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Bergenser
Apr 8, 2006, 7:54 PM
here you can see how high it will be to the other supertall`s in Dubai:
http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2006/diagram/tallest-towers-in-dubai.jpg

Dubai :rock:

jamesinclair
Apr 9, 2006, 3:24 AM
This has probably been asked...but what does "Burj" mean?

Acco
Apr 9, 2006, 3:28 AM
Burj means Tower soo Burj Dubai - Tower of Dubai

BrandonJXN
Apr 9, 2006, 4:46 AM
Al Burj is taller than Burj Dubai.

malec
Apr 9, 2006, 10:32 AM
^^ Mayve, maybe not. It's ages before it'll start construction so it mightn't even get built

John Hinds
Apr 9, 2006, 9:52 PM
I was in the SOM London offices today and they had a new model of the Burj Dubai.

I only got a quick look at it but it looked like it only had around 150 floors. Nothing like the crazy 200 floor figures that have been doing the rounds.
And the spire looked pretty short so i'm not sure how it's going to be the 800m+ that they are claiming.

malec
Apr 9, 2006, 10:09 PM
I don't believe the crazy 200F figures anyway. Are you sure it was a new model? We know Adrian Smith increased the height of the spire since he thought it didn't finish properly. This is shown in the latest render anyway, (which btw has also replaced an older one on the signboard).

Here are the latest pics from today:

http://img423.imageshack.us/img423/2071/p1020238p0dw.th.jpg (http://img423.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1020238p0dw.jpg)

http://img436.imageshack.us/img436/2811/p1020255p1hu.th.jpg (http://img436.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1020255p1hu.jpg)

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/4109/p1020262p3zi.th.jpg (http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1020262p3zi.jpg)

http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/1548/p1020264p3it.th.jpg (http://img333.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1020264p3it.jpg)


DUBAI MALL nearby:
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1953/p1020288p9yl.th.jpg (http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1020288p9yl.jpg)



http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/6476/p10202568ll.th.jpg (http://img440.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p10202568ll.jpg)

http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/6852/p1020257p4cv.th.jpg (http://img317.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1020257p4cv.jpg)

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2100/p1020270p2lx.th.jpg (http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1020270p2lx.jpg)

http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/1886/p1020286p5md.th.jpg (http://img348.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1020286p5md.jpg)


http://img429.imageshack.us/img429/3058/p1020289p9ma.th.jpg (http://img429.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1020289p9ma.jpg)

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/4237/p1020258p8uv.th.jpg (http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1020258p8uv.jpg)

http://img423.imageshack.us/img423/1003/p1020290p4vp.th.jpg (http://img423.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1020290p4vp.jpg)

http://img450.imageshack.us/img450/2965/p1020291p6yh.th.jpg (http://img450.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1020291p6yh.jpg)

WonderlandPark
Apr 10, 2006, 12:39 AM
I count about 38 levels, 1/4 done, and it already looks huge!

JACKinBeantown
Apr 10, 2006, 2:35 AM
I count 39. Either way, it's starting to get up there.

Bergenser
Apr 10, 2006, 10:00 AM
I really like the building now, but what are the yelow things?? :???:

John Hinds
Apr 10, 2006, 11:57 AM
You can see one of the first setbacks has topped out.

nezzybaby
Apr 10, 2006, 1:18 PM
You can see one of the first setbacks has topped out.

Almost, we now know where the first setback will be, but where there is currently no construction, there will be nose cones similar to those rising up each side at the moment. when the nose cones at the side are at this level, they will stop, and we will have the first setback topped out

Slugbelch
Apr 10, 2006, 3:45 PM
^Yep. Now we see how they do it. Just extend the length of 2 maintenance levels.
http://img322.imageshack.us/img322/5896/14cu.jpg
Also notice the square,white markers.

Chicago103
Apr 11, 2006, 9:55 PM
Approximatly when do you think it will surpass the Sears Tower in height?

malec
Apr 11, 2006, 11:01 PM
a year and a half maybe?

Bergenser
Apr 13, 2006, 7:45 AM
Orginally posted by malec
a year and a half maybe?

wow, thats great :) can`t wait to this growing.....

Fabb
Apr 13, 2006, 1:09 PM
a year and a half maybe?

