The Great Canadian Skyline thread for CMAs 1 million and under [Archive] - Page 44

Tone

May 7, 2019, 4:10 AM

:tup:

Au fait, j'ai entendu dire que la Grande place allait être démolie. Est-ce qu'il y a un échéancier ?

J'entendais justement à la radio ce matin que le bill privé permettant la réalisation du projet devait être déposé au parlement aujourd'hui ou incessamment. Le maire avait dit que la démolition pourrait commencer aussitôt le bill privé adopté, ce qui devrait se faire au début juin.

Je suis certain que le promoteur n'a pas l'intention de niaiser, déjà qu'il a été retardé de plusieurs mois par quelques réfractaires (je crois que tu es un peu au courant de la situation?). Donc je me croise les doigts pour une démo cet été, début automne au plus tard.

Translation: a dead mall demolition and redevelopment is about to take place very soon in downtown Rimouski.

Tone

May 9, 2019, 4:57 PM

:tup:

Au fait, j'ai entendu dire que la Grande place allait être démolie. Est-ce qu'il y a un échéancier ?

Salut Franks, on dirait bien que le bill privé va être déposé la semaine prochaine finalement selon ce tweet:

https://twitter.com/Denisleduc2/status/1126189474935922688

FrAnKs

May 10, 2019, 12:44 AM

Salut Franks, on dirait bien que le bill privé va être déposé la semaine prochaine finalement selon ce tweet:

https://twitter.com/Denisleduc2/status/1126189474935922688

Excellent, j'ai hâte de connaître la suite. Ça va donner un coup de pouce à votre front de mer, qui aurait besoin selon moi d'un peu plus d'amour.

DLLB

May 11, 2019, 1:20 AM

Edmonton's a metropolitan area of 1.3 to 1.4 million people...

I like the skyline of Calgary's so much better becuase of the symmetry and many more tall buildings

Chadillaccc

May 11, 2019, 1:53 AM

I like the skyline of Calgary's so much better becuase of the symmetry and many more tall buildings

You may have misunderstood my post. I said that because he posted that skyline photo in the "cities under 1 million" skyline thread. While I agree with what you say, it doesn't have anything to do with what I meant.

DLLB

May 13, 2019, 1:36 AM

You may have misunderstood my post. I said that because he posted that skyline photo in the "cities under 1 million" skyline thread. While I agree with what you say, it doesn't have anything to do with what I meant.

We are in the same situation, you misunderstood my post. I was just referring to the 2 skylines. I actually hadn't even seen your post. :tup:

Chadillaccc

May 13, 2019, 1:59 AM

You quoted my post...

Chadillaccc

May 27, 2019, 5:06 AM

http://res.cloudinary.com/simpleview/image/upload/v1538000498/clients/saskatoon/Meetings_Media_Gallery_Request_dfc783cb-5863-4b86-97a3-29e3e7a77971.jpg
https://www.tourismsaskatoon.com/things-to-do/

EspionNoir

May 27, 2019, 9:09 AM

http://res.cloudinary.com/simpleview/image/upload/v1538000498/clients/saskatoon/Meetings_Media_Gallery_Request_dfc783cb-5863-4b86-97a3-29e3e7a77971.jpg
https://www.tourismsaskatoon.com/things-to-do/

You go to Saskatoon often?

Chadillaccc

May 27, 2019, 4:32 PM

Never been. I posted the source at the bottom of the photo.

itom 987

May 28, 2019, 3:28 AM

Tourism Saskatoon needs to update their image.

ssiguy

May 28, 2019, 5:05 AM

For me it's Winnipeg, Hamilton, and London for best skylines, in that order.

Chadillaccc

May 28, 2019, 5:16 AM

I'd say Winnipeg and Quebec City in a close, almost indiscernible tie, followed by Halifax, London, and Saskatoon to round out my top 5. In that order.

Also, more skylines for the new page...

Kelowna - 210 000

https://www.kelowna.ca/sites/files/1/uploads/banners/inside/city-scape-from-north-blue-skies.jpg
https://www.kelowna.ca/our-community/about-kelowna/kelowna-bc

Saskatoon - 320 000

https://images.thestar.com/WOK_TWMurUU_Gj9cr5-OzxraO4o=/1086x734/smart/filters:cb(2700061000)/https://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/life/travel/2014/09/17/saskatoon_food_and_hotels_to_rival_toronto_and_a_cool_new_vibe/kayaking_the_s_saskatchewan_river.jpg
https://www.thestar.com/life/travel/2014/09/17/saskatoon_food_and_hotels_to_rival_toronto_and_a_cool_new_vibe.html

Saint John - 150 000

https://drugaddiction.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/saint-john-nb-1.jpg
https://drugaddiction.ca/canada-drug-rehab-center-help/help-for-drug-addiction-in-new-brunswick/saint-john-nb/

