DUBAI | Burj Khalifah (Burj Dubai) | 828 M / 2,716.5 FT - Pinnacle | 162 FLOORS

[graham]

surely somewhere on the net you will find info regarding the distance that is viewable from the tower

Hi Mocholate - the question in hand was how much would the curvature of the earth cutoff from the bottom of Burj Dubai when it's viewed from 150kms.
A flat topography is assumed. Haze notwithstanding and binoculars or telescope allowed. Also atmospheric lensing notwithstanding. And with one's eyeball at 5 to 6 feet above the ground.
We've had a wide range of answers from 50 feet to more than 2,650 feet.
We are sort of stumbling along to a good approximation. Stay tuned.

In the meantime, here's another great Von Studach shot. Simliar to the previous one by him, but different....

http://home.cogeco.ca/~gm9159/bd4.jpg

[graham]

I put some new Burj Dubai, Lake Hotel pics here because the internet connection is wrong here, thanks for the du :) ( will post later The Index, Emirates Towers and some Business Bay pics as well)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/imresolt/

They promised , maybe after 2-3 days will be good again:)

flickr , yahoo and some websites good but most of them I can not open.

Thanks Imre - your contribution is the greatest.

[jason111]

lol u guys still going at that stupid math crap......what does it matter?

[graham]

lol u guys still going at that stupid math crap......what does it matter?

It's just interesting to know how such a massive structure interplays with the earth's curvature. And what limits viewing distance of the entire structure from a great distance - haze or curvature cutoff?
We're almost done - keep your pants on - lol.

[MolsonExport]

A few more middling miles and it could become the space elevator!

Truly amazing stuff going on in Dubai.

[koops65]

Here's my 2 cents worth... while 'math' may not have anything to do with the actual construction of Burj Dubai, the discussion is still about the Burj Dubai, and how far away it can be viewed from, or how far you could see from the top if it... just because some people might not be 'into' discussing that particular subject, or feel that it wastes their time, doesn't mean its off-topic... when I log in and check out threads with new posts, I dont get all 'pissed-off' when people post things like 'nice building' or things of that nature, which don't contribute anything at all to the thread... everyone needs to learn to RELAX and CALM DOWN

[graham]

OK Jasonhouse..........

Can you get your autocad proggy solving for x please? Thanks.

http://home.cogeco.ca/~gm9159/Q2.jpg

We'll be done with it soon.
Thanks for your patience folks.

And thanks for your several dollars worth, koops65.
Here's another PAN-O-RAMA fantastico by Von Staudach......

http://home.cogeco.ca/~gm9159/bd5.jpg

[Rilestone75]

^ At first go, my calculation is that X = 855.36 ft. +/- a couple feet.

[graham]

^ At first go, my calculation is that X = 855.36 ft. +/- a couple feet.

thats real close to my 800' guess.
let's see what others peeps get.

In the meantime, looks like Imre has been inspired (no pun intended) lately.
Check these pics of his out......
http://home.cogeco.ca/~gm9159/bd6.jpg

http://home.cogeco.ca/~gm9159/bd7.jpg

http://home.cogeco.ca/~gm9159/bd8.jpg

http://home.cogeco.ca/~gm9159/bd9.jpg

[towerguy3]

One degree of arc distance (distance measured along the curve of the Earth)is 24,903 miles / 360 = 69.2 miles. This is equivalent to 60 Nautical miles. The angular separation between the eye and BurjDubai, in this scenario, is 1.3 degrees. 1.3 degrees is the angular separation between the two points.

1.3 degrees * 69.2 miles/degree = 90 miles of arc distance, but the diagram shows that distance as the chord distance (the straight line distance through the Earth between BurjDubai and the eye).

The chord distance and arc distance will not be the same.

[towerguy3]

quote: the question in hand was how much would the curvature of the earth cutoff from the bottom of Burj Dubai when it's viewed from 150kms

Yes but when you say "viewed from 150 km", that means 150 km distance as measured along the curve of the earth. For example, when people say the distance between Seattle and Vancouver is 120 miles, that's measured along the surface of the earth, not through the Earth (chord distance).

What you drew in the diagram as 150 km is the chord distance between the tower and the eye. That is a different value of d than used in my equations. The d in these equations is arc distance:

d = SQRT (2Rh + h^2) and h = R - SQRT {(R^2)-(d^2)} where R = 6391 km

[towerguy3]

your x is my h

[Rilestone75]

quote: the question in hand was how much would the curvature of the earth cutoff from the bottom of Burj Dubai when it's viewed from 150kms

Yes but when you say "viewed from 150 km", that means 150 km distance as measured along the curve of the earth. For example, when people say the distance between Seattle and Vancouver is 120 miles, that's measured along the surface of the earth, not through the Earth (chord distance).

What you drew in the diagram as 150 km is the chord distance between the tower and the eye. That is a different value of d than used in my equations. The d in these equations is arc distance:

d = SQRT (2Rh + h^2) and h = R - SQRT {(R^2)-(d^2)} where R = 6391 km

I agree with you on the Chord Distance vs. Arc, but in this scenario, with A = 428 ft, the difference between Arc and Chord is so miniscule that it changes the amount of Burj that is viewable from that point, by a foot or two.

