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sugit
Mar 1, 2007, 2:35 AM
Since the other is going to get closed soon, time to start a new one

Let me know if I missed anything.

OLD THREAD (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=114399)

Under Construction:

500 Capitol Mall
5th and Capitol Mall
Developer: Angelo G Tsakopoulos
Architect: Ed Kado
24-Stories, 396 feet, 430K office space, 24K Retail Space
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/1157/d3slide3d2highlightru0.jpg





Crocker Art Museum Expansion
3rd and O Street
http://www.crockerartmuseum.org/about/expansion.htm
125,000 sqaure feet expansion
*300-seat auditorium/lecture theatre
*Cafe with indoor and open-air seating in the courtyard
*Loading dock, freight elevator and increased onsite storage space
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/3476/0044r28tc3.jpg
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4379/0044r29cm8.jpg


Sutter Health Expansion
- Anderson Lucchetti Women's and Children's Center
- Ose Adams Medical Pavilion
- B Street Theatre and the Children's Theatre of California
http://www.suttermedicalcenter.org/expansion/slideimages/slide2.jpg
http://www.suttermedicalcenter.org/expansion/slideimages/slide9.jpg



14th and R Warehouse Rehad:
14th and R Street - 12 for sale lofts
Retail: The Shady Lady, Burgers and Brew, Magpie Market, Top this Yogurt
Developer: D&S Development (http://www.dandsdev.com/)
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2221/1409rdj5sc0.jpg



Firestone Building Rehad
16th and L Street
Tenants: Sapporo Japaneses Restaurant, California Pizza Kitchen, DeVere's Irish Pub and, a lounge operated by the owners of Mason's.
http://media.sacbee.com/smedia/2007/08/03/18/971-6B4FIRESTONE.embedded.prod_affiliate.4.JPG



Hale's Building: 9th and K Street - Office conversion in 33 loft rentals
Developer: Paul Petrovich
Architect: LPA Sacramento
http://www.lpasacramento.com/photos_projects/Hale's%20Building%20Lofts%201.gif



Sacramento International Airport Phase I Expansion 2010/11
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/urban_encounter/Airport2.jpg
$1.1 Billion
New Central Terminal Complex
New 23 Gate Concourse B (with 3 International Gates)
New Parking Garage #2
New FAA Control Tower
Automated People Mover to Concourse B
Upper/Lower Decking of Roadway for Central Terminal (Arrivals and Departures)
Fentress Bradburn Architects of Denver/Corgan Associates


_________________________________________________________________

Approvals Gained, Site Prep Stage, Awaiting Official Construction

Cathedral Square Building
11th and J Street
Developer: St Anton / Cordano Company
Architect: Kwan Henmi Architecture/Planning
26 Stories, 233 Units, 15K Retail, 27K Office
http://www.antonllc.com/properties/CathedralSquare/CSNF.jpg


700 K Street Block Renovation
700 Block K Street Mall
Developer: Joe Zieden
Renovate "historic" buildings on the 700 Block of K Street Mall to include retailers such as Borders, Urban Outfitter, Lucky Brand Dungarees and Sur la Table among others on the most blighted block in Downtown Sacramento. Total footprint should be over 60K of new retail space. Some housing units may be added
http://downtownsac.org/uploads/projects/zeiden_6_2006_02.gif


Captiol Lofts
http://www.capitollofts.com/
12th and R Street
Developer: Regis Homes
Architect: David Baker & Partners
119 Warehouse Conversion Loft Units, 3K Retail Space
http://www.capitollofts.com/images/bricks.jpg
http://www.capitollofts.com/images/capitol_renderings.jpg


East End Gateway Sites II and III
16th and O Street
Developer: Ravel Rasmussen Properties
Architect: Chang Partners
Site II: 4 Stories, 24 Apartments, 4900 sf retail
Site III: 5 Stores, 60 Apartment, 7100 sf retail
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb297/snfenoc/EastEndGateway_1.jpg


Trammell Crow
Alhambra and S Street
278 condominiums
http://www.lpasacramento.com/photos_projects/Alhambra.S.1.gif


401 Broadway
4th and Broadway
http://www.sacfrg.org/images/401-BWay-10.jpg

Capital Unity Center
16th and N
www.capitalunity.org
The Capital Unity Council strives to create an inclusive environment of understanding, acceptance, respect, and celebration of differentness with programs that provide opportunities for learning, partnerships, coalition building, access to services and information, promotion of sound public policy and assembly at our flagship Unity Center.
http://www.capitalunity.org/images/option2av1.jpg



_________________________________________________________________

Proposals/Planning /Approval Stage:


Housing, Office and Hotel

701 L Street
7th and L Street
Developer: Danny Benvenuti
Architect: HOK
31-Stories, 445 Feet, 80 Rental Units, 240K Ofice Space, 10K Retail
* Project Hinges on Relocation of Greyhound Station
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/urban_encounter/701-1.jpg


The Metropolitan
10th and J Street
Developer: Saca Development
Architect: Kwan Henmi Architecture/Planning
38 Stories, 350 Condos Units, 13,000 Ground Floor Retail
http://www.kwanhenmi.com/images/portfolio/housing/metropolitan/metropolitan_1_bg.jpg


Meridain II
15th and K Street
Developer: Angelo Tsakopoulos and Tony Giannoni
Architect: Hornberger+Worstell
22 Story Office Building, 300 Feet
http://media.sacbee.com/smedia/2007/11/06/18/916-3B7SHALLIT.highlight.prod_affiliate.4.JPG

Crystal Ice Building Rehad
R Street between 16th and 18th
141 Housing Units - 7 Story Building
121,000 Retail Space
Developer: Mark Friedman
Architects: GBD Architects
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/5431/cice1ac4.png
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/7742/rstreet1xa8.png



Newton Booth
Developer: LJ Urban
http://www.ljurban.com/projects_newton_booth.php
27th and V Street
Architect: David Mogavero
32 housing units
http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7564/1334/320/429214/Rendering%252003.jpg
http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7564/1334/320/897441/Rendering%252002.jpg


Riveredge
7 Towers (between 10 and 20 stories)
Along 14 acres of West Sacramento Waterfront
South of Tower Bridge and West Capitol Avenue
791 market residential units
104 affordable residential units
120k sf retail/commercial office space
200 room hotel
Developer/Architect Dean Unger and Associates
Status: Proposal/ financing not yet secured
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/urban_encounter/tower.jpg


Riverfront Docks
Developer: KSWM Docks Partners, LLC
Kenwood Investments, Stockbridge Capital and Wilson Meany Sullivan.
Development of the area know as the "Docks" on the riverfront with housing, retail and open space
http://www.news10.net/assetpool/images/0581023555_riverfront2-185.jpg
Conceptual Rendering
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/2664/dockswc6.png


_________________________________________________________________

Culture, Arts and Entertainment Development:


Sacramento Performing Arts Center
13th and K Street Mall
Renovation of the City's 2500-seat theater, including an expanded lobby, modernized infrastructure, back of house and loading area expansions
http://downtownsac.org/uploads/projects/comthe.jpg

Studios for the Perfoming Arts
14th and H Street
4-Story 46,000 Sqaure Feet building that will provide rehearsal, office, and classroom space for The Sacramento Ballet, Sacramento Opera, Sacramento Philharmoic Orchestra, and California Musical Theatre..
Project is currently under going 11.5M fund raising efforts. Project is expected to be completed in 2 years.
http://www.californiamusicaltheatre.com/UserFiles/Image/pic_SPA_a_300(1).jpg


Museum of Railroad Technology
The spacious railroad shop buildings will house the Museum’s collection of historic locomotives and railroad cars, with a formal museum exhibit galleries included to interpret railroad engineering and technology. Children will have the opportunity to explore fundamental physics and engineering principles through hands-on, interactive exhibits.
http://downtownsac.org/uploads/projects/railroad_tech_museum.jpg



Sacramento Childrens Museum
Undetermined Site
www.sacramentochildrensmuseum.org
The mission of the Sacramento Children's Museum is to spark a passion for life-long learning. Our vision is to be the world's most innovative children's museum. The Sacramento Children's Museum will be a hands-on, play-based environment where childhood is respected, nurtured and celebrated; a place where children can engage in and enjoy the world in which we live.