London - 520 000

https://scottwebb.me/wp-content/uploads/scott-webb/London-life-one-london-place-1-photo-fall-2017-version.jpg
https://scottwebb.me/london-life-freedom-55/

Red Deer - 100 000

https://s3.amazonaws.com/medias.photodeck.com/4485ef4c-02a6-4a64-b471-97fc6cd902d3/18-06-20-0138_xgaplus.jpg
https://www.stockaerialphotos.com/media/4485ef4c-02a6-4a64-b471-97fc6cd902d3-downtown-red-deer

Yellowknife - 25 000

http://www.ykinsidersguide.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/cdetno-yk-guide-homepage-background.jpg
http://www.ykinsidersguide.ca/

Tone

Jun 2, 2019, 4:17 AM

Ste-Foy le 1er juin
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47983038977_cfdec0a6cf_b.jpg

WhipperSnapper

Jun 2, 2019, 6:41 PM

Watch out Stantec! Ste-Foy is coming for your crown!

FrAnKs

Jun 2, 2019, 7:46 PM

Le Phare will appear at least 2 times higher than Jules-Dallaire #2 on this picture !
I think it will be built just off the picture on the left.

someone123

Jun 2, 2019, 10:20 PM

Downtown Halifax:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/7213/ZDHUg4.jpg
Source (https://www.visionairimages.com/Geographic-Zone/Halifax-EasternShore/)

Tone

Jun 3, 2019, 1:20 AM

Le Phare will appear at least 2 times higher than Jules-Dallaire #2 on this picture !
I think it will be built just off the picture on the left.

Yes, its a bit tricky to tell but it might appear a few inches in the frame.

Also, I noticed the building left to Jules-Dallaire #1 got a new reclad.

FrAnKs

Jun 3, 2019, 1:43 AM

Yes, its a bit tricky to tell but it might appear a few inches in the frame.

Also, I noticed the building left to Jules-Dallaire #1 got a new reclad.

Oui, ça a débuté à l'automne et ça été extrêmement long à terminer !

king10

Jun 3, 2019, 3:07 AM

For me it's Winnipeg, Hamilton, and London for best skylines, in that order.

I have halifax nudging london for third.

Tone

Jun 4, 2019, 11:51 AM

Excellent, j'ai hâte de connaître la suite. Ça va donner un coup de pouce à votre front de mer, qui aurait besoin selon moi d'un peu plus d'amour.

Le projet de loi privé doit être déposé aujourd'hui (finalement), envoi-nous des ondes positives pour qu'il n'y ait pas d'anicroches!

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1173326/grande-place-groupe-selection-projet-loi-proprietaires-riverains-rimouski

Seyah

Jun 12, 2019, 4:45 PM

Few London pics, figure they fit here better than in the normal Great Canadian Skyline thread

http://i.imgur.com/2nXs8q0h.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/pdooI6Ch.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/kSD8fgBh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/3o2183Fh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/uVuISfMh.jpg

I really love the new Azure building, wish it changed the lighting colors more often. Would have taken a pic when it was purple for a bit or when it was green white and red during Christmas but it just slipped my mind

Chadillaccc

Jun 12, 2019, 4:51 PM

http://dailyphotodose.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Lethbridge_Sunrise_Skyline.jpg
http://dailyphotodose.com/
http://dailyphotodose.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Lethbridge_Sunrise.jpg
http://dailyphotodose.com/

isaidso

Jun 13, 2019, 12:08 AM

1. Winnipeg
2. Halifax
3. Quebec City
4. Victoria
5. Hamilton

Chadillaccc

Jun 13, 2019, 2:41 AM

Kamloops, British Columbia...

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46992690474_2b6cc022ab_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2eAzPFh)
1 (https://flic.kr/p/2eAzPFh) by Tyler Anderson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152832480@N05/), on Flickr

MonctonRad

Jun 24, 2019, 1:09 PM

A couple of nice photos of downtown Moncton by Moncton forumer Budyser, who was able to accomplish the rare feat of avoiding (or at least ignoring) the twin phalluses of the downtown (Assumption Place and the Bell Aliant Tower) when composing his work. :)

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48118005377_897b3cbc8a_h.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48117915061_6a465d56a3_h.jpg

The tents and the smoke arising from the Riverfront Park in the first photo is from the Rotary Rib Fest which occurred on the weekend - a legally sanction and widely attended exhibition of gluttony that occurs every year at this time.

Seyah

Jun 25, 2019, 12:21 AM

London looks quite impressive from certain angles. Really the biggest drawback is the city’s lack of vantage points

http://i.imgur.com/IagPm7Ph.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/61tRDL4h.jpg

GeneralLeeTPHLS

Jun 25, 2019, 1:16 AM

Looks like an old image of London too, without the new Azure tower. London will look somewhat different from it's skyline soon enough with some of the skyscrapers going up now.