I still think that from 90 miles away, you would lose sight of the first 855 ft or so.

[towerguy3]

h = 6391 - SQRT {(6391^2 - 150^2)} = 1.76 km or 1,760 meters

from 150 km away, 1,760 meters of BurjDubai would be cutoff, and it'll never be that high so no part of BurjDubai would be visible from 150 km

[Rilestone75]

h = 6391 - SQRT {(6391^2 - 150^2)} = 1.76 km or 1,760 meters

from 150 km away, 1,760 meters of BurjDubai would be cutoff, and it'll never be that high so no part of BurjDubai would be visible from 150 km

Okay, I'm going to disagree with you based on "real life".... I live in Chicago. I travel to the south suburbs frequently. If you've been here, you know it is a VERY flat city. I can see almost 80% of the Sears Tower (on a clear day) from more than 40 miles away. The Sears Tower isn't nearly as tall as BD, so at 90 miles, I would think you would be able to see a portion of the building.

[towerguy3]

The atmosphere acts as a lens and bends the light that reaches your eyes, increasing your visual distance. My formulas assume no air lens effect.

The variation between r and d is not linear; r varies as the square of the d. Double the distance d and r (the part cutoff) quadruples. From 40 km out the bottom 125 meters is cut off, from 80 km out the bottom 500 meters is cut off.

[towerguy3]

These formulas assume eye near ground level. The two situations, viewing the distant horizon from a height and conversely, being at that same point on the horizon and looking back at the tower, use the same formulas.

Assume you are 500 meters up Burj Dubai and I am standing on the horizon 80 km away. We are both using telescopes to sight each other.

From my viewpoint, I could see you 500 meters up the BurjDubai tower (you would be barely visible on the horizon), and the part of the tower above you would appear above the horizon.

The part of the tower below you would be below the horizon and not visible to me.

Again, neglecting the effects of the atmosphere acting as a lens....

[graham]

yeah - don't forget the diagram is schematic.
The difference between the length of the straight and curved lines is miniscule.

wow - you guys got vastly different calcs.

Rilestone says 855 feet.
towerguy says 5,720 feet.
I think were gonna need Jasonhouse with his autocad proggy to sort it out.

My very latest numbers has it at 1,128 feet of cuttoff.
Probably autocad will prove that wrong.
We'll have to wait for Jasonhouse to fire it up again.

[towerguy3]

also, a second project is to derive an equation that will calculate amount of BurjDubai cutoff (h) seen from a distance d away from that tower and at a specific eye elevation (h').

Instead of eye elevation (h') at a man's height, make it 100 meters. One person is 100 meters up one tower, the other 600 meters up BurjDubai, both 60 km apart; how much of each other's tower can the other person sight neglecting air lens effect?

[photoLith]

This building is amazing! and that pano photo of Dubai is so sexy, I love it! Dubai is going to be incredible in just a few years, heck I might even go there and see it myself one of these days. Anyways, this may have already been stated but how tall is it now?

[graham]

This building is amazing! and that pano photo of Dubai is so sexy, I love it! Dubai is going to be incredible in just a few years, heck I might even go there and see it myself one of these days. Anyways, this may have already been stated but how tall is it now?

605 meters, give or take a couple meters.
There is a whole bunch of guyed radio masts a bit taller, but not for long.

[graham]

also, a second project is to derive an equation that will calculate amount of BurjDubai cutoff (h) seen from a distance d away from that tower and at a specific eye elevation (h').

That IS the project, as far as I know

Instead of eye elevation (h') at a man's height, make it 100 meters. One person is 100 meters up one tower, the other 600 meters up BurjDubai, both 60 km apart; how much of each other's tower can the other person sight neglecting air lens effect?

As intertesting as that is, that's not the project, and since there are some not enamoured with this subject let's not start any new scenarios.
I think we'd be pushing our luck - lol. Thanks.

Here's an up close and personal shot by Imre Solt, that reminds us it's still a construction site still. Somewhat dirty and dusty....

http://home.cogeco.ca/~gm9159/bd10.jpg

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COULD THIS POSSIBLY BE REAL!!!???........ http://www.meed.com/news/2008/02/hyder_designing_megatall_tower.html

[Mocholate]

Thanks Graham :cool:

I used to like BD but at 600 metres this thing is becoming an eyesore . I cant imagine in 10 years time it will look any better given the rate technology moves nowdays .
The window cladding is bland and also appear on other structures like Trump Chicago. From most angles the building appears to have a lop sided V shape instead of 3 sided

My 2 pence :cool:

[graham]

Thanks Graham :cool:

I used to like BD but at 600 metres this thing is becoming an eyesore . I cant imagine in 10 years time it will look any better given the rate technology moves nowdays .
The window cladding is bland and also appear on other structures like Trump Chicago. From most angles the building appears to have a lop sided V shape instead of 3 sided

My 2 pence :cool:

For sure, the fact that the last 3 1/2 months! has brought us only 3 levels of steel, seems unbelievable to many people.
Even the 7 or 8 levels before that were excruciatingly slow too.
It dashes enthusiasm and interest. Creates doubt. Publicity and media interest wane.
The concrete forms at the top level of the "high wing" are still sitting there!! Who knows?
I think it might be time for a 100 percent management refit.
I am really dissapointed myself and fear there may be a major forkup on the horizon.
Other than that...........