My bet is fifteen month. That's 63 weeks. Should be enough for another 100 floors or so.

Crazy Ivan
Apr 14, 2006, 1:11 AM
Somebody told me once that the type of sand found in the deserts of Arab countries is not suitable for concrete. Is that true? If so, where does the sand come from for the Burj?

malec
Apr 14, 2006, 11:35 AM
Today: By Imre from SSC,


http://i2.tinypic.com/vfi1hx.jpg

http://i2.tinypic.com/vfi1ol.jpg

http://i2.tinypic.com/vfi234.jpg

http://i2.tinypic.com/vfi2c5.jpg

http://i2.tinypic.com/vfi2jp.jpg

http://i2.tinypic.com/vfi41w.jpg

Fabb
Apr 14, 2006, 12:28 PM
With the cranes pointing upward, it nicely looks vertical already.

Lee J Buividas
Apr 14, 2006, 1:03 PM
The bad thing is the roof top of the shopping mall sucks. So looking down at it that massive roof is not that great of a view. What they should do is build some kind of roof garden on top of the mall. One thing you shouild learn about designing a highrise is the view straight down is also very important and the top of roofs can make it look as bad as looking down on the slums.

Lee J Buividas

Lee J Buividas
Apr 14, 2006, 1:04 PM
double post

malec
Apr 14, 2006, 1:30 PM
That would be great actually. Pity they didn't do that :(

Slugbelch
Apr 14, 2006, 1:36 PM
The core is getting very close to the next maintenance level. If the formwork for the core slows down, then the formworks is being changed to mold the bigger-than-normal levels (38 & 39 ,or 38-40:shrug: )

Also, the next setback should be happenning soon as well.

Slugbelch
Apr 14, 2006, 2:25 PM
4/15/06:
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/3751/bdcurrentlarge6zl.jpg

Not only is this a reminder that it's tax time, but also one year ago:

Burj Dubai Begins To Rise
Sunday, April 17, 2005
Dubai

Burj Dubai, Emaar Properties' iconic building, started its ascent yesterday (April 16) following the pouring for the sheer walls of the core which will hold the superstructure of the world's tallest tower.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/511/23xx2.jpg

''This is a very significant moment in the construction of Burj Dubai,'' said Issam Galadari, executive director, International Projects, Emaar. "Over the next couple of years, Burj Dubai will rise one floor every week and people driving along Sheikh Zayed road will be able to witness its progress," he said.

East Van
Apr 14, 2006, 9:00 PM
how many floors below the surface does it go ?

Daquan13
Apr 14, 2006, 9:09 PM
Had my taxes done yesterday.

How high is it now?

Slugbelch
Apr 14, 2006, 9:37 PM
how many floors below the surface does it go ?
5
How high is it now?
Approx. 490-492ft.

malec
Apr 14, 2006, 9:48 PM
It has reached the 40th floor

malec
Apr 14, 2006, 10:11 PM
An article in gulfnews, mostly bullshit though and nothing new.

http://gulfnews.com/business/Business_Feature/10033123.html



Construction of the tower, which this week has reached 40th floor, is "over 20 per cent of the total habitable floors". In simple arithmetic it means the tower could rise to a mammoth 200-floor level dwarfing all other developments in the world, and nearly doubling the Sears Tower in terms housing the highest habitable floor.

More confusion :|
I'm still sticking to the 160 figure. Floor number 160 will be the highest useable floor so there will have to be a few mechanical floors after that.


Another article:

http://gulfnews.com/business/Business_Feature/10033124.html



A few wee diagrams by me:

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2303/burj17jm.jpg

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8205/burj24ro.jpg

Michi
Apr 14, 2006, 10:51 PM
That's just nasty! :tup:

Lecom
Apr 15, 2006, 12:27 AM
^Yep. Now we see how they do it. Just extend the length of 2 maintenance levels.
http://img322.imageshack.us/img322/5896/14cu.jpg

Looks like they fired their regular Blue Man Group, probably after the protests or something ;)

Slugbelch
Apr 15, 2006, 4:17 AM
Another article from the local newspapers with skyscraper detail:

Burj Dubai to begin rising on April 15
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5935/19uw.png
Present on the occasion were Emaar Properties' executives Greg Sang, senior manager, projects; Mark Amirault, senior director, International Development; and Fred Durie, senior director, projects.