_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Transportation and Streetscape Development

Sacramento Intermodal Transportation Facility
The Intermodal Transportation Facility plan would feature both local and national rail and bus transportation services. The historic depot would act as a gateway to a concourse offering Light Rail connection, parking, bus terminals, restaurant, shops and other retail. The Sacramento Northern configuration will connect light and heavy rail, bus, shuttle, taxis and future high-speed rail through construction of modern facilities and reuse of the historic depot. The proposal relocates the historic depot 350 feet north and restores its original use as a waiting area, ticketing counter and dining room.
http://downtownsac.org/uploads/projects/intermodal.jpg

The R Street Market Pedestrian Walkway and Plaza
To be completd along with the Crystal Ice Building Rehad to create a pedestrain walkway with festivals, walking, outdoor eating, street venders and markets.
R Street Market Pedestrian Walkway and Plaza Report (http://www.sacog.org/regionalfunding/fundingprograms/pdf/2006/03/17/16C_Sac%20City_R%20st%20Plaza.pdf)
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4792/rstreetplazalh8.png
Rendering of completed Crystal Ice Building and Pedestrain Walkway
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/4825/rstreetplaza1gc8.png


[/b]K Street Mall Streetscape Improvements
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/2434/untitled2jo6.png
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/2117/untitled1rd2.png


_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Major Urban Infill Developments

[b]Railyards
Developer: Millennia Sacramento III LLC
Architect: Jon Jerde
10,000 Residential Units, 2.3M Office Space, 620 Retail
Proposed mixed-use redevelopment of the 240-acre UP Railyards to include residential, hotel, retail and commercial uses. 10-15 Year Build Out
http://downtownsac.org/uploads/projects/milennia.jpg


Township 9 (formerly known as Capitol Station 65)
A 65 acre Major Project located in the Richards Boulevard area that is currently under review. This innovative proposal consists of a
mix of 2,982 residential units (1,084 apartments, 1,717 condominiums, 16 live/work units, 164 town homes),145,000 square feet of retail, and approximately
12.0± acres of openspace.
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5167/t9qr8.jpg

______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Recently Completed


"The Citizen" Hotel
10th and J Street
200 room hotel operated by Joie de Vivre Hospitality.
www.jdvhospitality.com
14 Story office building being converted into a boutique hotel operated by JDV. Includes ground floor restaurant
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_H0EzyJb8qS8/STh-t0XOlAI/AAAAAAAAAIg/MKuhc0eOupQ/s320/CitizenHotelRendering.jpg


CalSTRS Headquarters Building
14 Stories, West Sacramento Riverfront
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/377/calstrs400k1nf.jpg



The Cosmopolitan
10th and K Street Mall
Developers: David S. Taylor Int and CIM Group
Comso's Cafe, Social Nightclub, and Cosmopolitan Cabaret
http://media.sacbee.com/smedia/2007/06/07/18/302-7X10KSTREETDT.embedded.prod_affiliate.4.JPG



Globe Mills
12th & C streets
Developer: Cyrus Youssefi and Skip Rosenbloom
Architect: Applied Architecture, Mike Malinowski
6 Story Reuse of Historic Globe Mills, 143 Senior Units
http://www.shra.org/Content/CommunityDevelopment/AlkaliFlat/AFProjects/GlobeSilos.jpg
http://www.shra.org/Content/CommunityDevelopment/AlkaliFlat/AFProjects/GlobeRendering.jpg


Tapestri Square (http://www.tapestrisquare.com/): 21st and T Street - 58 brownstones


SoCap Lofts: 7th and R Street - 32 loft style for sale units


US Bank Building
6th and Capitol Mall
www.621capitolmall.com
Developer: David S. Taylor Interests
Architect: HOK
24 Stories, 400 Feet, 342K Office Space, 24K Ground Floor Retail
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/7356/62142wn.jpg


1600 H Street
http://www.1600hlofts.com/
16th and H
50 Housing Units, 10K Retail Space
http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7564/1334/320/139054/43B018F0-F468-4305-8CB3-717325CF05C5_or.jpg


Sutter Townhouses
Developer: Loftworks
26th/27th and N Street
28 Townhouses
http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7564/1334/320/834947/Loftworks.jpg


L Street Lofts
18th and L Street
www.LStreetLofts.com
Developer: Sotiris Kolokotronis
Architect: Ankrom Moisan Associated Architects
8 Stories, 92 Condo Units, 6K Ground Floor Retail
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/9413/untitledkk6.png



Marriott Residence Inn
15th and L Street
Developer: Three Fires, LLC
Architect: Johnson Braund Design Group
15 Stories, 150 Feet, 250 Hotel Rooms, 30 penthouse condos
http://www.jbdg.com/images/mri-sacramento_lrg.jpg


M.A.R.R.S (Midtown Art Retail & Restaurant Scene)
Developer: Mike Heller
20th street between K and J streets
Interior and exterior renovation including the addition of an expansive pedestrian walkway and plaza area spanning the full length of the building along 20th Street, as well as creative upgrades to the building exterior, lobby, and core areas. M.A.R.R.S. is a unique, daring, urban, artistic, funky project right in the heart of Sacramento's Midtown Arts & Entertainment District.
Tennents signed so far: Luigi's PIzza and The Solomon Dubnick Art Gallery
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/urban_encounter/mars-photo-a.jpg


Cathedral Building
12th and K Street Mall
http://www.thecathedralbuilding.com/
Developer: Bob Clippinger
Architect: FFA Design
4 story renovation to include 23 apartments, day spa and ground floor restaurant
http://www.thecathedralbuilding.com/assets/images/perspective4.jpg

18th and L Street
www.1801L.com
Developer: Sotiris Kolokotronis
Architect: Vrilakas Architects
5 Stories, 187 Rental Units, 10K Ground Floor Retail
http://img319.imageshack.us/img319/3816/untitledpw7.png

800 J Lofts
8th and J Street
Developer: CIM Group
Architect: LPA, Sacramento
www.800JLofts.com
7 Stories, 225 Loft Units 22K Ground Floor Retail
http://www.cityofsacramento.org/econdev/down/images/sites/1213_9th%20&%20J%202.04.jpg

St Anton Building:
21st and L Street
Developer: St Anton Partners
5 Stories, 65 Rental Units, 3K Ground Floor Retail
Completed: Spring 2006
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2728/img3834wc2.jpg

Fremont Mews
15th and P Street
118 Apartments and 22,000 sf community garden
Completed: Fall 2005
http://www.cadanet.org/images/large-corner-final.jpg
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/8527/untitled7fh1.png

East End Lofts I and II (aka O1 Lofts)
16th & J and 16th & K Street
O1 Communications Headquarters
32 Loft Units
17K Retail Space
Retail Tennents - Design Within Reach Studio, Bistro 33, Mikuni's Sushi and P.F. Changs
Completed: Winter 2005
http://www.ffadesign.com/projects/images/mix_16kelev02.jpg

Ping Yuen
5th and I - Historic Chinatown Building Rehab
82 Senior Rentals
Completed: Summer 2004
http://www.cityofsacramento.org/econdev/down/images/sites/1213_ping%20yuen.jpg

Wells Fargo Pavillion
15th and H
2,200-seat "Theatre in the Round" Performance Venue
Completed Summer 2003
http://www.meyersound.com/news/2003/music_circus/web/exterior.jpg
http://www.meyersound.com/news/2003/music_circus/web/theatre.jpg

Alchemy at R Street (http://www.newfaze.com/properties/alchemyAtR/alchemyAtR.php): 23rd and R Street - 23 Rental and For Sale Units, 1K Retail Space

Whiskey Hill Lofts: 22nd and S Street - 28 Rental Units

North End Lofts: 14th and C Street - 14 - 3 Story Townhomes

Washington Park Homes (http://www.liveatwashingtonpark.com/): 17th and D Street - 52 3-Story Townhomes

Cancelled

The Towers on Capital Mall
3rd and Capitol Mall
www.sactowers.com
Developer: Saca Development
Architect: Mulvanny G2
53-Stories 615 ft, 799 Condo Units, 65K Two Levels Retail
200 Room Intercontinental Hotel
10K The Spa at La Borgata
40K California Family Fitness
http://downtownsac.org/uploads/projects/saca_towers.jpg
http://img257.echo.cx/img257/4448/12ho.jpg


Library Lofts
9th and I Street
Developer: DR Horton
Architect: Mogavero Notestine Associates
21 Stories, 295 Condo Units, 30K Office, 5K Ground Floor Retail
http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/5105/sachorton6ao.jpg

Jibbom Street Tower
15 Story Condo Tower on Riverfront. Renovation of Historic PG&E Plant
Developer: DR Horton, Ken Faun
Architect: Mogavero Notestine Associates
http://www.sacbee.com/static/rich_content_images/180502-0216condo2.jpg

East End Gateway
16th and O SW - 21 For Sales Loft Units
16th and O NW - 32 Apartments
7 Live Work Townhomes on O Street
23,000 Square Feet Ground Floor Retail
Developer: Loftworks
Architect: FFA Design
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9415/untitledlp1.png

Aura Condos
6th and Capitol Mall
http://www.auracondos.com
Developer: BNC Development
Architect: Daniel Libeskind
39 Stories, 444 Feet, 262 Condo Units, 15K Ground Floor Retail
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8731/aura172qe.jpg

Capitol Grand Tower
12th and J Street
Developers: Mo Mohanna and California Medical Group
Architect: Nadel Architects Inc
Contractor: Tishman Construction
70 Stores, 965'-spire ; 771' - roofft
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/7900/wspirezk3.png


Epic Tower
www.epictower.com
12th and I Street
Developer: BNC Development
Architect: Daniel Libeskind
50-Stories ~650 Feet, 350 Condo, Office and Retail
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a343/enigma99a/epic_render.jpg

K Street Tower
8th and K Street Mall
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7564/1334/320/KStreet_1.jpg
2 - 300 Foot Buildings
Developer: John Saca, Mo Mohanna, John Lambeth
Architect: Kwan Henmi
Option 1)
Tower 1: 300 Loft Sytle Condos facing K and 8th Street
Tower 2: 300K Sqaure Feet Office Space facing L and 8th Street
17,730 Square Feet Ground Floor Retail
Option 2)
Tower 1 and 2: 600 Loft Sytle Condos
17,730 Square Feet Ground Floor Retail

East End Gateway Sites I
Developer: Lambert Developement
Architect: Carrier Johnson
Site I: 16th and N Street - 15 Stories, 122 Condos, Retail 5K
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3267/eeg13ti5.png

Grimnebulin
Mar 1, 2007, 3:21 AM
Nice work!