Well, I think it's the best thing done architecturaly since the Ghery Musem in Balboa Spain ( albeit not a scraper).
When all the cladding is on it will take up a more thick and solid appearance and will reflect light in a dazzling way.
Even just doing the bottom 2 mech levels with cladding will bring a new terrific feel from it.
It's going to be a masterpiece as hinted at in the Staudach shots.
Did you see those? Scroll back a bit if you didn't see em. They are the first good clue of what will emerge there.
Have patience - you'll love it again!

My one pence - lol.

[AltinD]

^^ There's no problem in Burj Dubai and the speed of construction is at should be, considering what it's being done.

[AltinD]

Shots from Dec 30th, 2007

http://i30.tinypic.com/160x2k2.jpg


closer...

http://i32.tinypic.com/309lutc.jpg

[graham]

^^ There's no problem in Burj Dubai and the speed of construction is at should be, considering what it's being done.

I hope your right, but it seems to me and many others that 3 1/2 months for 3 levels of steel with a rather small floor area suggests problems.
We might expect problems with unproven materials, untested design, winter type weather, labour problems etc., but none of that is apparent.

Why do you think it is taking so long?
They are falling further and further behind schedule - yes?
Does that not suggest unexpected difficulty?

Thanks for your excellent pics Altin D.

[photoLith]

I was just wondering, this kinda has to relate to this towers construction and may eventually one day impact it, but has there been any suicide bombings in Dubai, I think I remember hearing that there have never been any, or at least none recently. It would seem to be a possible target because I mean Dubai is trying to emulate the West and attract Westerners, does that pose any threat to the city? Since it is run by Arab interests and not westerns for the most part is that why it is safe?

[towerguy3]

Can we try to get some photos of BurjDubai from a long distance away? Be interesting to see the maximum distance that this tower can be photographed from on a clear day and the effects of haze and atmospheric refraction on the image, especially taken at distance from a boat out in the Gulf.

Calculations are one thing but distant photos taken through telephoto lenses would be great!

[graham]

I was just wondering, this kinda has to relate to this towers construction and may eventually one day impact it, but has there been any suicide bombings in Dubai, I think I remember hearing that there have never been any, or at least none recently. It would seem to be a possible target because I mean Dubai is trying to emulate the West and attract Westerners, does that pose any threat to the city? Since it is run by Arab interests and not westerns for the most part is that why it is safe?

I think you answered your own question.
From what I understand - their law is derived from their religion and so they are not a target for fundamentalist extremists.

[jason111]

i do have to give you guys props.....your all mad smart lol

[Fury]

Hi all.

Been away for a few days - gotta eat - gotta work ....

Took 2 days to go through all the pics out there recently - 250 pics for the collection ....

Hats off to all the photogs.

Arabian Business - 08 02 02 - just some of what they have in their World spread !

http://aycu32.webshots.com/image/44031/2004975072903646691_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004975072903646691)

http://aycu39.webshots.com/image/42558/2004943442043982103_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004943442043982103)

http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/45162/2002670378876263775_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002670378876263775)

http://aycu12.webshots.com/image/44691/2002697240757271853_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002697240757271853)

http://aycu11.webshots.com/image/44130/2002635727850558114_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002635727850558114)

http://aycu11.webshots.com/image/44130/2002684495611870787_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002684495611870787)

http://aycu20.webshots.com/image/42299/2002683311302264802_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002683311302264802)

I tried to go back and find where I got these so I could credit the photogs - no luck - my eyes hurt ...:nuts: - 08 02 08

http://aycu02.webshots.com/image/45761/2002646859564797567_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002646859564797567)

08 02 09

http://aycu13.webshots.com/image/45452/2002652238533253201_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002652238533253201)

http://aycu16.webshots.com/image/45375/2002631680255762057_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002631680255762057)

Here is just 2 of many fantastic night shots from Omaro. These are part of absolutely the best set of night shots ever ! The 3 posted a few pages ago are also very nice ( I can't recall the name of the photog ) but Omaro's are of comparable quality and much more different angles and number of shots. I encourage everyone to go to Bikes' Site (http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/) in photo's, Feb 12 and check them out !

http://aycu13.webshots.com/image/44492/2002643673213169256_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002643673213169256)

http://aycu05.webshots.com/image/44284/2002612332795800197_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002612332795800197)

Here is some renders of the lobbies interiors from SOM. These are new to my collection - I already had 3 of the interior and 4 of the exterior of the lobbies ( Lobbies - as there are 3 of them ).

http://aycu23.webshots.com/image/44382/2000334838732792687_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2000334838732792687)

http://aycu37.webshots.com/image/45076/2000357115357651060_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2000357115357651060)

http://aycu11.webshots.com/image/42570/2000324772614485928_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2000324772614485928)

http://aycu27.webshots.com/image/43866/2000348141690472711_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2000348141690472711)

I have to thank Imre for his continued updates through Flickr in this transision to his new pad. I hope you all went there or Bikes' site to see the 60 odd pics from Feb 14 - very nice !

