-city-centre/

From August
From Adessa Visuals instagram

Early rendering of the proposed Anthem Properties Surrey City Centre development:

http://i.imgur.com/VptiUvJ.jpg

Site for reference:

http://i.imgur.com/PjFFnSz.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/6GQbcQQ.jpg?1

[Equinox71]

At long last, that hideous rat-infested relic at King George and 64th comes down. See for yourself: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/surrey-public-market-demolition-1.4297856. :)

[Whalleyboy]

now if only someone would come in and make something of the building on 104ave

[osirisboy]

At long last, that hideous rat-infested relic at King George and 64th comes down. See for yourself: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/surrey-public-market-demolition-1.4297856. :)

Yeah but it sounds like it's getting replaced with a strip mall and one 6 storey typical condo building

[Envder]

http://www.surreynowleader.com/news/outdoor-spectator-stadium-in-surrey-eyed-as-home-for-pro-sports-team/

Proposed outdoor stadium for surrey
wonder who wants to move here

[EhJay]

http://www.surreynowleader.com/news/outdoor-spectator-stadium-in-surrey-eyed-as-home-for-pro-sports-team/

Proposed outdoor stadium for surrey
wonder who wants to move here

Few details, but it sounds like this mystery party wants to move fast.... Be interesting if its 5 or 20 thousand seats

[GlassCity]

He mentions "a few thousand" seats, so I don't think it would be 20. Only teams that could fill that would be the Whitecaps or the Lions, and I imagine they're both happy at BC Place.

Maybe it could house the rumoured Fraser Valley CSL team? There are also rumours of pro rugby making its way up here but that's still in the very early stages and I doubt they'd build a new stadium for that.

[iron]

Looks like the article was updated this morning to reveal the mystery party as the "Canadian Premier League".

[Blease]

Looks like the article was updated this morning to reveal the mystery party as the "Canadian Premier League".

If they changed it to primeira liga, they would just sell so many more tickets.

[Ramsay]

http://www.surreynowleader.com/news/outdoor-spectator-stadium-in-surrey-eyed-as-home-for-pro-sports-team/

Proposed outdoor stadium for surrey
wonder who wants to move here

Surrey should focus on building an arena close to Skytrain which could be used for WHL hockey, varsity sports, and concerts.

[Blease]

If the proposed stadium does actually come about, it will most likely be built next to Scott Road station.

[SurreyonTheMap]

If the proposed stadium does actually come about, it will most likely be built next to Scott Road station.

Could work with Gateway station as there is plenty of space there, plus it has BC lions training area, baseball fields, plus the soccer fields and the chuck bailey recreation centre. So it would be a great place for a stadium in terms of sports.

[Blease]

Could work with Gateway station as there is plenty of space there, plus it has BC lions training area, baseball fields, plus the soccer fields and the chuck bailey recreation centre. So it would be a great place for a stadium in terms of sports.

I honestly think that the very large chunk of land stretching northwards from Surrey Central right up to the river is probably the most viable space for any emerging large-scale projects within Greater Vancouver whether that means stadium or the new Amazon campus hub. I mean if Amazon actually wanted to move Vancouver, where else could they possibly set up a 50,000 employee facility next to skytrain and other urban amenities. One way or another there is great potential for that land.

[CanSpice]

I honestly think that the very large chunk of land stretching northwards from Surrey Central right up to the river is probably the most viable space for any emerging large-scale projects within Greater Vancouver whether that means stadium or the new Amazon campus hub. I mean if Amazon actually wanted to move Vancouver, where else could they possibly set up a 50,000 employee facility next to skytrain and other urban amenities. One way or another there is great potential for that land.

Make Brownsville Great Again?

[tovan]

Could work with Gateway station as there is plenty of space there, plus it has BC lions training area, baseball fields, plus the soccer fields and the chuck bailey recreation centre. So it would be a great place for a stadium in terms of sports.

Gateway Station area has lots of potential and would be a great location to establish a sports hub.

[Shift]

You can look on cosmos.surrey.ca to see which parcels of land are city owned. They are coloured in Pink.

It would make sense to fit in around the area of the BC Lions training facility / baseball diamonds / soccer fields. This area is identified to be focused on sports/recreation in the City Centre Plan.

The pink city owned properties next just to the north of the baseball diamonds south of 108 / west of University will not be the site however. I know for a fact that 5 towers are being planned for this site right now.