Perhaps add "The Citizen Hotel" to the name of the JDV hotel? Though I prefer just "The Citizen"...

urban_encounter
Mar 1, 2007, 3:43 AM
Since the other is going to get closed soon, time to start a new one

Let me know if I missed anything.

Riveredge
7 Towers (between 10 and 20 stories)
Along 14 acres of West Sacramento Waterfront
South of Tower Bridge and West Capitol Avenue
791 market residential units
104 affordable residential units
120k sf retail/commercial office space
200 room hotel
Developer/Architect Dean Unger and Associates
Status: Proposal/ financing not yet secured
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/urban_encounter/tower.jpg

urban_encounter
Mar 1, 2007, 4:50 AM
I was also noting that the California Transportation Commission is proposing to spend $1.1 billion dollars for Bay Area highway improvements compared to just over $237 million in Sacramento. (Haven't looked at the L.A. area which I suspect is disproportionally much larger than both)..

But doing the math....

5.9 million people in the greater SF/SJ MSA(s) receive $1.1 billion for transportation improvements

while

2.1 million people in Sacramento MSA receive $237 million....


Either Sacramento is getting taken to the cleaners by the California Transportation Commission or the SACOG isn't doing a very good job lobbying for transportation funds.

That's not to blame the bay area MTA, because they need transportation $$$ just as badly. But it does raise a question as to how state transportation dollars are distributed.

I really think at some point the State of California needs to disburse transportation dollars based on percentage of the states population and/or growth...


The decision from the California Transportation Commission is in....


The Sacramento Metropolitan Area (SACOG) today received $241 million for regional highway projects. However the State Transportation Commission denied Sacramento the additional $80 million it was seeking to build carpool lanes on I-80 from Longview Road to the Sacramento River.....


The California Transportation Commission decided to increase funding for the Bay Area Metropolitan Transportation Commission (from their ealier proposal) by $260 million for a total of $1.4 billion...

It works out good for the bay area and no doubt all of us who have driven in the bay area lately, know that they can definitely use any
additional money that they can get.

Unfortunately for Sacramento, it simply lacks the poltical muscle necessary to get a bigger (or at the very least; a proportional) piece
of the transportation pie.

It also explains why Cal Trans is trying to get the regional governments in Sacramento as well as local developers to
kick in more $$$ to pay for highway improvements.

SacTownKing916
Mar 1, 2007, 4:57 AM
Goog job. You might also want to update the size and picture of Capitol Grand Tower but everything else looks good.

foxmtbr
Mar 1, 2007, 5:01 AM
Great! Should the Capitol Grand rendering and height possibly be updated...?

sugit
Mar 1, 2007, 5:14 AM
Capitol Grand updated...

Jesus, we only got 241M?? Man, that blows.

While this does suck, I am really interested to see how much we get for the next round of financing that's for public transportion. We need to get a bigger chunk that.

I don't know much about what is planned out there, but I really want to see what the city is requesting and for what projects. I have to imagine the Intermodal and DNA are or should be up on the list.

foxmtbr
Mar 1, 2007, 5:54 AM
Alright, thanks for the update!

ltsmotorsport
Mar 1, 2007, 6:31 AM
List looks good. Can't believe how much is going on in Sactown. And we still have yet to hear solid plans for more res. buildings in midtown that are going to be 8 or more stories.

Oh, and here's the link to my picture thread from the old Sac construction thread.

view here (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=2658280#post2658280)

enigma99a
Mar 1, 2007, 6:46 AM
Why not just increase the height of capital grand 35' to pass 1000'?

ltsmotorsport
Mar 1, 2007, 6:53 AM
One step at a time. ;)

Majin
Mar 1, 2007, 7:25 AM
Why not increase the height to 10000'? It has just as good of chance of getting built at that height.

creamcityleo79
Mar 1, 2007, 7:51 AM
Why not increase the height to 10000'? It has just as good of chance of getting built at that height.
Seriously, 1000 ft would break that threshold that few cities are willing to break. As it is, you're probably going to hear it from the homeless about the shadow it's going to cast on Loaves and Fishes! :rolleyes: ;)

fatchocolatecow
Mar 1, 2007, 2:44 PM
Don't forget about Township 9 on Richards Blvd.

sugit
Mar 1, 2007, 5:35 PM
Why not increase the height to 10000'? It has just as good of chance of getting built at that height.

That chance being NO chance...

Don't forget about Township 9 on Richards Blvd.

Does anyone have any link, websites or info on this project?

Grimnebulin
Mar 1, 2007, 6:11 PM
That chance being NO chance...



Does anyone have any link, websites or info on this project?

Per Matrix newsletter...http://www.cityofsacramento.org/dsd/matrix/newsletter/documents/matrix-newsletter-2007-01.pdf - no pictures though.

An example of a Major Project is
Township 9 (formerly known as Capitol
Station 65), a 65 acre Major Project
located in the Richards Boulevard
area that is currently under review.
This innovative proposal consists of a
mix of 2,982 residential units (1,084
apartments, 1,717 condominiums, 16
live/work units, 164 town homes),
145,000 square feet of retail, and approximately
12.0± acres of open
space. The overall cost of the project
($50 million +) as well as its size and
diversity of land uses puts it squarely
in the Major Project category.

Also, they make mention of a Bacchus Wine Bar on Page 3 - perhaps that info was posted here already? I'd search the site but it's SO SLOW today - or is it just me? All my other sites load fine.

Bacchus Wine Bar: 1915 S Street
Changes are in the works for an existing
warehouse building at 1915 S
Street. The location, which currently
features 3,395 square feet of warehouse
space, has been approved
for a major rehabilitation. It was previously
used as a sound studio,
wholesale flower shop, and sewing
store before falling vacant and becoming
dilapidated over the years.
The existing building will be converted
into a wine retail store with
an adjoining 49 seat wine bar. The
exterior and interior overhaul will
enhance the surrounding neighborhood
by providing a sleek and modern
edge to the building.
The wine retail store promotes its
image as an upscale business
which focuses on the sale of quality
wines. Customers will have the opportunity
to learn about featured
wines and become a member of the
Bacchus Wine Club. The business
will also offer climate controlled wine
lockers to customers.

creamcityleo79
Mar 1, 2007, 7:07 PM
How dense will this project be? I tried to figure it out. But, it's too early for me! :)

TowerDistrict
Mar 1, 2007, 7:26 PM
It's amazing that such a massive project as Township 9 / Capitol Station 65 / North Town can proceed without any public documentation. I don't mean to sound like a NIMBY, but they could be building smurf village out there for all we know. The only imagery published was shown in that special section in Comstock's Biz Mag a several months ago. And even then - the majority of the renderings were shown in advertisements for contractors and developers. Here is the latest news found in a seemingly unrelated article in the Sac Biz Journal...

Habitat for Humanity finds a new home at Depot Park, for now
The nonprofit can afford the rent thanks to ReStore, which raked in $700K last year
Sacramento Business Journal - February 23, 2007
by Kelly Johnson, Staff Writer

After five years in the Richards Boulevard area, Sacramento Habitat for Humanity and its ReStore are moving to new digs.

The nonprofit is leaving its North 7th Street home, which will be demolished as part of a 65-acre development of homes, office, retail and open space. There it paid $3,000 a month, including utilities, for 45,000 square feet. Its landlord saved it an estimated half-million dollars in rent.

TowerDistrict
Mar 1, 2007, 8:08 PM
http://www.sacfrg.org/images/township9.jpg

as far as density goes, the numbers look great. if you subract the open space (12 acres) from the total area (65 acres) the residential / retail development areas should be around 56 units per acre.

innov8
Mar 1, 2007, 8:26 PM
All these photos were provided to me courtesy of "Snatester"

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Taken in the Woodland, CA. Plant

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October 2006

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November 2006

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January 2007

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February 2007

ltsmotorsport
Mar 1, 2007, 8:52 PM
Those are awesome! Hopefully we'll keep seeing shots like these through the months. Love the shot inside the Woodland plant; to bad it's not a full on steel mill though. Last I heard we haven't had a real steel mill in the Sacramento area for some time.