Spocket

Jun 25, 2019, 10:03 AM

Is it finally starting to bulk up to reflect its size? It's definitely added quite a bit in the past decade or so.

Seyah

Jun 25, 2019, 4:56 PM

Looks like an old image of London too, without the new Azure tower. London will look somewhat different from it's skyline soon enough with some of the skyscrapers going up now.

Azure is great, plus Riverwalk and 515 Richmond will make a good difference. Theres quite alot proposed that will make it even more dense, London just really needs to start building higher now.

Seyah

Jun 25, 2019, 4:57 PM

Is it finally starting to bulk up to reflect its size? It's definitely added quite a bit in the past decade or so.

If you’re talking about London it already does reflect its size pretty well, when compared to say Halifax or KWC

ssiguy

Jun 25, 2019, 5:16 PM

I completely agree, London punches way above it's weight in the highrise department.

Chadillaccc

Jun 25, 2019, 5:27 PM

Saskatoon - 325 000

https://postmediathestarphoenix2.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/1002-aerials-saskatoon-ldr245.jpg
https://thestarphoenix.com/news/local-news/city-halls-vision-includes-possible-new-downtown-arena-convention-centre

Kelowna - 215 000

http://www.southokanaganproperties.com/wp-content/uploads/kelowna-hero-3-1.jpg
http://www.southokanaganproperties.com/category/kelowna-real-estate/

Red Deer - 110 000

http://medias.photodeck.com/e02cb950-cde9-493d-911e-f60907e3f6ff/08-20-2016-0466_xgaplus.jpg
https://www.stockaerialphotos.com/media/4485ef4c-02a6-4a64-b471-97fc6cd902d3-downtown-red-deer

GreatTallNorth2

Jun 26, 2019, 2:39 AM

I completely agree, London punches way above it's weight in the highrise department.

There are two cranes in the downtown right now for the 24 floor Riverwalk and the 32 floor One Richmond Place. They are digging for a 31 floor tower on King Street and construction should be underway this year on a 40/29/9 tower complex on Talbot.

London's skyline has been and will continue to be transformed.

And of course, K/W is massively under-represented on this forum, and they are building a massive amount of towers in both Kitchener and Waterloo. Luckily for London, our 40 floor "Centro" tower is going to be taller than their new 39 floor "Duke" Tower (and prettier). Both will be over 400 feet.

https://postmedialfpress.files.wordpress.com/2019/05/old-oak.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&w=826&h=619&crop=1&zoom=2
^London Centro

http://www.remaxexcel.com/wp-content/uploads/2-2.jpg
^Kitchener Duke

Spocket

Jun 26, 2019, 3:04 AM

If you’re talking about London it already does reflect its size pretty well, when compared to say Halifax or KWC

I'd say it has height but I can't be the only person to notice the lack of density.

isaidso

Jun 26, 2019, 3:32 AM

I completely agree, London punches way above it's weight in the highrise department.

I've always thought the complete opposite. London's skyline is small for a metro of 540,000.

isaidso

Jun 26, 2019, 3:38 AM

I'd say it has height but I can't be the only person to notice the lack of density.

You aren't. Halifax, which is 20% smaller than London, has a bigger and denser skyline. Halifax punches above its weight, London punches below its weight.

Seyah

Jun 26, 2019, 4:27 AM

I've always thought the complete opposite. London's skyline is small for a metro of 540,000.

I completley disagree, because in that metro it includes places like St Thomas, Strathroy, Port Stanley, and other towns that arent conected to London in any way, not even busses. And KWC is about that size and look at the skyline there

Seyah

Jun 26, 2019, 4:31 AM

I'd say it has height but I can't be the only person to notice the lack of density.

It certainley lacks density, but now the Richmond Row area is getting dense with Azure, 515 Richmond, 131 King and the two on that Talbot complex. That area will look more downtown than the offices around Dundas and Wellington. Closer to the river. Its gonna look great in two years time, And by the end of the year at least 2 will already be claerly in the skyline. Things are really looking up.

131 King Street
https://i.imgur.com/ZrOrd8qh.jpg

515 Richmond Street
https://i.imgur.com/r1JJBeKh.jpg

Riverwalk
https://i.imgur.com/639XGoLh.jpg

Talbot/Dufferin/Fullarton (Dont know the actual name, please lmk)
https://i.imgur.com/Bt20Ptch.jpg

Seyah

Jun 26, 2019, 4:44 AM

You aren't. Halifax, which is 20% smaller than London, has a bigger and denser skyline. Halifax punches above its weight, London punches below its weight.

Denser sure. But again this goes back to Londons shitty location. Imagine just Londons current buildings built up to the water like Halifax, If locations swapped London would be leagues and leagues ahead of Halifax in every measure

Spocket

Jun 26, 2019, 12:11 PM

Denser sure. But again this goes back to Londons shitty location. Imagine just Londons current buildings built up to the water like Halifax, If locations swapped London would be leagues and leagues ahead of Halifax in every measure

Um...if you say so.