I used one of Imres great shots for this - to show the levels to the top of tier 16.

http://aycu08.webshots.com/image/43047/2000311069568490461_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2000311069568490461)


Have a good day all. :)

:cheers:

[CALMSP]

^^^ Sometimes atmospheric conditions actually extend the distance at which you can see a skyline. There is an effect called lensing that happens on Lake Michigan sometimes that allows you to see the Milwaukee Skyline (tallest building is like 200m) from clear across the lake which is like 80 miles or 150km or something like that.

What happens is that cold, dense air, gets on top of the relatively warm non-dense air generated by the relatively warm lake water and acts as a lens bending the light coming from Milwaukee back down by a few degrees allowing you to see it from great distances.

PS: When the Chicago Spire is complete there will be an easy line of sight between the top of CS and the top of the tallest building in Milwaukee. I have a feeling that you will often be able to see Milwaukee from the top of CS whenever there is a slight lensing effect from the lake. That would be sweet, seeing another city from nearly 100 miles away.


i can back you up on this. Growing up along lake michigan in Ottawa county, standing on top of the sand dunes i saw the lights coming from the chicago skyline.

[towerguy3]

can it be seen from the coast of Iran?

[towerguy3]

The closest point in Iran to the tower is Oibl Bandar Lengeh, Iran, a distance of 94 miles (151 km). Would love to see a photo of the tower from that distance just to see you could actually see it from that distance at sea level!

Another great viewpoint is Abu Musa a distance of 49 miles (79 km) to the tower.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2146/2273081236_6729e7cdd5.jpg

[Rise To The Top]

I'm liking this view:

http://i32.tinypic.com/309lutc.jpg

Makes Dubai look nice, actual highrise cluster instead of the good ol' strip that we normally see. Will be nice to re-visit this view in 5 years.

[flissss]

The building is truly a wonder of engineering....and the night shots are mad dope. Wow!

[AltinD]

I hope your right, but it seems to me and many others that 3 1/2 months for 3 levels of steel with a rather small floor area suggests problems.
We might expect problems with unproven materials, untested design, winter type weather, labour problems etc., but none of that is apparent.

Why do you think it is taking so long?
They are falling further and further behind schedule - yes?
Does that not suggest unexpected difficulty?

Thanks for your excellent pics Altin D.

What schedule? No one has seen the schedule... the schedule changes with every redesign and there has been many of those.

BTW, in 24 hours they erected some 5 pillars for the next floor and as per today mid-day, at least three of them were connected horizontally already.

[AltinD]

I was just wondering, this kinda has to relate to this towers construction and may eventually one day impact it, but has there been any suicide bombings in Dubai, I think I remember hearing that there have never been any, or at least none recently. It would seem to be a possible target because I mean Dubai is trying to emulate the West and attract Westerners, does that pose any threat to the city? Since it is run by Arab interests and not westerns for the most part is that why it is safe?

Fortunatelly no such incidents so far and hopefully will not be any soon. The city is under very tight security and the Big Brother is always watching, from the moment you put foot in the Airport ... even that not visible to the people.

Of course there might be other geo-political reasons as well.

BTW, the city is not just trying to atract the so called westerners, they/we are already here.

[GO_UAE]

22 sec long clip by me on the 18th of FEB of the BD ! :P

http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=f9fjg3&s=3

another one

http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=5nop69&s=3

[Fury]

Hi all.

Here is the schedule from near a year ago. I put some text in to show what the horizontal lines represent.

http://aycu15.webshots.com/image/44054/2001516867590347353_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001516867590347353)

As we can see they were to be at level 160 in the second week of Dec '07 and starting tier 19 in the second week of Mar '08. They are seriously behind this schedule.

We will see if they make the third week of sept '08 top out date - or the second week of Aug '09 completion date.

This thing is so kewl - I love watching it grow - doesn't matter to me if they are behind schedule.

:cheers:

[SapphireBlueEyes]

Surely if you count the contruction cranes in their upright position, as it is in some photos, it is already taller than the 646 meter (2,121 foot) tall Warsaw Radio Mast, the tallest structure ever built!

I mean the height of the building is now listed as 604.9 meters (1,985 feet), just 41.1 meters (136 feet) shorter than the Warsaw Radio Mast, and thats not counting the cranes in upright position which surely are taller than 136 feet just by themselves! So literally the manmade height in those photos is likely already higher than anything man has ever built, including guyed masts!

[Fury]

Hi all.