SacRising
Mar 1, 2007, 9:18 PM
I don't quite know where you would categorize this project, which is 'on hold', but the State of CA, West Side Project is not on the list.

http://www.westsideprojects.com

And while I'm on this doomsday path of bringing up dead projects, what about poor old Metro Place. Even though this has been dead for several years, and now has 225 flowers growing on its gravesite, it might still be a worthy mention of what could have been. And a worthy reminder of the pitfalls and risks of development.

innov8
Mar 1, 2007, 9:47 PM
The west side should be given an honorable mention. Their last workshop
was one year ago and nothing is planned for the rest of this year. Last time
I called to see what was going to happen next I was told the project has been
put on hold indefinitely. I have not seen anything about it in the upcoming
state budget either. I think its several years off before the wheels are rolling
with this one again.

TowerDistrict
Mar 1, 2007, 10:00 PM
I thought the cooling plant renovations were good to go? is that over budget as well?

reggiesquared
Mar 1, 2007, 10:20 PM
Speaking of R street. Looks like the SoCap lofts are officially under construction at 5th + 6th and R. Looks like they are moving fast even though its been pouring.

innov8
Mar 1, 2007, 10:26 PM
I thought the cooling plant renovations were good to go? is that over budget as well?

Last I heard it was frozen too. At least they got the EIR finished for both projects.

SacRising
Mar 1, 2007, 11:43 PM
If any of the local Sacramento area forumers are interested, there is an upcoming ULI Young Leaders Mixer at McCormick & Schmick's. I'm involved in the Urban Land Institute's Young Leader Group. It's for anyone involved with or interested in local land use issues (which all of you are) who are under age 35 (& it sounds like many of you fit that bill). This event is free to attend (buy your own drinks-sorry, no freeloaders), but other events do charge a reg. fee and usually provide food and drinks. Anyone of any age can join ULI, but you won't get the discounted dues unless you are a student or under 35. I've found it to be very informative and a great networking group.

Rather than creating a chain of responses, drop me a PM and I'll respond with the date and time. And yes, DTserge, you do need to be 21 to attend.

ltsmotorsport
Mar 2, 2007, 1:12 AM
Yeah, I think an "on hold" section should be made too. But the West Side and The Towers (temporarily until they start up again) in that section. :yes:

downtownserg89
Mar 2, 2007, 2:21 AM
dammit.

downtownserg89
Mar 2, 2007, 2:32 AM
Let me know if I missed anything.

umm, what about that alhambra and T street proposal? that tiny abandoned gas station site or whatever.

greenmidtown
Mar 2, 2007, 4:17 AM
I started my first picture thread in City Photos, I hope you guys can check it out and tell me what you think. I'm by no means a great photographer but I tried to capture the energy of Midtown and a little bit of downtown. I took a lot more pics than I posted and it was a painful process editing, I hope I did this city a little justice.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=2660726#post2660726

SactownRob
Mar 2, 2007, 5:18 AM
Anyone else feel that? 4.2 based in Lafayette. A gentle, slightly nerve-wracking sway up here on the 14th floor...

Majin
Mar 2, 2007, 5:47 AM
I'm downtown and I didnt feel anything.

brandon12
Mar 2, 2007, 6:22 AM
^Sactown Rob's Height exagerated the effect. In Sac, you'd probably have to be that high up to feel anything.

Trojan
Mar 2, 2007, 6:26 AM
Buying time

By Darrell Smith - Bee Staff Writer
Published 12:00 am PST Tuesday, February 27, 2007

Now on approach to Sacramento: a new outlet for Brooks Brothers, the longtime purveyor of buttoned-down style. But this new store won't be landing in any stylish downtown display window or in any suburban mall. Instead, the purveyor of fine suits and business attire will be opening in ... the airport.

Specifically, Terminal A at Sacramento International Airport.

It's part of the new frontier in retailing, as increasing numbers of upscale and big-name retailers -- from Swarovski to Harley-Davidson -- have set up shop in airport terminals.

Today, the nation's airports are looking decidedly more Rodeo Drive than runway: oxygen bars at Las Vegas' McCarran International, massage-and-facial spas at Pittsburgh International, Gucci and Sephora at San Francisco International.

It's a far cry from the airports of old, said Ann Ferraguto, principal of AirProjects Inc., an Alexandria, Va.-based airport concessions consulting group.

"You typically had a couple of cafeterias, news and gift stores and that was about it," Ferraguto said. "Now, there's specialty retail, different types of food. ... (It's) quadrupled from 20 years ago."

What's driving the upgrade? Retailing analyst George Whalin says it's the resurgence in travel as well as the captive market of affluent frequent fliers, whether they're headed for business or pleasure.

"You have captive consumers and things are beginning to settle down from 9/11," said Whalin, noting that airline passenger travel is up from nearly five years ago. And those passengers are not reluctant to spend money while idling in the airport. "There's the convenience of it all, particularly for hard-core travelers, (who are) often fairly affluent folks."

It's also due to what's called "dwell time" in the airport industry, those hours after the security check, before the flight or between connections when a passenger's options are to wait, work or spend time at the airport bar. And with increased airport security measures, passengers have to arrive earlier and wait longer.

"What airports are finding is that passengers ... have a lot more time on their hands," said Bobbi Passavanti, marketing director for The Paradies Shops, an Atlanta-based airport concession company that operates here and nationwide. "(Passengers) work or they wait. What other opportunities do they have? Shopping."

Pittsburgh International was an industry pioneer when it opened its so-called Airmall 15 years ago. Today, Pittsburgh has more than 100 shops and restaurants, including Johnston & Murphy men's clothiers, Nine West women's shoes and Victoria's Secret lingerie.

But lots of airports are now jumping aboard. And revenue is the reason, said AirProject's Ferraguto.

Terminal revenue -- retail, food and beverage -- made up just 19 percent of airports' non-aeronautical revenue in 2005, according to the Federal Aviation Administration. Parking and auto rentals were the top two revenue generators in that non-airline category.

Although precise numbers were unavailable, several recent airport insiders have noted the potential for growing airport revenues from non-aeronautical sources.

"(Airport) management, developers, concessions, they're realizing that a lot of money is being left on the table." Ferraguto said.

At airport hubs like Denver and Detroit, airport officials are betting that people want more shopping opportunities.

Denver International Airport is opening The Landings at DIA, a planned 500-acre village that will feature a 150- to 200-room hotel and about 60,000 square feet of retail space for airport passengers and employees alike. In Detroit, airport officials plan to open a 5-acre, $5 million shopping center that includes restaurants, a car wash and dry cleaner.

After getting the nod from the Sacramento County Board of Supervisors earlier this month, Paradies plans to open the 1,000-square-foot Brooks Brothers outlet in late summer or early fall, said airport spokeswoman Karen Doron. Paradies also plans to add another Travelmart convenience store in Terminal B at the same time.

The company, which operates 500 retail outlets and newsstands in 63 U.S. and Canadian airports, will spend an estimated $730,000 to renovate the two new stores and spruce up its existing specialty shops.

Among the other upscale entrants to Sacramento's airport was the recent arrival of Vino Volo, a wine tasting bar and store that's also been uncorked by Taste Inc. in Seattle and Washington, D.C. airports.

Paradies, which operates 16 other airport-based Brooks Brothers outlets through an exclusive agreement with the New York-based clothier, believes the time is right for a Brooks Brothers in Sacramento's airport. "The traffic's increasing, the demographics are changing," said Passavanti, who grew up in the Sacramento area. "It's creating some nice competition. Sacramento has really transformed."

The airport store is a separate entity from the Brooks Brothers outlet in Folsom.

At Sacramento International, where more than 10 million passengers go through the gates annually, concessionaires took in nearly $10.5 million in gross retail sales during fiscal year 2005-2006, according to the Sacramento County Airport System.

Brooks Brothers' arrival at Sacramento's airport appeals to David Topp."I'm always in favor of more Brooks Brothers," said Topp, who said he works in government affairs. He said it always seems odd to find well-known brands inside an airport, but it makes sense when "people spend so much time traveling."

In an effort to appeal to airport shoppers, retailers are going for brighter, more open designs; restaurants with an emphasis on local, regional cuisines and higher quality goods, said Charles Chambers, senior vice president for security and economic affairs at Airports Council International-North America, a Washington, D.C.-based advocate for large airports.

"We're seeing more high-end (airport stores)," Chambers said. "The demographics of the traveler have changed a lot. The business traveler is interested in quality."

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Just interesting that some high-class retail is in the airport and not even in the metropolitan area [except Folsom]. I wish more stores like this could come to downtown!

creamcityleo79
Mar 2, 2007, 6:29 AM
^Sactown Rob's Height exagerated the effect. In Sac, you'd probably have to be that high up to feel anything.
Well, that (hopefully) is a sensation you'll one day have, Brandon! :)

SactownRob
Mar 2, 2007, 6:35 AM
^Sactown Rob's Height exagerated the effect. In Sac, you'd probably have to be that high up to feel anything.

I think you're right Brandon. We felt the Santa Rosa quake up here last summer, but no one else I talked to did. One of the, um, joys, of highrise living, I guess....:uhh:

creamcityleo79
Mar 2, 2007, 6:51 AM
Does anyone know when the CTC is meeting to begin the process of allocating the tax money for mass transit?

creamcityleo79
Mar 2, 2007, 8:31 AM
DISGUSTING! DISGUSTING! DISGUSTING!