Burj Dubai, the world's tallest man-made structure, will rise above the ground when Samsung Corporation formally begins to build the tower on April 15, officials said.

"A 3.7-metre-thick rough slab covering an area of 80,000 square feet forms the base of the Burj Dubai structure. Its foundation has been completed in a record 12 months' time, at a cost of Dh54 million," said Robert Booth, Emaar Properties' executive director.

He said 60 per cent of the Dh73 billion Burj Dubai and Old Town's contracts have been awarded.

Emaar last year selected Samsung to build the tower for $900 million (Dh3.285 billion). The project is set for completion in 2008.

The tower's 192 piles stretch to depths of more than 50 metres and are bound together by the rough slab, encompassing the tower's entire footprint.

Nearly 18,000 cubic metres of concrete was poured for the tower piles and 15,000 cubic metres of concrete was used for the podium piles. The slab, in addition, is made up of 12,300 cubic metres of concrete. The total concrete poured into the foundation exceeds 45,000 cubic metres, weighing more than 110,000 tonnes.

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1050/bd1yearapril158vg.jpg

Burj Dubai will house a hotel, furnished apartments and over 600 unfurnished apartments which will take up the space between ground level and the 112th level. "From the 112th level onwards, the tower will host the executive offices of the world's top global corporations," Booth said.

The tower's height has been a well-kept secret, due to the competition around the world. The construction plan is being structured in a way that the developers can change the height of the tower at any given time, to a certain extent.
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45 levels in one year (40+5 underground) including 1 maintenance section (3 larger levels on floor 16-18)

John Hinds
Apr 15, 2006, 4:29 AM
Since when has it got underground floors? Are they going to bury the bottom 5 floors?

The foundation slab they are building on has no floors below it.

Slugbelch
Apr 15, 2006, 4:35 AM
^ By underground, I mean the first floor on the slab is -5. When the building is completed, these floors will be underground. On the forumers pics, the floor that is painted "01" is not at foundation slab level.

WonderlandPark
Apr 15, 2006, 5:22 AM
Burj Dubai will house a hotel, furnished apartments and over 600 unfurnished apartments which will take up the space between ground level and the 112th level. "From the 112th level onwards, the tower will host the executive offices of the world's top global corporations," Booth said.


That is different. Most multi-use towers built to high levels have been office on LOW floors and residential on high levels. Top floors of the project will be office?

Fabb
Apr 15, 2006, 6:04 AM
That is different. Most multi-use towers built to high levels have been office on LOW floors and residential on high levels. Top floors of the project will be office?

That doesn't make much sense. Top floors will have a very small area. Maybe they'll just host pretended officies to provide a prestigious address to a few companies.

malec
Apr 15, 2006, 10:17 AM
^^ That's right it makes no sense at all. They're putting a hotel on the bottom 35 or so floors, res next and office for the top. If I was booking into a hotel in the tallest tower in the world I'd be pretty pissed off to find myself 10 metres off the ground!

The tower does have underground floors. Look at this old picture, the ground floor is the first really large one, the ones below are Q - (x).

http://tinypic.com/io20pg.jpg

Bergenser
Apr 15, 2006, 12:36 PM
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2303/burj17jm.jpg


---- wow ---- they stil have a LONG way to go :D

Slugbelch
Apr 15, 2006, 1:02 PM
That doesn't make much sense. Top floors will have a very small area. Maybe they'll just host pretended officies to provide a prestigious address to a few companies.

IMO partially true, the very top will be executive offices. Executives don't need much space. They just need a phone and a laptop hookup. These will be some of the most sought after office spaces in the world. So only the biggest of the big executives will own an office space to show off their clients who visit.

It would be interesting as to what companies has already bought office space on the top levels. Once you get some companies names, then you can bet the CEO's and assistants of each will have an office(s). The way they get built, maybe some will buy two and make them into one office.