Blog - 08 02 07

http://aycu25.webshots.com/image/43624/2000051132168568164_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2000051132168568164)

:cheers:

[chex]

woow! insane!

[Rilestone75]

For sure, the fact that the last 3 1/2 months! has brought us only 3 levels of steel, seems unbelievable to many people.
Even the 7 or 8 levels before that were excruciatingly slow too.
It dashes enthusiasm and interest. Creates doubt. Publicity and media interest wane.
The concrete forms at the top level of the "high wing" are still sitting there!! Who knows?
I think it might be time for a 100 percent management refit.
I am really dissapointed myself and fear there may be a major forkup on the horizon.
Other than that...........

Well, I think it's the best thing done architecturaly since the Ghery Musem in Balboa Spain ( albeit not a scraper).
When all the cladding is on it will take up a more thick and solid appearance and will reflect light in a dazzling way.
Even just doing the bottom 2 mech levels with cladding will bring a new terrific feel from it.
It's going to be a masterpiece as hinted at in the Staudach shots.
Did you see those? Scroll back a bit if you didn't see em. They are the first good clue of what will emerge there.
Have patience - you'll love it again!

My one pence - lol.

Don't forget that while the cladding may look bland now, it is covered in construction dust, and perhaps still has its protective film on it. I agree that once complete the reflection and contrast of the blue tint in the glass against the silver aluminum will look amazing!:tup:

[[SP]Neo]

:tup: :tup: WOW that photo is absolutely awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[glezgayol]

wow, fury this is an amazing picture, in the distance is observed Creek extension, i love dubai

[towerguy3]

Are not the Warsaw Radio Mast and the tower in North Dakota both guyed masts (stabilized with cables) or are they self supporting?

[old town resident]

Update February 20th

Cladding with exception of mechanical floors now complete up to level 96 all around BD.

http://i26.tinypic.com/2d3y8j.jpg

http://i30.tinypic.com/xm0op3.jpg

http://i31.tinypic.com/keyiht.jpg

http://i28.tinypic.com/v4y0bt.jpg

[Fury]

Hi all.

Hope everyone who could took in the Lunar eclipse - spectacular.

Flickr - 08 02 15 :

Mary78

http://aycu33.webshots.com/image/44672/2003152711819283055_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003152711819283055)

c_nel22

http://aycu20.webshots.com/image/43259/2003118533818187460_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003118533818187460)

Blog - 08 02 15

http://aycu18.webshots.com/image/46217/2003149213445309432_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003149213445309432)

Click on the first and third shots then view original as they are large.

:cheers:

[Fury]

Hi all

Here is a very crude but somewhat acurate representation of the size of tier 15 and tier 18. I chose these 2 because they are roundish.

http://aycu19.webshots.com/image/45178/2004727895691847172_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004727895691847172)

http://aycu13.webshots.com/image/44092/2004749433150906292_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004749433150906292)

This thing might look thin at the top but it is still way bigger than most houses at tier 18.

:cheers:

[Fabb]

I'm not sure I read the map correctly, but I can see only one elevator shaft. If that's true, the wait to go up and down will be long and boring.

[Kirre]

I just got in to Dubai this afternoon and took a couple quick shots. I will be here for about 2 weeks so I expect to be able to get some better shots soon.

http://kirre716.smugmug.com/photos/257193133_f4usb-X2.jpg
http://kirre716.smugmug.com/photos/257192417_AbnAW-X2.jpg

[Fabb]

^I love the first one.
The tower under construction seems to defy the menacing sky.

[Fury]

Hi all.

Click on thumbs then view original size - they are large.

Picasa - Sebastion - 08 02 18

http://aycu29.webshots.com/image/43508/2001235296804116404_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001235296804116404)

Flickr - hhhoffme - 08 02 04

http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/44682/2001221650043219850_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001221650043219850) http://aycu09.webshots.com/image/44648/2001226769025470207_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001226769025470207) http://aycu23.webshots.com/image/43422/2001209931710152087_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001209931710152087) http://aycu21.webshots.com/image/43540/2001260316663277435_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001260316663277435)

Picasa - chandrasekar - 08 02 15

http://aycu14.webshots.com/image/45253/2001266012246048481_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001266012246048481)

http://aycu05.webshots.com/image/44124/2001276740852495830_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001276740852495830)

:cheers:

[Fury]

I'm not sure I read the map correctly, but I can see only one elevator shaft. If that's true, the wait to go up and down will be long and boring.

Hi Fabb.

Read Here (http://www.otis.com/corp/c1-projects.html) about the 54 elevators and 8 escalators in the Burj Dubai. Scroll to the right and pick Burj Dubai.

:cheers:

[zagreb]

Forum - Imre = Boring

[Fabb]

Hi Fabb.

Read Here (http://www.otis.com/corp/c1-projects.html) about the 54 elevators and 8 escalators in the Burj Dubai. Scroll to the right and pick Burj Dubai.

:cheers:

Thanks for the link.