Vineyard to sprout homes
A large suburban community is taking shape gradually in the fields of southern Sacramento County
By Ed Fletcher - Bee Staff Writer

Published 12:00 am PST Friday, March 2, 2007
Story appeared in METRO section, Page B1
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Stuart Helfand walks his property in the largely rural Vineyard community, an area that mostly missed the last housing boom, in part because of infrastructure needs. Density remains an issue, but Helfand - a member of the local planning council since 1979 - says developers should stick to the community plan. Sacramento Bee/Lezlie Sterling


Cows -- not cars -- are more likely to be found on the properties surrounding the intersection of Excelsior and Florin roads in the unincorporated area south of Sacramento.

Sacramento County officials, however, have been slowly clearing the way for a vast new suburban community with more than 20,000 homes, along with new parks, schools and shopping centers.

In recent years, 3,000 suburban-style homes have joined the ranches and large lots that dominate the area known by the county as the Vineyard.

The Vineyard has been in the works for more than 20 years. The first land-use plan for the 37-square-mile area south of Highway 16 and north of Calvine Road was approved in 1985. More detailed plans followed.

Now, individual subdivision designs within Vineyard Springs and North Vineyard Station go before the Board of Supervisors almost weekly.

Plans for the property around those two areas, commonly referred to as "the gap," are still under environmental review.

Developers hold the rights to build thousands of homes on 11.2 square miles targeted for housing, provided that needed new roads, drainage systems and water requirements are met.

The area largely missed the last housing boom, partly because of infrastructure needs. That isn't likely to recur the next time the market heats up.

County officials said they can't say when those homes will materialize. Market forces will have a lot to say about that.

But the development's design and density are criticized by some who say the building pattern now taking shape reflects old neighborhood design, not today's standards.

Peter Detwiler, who teaches a graduate course on state land-use policies at California State University, Sacramento, sees the pattern of development as an opportunity lost.

"It's more of the car-oriented sprawl development. It probably represents 1980s thinking," Detwiler said. "A quarter century later we think differently about land use."

While the area will have a mix of housing sizes and types, several Vineyard subdivisions will offer more elbow room compared to other developments under construction and in the pipeline. Whether that is a good thing is debatable.

Some, such as Detwiler, say it doesn't make sense to build half-acre and 1-acre lots so close to the urban core.

Supervisor Roger Dickinson said he voted against the plans for Vineyard Springs and North Vineyard Station.

"Personally, I think we made some very serious mistakes in planning," said Dickinson.

He said the street pattern forces people to use major thoroughfares to reach stores, schools or other amenities.

The pattern of development almost guarantees the area will not be served by light rail, despite the fact that unused train tracks cut diagonally through the area.

Regional Transit's master plan calls for a light-rail line along the Central California Traction Railroad -- although more recent plans never identified money or set a timetable for the line.

Future extensions will be one of the questions on the table as RT embarks on an update of its master plan, said Mike Wiley, RT's deputy general manager.

Approved plans for the Vineyard call for three to five units an acre around the train tracks.

To support a light-rail stop, Wiley said, lots of residences should be within walking distance -- 30 to 50 units an acre.

Board Chairman Don Nottoli said he thought the rail corridor might be more suitable for a dedicated bus line or a walking trail, not light rail.

He added that while the board has been wrestling with density issues, all in all the project is turning out "pretty well."

Stuart Helfand, who raises fowl on 4 acres there, has been a member of the local planning advisory group since it was formed in 1979.

He said he wouldn't have a problem with developers building smaller town homes at higher densities but objects to developers asking to add more single-family homes to subdivisions already starved for green space.

He said the old guard wasn't thrilled about growth in the first place, and now that there is a plan in place, developers should stick to it.

"The developers are coming in and saying they want to change everything. They want more density and we are saying no," Helfand said.

He said the current zoning was designed to gradually decrease density so new homes could blend in with existing residences.

"The Vineyard has always been a rural area," said Helfand. "We don't want to be a Marconi or an El Camino avenue."
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Fusey
Mar 2, 2007, 9:49 AM
Geez... traffic is already hell enough from Watt to Sunrise. The Vineyards really makes me wonder if the politicians approving these building plans actually drive in the area on a day-to-day basis.

tuy
Mar 2, 2007, 4:08 PM
Looks like a lot going on. Hopefully we will have a Capitol Towers announcement today or tomorrow. I fly home tomorrow, so it will probably come before then.

goldcntry
Mar 2, 2007, 4:16 PM
Geez... traffic is already hell enough from Watt to Sunrise. The Vineyards really makes me wonder if the politicians approving these building plans actually drive in the area on a day-to-day basis.

I would have to mostly agree with you on that account. Then again, hopefully this will put some fire into spurring on the Grant Line Expressway/Freeway bypass connector. I just love how my little neighborhood (corner of Hedge and Jackson Hwy) and community (Rosemont) is ignored on the maps and hype.

Ah well.
:rant:

SacRising
Mar 2, 2007, 4:44 PM
Geez... traffic is already hell enough from Watt to Sunrise. The Vineyards really makes me wonder if the politicians approving these building plans actually drive in the area on a day-to-day basis.

Yeah, I agree this is more sprawlsville and traffic absolutely gets worse without a new 99-Grant Line-50 freeway. But look at it on a regional map and this part of the region makes more sense to me than Elk Grove pushing further south, or continued northern expansion along Hwy 65 to Lincoln, Wheatland, Linda or Hwy 99 to Plumas Lake, East Nicolaus. While I would love for the bulk of new housing to be the result of central city and inner-ring suburb re-densification, this area is among the better alternatives for outer suburban expansion.

ltsmotorsport
Mar 2, 2007, 6:42 PM
Yeah, you knew it was coming sooner or later, but I agree that it makes more sense than Elk Grove wanting to push out more and more. What I can't stand is the amount of single family homes they propose, without any large job centers near them is awful. There is no choice for the residences of these planned homes but to drives miles and miles from home-work-home each day.

Another thing I don't understand is with Anatolia and now these subdivsions, why Jackson Rd (Hwy 16) itself wasn't made a freeway/expressway. Now all those cars are going to be stuck on surface streets going nowhere, wasting more gas in the process. It's a huge distance between 50 and 99 to not have some kind of way into the central city.

The transportation "planning" for this region is mind boggling sometimes, but it also doesn't help that Sacramento keeps getting snubbed for transportation $.

creamcityleo79
Mar 2, 2007, 7:02 PM
I would have to mostly agree with you on that account. Then again, hopefully this will put some fire into spurring on the Grant Line Expressway/Freeway bypass connector. I just love how my little neighborhood (corner of Hedge and Jackson Hwy) and community (Rosemont) is ignored on the maps and hype.

Ah well.
:rant:
My mom lives in Rosemont, too!...and that's where I grew up. I don't know how it would happen. But, I really think Rosemont should incorporate...maybe with La Riviera and 95827 that's not Rancho Cordova. But, SOMEHOW! For too long the county has neglected Rosemont. How many years did it take them to do anything about Mayhew? I hope many other cities take Rancho's successes and start the incorporation process. I can't believe the county is even letting this project through. Think of the traffic on streets like Bradshaw and Mayhew for those living in Vineyard going to 50. Correct me if I'm wrong. According to the article, even Roger Dickinson sees that this development is archaic and not to scale with how the Sacramento Metropolitan area is going. It will be interesting to see if NIMBY's come out against the kind of low density development being built here. Now, THAT would be ironic...improbable...but, ironic if it did happen!

urban_encounter
Mar 2, 2007, 8:05 PM
Frontier starts Los Cabos flights from Sacramento
Sacramento Business Journal - 11:44 AM PST Friday, March 2, 2007
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Frontier Airlines on Saturday will start its three times per week non-stop flights from
Sacramento International Airport to Los Cabos, Mexico.

The Denver-based airline will offer 7:25 a.m. departures Tuesdays and Thursdays, and a 2:40 p.m.
flight on Saturdays from Sacramento to Los Cabos. The return flights from Los Cabos are 12:10 p.m.
Tuesdays and Thursdays, and an 11:40 a.m. Saturday flight.

Frontier has Airbus A319 jets for the service, with 24 channels of DIRECTV and pay-per-view
movies in every seat.

City officials and community leaders will hold a ribbon-cutting ceremony 2 p.m. Saturday for the
first flight that connects the state's capital to the resort town of Los Cabos.

San Jose also will start non-stop service to Los Cabos, with four flights per week scheduled.

Nawlijispower
Mar 3, 2007, 12:15 AM
Testing

TowerDistrict
Mar 3, 2007, 12:29 AM
you're good. ;)

TowerDistrict
Mar 3, 2007, 1:06 AM
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Delivering the depot
It will take much more than political muscle to pick up the historic depot and move it north
By Bob Moffitt - Sacramento News & Review 03.01.07

The city of Sacramento wants to move the historic depot in preparation for a new intermodal transit facility in the rail yards.