I dont see any big city owned parcels around Scott Rd except for where the Ice Rinks are going.

The Soccer Stadium could go elsewhere in the City. Makes more sense in the City Centre or Scott Rd area though.

https://i.imgur.com/jj3mNL7.jpg

[iron]

If this is going on existing city-owned land, then I don't see any good spots in Whalley to plop this building.

[EhJay]

He mentions "a few thousand" seats, so I don't think it would be 20. Only teams that could fill that would be the Whitecaps or the Lions, and I imagine they're both happy at BC Place.

Maybe it could house the rumoured Fraser Valley CSL team? There are also rumours of pro rugby making its way up here but that's still in the very early stages and I doubt they'd build a new stadium for that.

"Hayne said whether a Surrey stadium would be in the 8,000 to 10,000-seat range or 15,000 to 20,000 seats would depend on bids, but the city isn’t interested in contributing capital funds unless the province is involved in taking on some of the risk." From the Vancouver Sun article.

But, we'll see what happens.
Not sure I can see a CPL team taking off in Surrey right now, but we'll see.

[Envder]

Okay so did a little looking around at other teams for this and their stadium sizes

Confirmed
Winnipeg - 33,234
Hamilton - 24,000

Rumored cities
Calgary - 35,400
Regina - 33,000
ottawa - 24,000
Edmonton - 5,000
Halifax - 8,000

So out side of halifax and edmonton they have some large stadiums.
I wouldn't be surprised to see at least over 10,000 seats. It is possible they do go with 20,000 too after all we are the third largest metro in Canada. Add Surrey also could pull in from the fraser Valley

Oh I also notice Victoria was a possible city they are looking at. would be cool to see both Surrey and Victoria get a team could make for some nice rivalry and really drive up people watching and going to the games. not holding high hopes for that though

[GlassCity]

Okay so did a little looking around at other teams for this and their stadium sizes

Confirmed
Winnipeg - 33,234
Hamilton - 24,000

Rumored cities
Calgary - 35,400
Regina - 33,000
ottawa - 24,000
Edmonton - 5,000
Halifax - 8,000

So out side of halifax and edmonton they have some large stadiums.
I wouldn't be surprised to see at least over 10,000 seats. It is possible they do go with 20,000 too after all we are the third largest metro in Canada. Add Surrey also could pull in from the fraser Valley

Oh I also notice Victoria was a possible city they are looking at. would be cool to see both Surrey and Victoria get a team could make for some nice rivalry and really drive up people watching and going to the games. not holding high hopes for that though

The reason most of those stadiums are so big is because they already exist and there may not be a smaller alternative. I'd be very surprised if Surrey built a 20,000 seat stadium. Yes the team will draw from all over the Lower Mainland, but it's still a second-tier soccer team. They're not gonna draw as much as the Whitecaps are.

[Sheba]

The reason most of those stadiums are so big is because they already exist and there may not be a smaller alternative. I'd be very surprised if Surrey built a 20,000 seat stadium. Yes the team will draw from all over the Lower Mainland, but it's still a second-tier soccer team. They're not gonna draw as much as the Whitecaps are.

Also from what I remember the Whitecaps only use the lower portion of BC Place, so a bit shy of 30,000. Even the Coliseum is 16,000 and how much use does it get these days? Then there's the one in Abbotsford that's 7,000. I'd suspect if a stadium is built in Surrey it wouldn't top 10,000.

[officedweller]

I expect this will be an outdoor stadium, not an indoor arena.
So think Swangard Stadium or Thunderbird Stadium.

Swangard can seat 5,288.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swangard_Stadium

Thunderbird can seat 3,500 in the grandstand.
http://sportfacilities.ubc.ca/thunderbird-stadium/

[Envder]

The reason most of those stadiums are so big is because they already exist and there may not be a smaller alternative. I'd be very surprised if Surrey built a 20,000 seat stadium. Yes the team will draw from all over the Lower Mainland, but it's still a second-tier soccer team. They're not gonna draw as much as the Whitecaps are.

Actually this is set to be a tier 1 league not tier 2.

[GlassCity]

Actually this is set to be a tier 1 league not tier 2.

Sorry I don't actually know how soccer tiers work, I just meant it's a step down from the MLS. Or is it not? I assumed it was at the same level as the NASL.

[Envder]

nope suppose to be same level as MLS

[GlassCity]

My mistake then.