The fastest elevator, a double-deck, will travel at the rate of 1,969 feet per minute (10 meters per second). That means passengers will be transported up and down at almost 22 miles per hour (35 kilometers per hour). The trip will take about 55 seconds.

^That's impressive.

[smile1]

In Taipei 101, the fastest elevator of the world travel with 16,8 m/s!

[Kirre]

Still not the best pictures since it was getting dark, but I am uploading some better pictures than I took yesterday as I write this.

http://kirre716.smugmug.com/gallery/4386047_PZdaF#257531926

[davee930]

In Taipei 101, the fastest elevator of the world travel with 16,8 m/s!

hopefully it doesn't accelerate faster than gravity when you're going down haha

[FrancoRey]

It's okay if it's only slightly faster. Floating is fun. :)

[Fury]

Hi all.

Great shots Kirre - enjoy your stay and please post more if / when you have some.

Here (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=QW9gL9Bs_ko) is a vid from level 153 ( says 155 ) - posted at SSC by Bonnani today.

I see youtube changed its site - I was wondering why vdownloader wouldn't work anymore. I just got Free Youtube Download from DVDVideoSoft - works great and you can save in AVI. Make sure you are well protected - virus and spyware.

:cheers:

[mclancer]

What a view.

To bad the observation deck was not on the 155th floor
(or higher)

[Imre]

23/February/2008

Burj Dubai and my favourite security:)


http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/940/imresolt32ds4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7992/imresolt23zg8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3127/imresolt25ef8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/1483/imresolt40cc4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/7818/imresolt04iu1.th.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt04iu1.jpg)http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9793/imresolt05tm4.th.jpg (http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt05tm4.jpg)http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8175/imresolt06qt0.th.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt06qt0.jpg)http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/8651/imresolt11iz5.th.jpg (http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt11iz5.jpg)http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/7893/imresolt12hf1.th.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt12hf1.jpg)http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9920/imresolt16la8.th.jpg (http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt16la8.jpg)
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/2258/imresolt39zl7.th.jpg (http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt39zl7.jpg)


massive road works have started

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/196/imresolt01ay9.th.jpg (http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt01ay9.jpg)http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/4490/imresolt02il7.th.jpg (http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt02il7.jpg)

...and lake works as well

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/2999/imresolt35ey5.th.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt35ey5.jpg)http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6449/imresolt36nz3.th.jpg (http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt36nz3.jpg)http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/2377/imresolt37tl2.th.jpg (http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt37tl2.jpg)http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/3285/imresolt38ht6.th.jpg (http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt38ht6.jpg)

[AltinD]

Work on the 5th floor of the steel section started today. The first column was up when I drove by around 3:30 PM. Maybe more have come up since then. :cheers:



... didn't someone said they are slow and are probably facing financial problems?

[AltinD]

Basically the building has reached now a height of 617.70 m or 2027 ft.

[Fury]

Hi all.

So kool - once the columns are up for the first level of tier 18 - level 160 mezz. 3 - we will have the tallest structure on earth ! I realize the cranes have been taller for a while now but they aren't part of the structure. :)

Some pics - click the thumbs and then view original ( then in XP if your settings are default click on the pic ) to see full size as some are very large.

Picasa - AJ - 08 01 10 and 11

http://aycu32.webshots.com/image/43671/2002646293169894356_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002646293169894356) http://aycu19.webshots.com/image/46498/2002600183512754056_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002600183512754056) http://aycu40.webshots.com/image/45439/2002604771039310782_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002604771039310782)

Picasa - Diana - 08 01 20

http://aycu40.webshots.com/image/45439/2002678468032857504_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002678468032857504) http://aycu01.webshots.com/image/43920/2002615080197957809_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002615080197957809) http://aycu08.webshots.com/image/45447/2002672536783325627_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002672536783325627)

08 02 09

http://aycu30.webshots.com/image/46949/2002633988801607884_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002633988801607884)

Flickr - FotoGraficSub - 08 02 18

http://aycu26.webshots.com/image/44025/2002641263913530678_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002641263913530678)

Picasa - Alpen - 08 02 20 and 21

http://aycu02.webshots.com/image/44361/2002641585189834089_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002641585189834089) http://aycu37.webshots.com/image/45876/2002616840821483602_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002616840821483602)

Have a good day all. :cheers:

[jason111]

it'll be interesting to see what dubai will look like in 10 years

[speedy1979]

In 10 years they will have a mile high skyscraper.

[Bergenser]

Basically the building has reached now a height of 617.70 m or 2027 ft.

Thanks, I've been waiting for height updates for a while now,
a bit over 600 meters is what I estimated.

[Fury]

Hi all.

Flickr :

outnabout1 - 08 02 19

http://aycu29.webshots.com/image/44268/2000604510870854983_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2000604510870854983)

iheartfinn - 08 02 24

http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/45406/2000631756515518021_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2000631756515518021)

:cheers:

[Colin Giersberg]

In 10 years they will have a mile high skyscraper.

Maybe sooner.

[graham]

Surely if you count the contruction cranes in their upright position, as it is in some photos, it is already taller than the 646 meter (2,121 foot) tall Warsaw Radio Mast, the tallest structure ever built!