"It's doable," said senior engineer John Meyer of Simpson Gumpertz and Heger Inc. He thinks raising the 55,000-square-foot depot would be the biggest job his firm has ever done, and possibly the biggest ever in the United States. His San Francisco engineering firm contracted with the city of Sacramento for the schematic and seismic retrofit portions of the project. The firm has previously lifted San Francisco City Hall and the Salt Lake City and County Building as part of earthquake retrofits.

Before anything is moved, the building’s base has to be reinforced so that the depot can be removed from its foundation. That should take four months. Meyer’s firm--if it wins the city contract--then will lift the building 5 feet off the ground and lower it onto two hundred rollers that function almost like a bulldozer’s track. Meyer says one challenge will be finding enough rollers to do the job. “These are the kinds of rollers you use to move heavy presses in an industrial plant, and there will need to be a lot of them ... but we’ll get them.” Moving the depot 400 to 500 feet will take some time. Fifty-five thousand feet is a lot of building and, for obvious reasons, it must be kept level. The rollers move at the blistering pace of 5 and one-half inches per hour, meaning the building will arrive at its new foundation within a month of leaving the old one. It will take another month to lower it and attach it properly to its new foundation.

Moving the depot is possible, but is it necessary? There’s nothing wrong with the building or its current site (that a good cleaning and renovation wouldn’t cure). The city’s real problem is with the tracks that run west to east behind the building and then take a big left turn at 7th Street. Hinda Chandler, project engineer with the city of Sacramento, says the turn slows down Amtrak’s and Union Pacific’s rail operations and limits the length of trains that can run on the track. “What the railroads want to do is straighten that track, so that from the Sacramento River to 7th Street, it goes in a straighter diagonal. For the passenger terminal, we would like to bring the terminal where people get their tickets and their baggage and get ready for the trip and bring them close to the tracks, to keep that relationship.” Doing the railroad’s work for them probably will cost the city $12 to $15 million, plus $30 million for new roads and platforms, plus $13 million to move the building. That comes out to $58 million--all for a relationship between the tracks and the depot.

One relationship that’s become slightly strained is the one between the city and the developer, Thomas Enterprises. Thomas bought the rail-yards parcel from Union Pacific using money promised by the city. Mayor Heather Fargo says the city and Thomas are business partners, but she thinks Thomas should have negotiated a better deal. “Union Pacific should have moved their tracks. They could have done it. It would have been easy. ... It’s a little bit of a sore subject, because we had hoped that our partners in all of this would be stepping up a little more, but the reality is, we wanted to get this done badly.”

The mayor says the city will have $67 million from Measure A and Proposition 1A funds to spend on this first phase. But spending that money now leaves them short on funds for subsequent phases. All told, the mass-transit hub could top out at $300 million. Both Fargo and Chandler use the words “ideally,” “think” and “hope” when describing the hub’s future funding sources. Those are not words Meyer’s uses when describing how to lift a 55,000-square-foot building 5 feet off the ground.

sugit
Mar 3, 2007, 8:16 AM
Might be KB Homes (http://sacramento.bizjournals.com/sacramento/stories/2005/11/07/story4.html) through their new KB Urban division. The county really wants to get rid of that building, so you had to figure it was only a matter of time before someone jumped in.

Bob Shallit: Pinch hitter on deck for 21-story loft project (http://www.sacbee.com/103/story/131795.html)
By Bob Shallit - Bee Columnist

A "nationally known" developer soon could be stepping in to build a 21-story housing and office complex at a downtown site abandoned by Texas home builder D.R. Horton.

Sacramento County Supervisor Roger Dickinson confirms reports that talks are under way with another developer for the county-owned site at Eighth and I streets.

"Things are going quite well," he says of negotiations. "The hope is that within 30 days we can go back to the board and say we have an agreement, that we're back on track."

The project -- called Library Lofts -- got off track in September when Horton backed out of an agreement to buy the vacant building and replace it with a high-rise.

The new developer is looking to build "essentially the same project as Horton," Dickinson says.

The original plans called for about 300 condos, ground-floor retail and 40,000 square feet of office space, some of which would be occupied by county departments. The new plans call for "a little more office, a little less residential," says Dickinson.

The supervisor isn't revealing the identity of the new developer, but says it's a "nationally known company that already has a presence in the Sacramento area."

ltsmotorsport
Mar 3, 2007, 8:33 AM
Good to hear things are moving along with this, and really can't blame them for decreasing the # of housing units. I wonder if there will be any new renderings and if the design will be changed much.

foxmtbr
Mar 3, 2007, 8:37 AM
Wow, it's great to see someone picked up on the Library Lofts, that was one I really wanted to see go up! Let's hope this works out!

TowerDistrict
Mar 3, 2007, 10:38 AM
whoa! thought that one was dead for sure.

I'm thinking it's Pulte Homes...

urban_encounter
Mar 3, 2007, 5:51 PM
If you haven't yet seen the pictures that MJPhilly took of a West Sacramento sunset, you've have to take a peek. It's in the General Photography section... Stunning to say the least....


http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=126584

Phillip
Mar 3, 2007, 7:10 PM
Yes, MJPhilly's sunset photos ARE stunning. I watched that same sunset Wednesday night from a hotel window in Rancho Corodova. This pic is the Rancho version of his West Sac sunset. (This is also the first pic I've ever tried posting to the net. Hopefully it will work.) The building in the foreground is the long empty HomeBase store on Folsom at Sunrise.

http://www.msnusers.com/phsj0f3j57spehqq9u2m0eb7r1/files/Pictures%2FIMG_0057.JPG

urban_encounter
Mar 3, 2007, 7:42 PM
Phillip, nothing currently is showing up..

Phillip
Mar 3, 2007, 8:06 PM
That's weird, u_e....I can see the pic I posted. In fact I was going to apologize that the picture is so big!

foxmtbr
Mar 3, 2007, 8:09 PM
^ I don't see it either, but I get a pop-up prompting me to create a Windows .net passport. Perhaps you should host the photo somehwere else?

Phillip
Mar 3, 2007, 8:15 PM
Thanks, fxmtbr. This is all new to me. Just got my first digital camera a couple weeks ago, finally! :notacrook: Does anyone have suggestions where I should host pics? I picked MSN.com because that was the default choice on my laptop. Would another site be better? Or can I change settings at MSN.com so that my pic is viewable here?

Don't mean to turn this into a private tutorial. Send suggestions via private mail if you want.

foxmtbr
Mar 3, 2007, 8:20 PM
www.imageshack.us (http://www.imageshack.us) is my personal favorite. No account needed, you just upload pics.

urban_encounter
Mar 3, 2007, 8:23 PM
^ I don't see it either, but I get a pop-up prompting me to create a Windows .net passport. Perhaps you should host the photo somehwere else?


Yeah, so do I.....


:sly:

urban_encounter
Mar 3, 2007, 8:27 PM
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Delivering the depot
It will take much more than political muscle to pick up the historic depot and move it north
By Bob Moffitt - Sacramento News & Review 03.01.07

The city of Sacramento wants to move the historic depot in preparation for a new intermodal transit facility in the rail yards.

The mayor says the city will have $67 million from Measure A and Proposition 1A funds to spend on this first phase. But spending that money now leaves them short on funds for subsequent phases. All told, the mass-transit hub could top out at $300 million. Both Fargo and Chandler use the words “ideally,” “think” and “hope” when describing the hub’s future funding sources. Those are not words Meyer’s uses when describing how to lift a 55,000-square-foot building 5 feet off the ground.


City and County politicians need to begin a full court press on state representatives in Washington D.C. There's no better time than the present to start securing funds to do this. Especially with California Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi now serving as Speaker of the House...

Phillip
Mar 3, 2007, 8:49 PM
I'll take a look at imageshack, foxmtbr. Thanks. Before I saw your suggestion I moved the pic to Yahoo. I'll see if I can make the pic show up here from Yahoo. If not I give up for now. :( Anyhow there was a beautiful sunset in Rancho Cordova Wednesday night.

Trying again now....

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/phillippix/photo/294928804259591881/0

Phillip
Mar 3, 2007, 8:51 PM
That time the pic doesn't even show up for me! I give up for now.

Nawlijispower
Mar 3, 2007, 9:15 PM
Phillip, you can try photobucket.com

urban_encounter
Mar 3, 2007, 9:22 PM
see above... :D

uzi963
Mar 4, 2007, 2:19 AM
pictures from earlier this week.

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500cm foundation work

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ericm2031
Mar 4, 2007, 4:08 AM
can anyone give me the latest on Epic?

enigma99a
Mar 4, 2007, 8:53 AM
can anyone give me the latest on Epic?

First of all, AURA has to break ground, and then I think Nassi will start pushing Epic

Sacto
Mar 4, 2007, 3:10 PM
Thanks for the pics uzi963.

foxmtbr
Mar 4, 2007, 7:57 PM
Great update!

urban_encounter
Mar 4, 2007, 9:31 PM
500cm foundation work

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/uzi963/DSC00806.jpg

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/uzi963/DSC00803.jpg

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/uzi963/DSC00804.jpg


As a result of the non stop construction activity at 500 CM (such as) the retaining wall and site prep for the foundation, I requested that the 500 Capitol Mall thread to be moved to Construction forum (from the proposal)...
(it can now be found there)...