To the layperson I'd say London really doesn't look as bulked up as Halifax even if it has the advantage in height. To each their own but I don't really understand how your eyes work differently than ours. You can see it exceptionally clearly just by looking at Google Maps and the sea of parking lots in London. Halifax is way denser and it's odd that anybody would deny it. As was said above, Halifax punches above its size while London punches below. Those projects pictured above will make a huge difference and are going to look fantastic. They may well make the difference in how London is perceived.

esquire

Jun 26, 2019, 1:59 PM

I completely disagree that London's skyline is unimpressive. Compared to just about any North American city of under 500,000, London's skyline is fantastic. Halifax has a good one too even if it's a bit lower, the sheer density really does a lot. But Seyah is right, a waterside location really boosts a skyline's appearance, and London still looks great even without that major advantage.

At first glance, London looks like Winnipeg in this pic Seyah posted:

http://i.imgur.com/IagPm7Ph.jpg

...which is saying something, given that Winnipeg is a considerably larger city.

GreatTallNorth2

Jun 26, 2019, 5:53 PM

I'd say London's skyline is about average for a city of 390,000 people. Once these 5 or so towers are built, it will be an improvement. London is not as dense as Halifax, but hey - we aren't Halifax. We certainly have taller buildings and proposals for what that's worth.

Oh and that above picture is missing some of the newer towers.

Nouvellecosse

Jun 26, 2019, 6:53 PM

Seyah

Jun 26, 2019, 8:45 PM

Um...if you say so.

To the layperson I'd say London really doesn't look as bulked up as Halifax even if it has the advantage in height. To each their own but I don't really understand how your eyes work differently than ours. You can see it exceptionally clearly just by looking at Google Maps and the sea of parking lots in London. Halifax is way denser and it's odd that anybody would deny it. As was said above, Halifax punches above its size while London punches below. Those projects pictured above will make a huge difference and are going to look fantastic. They may well make the difference in how London is perceived.

Really dont know what youre trying to argue when i agreed that London is decently less dense. I was disagreeing with saying that London punched below its weight. Density doesnt mean much when buildings are very similar heights all in the same area. Heres an apartment complex on Wonderland that you would probably love because even though the buildings look the same and are the same height, at least its dense

https://i.imgur.com/BZJtJYDh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/yOD4x3yh.jpg

someone123

Jun 26, 2019, 9:39 PM

From a purely skyline perspective, I actually find the Halifax skyline less attractive now with the additional density of the last decade because it's become such a table top with little in terms of peaks or focal points. I'm grateful for the increased density from a planning perspective of course since it's brought more people and activity downtown and covered some unsightly vacant or underutilized lots, but the skyline has gone from being sort of cool and interesting for a city its size to being... bland.

I think Halifax's skyline has gotten better and there are lots of nice new buildings in the pipeline. It's worth mentioning though that while downtown Halifax is pretty heavily planned, there's been no attempt to make the skyline appealing and in many cases the rules imposed do the opposite. The viewplanes are frustum shaped (bulky boxes) and encourage intensification in massive blobs as long as everything is below a certain height.

There's no allowance at all for the odd landmark highrise, and there's no planning distinction between height due to usable space and ornamentation, so it costs a lot to build something like a spire. All of the view rules are about managing views of natural or historic features from the city.

We might actually see more diversity of styles in outer urban and suburban areas. The average quality will be higher in the urban core but it will be a lot of 20 storey stuff that just adds to the tabletop effect.

What the rules (and the city's older, smaller block and street pattern) has been good for is keeping the developments relatively slender and the street level frontages varied and well scaled.

Echoes

Jun 27, 2019, 2:09 AM

Saskatoon, the old and the new:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48135671707_2cbba45977_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2gkzUbg)

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48135665587_c753f0da63_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2gkzSmK)

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48135660412_09715fe3b7_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2gkzQPw)

someone123

Jun 27, 2019, 9:53 PM

Not sure if this one's been posted before. I think it was taken last year.. or maybe 2 years ago?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DykfIYJUwAAbNk9.jpg:large
Source (https://twitter.com/portofhalifax/media)

Nouvellecosse

Jun 27, 2019, 10:36 PM

I like how all the highrises and midrises make it look like a major city.

Nathan

Jun 28, 2019, 12:38 AM

harls

Jun 28, 2019, 12:51 AM

Nice pics Nathan. The first one looks like smog (boo), but pretty sure it's fog (yay).

Nathan

Jun 28, 2019, 1:53 AM

Nice pics Nathan. The first one looks like smog (boo), but pretty sure it's fog (yay).

I believe your latter assumption is correct in this case, though Regina has had smoke roll in from the more severe wildfires in Alberta and Northern Sask over the last few years.