I mean the height of the building is now listed as 604.9 meters (1,985 feet), just 41.1 meters (136 feet) shorter than the Warsaw Radio Mast, and thats not counting the cranes in upright position which surely are taller than 136 feet just by themselves! So literally the manmade height in those photos is likely already higher than anything man has ever built, including guyed masts!

Good Point and one which others seldom make.
Just because they are used as cranes does not mean that it's not a man made structure. Albeit not permanent in nature.

[Fury]

Hi all.

Picasa :

Ursula - 08 02 15

http://aycu14.webshots.com/image/45373/2001596234037429835_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001596234037429835)

http://aycu04.webshots.com/image/44363/2001591873454109971_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001591873454109971) http://aycu25.webshots.com/image/46744/2001535689040063327_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001535689040063327) http://aycu17.webshots.com/image/44176/2001541876836258989_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001541876836258989) http://aycu14.webshots.com/image/45253/2001517028259930609_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001517028259930609)

Valeri Lev - 08 02 17

http://aycu13.webshots.com/image/43772/2001553409413636416_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001553409413636416)

http://aycu18.webshots.com/image/46097/2001517699372289776_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001517699372289776)

http://aycu12.webshots.com/image/45611/2001540783939073468_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001540783939073468)

Great to see the steel pace ramping up. Perhaps the will get to the scheduled pace :

http://aycu22.webshots.com/image/46501/2003506985515782472_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003506985515782472)

:cheers:

[towerguy3]

the Warsaw Radio Mast collapsed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_radio_mast

[L.u.v.]

^ Zomg when did that happen?? :haha:

;)

[SD_Phil]

The cladding is coming out much better than I could have hoped. It's looking really really slick. Can't wait for the steel sections to rise up faster.

[AltinD]

:previous: The previous floor took just 5 days and the current one who started on Saturday, might be completed tomorrow (meaning the next one might start) and if that would be the case, then they would have reached a 4 days build time for a floor.

Cladding also reached the 100th floor already

[Fury]

Hi all.

Picasa - Peter - 08 02 19

http://aycu35.webshots.com/image/47274/2002432858907346615_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002432858907346615)

http://aycu01.webshots.com/image/44640/2002406679125340360_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002406679125340360) http://aycu34.webshots.com/image/44673/2002456822212488613_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002456822212488613) http://aycu15.webshots.com/image/44374/2002414596285434739_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002414596285434739)

:cheers:

[johnandahalf]

^ Zomg when did that happen?? :haha:

;)

1999

[Imre]

28/February/2008

Burj Dubai

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/122/imresolt31rb6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/3893/imresolt33xx9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7/imresolt09de8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6893/imresolt60pm7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


podium cladding , Al Abbar Aluminium

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6751/imresolt26zm6.th.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt26zm6.jpg)http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/4089/imresolt27qq6.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt27qq6.jpg)http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4051/imresolt30dv4.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt30dv4.jpg)http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2460/imresolt41pu4.th.jpg (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt41pu4.jpg)http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/4082/imresolt48sc7.th.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt48sc7.jpg)http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/8674/imresolt52oz5.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt52oz5.jpg)
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/7522/imresolt53sa4.th.jpg (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt53sa4.jpg)

roof section

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8779/imresolt01yy7.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt01yy7.jpg)http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6187/imresolt02ys6.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt02ys6.jpg)http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/3351/imresolt11vr8.th.jpg (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt11vr8.jpg)http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/2057/imresolt35pr2.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt35pr2.jpg)http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3452/imresolt49by6.th.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt49by6.jpg)http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/4196/imresolt62mo5.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt62mo5.jpg)
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7413/imresolt63oz6.th.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt63oz6.jpg)http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3407/imresolt72ic9.th.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt72ic9.jpg)http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8616/imresolt74uk9.th.jpg (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt74uk9.jpg)

cladding, mechanical floors etc...

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/3729/imresolt05vw4.th.jpg (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt05vw4.jpg)http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/191/imresolt06qr1.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt06qr1.jpg)http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/9350/imresolt12kc2.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt12kc2.jpg)http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/696/imresolt16jo2.th.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt16jo2.jpg)http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9978/imresolt21xs0.th.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt21xs0.jpg)http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/8382/imresolt22ba5.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt22ba5.jpg)
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/6107/imresolt24zu7.th.jpg (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt24zu7.jpg)http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/63/imresolt34ng2.th.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt34ng2.jpg)http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8569/imresolt38xz8.th.jpg (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt38xz8.jpg)http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/1842/imresolt41it8.th.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt41it8.jpg)http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3761/imresolt50ht2.th.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt50ht2.jpg)http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/7075/imresolt51pp5.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt51pp5.jpg)
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6628/imresolt54sn5.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt54sn5.jpg)http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2251/imresolt59is3.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt59is3.jpg)http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2363/imresolt64wp4.th.jpg (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt64wp4.jpg)http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8139/imresolt69dt1.th.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt69dt1.jpg)

lake, weather, glass..