[Envder]

So first a stadium
now an arena possibly

http://www.surreynowleader.com/news/surrey-considering-7000-to-10000-seat-hockey-arena/
With Surrey’s population rapidly increasing, is it time for the city to consider building a large arena?

Local investment banker Inde Sumal seems to think so, as he’s leading a group that’s expressing interest in bringing a large arena to Surrey.

Sumal is looking to bring a new 7,000-10,000 seat arena to Bridgeview near Scott Road Station. While Bridgeview is the main option, there are two other areas in Surrey that Sumal’s group is looking at.


If construction of the arena goes through, it would stand to be the largest arena and entertainment centre in Surrey by a wide margin.

“The purpose of the arena will be for a hockey team, with the ability to host concerts and community events.” said Sumal.

Sumal said that his group “has a team looking to relocate,” but he would not comment on which team is looking at moving into the proposed arena.

Aside from hockey, Sumal wants the facility to be an entertainment venue for concerts.

“If there’s an artist that is too small for Rogers arena, they could make their way out here,” he said.

One of the main attractions for Sumal’s group is the rapid population growth of Surrey. According to city estimates, Surrey’s population has grown by nearly 100,000 people over the last ten years.

“We look at population growth when we do our research,” said Sumal. “We thought that perhaps Surrey could be the next hub for a large sports facility.”

The other benefit of the Bridgeview area for Sumal’s group is that it’s right near a major transit hub.

“Surrey has the transit, enabling the residents of Greater Vancouver to make their way Surrey,” said Sumal.

“From a land value perspective, it’s also advantageous,” he said.

Both Sumal and Mayor Linda Hepner stress that discussions are in the preliminary stages.

“Sumal feels that the addition of a grade A calibre arena and entertainment facility would be a welcome amenity for a growing metropolis such as Surrey,” said Hepner.

“Discussions with the city are in the preliminary stages, but we’re encouraged with the responses that we are receiving from the city,” Sumal.

Currently, the largest seated arena in Surrey would be South Surrey Arena which is home to the BCHL’s South Surrey Eagles. That arena currently holds 1,240 people.

Aside from Rogers Arena, Vancouver has two large facilities with the Pacific Coliseum and Doug Mitchell Thunderbird Sports Arena at UBC. The largest arenas outside of Vancouver are the Langley Events Centre with 5,276 seats, and the Abbotsford Centre which has a maximum capacity of 8,500.

Based on Sumal’s comments, Surrey could be home to the largest arena in the Lower Mainland outside of Vancouver.

[Ramsay]

So first a stadium
now an arena possibly

http://www.surreynowleader.com/news/surrey-considering-7000-to-10000-seat-hockey-arena/

This is good news, hopefully pans out.
I'm not sold on Bridgeview location though, it makes me think of the Coliseum on the PNE grounds.There was nothing to do except drive home after the game.

Personally, I think a great location would be the old Best Buy site at the Central city mall. it is between two Skytrain stations and it would add lot buzz to the city nightlife after events, being in the DT core.

[Sheba]

This is good news, hopefully pans out.
I'm not sold on Bridgeview location though, it makes me think of the Coliseum on the PNE grounds.There was nothing to do except drive home after the game.


There's nothing to do there *now* - that doesn't mean there will never be anything to do in the area. There have already been some development plans.

[Shift]

This is good news, hopefully pans out.
I'm not sold on Bridgeview location though, it makes me think of the Coliseum on the PNE grounds.There was nothing to do except drive home after the game.

Personally, I think a great location would be the old Best Buy site at the Central city mall. it is between two Skytrain stations and it would add lot buzz to the city nightlife after events, being in the DT core.

By the time an arena is actually built down there, the area will start to change. The plan for that area is for Transit Oriented Village development. A stadium would make a lot of sense down there as a catalyst for development around it, and very central to the region.

The Best Buy site is too small for a stadium, but would be a good location too though if it were bigger. Scott Rd Station benefits in being closer for people coming from north of the river.

[Ramsay]

There's nothing to do there *now* - that doesn't mean there will never be anything to do in the area. There have already been some development plans.

By the time an arena is actually built down there, the area will start to change. The plan for that area is for Transit-Oriented Village development. A stadium would make a lot of sense down there as a catalyst for development around it, and very central to the region.

The Best Buy site is too small for a stadium but would be a good location too though if it were bigger. Scott Rd Station benefits in being closer for people coming from north of the river.

Both valid points...I'm just impatient and don't want to wait another 20+ years for things to materialize.