Chadillaccc

Jun 28, 2019, 1:58 AM

Red Deer - 110 000

http://scraselaw.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/top-banner-img-5.jpg
http://scraselaw.ca/about/top-banner-img-5/

London - 540 000

https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/1/downtown-london-ontario-at-night-jay-smith.jpg
https://fineartamerica.com/featured/downtown-london-ontario-at-night-jay-smith.html

Saskatoon - 330 000
http://www.bestwesterneastside.com/Content/images/attractions_main.jpg
http://www.bestwesterneastside.com/things-to-do-in-saskatoon

advance62

Jun 28, 2019, 2:29 AM

kwoldtimer

Jun 28, 2019, 2:34 AM

Kitchener, by myself:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48129966313_4564c055fb_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2gk5Eap)MSP 20190625-IMG_4263 (https://flic.kr/p/2gk5Eap) by Matt (https://www.flickr.com/photos/matthewsmithphoto/), on Flickr

Was that photo taken before the Duke Tower crane went up, or is it just not high enough yet to see it from that vantage point? The idea of four, soon to be six or more, cranes up in DTK at the same time amazes me.

advance62

Jun 28, 2019, 3:28 AM

Was that photo taken before the Duke Tower crane went up, or is it just not high enough yet to see it from that vantage point? The idea of four, soon to be six or more, cranes up in DTK at the same time amazes me.

This was just the other night. You can't see the Duke crane from this angle yet but as it rises you will. There are already 5 in DTK and at least 3-5+ more will be up by late summer. Garment Street, Young Condos, Drewlo, etc

Echoes

Jun 28, 2019, 3:11 PM

Nice Regina shots on the previous page!

someone123

Jun 29, 2019, 6:45 PM

I like how all the highrises and midrises make it look like a major city.

What is or isn't a major city is pretty subjective.

One thing I've noticed is that in Canada (with SSP Canada being at an extreme), there is a tendency to think of the N largest cities in the country as major. Calgary got "promoted" to major status sometime around the 1970's-90's. Halifax might or might not be considered major depending on who you talk to, and Saint John got demoted at one point (it was 100% major at Confederation, and borderline by the 1930's). A non-major city may be larger than a major city from 20 years ago.

In 1971 the largest municipality in Canada had 438,000 people. Halifax is going to pass this in the next few months probably.

Back in the 19th century Canadian cities maxed out at 200,000 or so. London had 6.5 million people by 1900 (!). Even the largest Canadian city was tiny in comparison, and the smaller Canadian cities were equivalent to small provincial towns in Europe, and really probably felt small in a bunch of objective ways (not much anonymity, not much large-scale infrastructure, etc.). Today it's no longer like this; Toronto would be a major city in any country and the smaller regional cities in Canada are on par with similar European cities.

(There's also Canadian snobbishness or insecurity, e.g. people from Toronto who go to Montreal or Vancouver and can't stop talking about how small and provincial everything is whereas a Londoner might visit Montreal without making similar comments.)

It seems like this view is not getting adjusted as Canadian cities continue to grow. I doubt Halifax is going to feel much like a small town in 10-20 years in any objective way (e.g. it would take you quite a while to explore the city), but I bet Canadians will still talk about it like that's how it is. And we will of course have people talking about how they are uber cosmopolitan and Shanghai has 30 million people so anything less than 25 million is a stifling village to them. :)

Nouvellecosse

Jun 29, 2019, 7:42 PM

I agree that the "Nth largest" as cut off is very practical since some countries and regions have very different population distribution than others. For instance, the 10th largest city in say Germany, would probably be a lot more "major" in the German context than the 10th largest city in France would be in the French context. If you start expanding to include even larger regions like continents or very large countries like the US or China and have the cut off be a small number like 10, then you're pretty much guaranteed to include all major cities but you'd probably also leave many out.

If I'm considering whether or not Halifax is major I'd be looking in at least the national context because while it's undoubtedly major in the context of NS or the Maritimes, that isn't particularly relevant either. I don't think there are much more than 10 incorporated cities in the Maritimes for that matter. Looking like a major NS city would just mean looking like Halifax, however it happened to look at that moment. In the national context I'd say we'd need to look at percentages of the largest city in terms of population and economy. I'd say 1/10 of the largest would make a good cut off. I mean, if you have a city that's not 50% larger, not double, not quadruple, but over 10x larger in the same country/region, it's pretty hard to argue that it's still a major city. Metro Montreal for example is about 1/3 the size of metro London and even that is a striking size difference. Of course it should go without saying that you don't need to be a major city to be important, interesting, attractive, prosperous, influential, or any of the other things cities might strive for. Even towns can be those things in some cases.