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1073/imresolt66th3.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt66th3.jpg)http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/3272/imresolt70nm6.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt70nm6.jpg)http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6744/imresolt14hv2.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt14hv2.jpg)http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/9318/imresolt15vj4.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt15vj4.jpg)

:)

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5162/imresolt25pz5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Biff]

28/February/2008

Burj Dubai


http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5162/imresolt25pz5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


So the Burj is getting high tech toilets i see! :D

[Surrealplaces]

Nice update pictures!

[photoLith]

Those are some shitty toilets for such an expensive building, maybe thats how they saved their money, by buying toilets youd see in a freakin prison.

[davee930]

those toilets look like they're in a dumpster to me...

[Fury]

Hi all.

Some nice old pics on blogs.

07 09 22

http://aycu04.webshots.com/image/44203/2004832958352854472_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004832958352854472) http://aycu34.webshots.com/image/46433/2004842711729051752_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004842711729051752) http://aycu12.webshots.com/image/46611/2004841703733677820_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004841703733677820)

07 11 17

http://aycu38.webshots.com/image/47277/2004843263521911629_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004843263521911629) http://aycu26.webshots.com/image/46385/2004836697760938257_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004836697760938257)

07 11 26

http://aycu33.webshots.com/image/44392/2004866689817071455_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004866689817071455) http://aycu02.webshots.com/image/44401/2004833676646415242_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004833676646415242)

07 12 05

http://aycu04.webshots.com/image/44563/2004869999273906716_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004869999273906716)

07 12 18

http://aycu31.webshots.com/image/45870/2004800746931494960_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004800746931494960)

08 01 10

http://aycu27.webshots.com/image/45746/2004813587881739830_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004813587881739830)

Flickr - g885522 - 08 01 25

http://aycu31.webshots.com/image/44710/2005335333001911440_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005335333001911440)

Blogs :

08 02 01 16

http://aycu17.webshots.com/image/45976/2005388580508775251_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005388580508775251)

08 02 02

http://aycu06.webshots.com/image/46685/2005321517618323303_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005321517618323303)

08 02 03

http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/43846/2005315224019506191_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005315224019506191)

:cheers:

[pablosan]

Thanks for the updates.

[Imre]

01/March/2008

Burj Dubai

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/157/imresolt01ip5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/3762/imresolt12kj6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/6259/imresolt31nt1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/8364/imresolt03ka8.th.jpg (http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt03ka8.jpg)http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/8969/imresolt08mm9.th.jpg (http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt08mm9.jpg)http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/9440/imresolt15qi3.th.jpg (http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt15qi3.jpg)http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/2797/imresolt22ze1.th.jpg (http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt22ze1.jpg)http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/1333/imresolt28lh8.th.jpg (http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt28lh8.jpg)http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1118/imresolt25rw7.th.jpg (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt25rw7.jpg)
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4323/imresolt11ti1.th.jpg (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt11ti1.jpg)http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/1364/imresolt29px8.th.jpg (http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt29px8.jpg)

[Surrealplaces]

Nice updates! This one is really coming along.

[bassem]

So the Burj is getting high tech toilets i see! :D

i think that those toilets are used ones may be they are the ones used by the labours working there and they will start to remove it to install the new elegant ones

[Puzzlecraft]

Still taking about 2 weeks per steel floor..... will be watching to see if the pace picks up in March.

[kraggman]

Looks like a scene from Bladerunner. Cool pic Fury. :tup:

http://aycu06.webshots.com/image/46685/2005321517618323303_rs.jpg

[Dalton]

Those plumbing fixtures must be for back room facilities used solely by building workers (i.e. in restrooms for janitors, maids, maintenance workers). They can't be for the condos or hotel rooms nor for visitors facilities.

[photoLith]

This building and city, are starting to look like something out of science fiction.

[old town resident]

BD above the clouds this morning. I wasn’t really concentrating on the top because of the clouds, but is that a steel column to the left of the right crane?

Also as Imre says no mechanical cladding in prog5ress yet although it did look like it in yesterdays pic.

http://i25.tinypic.com/e6bw1z.jpg

http://i32.tinypic.com/2uep4cj.jpg

http://i29.tinypic.com/k148r4.jpg

[GO_UAE]

Thanks Old Town Resident :)

[Fury]

Hi all.

Picasa :

Marius - 08 02 29

http://aycu16.webshots.com/image/47535/2004914401019540919_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004914401019540919)

http://aycu31.webshots.com/image/48030/2004930793685187647_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004930793685187647)

Erica - 08 03 01

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[bigdogc]

hi all- a couple of questions:
how long until the expected topping out?
also, the remaining floors are steel, correct? Will these floors be occupied, or are they just for "looks" / spire?

Thanks!

[zagreb]

They will most likely relocate the crane in the middle that was doing some of the cladding to a higher level since the the cladding reached its level a few day ago, then cladding should be at a normal pace again.

Nobody really knows what the interior of steel section will be used for yet.