My bet is that Emaar has the top 10 or 20 floors

malec
Apr 15, 2006, 1:44 PM
It works out at exactly half a mile from that render. Emaar have reserved a few floors for themselves alright. We know that everything to around the 110th floor has been sold, either as apartments or for the hotel at the bottom. We don't know who the tenants will be for the office space though

Patrick
Apr 15, 2006, 11:13 PM
wow its already pretty tall, go Dubai!

malec
Apr 15, 2006, 11:23 PM
And some more bullshit from the newspapers,


Burj Dubai to go up to 200 floors

By Saifur Rahman, Business News Editor

http://www.gulfnews.com/business/Real_Estate_Property/10033416.html

Dubai: The world's tallest tower, Burj Dubai, is slated to go as high as 200 floors, a company official revealed. "It has reached floor No 40. It is over 20 per cent of the total habitable floors," Abdullah M. Bin Lahej, Director of Construction for Emaar Properties, developer of the tower, told Gulf News.

This translates into nearly 200 habitable floors, dwarfing all other man-made structures and nearly double the height of the 442-metre Sears Tower in Chicago, which has the highest habitable floor at the 108th.

This means the building's height, which remains a well-kept secret, could go well beyond the estimated 750 metres if calculated on the standard height of an average floor.

Construction of the tower's superstructure, which began on April 15 last year, has reached the 40th floor, at a rate of more than nine days per floor.

This time-frame is expected to fall significantly as the higher the building goes, the narrower it becomes, thus reducing the amount of work per floor.

Bin Lahej said major components of the tower have already been sold out.






This whole height kept secret thing is working wonders as a marketing trick

STR
Apr 16, 2006, 4:03 AM
Been working on a BD model. It is depicted at 808 meters or 2,650 feet. This is just the first draft. I'm going to tweak the setbacks and add detail in the future.

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1150/demo20oe.th.jpg (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=demo20oe.jpg) http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/4520/demo10wz.th.jpg (http://img112.imageshack.us/my.php?image=demo10wz.jpg)

Sacto
Apr 16, 2006, 4:12 AM
I'm still amazed at the amount of counstruction going on in Dubai.

STR
Apr 16, 2006, 6:35 AM
A few of Adrian Smith's best towers
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/8851/as1.jpg http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/3158/as2.jpg http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/7295/as3.jpg

2D
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/6105/dg.png

malec
Apr 16, 2006, 9:29 AM
Wow, great work there. It really does resemble Wright's mile high tower

Bergenser
Apr 16, 2006, 5:10 PM
wow those models are great! :D

STR
Apr 16, 2006, 6:02 PM
Wow, great work there. It really does resemble Wright's mile high tower

No it doesn't. The Illinois was basically a giant pyramid. Aside from general proportions, they have nothing in common design-wise.

malec
Apr 16, 2006, 6:18 PM
^^ I just meant the general outline, it has a similar sort of spire.

Anyway, I think in this pic of the taller version, the proportions shown are perfect. They shouldn't go too high with this thing since it would just ruin it:

http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2005/renders/new-burj-design.jpg

STR
Apr 16, 2006, 10:53 PM
2,650ft (808M) Burj Dubai at 1m per pixel scale which is equal to ssp.
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/8696/1-1bd.png

Burj Dubai compared to cancelled Chicago World Trade Center ans Sears Tower.
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/5662/bdcwtc.jpg

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/5358/bd0.jpg http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/6769/bd1.jpg http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/4909/bd2.jpg http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/7426/bd3.jpg

Pandemonious
Apr 16, 2006, 10:57 PM
WOW. Awesome models STR. I can't wait to see how this building looks when it is completed.

Pandemonious
Apr 16, 2006, 11:03 PM
"The 500-acre Burj Dubai development which will encompass the Burj Dubai Tower will be larger than the down towns of New York or London. The entire neighbourhood will host more than 35,000 residents."

Read this on the first page. Thats a big claim that I don't buy. What are they defining as downtown? 35,000 residents isn't that many.

STR
Apr 16, 2006, 11:12 PM
WOW. Awesome models STR.

Thanks.

"The 500-acre Burj Dubai development which will encompass the Burj Dubai Tower will be larger than the down towns of New York or London. The entire neighbourhood will host more than 35,000 residents."

Read this on the first page. Thats a big claim that I don't buy. What are they defining as downtown? 35,000 residents isn't that many.

I think they're ranking by acreage, which includes the quarter mile diameter lake smack in the middle. It's just the usual Dubai blustering.