None-the-less, my comment was more about the aesthetics of the picture than anything. That the impression it gives isn't in keeping with the mental image derived from my daily experience.

someone123

Jun 29, 2019, 8:31 PM

I don't think the population ratios are inherently important. The 10% rule would suggest that Hamilton is a major Canadian city, which is pretty debatable. Also, Canada's a huge and somewhat decentralized country, so the national context doesn't mean the same thing that it does in say France.

I think "major city" is arbitrary, like "world class". It only has meaning to the extent that people invent subjective standards. In Canada, the term has a lot of baggage and connotations that don't hold anymore or might not hold in the future.

Population sort of matters in that it correlates with the phenomenon of big cities siphoning economic and cultural vibrancy off of nearby smaller cities. In some countries (particularly highly centralized dictatorships and the like), the effect is incredibly strong, and if you're not connected very directly to the government in the capital you are part of a backwater. In Canada this is tempered by general economic freedoms (somewhat; not as far as a bunch of heavily regulated industries go), language, and federalism. This is actually a good thing and I hope it doesn't disappear.

Population also correlates with urban vibrancy and street life but this is just something that is or was roughly true in a North American context in around the late 20th century. A city like Halifax could easily have 4x as much street life as it does if it were designed differently. We tend to associate big crowds, vibrant storefront shopping districts, etc. with larger cities but that's just because these became boutique phenomena in the postwar era. That is changing pretty quickly. Much much faster than current metropolitan growth rates in Canada.

Nouvellecosse

Jun 29, 2019, 9:09 PM

The term "major" is certainly nebulous in the sense that there isn't a singular definition on how it should apply to for cities (size, fame, history, economy, power, impressiveness etc.) so it entirely depends on the meaning you're assigning to the term. In the way i was using it, the characteristics of the city aren't relevant since as I mentioned, you don't need to be a major city to be important, interesting, attractive, prosperous, influential, or any of the other things cities might strive for. In other words, a major city may or may not be vibrant or have good street life etc. I tend to use "major" as denoting relative size in a specific setting (a major city in Canada is not necessarily a major city on the continent or the world) while I'd use large as being universal (many globally small or medium size cities are major within their regions). Therefore I would definitely include Hamilton as major in the context of Canada. There's nothing really wrong with using it in your way; it's just a lot more complicated since you need to decide on including or excluding a lot of stats and decide where to make the cut-off for all of them rather than just the one.

someone123

Jun 29, 2019, 10:45 PM

If it's just about population, "major" sounds needlessly vague though. Why not just say largest city or most populous city if those are synonyms? They have a clearer meaning.

Nouvellecosse

Jun 30, 2019, 12:47 AM

The way i was using it may not be in reference to a city whose exact ranking you're aware of. For instance, you may recognize that Hamilton must be at least a tenth the size of Toronto and big enough to be a major city without knowing if it's the 5th biggest or the 15th biggest in the country or whatever.

Dr Awesomesauce

Jun 30, 2019, 2:12 AM

More KW, please.

kwoldtimer

Jun 30, 2019, 2:24 AM

More KW, please.

http://www.waterlooregionconnected.com/

vid

Jun 30, 2019, 2:34 AM

More KW, please.

I'm trying, photo editing is time consuming I'm not even finished Galt yet. :(

advance62

Jun 30, 2019, 11:32 PM

More KW, please.

Some K
https://live.staticflickr.com/7917/46203782745_ca2fc5a825_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2doSsTT)MSP 20190216-IMG_9465 (https://flic.kr/p/2doSsTT) by Matt (https://www.flickr.com/photos/matthewsmithphoto/), on Flickr

and some W
https://live.staticflickr.com/7848/31806041197_5aa2ae37e8_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/QsAgWD)Ion Uptown (https://flic.kr/p/QsAgWD) by Matt (https://www.flickr.com/photos/matthewsmithphoto/), on Flickr

and a little Cambridge
https://live.staticflickr.com/880/42085339154_c07df8d36a_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/277Wn6L)Galt (https://flic.kr/p/277Wn6L) by Matt (https://www.flickr.com/photos/matthewsmithphoto/), on Flickr

Dr Awesomesauce

Jul 1, 2019, 12:56 AM

^Ahhhh feel better now, thanks!

905er

Jul 1, 2019, 2:45 PM

and a little Cambridge
https://live.staticflickr.com/880/42085339154_c07df8d36a_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/277Wn6L)Galt (https://flic.kr/p/277Wn6L) by Matt (https://www.flickr.com/photos/matthewsmithphoto/), on Flickr[/QUOTE]

blessed day. ...under his eye. ;)

ssiguy

Jul 1, 2019, 6:04 PM

Cambridge still has that charm of the 3 original cities: Galt, Preston, and Hespler which I have always found endearing.

kwoldtimer

Jul 1, 2019, 6:48 PM

Cambridge still has that charm of the 3 original cities: Galt, Preston, and Hespler which I have always found endearing.

Hespeler.

SaskScraper

Jul 1, 2019, 8:14 PM

Been a while since Regina's made an appearance around here, so here are a few courtesy of the Tourism Regina Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/tourism_regina/)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BnaEjiyg9Yx/media/?size=l

https://www.instagram.com/p/BzI-7JYAGWk/media/?size=l

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bw7ujfXpUC-/media/?size=l

https://www.instagram.com/p/BxiDmmZnXeL/media/?size=l

https://www.instagram.com/p/BxvPmDYDlWq/media/?size=l

https://www.instagram.com/p/BiXJdPkAELZ/media/?size=l

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bt1ILzNDlrW/media/?size=l

https://www.instagram.com/p/BQ6soQiAXRj/media/?size=l

Saskatoon, the old and the new:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48135671707_2cbba45977_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2gkzUbg)

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48135665587_c753f0da63_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2gkzSmK)

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48135660412_09715fe3b7_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2gkzQPw)

quite rare to see Saskatchewan posters on the national SSP threads, nice to see some representation on here. :tup:

It'll be interesting to see the province's new tallest building break the glass ceiling... with a glass top-floor Winter Garden no less, on the new Nutrien tower at Riverlanding in Saskatoon next year (where white crane is standing last two pics)...

Nathan

Jul 2, 2019, 5:34 AM

quite rare to see Saskatchewan posters on the national SSP threads, nice to see some representation on here. :tup:

I used to participate a lot more in national threads, but it started to get a bit too toxic and I stopped caring as much. I read them, but don't often feel the need to contribute. :shrug:

Chadillaccc

Jul 2, 2019, 6:21 AM

Looove me some Regina (shocking I know :haha: ) I regret that I've been neglecting the city with my mass under-1 million skyline photodumps. Great post!

Some more Yellowknife lovin...

https://www.investcanada.ca/sites/default/files/yellowknife-1180.jpg
https://www.investcanada.ca/locations/yellowknife
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1584/26704174025_974ce2664a_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/GFKSzx)
Yellowknife Skyline Pano5-2_1 (https://flic.kr/p/GFKSzx) by Ronald Bonnetrouge (https://www.flickr.com/photos/102690810@N03/), on Flickr
https://www.immigratenwt.ca/sites/default/files/DSC_5409.jpg
https://www.immigratenwt.ca/start-a-business/business-immigration-program-business-stream

Nathan

Jul 2, 2019, 7:59 PM

It'll be interesting to see the province's new tallest building break the glass ceiling... with a glass top-floor Winter Garden no less, on the new Nutrien tower at Riverlanding in Saskatoon next year (where white crane is standing last two pics)...

Follow-up... Is this a sure thing? There have been a couple towers in Regina over the last decade that were supposed to be taller, but when construction started going, they were shortened by a few floors.

Chadillaccc

Jul 2, 2019, 8:04 PM

It's a for sure thing, Nutrien has already signed the lease.

Echoes

Jul 2, 2019, 8:18 PM

Follow-up... Is this a sure thing? There have been a couple towers in Regina over the last decade that were supposed to be taller, but when construction started going, they were shortened by a few floors.

Drawings posted by the Meewasin Valley Authority (https://meewasin.com/assets/upload/2019-river-landing-5c756f91809f0.pdf) a few months back note a roof height of 87.5 m. Previous reports had pegged the tower at around 95 m, so it has been shortened, but it's still enough to capture the new tallest title.

Nathan

Jul 2, 2019, 11:20 PM

Drawings posted by the Meewasin Valley Authority (https://meewasin.com/assets/upload/2019-river-landing-5c756f91809f0.pdf) a few months back note a roof height of 87.5 m. Previous reports had pegged the tower at around 95 m, so it has been shortened, but it's still enough to capture the new tallest title.

Hahaha, so just enough by a couple metres to still take the crown from Mosaic (Mosaic at one point was supposed to breach the 100m level, but was adjusted to 84.5, 0.5m taller than the delta... iirc).

Nathan

Jul 2, 2019, 11:24 PM

It's a for sure thing, Nutrien has already signed the lease.

That's not necessarily an indicator of being a sure thing. Mosaic was much more "in" during the lead-up to tower 3 being built in Regina and Nutrien has courted the bare minimum on how "Saskatchewan-committed" they are since Potash Corp merged with Calgary-based Agrium.

SaskScraper

Jul 5, 2019, 10:32 PM

I used to participate a lot more in national threads, but it started to get a bit too toxic and I stopped caring as much. I read them, but don't often feel the need to contribute. :shrug:

Same here, I use to participate more in some threads but completely lost interest when some posters got immature, or trolled & started name calling when they'd read my posts they couldn't be prepared or open enough to understand, major turn off. Some posters from certain provinces can be very touchy about the truth and need a bit more coddling I guess. :shrug:

I remember a poster from a couple years ago from Moose Jaw called PrairieGirl that use to post in the Climate thread, but she stopped posting as well when people from other parts of the country started to troll her.