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=116260&page=6

Phillip
Mar 5, 2007, 12:15 AM
As a result of the non stop construction activity at 500 CM (such as) the retaining wall and site prep for the foundation, I requested that the 500 Capitol Mall thread to be moved to Construction forum (from the proposal)...
(it can now be found there)...

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=116260&page=6 Until I clicked that link I never realized Sacramento HAD Construction threads! For six months I've just been reading Proposal threads! OMG, 519 posts about SacTowers that I've never seen! :rolleyes:

urban_encounter
Mar 5, 2007, 12:33 AM
Until I clicked that link I never realized Sacramento HAD Construction threads! For six months I've just been reading Proposal threads! OMG, 519 posts about SacTowers that I've never seen! :rolleyes:

See the good stuff that you've been missing out on.....

;)

ltsmotorsport
Mar 5, 2007, 12:54 AM
Great updates, uzi. Hope to see more from ya.

doriankage
Mar 5, 2007, 1:08 AM
I grew up in Rosemont too. I lived on Rosewood Drive, right around the corner from Seqouia Elementary!
I miss living there, even though I hear bad things about it now.

creamcityleo79
Mar 5, 2007, 4:05 AM
I grew up in Rosemont too. I lived on Rosewood Drive, right around the corner from Seqouia Elementary!
I miss living there, even though I hear bad things about it now.
What bad things do you hear now? I think it's still a decent neighborhood.

doriankage
Mar 5, 2007, 5:51 AM
I've heard that crime has gotten bad. Then again crime is everywhere. But when someone tried to break into their house, that was the last straw. They moved in '96. I left in 1991 when I joined the military.

I've visted friends who still live there and it seems nice in the older area between Kiefer, folsom, watt and mayhew. Outside of that I've heard it is bad.
I could be wrong.
I personnaly think it's a great place to raise a family. Schools, parks, and sports. I played for Rosemont Soccer when I was a young one!
But neighborhoods change, especially when Mather closed. I had a lot of friends who were AF brats. Lots of officers and senior enlisted in Rosemont before it closed.

dcox20
Mar 5, 2007, 6:11 AM
I grew up on Americana Way, Rosemont...

right across from the park.

creamcityleo79
Mar 5, 2007, 8:11 AM
Caribou Ct here...my mom still lives there.

doriankage
Mar 5, 2007, 2:50 PM
I have a friend who still lives down the street from Einstein on Mirandy and family friends who live on Snowbird by the park.

doriankage
Mar 5, 2007, 3:12 PM
By Tony Bizjak - Bee Staff Writer

The city of Sacramento and Caltrans, the state highway department, are like bickering bunkmates:

Squabble. Make up. Go at it again.

The friction is over an increasingly vexing issue: How are people supposed to get in and out of downtown?

Daily, tens of thousands pour in, many on clogged freeways. Caltrans' job is to keep freeways moving. More and more of those freeways, like overwhelmed students, are getting F's during rush hour. Caltrans is proposing adding carpool lanes on Highway 50 from Sunrise Boulevard to Watt Avenue.

The project, for now, stops just short of enemy territory: Sacramento city limits.

Nevertheless, city officials recently sent Caltrans a 13-page letter -- a potential set-up for a lawsuit -- arguing the new lanes amount to a car dump on city streets.

"That project is not consistent with the city's goals," says Assistant City Manager Marty Hanneman.

What are the city's goals? That's complicated. City officials obviously are not anti-car. Most drive their own cars to work downtown.

But, City Hall has been struggling for years to do something about growing street traffic and a parking crunch. They could build more garages, but they say that only encourages more cars downtown.

Yet, at the same time, city leaders are eager to expand downtown to maintain its status as the vibrant economic and entertainment hub of the region.

The city is pushing plans to build whole new city blocks in the 200-plus-acre downtown railyard. And last week, officials enthusiastically gave developers the thumbs up to build another office tower on Capitol Mall for about 1,000 workers.

Caltrans was not so enthusiastic.

It filed a formal protest of the Capitol Mall project -- and by extension, other upcoming downtown projects, especially the railyard -- arguing the freeways are going to get socked with more commuters. State law requires the city to "mitigate" the impacts, Caltrans contended.

That led to some intense negotiations. Even Caltrans head Will Kempton got involved.

The state ultimately agreed last week to drop its challenge of the Capitol Mall project, but only after City Manager Ray Kerridge crafted a carefully worded statement acknowledging the city's responsibility "to address potential significant impacts to traffic including on the state highway system."

City and Caltrans officials shook hands and vowed to engage in more friendly discussions about how exactly to "address" downtown growth and its effect on traffic.

One possibility: Charging developers fees for transportation improvements.

Yet, the philosophical chasm between the two sides remains big.

The city has not dropped its opposition to Caltrans' planned Highway 50 carpool project.

You don't solve the traffic problem just by making more room for more cars, city leaders say.

Their approach: Build more housing downtown. Get more people on light rail and buses. Encourage carpooling. Discourage downtown and midtown drivers by making streets slower for cars and safer for pedestrians. They are even talking about a Sacramento-West Sacramento trolley line.

"That," says the city's Hanneman, "is what we see as a comprehensive system."

Agreed, says Caltrans' Wayne Lewis. But freeways will continue to be the biggest part of that system, he argues.

"Not everybody is going to be able to live around the corner from their job," he said.

At least they are talking. It's an important conversation.

goldcntry
Mar 5, 2007, 4:07 PM
Caribou Ct here...my mom still lives there.

Wow... lotta Rosemonties here! I'm in the "New-New" Rosemont.:haha:

aka The Beazers from Hell. As far as crime goes, we had a real bad spate of break-ins in the development... right up until we organized the entire development into a very successfull Neighborhood Watch. Where I see the most crime taking place (and see and hear the sherriff's copters flying around) is around the large, older lower-income apartment complexes fronting Keifer. Otherwise, it seems as if the over-all crime is about what it is everywhere else in the area.

fatchocolatecow
Mar 5, 2007, 5:29 PM
By Tony Bizjak - Bee Staff Writer

The city of Sacramento and Caltrans, the state highway department, are like bickering bunkmates:

Squabble. Make up. Go at it again.

The friction is over an increasingly vexing issue: How are people supposed to get in and out of downtown?

Daily, tens of thousands pour in, many on clogged freeways. Caltrans' job is to keep freeways moving. More and more of those freeways, like overwhelmed students, are getting F's during rush hour. Caltrans is proposing adding carpool lanes on Highway 50 from Sunrise Boulevard to Watt Avenue.

The project, for now, stops just short of enemy territory: Sacramento city limits.

Nevertheless, city officials recently sent Caltrans a 13-page letter -- a potential set-up for a lawsuit -- arguing the new lanes amount to a car dump on city streets.

"That project is not consistent with the city's goals," says Assistant City Manager Marty Hanneman.

What are the city's goals? That's complicated. City officials obviously are not anti-car. Most drive their own cars to work downtown.

But, City Hall has been struggling for years to do something about growing street traffic and a parking crunch. They could build more garages, but they say that only encourages more cars downtown.

Yet, at the same time, city leaders are eager to expand downtown to maintain its status as the vibrant economic and entertainment hub of the region.

The city is pushing plans to build whole new city blocks in the 200-plus-acre downtown railyard. And last week, officials enthusiastically gave developers the thumbs up to build another office tower on Capitol Mall for about 1,000 workers.

Caltrans was not so enthusiastic.

It filed a formal protest of the Capitol Mall project -- and by extension, other upcoming downtown projects, especially the railyard -- arguing the freeways are going to get socked with more commuters. State law requires the city to "mitigate" the impacts, Caltrans contended.

That led to some intense negotiations. Even Caltrans head Will Kempton got involved.

The state ultimately agreed last week to drop its challenge of the Capitol Mall project, but only after City Manager Ray Kerridge crafted a carefully worded statement acknowledging the city's responsibility "to address potential significant impacts to traffic including on the state highway system."

City and Caltrans officials shook hands and vowed to engage in more friendly discussions about how exactly to "address" downtown growth and its effect on traffic.

One possibility: Charging developers fees for transportation improvements.

Yet, the philosophical chasm between the two sides remains big.

The city has not dropped its opposition to Caltrans' planned Highway 50 carpool project.

You don't solve the traffic problem just by making more room for more cars, city leaders say.

Their approach: Build more housing downtown. Get more people on light rail and buses. Encourage carpooling. Discourage downtown and midtown drivers by making streets slower for cars and safer for pedestrians. They are even talking about a Sacramento-West Sacramento trolley line.

"That," says the city's Hanneman, "is what we see as a comprehensive system."

Agreed, says Caltrans' Wayne Lewis. But freeways will continue to be the biggest part of that system, he argues.

"Not everybody is going to be able to live around the corner from their job," he said.
At least they are talking. It's an important conversation.


It is certainly true that not everyone can live around the corner from their job, but if you don't make freeways the easiest and most convenient way to get around, more people just might move closer to work or find a different mode of transportation. Until traffic and commute times get bad enough, the majority of people will continue to choose the convenience of driving. If Caltrans just keeps building more and more freeway lanes (even if they are carpool), the population will have no reason to choose moving closer to where they work or taking mass transit.