Lecom
Apr 16, 2006, 11:53 PM
Yea really, great models.

malec
Apr 16, 2006, 11:58 PM
Would love to stand in front of it like that :D

Have a good week all, am off to Chicago in 4 hours and need some sleep :D

Patrick
Apr 17, 2006, 4:53 AM
Wow I didnt know it was that tall against the Sears Tower....

STR
Apr 17, 2006, 5:14 AM
^Odd thing is that while it'll be much taller, Sears will have over a third more floorspace than the Dubai Tower.

Daquan13
Apr 17, 2006, 5:17 AM
Sadly, NOTHING in this country will trounce the Burj Dubai.

Simply because America can't build anything over 2,000 ft.

STR
Apr 17, 2006, 5:19 AM
Yes they can. The FAA really can't stop anyone legally from building taller. They have no authority to do so. In effect, FAA section 61.76 (I believe that's the number) is not really binding to anyone not affiliated with airports. In fact, they'd probably just raise the limit like they did after the construction of the Sears Tower.

Remember, that 2,000ft limit was meant for guyed radio masts out in the boonies, which cause a crash once every other year. A grand total of 4 planes in US history have hit skyscrapers, all of them in New York and half of those were deliberate the other half having occured before modern air navigation systems. The FAA, even if it had the authority, would have a hard time proving its case in court. We just have to wait for an ego large enough, and an economy robust enough for us to see the first US >2,000 footer.

Daquan13
Apr 17, 2006, 5:28 AM
Other than Sears presently dominating the field, what other planned tower for the USA would top Sears, the Fordhem Spire?

Even the Freedom Tower, which was going to be the WTB, won't even be the country's tallest.

STR
Apr 17, 2006, 5:40 AM
Don't expect any ultra talls this boom. Fordham Spire will be the pinnicle of this decade for the US, which isn't bad by any measure. Next time, we should see at least one big proposal.

nezzybaby
Apr 17, 2006, 9:24 AM
Thanks.



I think they're ranking by acreage, which includes the quarter mile diameter lake smack in the middle. It's just the usual Dubai blustering.


Yes some of the statistics are quite amusing, my favourite was that theyd be building at a floor a week, a world record for a tower of this size........

er isnt this the only tower of this size?

Bergenser
Apr 17, 2006, 11:53 AM
its pretty cool that you are posting those 3d models:) keep up the good work!
:):):)

STR
Apr 17, 2006, 7:24 PM
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3271/bd6.th.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bd6.jpg) http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4144/bd5.th.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bd5.jpg) http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2839/bd4.th.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bd4.jpg) http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5278/bd8.th.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bd8.jpg) http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5408/bd7.th.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bd7.jpg)

Top view
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3865/bd10.th.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bd10.jpg)

Wireframe of the model.
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5474/bd9.th.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bd9.jpg)

STR
Apr 17, 2006, 7:28 PM
Yes some of the statistics are quite amusing, my favourite was that theyd be building at a floor a week, a world record for a tower of this size........

er isnt this the only tower of this size?

Height? It's in a class of its own. Size, as in floor space, it's barely in the top 10 largest. Several buildings, including Chicago's Aon Center (which has almost exactly as much space as Dubai Tower will) went up about as or even more quickly than BD is.

Slugbelch
Apr 17, 2006, 9:51 PM
Lookin' good. The best models out there.

choyak1
Apr 18, 2006, 1:40 AM
Those models of Burj Dubai show how graceful it is, compared with the HUGE BLOCKS of the Chicago Trade Towers. Even Sears looks SQUAT AND FAT compared to BD. The Fordham Spire on the other hand is an act of pure gracefulness also. I love those BD models, and the BD when finished will be a sight to see!!!!

Tom In Chicago
Apr 18, 2006, 3:30 PM
Nice 3D

JACKinBeantown
Apr 18, 2006, 3:37 PM
Nice work, STR.

Slugbelch
Apr 18, 2006, 9:51 PM
Some people are saying that it is at level 40 @ 150meters. (3.75 per floor)

We can confiirm the levels by the painted numbers on it, but we cannot confirm the height so easily:

Level 1-15,19-24, & 26-40 are the same height.
Level 25 is bigger than the rest of the levels
Level 16,17,&18 are bigger than 25.