To be honest, a lot of the threads lack credibility because only the same few posters post same thing daily (or few times weekly at least) into the same threads & it gets boring to point of my not caring how clicky certain posters are with each other. I don't have a very high threshold for tolerating phoney chat instead of being honest.

Hahaha, so just enough by a couple metres to still take the crown from Mosaic (Mosaic at one point was supposed to breach the 100m level, but was adjusted to 84.5, 0.5m taller than the delta... iirc).

I noticed that too, the Nutrien Tower in Saskatoon is set to be suspiciously yet narrowly just a few meters taller than Mosaic tower in Regina. Maybe Provincial 'Tallest' building has more bragging rights than we think yet 99.9% of the Sask population couldn't care less.

That might also explain Calgary's (Alberta's) tallest buildings handing over the baton so much in the last decade... until of course, Edmonton took the Provincial title by a few meters last year. :sly:

Metro-One

Jul 7, 2019, 4:04 AM

Always nice to see some Yellowknife.

Here is a great shot of the growing density in Victoria.

Yates on Yates:

https://vibrantvictoria.ca/forum/uploads/monthly_07_2019/post-1484-0-15132200-1562083879.jpeg

someone123

Jul 7, 2019, 7:43 PM

View of Sackville Street in Halifax
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Source (https://www.instagram.com/turnbullgregory/)

The ship with "K181" on it is the HMCS Sackville, a WWII corvette that is a museum ship today (probably named after Sackville NB, which was named after the Viscount of Sackville, British Secretary of State of America in the 1700's; the street might be named after him too although the dates don't quite line up).

Unfortunately the highrises don't make it all the way up the hill. There is a height restriction over the upper 3 blocks or so to preserve views.

Wpg_Guy

Jul 7, 2019, 11:09 PM

Smokey in Winnipeg this weekend

https://i.imgur.com/xGPgrs2.jpg?1
Sasha Sefter / Winnipeg Free Press

Nathan

Jul 8, 2019, 2:00 AM

Smokey in Winnipeg this weekend

...

What fires are causing it? Northern Manitoba? It's been clear in Regina this year and the rains over the last couple weeks in Sask have lowered fire risk dramatically.

Tone

Jul 8, 2019, 2:06 AM

Rimouski this evening
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48226687811_d811ed611d_h.jpg

Wpg_Guy

Jul 8, 2019, 2:19 AM

What fires are causing it? Northern Manitoba? It's been clear in Regina this year and the rains over the last couple weeks in Sask have lowered fire risk dramatically.

Northern Manitoba and north western Ontario, lots of fires along the MB/ON border.

Can check out the fire situation here: http://firesmoke.ca/forecasts/current/

vid

Jul 8, 2019, 4:02 AM

Very thick smoke in Thunder Bay over the weekend, on Saturday it was dark by 9:30 even though there were no clouds overhead.

https://i.imgur.com/y52z5nC.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/DhFQ16C.jpg

I think the day is off by one, because there is nothing for the 7th and the smoke was thicker on the 6th than the 5th or 7th. Most of Saturday, the sun was the same colour and brightness as an incandescent bulb. You could look straight at it, the smoke was so thick.

Tone

Jul 10, 2019, 11:18 PM

Ste-Foy le 10 juillet
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48252926521_5edd0e441d_b.jpg

gatt

Jul 11, 2019, 1:17 AM

Ste-Foy le 10 juillet
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48252926521_5edd0e441d_b.jpg

read Quebec city here.

Brizzy82

Jul 12, 2019, 3:02 AM

some recent Winnipeg instagram pics

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source (https://www.instagram.com/p/BzN3rmhgtP7/)

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source (https://www.instagram.com/p/BzjJjXQHCaP/)

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source (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bzo8i5nApPS/)

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source (https://www.instagram.com/p/BzUJO48gcuw/)

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source (https://www.instagram.com/p/By72GhoAXZJ/)

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source (https://www.instagram.com/p/BzZAWAnAnj4/)

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source (https://www.instagram.com/p/BzZW_PIFI3j/)

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source (https://www.instagram.com/p/BzwqunGA5fr/)

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source (https://www.instagram.com/p/ByL0_qFlVD3/)

https://i.imgur.com/oaHKQkX.png
source (https://www.booking.com/hotel/ca/downtown-apartment-winnipeg.en-gb.html?aid=356980;label=gog235jc-1DCAsoJ0IbZG93bnRvd24tYXBhcnRtZW50LXdpbm5pcGVnSDNYA2gniAEBmAEJuAEXyAEM2AED6AEBiAIBqAIDuAKC6Z_pBcACAQ;sid=7d9a583fa422e435742b5f806198abb5;dist=0&keep_landing=1&sb_price_type=total&type=total&)

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source (view-source:https://www.instagram.com/p/BzyBnaOAcTT/)