Unfortunately, Caltrans is probably only interested in serving their own purposes and maintaining the status quo. Even though they are a state entity, make no mistake, they are still a business that is trying to protect their interests.

doriankage
Mar 5, 2007, 6:14 PM
Yeah, I grew up in old Rosemont. I remember when Manlove connected to Folsom and there was no S. Watt. When they were building it in the80's, my friends and I would ride our bikes in there.

I would have to agree with you about the low rent apartments facing Kiefer. Again, they weren't that bad bak in the 80's.
Did you all go to Einstein and then Johnson or Sac? I went to Johnson graduating in '90 BEFORE it slid downhill....bad!

creamcityleo79
Mar 5, 2007, 11:15 PM
Looks like we have some like-minded folks manning the editorial column of the Bee!
Editorial: Caltrans vs. downtown
Does battle loom over busy Interstate 5?Published 12:00 am PST Monday, March 5, 2007
Story appeared in EDITORIALS section, Page B4

Interstate 5 is the primary artery of the West as it connects San Diego with Seattle. Its crushing truck traffic is partially the result of free trade with China, which sends its goods in cargo containers to California ports.

Everyone on the interstate has a different reason for being there. Some are on long hauls from San Diego to Seattle, some on daily commutes to cities along the route or even to the Bay area via connector highways.

So it's a little peculiar that the state transportation agency, Caltrans, seems to have gotten disproportionately interested in the redevelopment under way in downtown Sacramento, worried about its impact on the interstate. Hmm. Should we stop redevelopment down in Los Angeles as well?

The local project is known as 500 Capitol Mall. The careful reader may remember this office project as the one that proposed to put a miniature Greek Parthenon structure at the top of the tower. The Parthenon got nixed in the approval process. What the Sacramento City Council approved the other day was a more standard 24-story office building.

The approval process was slowed, however, by late concerns by Caltrans. "Interstate 5 is already at capacity," official Jody Jones explained. The agency wants to coordinate with the city on plans to add more high-rises downtown and to redevelop the dormant railyards.

Coordination is fine. And frankly, so is Caltrans' commenting on large new development projects that have real impacts on the regional roadway system that the local government is trying its darndest to overlook. But this office project is within walking distance of light rail, the train depot, numerous bus lines and a growing stock of downtown housing. Nonetheless, the developer of 500 Capitol Mall, Tsakopoulos Investments, agreed to pay $75,000 to Caltrans to help install metering lights on the interstate from I Street.

But if Caltrans somehow thinks it is doing the region's transportation system a favor by worrying about rejuvenation downtown, it should think again. Nothing could be worse for traffic and air quality than delaying downtown redevelopment.

The more this region builds homes closer to jobs, the less commuters will rely on freeways. Adding thousands of residences and new office space in the downtown will do more to help I-5 than to hurt it.

If the alternative is to build the housing in Yuba and Placer counties, and have all those folks drive to downtown, will Caltrans be worried about that, too? Where is Caltrans in that debate up in Yolo County about building a brand new commuter city in Dunnigan (on I-5 as well)? Or the debate about Elk Grove's look at expanding southward? And don't forget about Stockton.

Given the challenges of the real estate marketplace, limited redevelopment funds and a quirky set of landowners, rejuvenating downtown Sacramento will be tricky as it is. If downtown doesn't live up to its full potential, I-5 will be far more of a long-distance commuting nightmare than if downtown succeeds. Caltrans should be challenging large office and housing projects that are too dependent on the automobile and instead championing growth within urban, high-transit areas.

Nawlijispower
Mar 6, 2007, 12:49 AM
I went to Johnson C/O '99. Sorry, not trying to make you feel old or anything
Yeah, I grew up in old Rosemont. I remember when Manlove connected to Folsom and there was no S. Watt. When they were building it in the80's, my friends and I would ride our bikes in there.

I would have to agree with you about the low rent apartments facing Kiefer. Again, they weren't that bad bak in the 80's.
Did you all go to Einstein and then Johnson or Sac? I went to Johnson graduating in '90 BEFORE it slid downhill....bad!

creamcityleo79
Mar 6, 2007, 12:50 AM
Capital Christian High School c/o '96 here. But, I graduated at 16. So, I'm not as old as my graduating year would imply. I'm 27!

doriankage
Mar 6, 2007, 1:39 AM
No worries about making me feel old!!!
At least we graduated from the same school!!! Otherwise, I would've had to drive up on the crowded 5 freeway to kick your ass! :)

I almost went to Capitol Christian. My girlfiend at the time went there.

bennywah
Mar 6, 2007, 2:10 AM
lol, wow this has been a slow week for construction news when were dragging out what high schools we went too, but what the hell, I went to Laguna Creek High school in sprawltacular laguna creek/elk grove. I was part of the first 4 year graduating class there in 98, and now next year is the 10 yr reunion oy I feel old now.

colemonkee
Mar 6, 2007, 3:11 AM
Man, this is all too weird. I grew up in Rosemont as well, attended both Capitol Christian (until 4th grade) and Golden Empire Elementary (across Kiefer Blvd. from Sequoia, go Eagles!!!). Then I moved to Vintage Park and attended Joseph Kerr in Elk Grove. And Bennywah, I was a freshman when the very first graduating class attended Florin High School, which was brand new at the time (I ended up moving to Portland, so I didn't graduate from there).

I too remember that area pre-South Watt. Manlove was a straight shot to Folsom, and Watt kind of just ended at Folsom, if I remember right. My dad still lives in the same house just east of S. Watt. You guys are bringing back the memories...

creamcityleo79
Mar 6, 2007, 3:18 AM
I had no idea about the whole Manlove/S. Watt thing. That's crazy! We moved into Rosemont in 1991 from South Sac. So, all the road stuff must've happened before we moved in.

creamcityleo79
Mar 6, 2007, 3:22 AM
Man, this is all too weird. I grew up in Rosemont as well, attended both Capitol Christian (until 4th grade) and Golden Empire Elementary (across Kiefer Blvd. from Sequoia, go Eagles!!!). Then I moved to Vintage Park and attended Joseph Kerr in Elk Grove. And Bennywah, I was a freshman when the very first graduating class attended Florin High School, which was brand new at the time (I ended up moving to Portland, so I didn't graduate from there).

I too remember that area pre-South Watt. Manlove was a straight shot to Folsom, and Watt kind of just ended at Folsom, if I remember right. My dad still lives in the same house just east of S. Watt. You guys are bringing back the memories...

What years did you go to Capital Christian?

colemonkee
Mar 6, 2007, 3:26 AM
Oh, man that was a long, long time ago. Let's see, I think '82-86? I graduated high school class of '95, so that sounds about right.

greenmidtown
Mar 6, 2007, 4:17 AM
Looks like we have some like-minded folks manning the editorial column of the Bee!

Good editorial. I'm glad Caltrans backed down for the most part. I'm not implying we made any difference but it certainly helped the City's position that Caltrans was bombarded with angry emails when they tried to blackmail.

downtownserg89
Mar 6, 2007, 5:10 AM
howdy y'all.

okay so it was such a nice day today i went bike riding, and i brought my camera with me, and well i thought i'd update you guys on certain003 projects around town, so here ya go:

here's the 8th & K site
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b149/dirtychimp182/sergpix043.jpg

621CM looking sexy.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b149/dirtychimp182/sergpix017.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b149/dirtychimp182/sergpix040.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b149/dirtychimp182/sergpix036.jpg

globe mills making progress
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b149/dirtychimp182/sergpix032.jpg

that building getting renovated at 12th & F
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b149/dirtychimp182/sergpix029.jpg

some project at 14th & C st.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b149/dirtychimp182/sergpix034.jpg

is there any word on the status of this proposed building?
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b149/dirtychimp182/sergpix044.jpg

MAARS project, lookin' cute.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b149/dirtychimp182/sergpix028.jpg

tower bridge.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b149/dirtychimp182/sergpix039.jpg

the FACES soon to be swimming pool/dance floor.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b149/dirtychimp182/sergpix027.jpg

you could walk on the sidewalk in front of the Marriot now!
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b149/dirtychimp182/sergpix042.jpg

ew this building on 12th between D and C street could be nicely rennovated.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b149/dirtychimp182/sergpix031.jpg

and of course..
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b149/dirtychimp182/sergpix022.jpg


alright i'm done :cool:

foxmtbr
Mar 6, 2007, 5:23 AM
Thanks for the update! :tup:

uzi963
Mar 6, 2007, 5:52 AM
i went by the calSTRS site on cap corridor this morning and noticed that they have the base of the crane put in. anyone know the schedule for when we'll see that building start rising out of the ground?

tuy
Mar 6, 2007, 6:21 AM
OK, I am back in the country and the Towers news did not come while I was gone. However, we did get the Library Lofts news.

joninsac
Mar 6, 2007, 6:42 AM
Here's a good look at one of those buried storefronts from when downtown was raised (Thanks, Serg)-
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b149/dirtychimp182/sergpix043.jpg