Levels 16-18 (3 levels) are equal to 4.5 of the majority levels.
Level 25 equals 1.5 of the majority levels

As of now, if it is 40 levels, then it should be measured as 42?

42x(3.75 per floor)= 157.5 meters (516.7 ft.)?
:shrug:

STR
Apr 18, 2006, 10:00 PM
17-18 will be machinery levels and will be the location of the first banded area of the facade. The next machinery level will be at 41-42.

25 will be the last level before the 2nd setback. All such levels are somewhat higher than normal floors. The 33rd will be the next setback and higher floor. The 41-42 machinery level will be the 3rd setback.

Slugbelch
Apr 19, 2006, 1:15 AM
Some people are saying that it is at level 40 @ 150meters. (3.75 per floor)

We can confiirm the levels by the painted numbers on it, but we cannot confirm the height so easily:

Level 1-15,19-24, & 26-40 are the same height.
Level 25 is bigger than the rest of the levels
Level 16,17,&18 are bigger than 25.

Levels 16-18 (3 levels) are equal to 4.5 of the majority levels.
Level 25 equals 1.5 of the majority levels

As of now, if it is 40 levels, then it should be measured as 42?

42x(3.75 per floor)= 157.5 meters (516.7 ft.)?
:shrug:
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/2357/13zb2.jpg

Maybe level 25 is 1 1/8 size.

JACKinBeantown
Apr 19, 2006, 2:55 AM
Interesting.

GFSNYC
Apr 19, 2006, 4:49 AM
I may be hasty in saying that this could very well be the Empire State Building of our time. Not since the 1920s-1930s has there been a race of one "World's Tallest" beating another in the span of only a couple of years. Now, it is being done on a world-wide level, and while many past "World's Tallest" has beaten the previous record holder by a 100ft more or less, the Burj Dubai will beat the tallest by a considerable margin.

I can't seem to think why I'm associating the BD with the ESB, maybe both have the same balance of proportion, set-backs, elegant and simple designs, epic scale, or maybe the BD reminds me of the the spire of the ESB itself.

Bergenser
Apr 19, 2006, 5:51 PM
I really don`t understand why they have the "building`s height keept in private and would not be told until the building is finiched:whisper:"

why? :dunno: maybe its because, it`s just to scare other cities/countries to try to get the WTB before 2008

but that is just stupid! I really think they can see that no one are gonna build something heigher than Burj Dubai before 2008... so wath`s the problem with telling us the actully height....:hmmm:

or maybe they don`t actully know the height:haha: :haha:

-GR2NY-
Apr 20, 2006, 6:44 PM
Looks like the status has fallen into "on hold". Why? whyyyy???











Kidding. :)

Slugbelch
Apr 21, 2006, 3:04 AM
3 setbacks can be seen from webcam:
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/2443/3stages25vu.jpghttp://img512.imageshack.us/img512/7184/3stages227su.jpghttp://img512.imageshack.us/img512/420/3stages2222fo.jpg

Bergenser
Apr 21, 2006, 1:05 PM
Does some one have a link to a dubai webcam? :)

sciguy0504
Apr 21, 2006, 8:42 PM
Those pictures make it seem like Dubai is the Los Angeles of the Middle East with all that smog.

Nice progress!

Slugbelch
Apr 22, 2006, 4:30 AM
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/2793/oldnewspire1kg.jpg

John Hinds
Apr 22, 2006, 7:48 AM
If that middle diagram is correct then it's a building that's around 905m.
And the spire is 270m high now...

STR
Apr 22, 2006, 7:49 AM
That spire was clearly an edit.

John Hinds
Apr 22, 2006, 9:51 AM
I know the one in the middle isn't the offical one, but the scale of the top setbacks on that one in the matches the latest rendering better.

The one on the left is around 740m. But the spire is the old design.

Slugbelch
Apr 22, 2006, 12:26 PM
Big version with a little bit shorter spire here (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2008416&postcount=45)

STR
Apr 22, 2006, 5:13 PM
I know the one in the middle isn't the offical one, but the scale of the top setbacks on that one in the matches the latest rendering better.

The one on the left is around 740m. But the spire is the old design.

Culwalla at SSC says he's got a contact that reported a height of 750m, with the top floor (161) at around 600m. I think that's credible given that Cul is a pro architectural model maker who is likely to know people and not just some punk who pulls 1km out of his ass.

Fury
Apr 22, 2006, 10:39 PM
Hey all. Slugbelch, nice work on the plans/section drawing and prev. paintshops. They really help visualize what's happening.:tup:
May I offer some pics to help show the bottom floors.

This is from the side with the red crane - from Nov '05 notice the 1 in the top left

http://i3.tinypic.com/w7y2ic.jpg

Higher up

http://i3.tinypic.com/w7y8lu.jpg

Now from the North side

http://i3.tinypic.com/w7yff8.jpg

If you count from the bottom up :
B3
B2
B1
Concourse
Ground
Level 1, 2, 3, 4
Level 5 first with floor formed to a point

Both sides show the same count. With the site sloped I think the concourse level opens to ground level on one side and the ground level on another. So the plan/section drawing has been followed exactly so far, but it is missing the B3 level IMHO.

Bergenser
Apr 23, 2006, 7:49 PM
Wow!

Dubai skyline 2008!:

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just imagin how good wiew you`ll have from the top floor in that flat nation...:yes:

Slugbelch
Apr 24, 2006, 12:01 PM
Currently, it is hard to tell what # they will be below 1 as the labels are not painted on the walls yet. But we are certain that all 3 sides have the number 1 on the same level all the way around it. We need a current aerial shot of it now.

BTW, new photos added at SSC here (http://skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=8166930&postcount=135)

and here (http://skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=8167283&postcount=137)

(Don't worry, they are just the pics, not pages of useless bullshit that occupies 95% of the thread.

GO_UAE
Apr 24, 2006, 10:05 PM
Wow!

Dubai skyline 2008!:

_______l_____

just imagin how good wiew you`ll have from the top floor in that flat nation...:yes:

People like you make things so much more fun for us Dubaians =) your the ones who will be shocked the most

malec
Apr 25, 2006, 12:56 AM
I really don`t understand why they have the "building`s height keept in private and would not be told until the building is finiched:whisper:"

why? :dunno: maybe its because, it`s just to scare other cities/countries to try to get the WTB before 2008

but that is just stupid! I really think they can see that no one are gonna build something heigher than Burj Dubai before 2008... so wath`s the problem with telling us the actully height....:hmmm:

or maybe they don`t actully know the height:haha: :haha:
They know every single detail about the tower. They keep the height secret since it's a good marketing trick

Lecom
Apr 25, 2006, 7:52 PM
Taipei skyline 2004!:

_______l_____

fixed it for ya

STR
Apr 25, 2006, 8:06 PM
Originally Posted by Bergenser

Taipei skyline 2004!:

_______l_____fixed it for ya




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Fixed it for ya.

ukw
Apr 25, 2006, 9:10 PM
Hey can someone tell me, have there been any injuries or deaths since this work began?

And, are any expected?

Lecom
Apr 25, 2006, 9:27 PM



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Fixed it for ya.
Damn, you're the man with all types of skyscraper renders, not just 3D models.

malec
Apr 25, 2006, 9:30 PM
Hey can someone tell me, have there been any injuries or deaths since this work began?

And, are any expected?
Apparently there was one injury (at least from the signboard pic a few weeks back)

Bergenser
Apr 26, 2006, 6:16 PM
Great job STR, that text-drawing was great.
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Lecom
Apr 26, 2006, 9:25 PM
I may be hasty in saying that this could very well be the Empire State Building of our time. Not since the 1920s-1930s has there been a race of one "World's Tallest" beating another in the span of only a couple of years. Now, it is being done on a world-wide level, and while many past "World's Tallest" has beaten the previous record holder by a 100ft more or less, the Burj Dubai will beat the tallest by a considerable margin.

This argument makes it more of a Woolworth Building of our time.

-GR2NY-
Apr 28, 2006, 3:11 PM
Hey can someone tell me, have there been any injuries or deaths since this work began?

And, are any expected?

Yes. We are expecting a man to fall to a terrible fate (looks at watch) in about 16 hours.

Slugbelch
Apr 28, 2006, 8:50 PM
work in progress:
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/3434/smallcustom0rh.jpg

:shrug: :tup: