The Great Canadian Skyline thread for CMAs 1 million and under

[Beedok]

Beedok : I think Signalhillhiker knew all of it !

Okay, then I'm confused.:???:

I'll just show myself out before I make more of a fool of myself. . .

[FrAnKs]

Okay, then I'm confused.:???:

I'll just show myself out before I make more of a fool of myself. . .

Er will I do hope he knew it all :D

Hence, when he said : What ? Seriously ? ... it looked like a bit sarcastic lol

[Beedok]

Er will I do hope he knew it all :D

Hence, when he said : What ? Seriously ? ... it looked like a bit sarcastic lol

I'm terrible at sarcasm over the internet.

[FrAnKs]

I'm terrible at sarcasm over the internet.

Comprehensible.

[SignalHillHiker]

I'm still confused myself.

Wikipedia still lists Ottawa's population as 883,391 (2011).

I guess the one million mark includes Gatineau or something?

[vid]

As of the 2011 census:

Ottawa-Gatineau CMA: 1,236,324
Calgary CMA: 1,214,839

Calgary overtook Ottawa in the estimates released just after the census.

[Chadillaccc]

What? Seriously? I thought it was smaller than WPG.

Lol really? I thought it was a pretty widespread well-known fact that Ottawa has been the 4th largest metropolitan area in the country for a long time, until last year.

The wording in the title of this thread is very clear, CMAs under 1 million, not municipalities under 1 million.

[Dr Awesomesauce]

Ottawa's the smallest city of a million you'll ever see. ;)

[Acajack]

Ottawa is Calgary and Edmonton-sized. Just the city of Ottawa within city limits
is bigger than the following three metros, which are

... Quebec City, Winnipeg and Hamilton are all in the same range. Around 300,000 behind the three others.

[kwoldtimer]

Ottawa's the smallest city of a million you'll ever see. ;)

Are you joking??!! The sprawl seems to go on forever!

[FrAnKs]

Are you joking??!! The sprawl seems to go on forever!

And the greenbelt is actually a major failure

It seems they totally lost control on their sprawl.

[kwoldtimer]

And the greenbelt is actually a major failure

It seems they totally lost control on their sprawl.

Strangely, although at some level most folks in Ottawa seem to understand this, a majority would seem willing to fight to the death to save the Greenbelt. I think it needs to be relegated to the "it seemed like a good idea at the time" category.

[FrAnKs]

Strangely, although at some level most folks in Ottawa seem to understand this, a majority would seem willing to fight to the death to save the Greenbelt. I think it needs to be relegated to the "it seemed like a good idea at the time" category.

I totally agree

[Dwils01]

Great pictures tonight, Dwils, in a bunch of threads. Thanks! :)
Thanks. :cheers:

Sorry for the late reply but I just got back from my vacation. I spent a day in Toronto before coming home and I have over 100 pictures to sort out right now. Will probably post in segments because I don't want to overload the thread with pictures of Toronto.

[Dr Awesomesauce]

Are you joking??!! The sprawl seems to go on forever!

True but I think you know what I'm getting at. Ottawa doesn't feel anywhere near a million, sprawl or not. And the last time I checked, the old City of Ottawa is still in the 350,000 range. That's all I really care about. CMAs are misleading and feed people's desires to, ahem, enlarge their civic egos, much in the same way skyscrapers do.

[Acajack]

True but I think you know what I'm getting at. Ottawa doesn't feel anywhere near a million, sprawl or not. And the last time I checked, the old City of Ottawa is still in the 350,000 range. That's all I really care about. CMAs are misleading and feed people's desires to, ahem, enlarge their civic egos, much in the same way skyscrapers do.

Ottawa certainly feels like the same size as Calgary and Edmonton. The one difference is skyline with Calgary when approaching the city but once you are in the city at street level it feels basically the same. Ottawa's inner city residential areas are actually denser than Calgary's and Edmonton's, which is an element of big city feel (at least to me).

As for the old city of Ottawa, and its population, well it was only 110 sq km, whereas the "old cities" of Edmonton and Calgary are both around 700 sq km each. So of course they are going to have larger populations. They include all of the inner suburban areas (and even much of the "outer" than were not previously part of the old city of Ottawa but were part of the cites of Nepean, Gloucester, Kanata (now merged with Ottawa).

Note than that the old city of Ottawa also had a population density of over 3000 persons per sq km. Calgary and Edmonton within city limits have around 1000 per sq km. With the expanded city limits of Ottawa, including inner suburbs, for the urbanized area the density is roughly 1600 persons per sq km today.

[kwoldtimer]

Ottawa certainly feels like the same size as Calgary and Edmonton. The one difference is skyline with Calgary when approaching the city but once you are in the city at street level it feels basically the same. Ottawa's inner city residential areas are actually denser than Calgary's and Edmonton's, which is an element of big city feel (at least to me).

As for the old city of Ottawa, and its population, well it was only 110 sq km, whereas the "old cities" of Edmonton and Calgary are both around 700 sq km each. So of course they are going to have larger populations. They include all of the inner suburban areas (and even much of the "outer" than were not previously part of the old city of Ottawa but were part of the cites of Nepean, Gloucester, Kanata (now merged with Ottawa).

Note than that the old city of Ottawa also had a population density of over 3000 persons per sq km. Calgary and Edmonton within city limits have around 1000 per sq km. With the expanded city limits of Ottawa, including inner suburbs, for the urbanized area the density is roughly 1600 persons per sq km today.

It's true. I don't know how anyone could walk around the Centretown CBD without thinking it has a large city feel. Ugly, mind you, but definitely not small city.

[Acajack]

It's true. I don't know how anyone could walk around the Centretown CBD without thinking it has a large city feel. Ugly, mind you, but definitely not small city.

Ottawa also has a modest amount of capital city grandeur along Wellington St. with the Parliamentary precinct, the Château Laurier, Confederation Square, etc.

Although what I find interesting about this part of Ottawa is if you peer between the buildings, you can still see the wilderness of the Gatineau hills not too far off in the distance. It gives an odd juxtaposition of the real urbanity that you really feel all around you in the immediate environs, but also the impression that the urbanity is not endless (unlike many other cities).

This shot gives a bit of an idea of what I mean:

http://goo.gl/maps/UNmQl

[kwoldtimer]

My comment was more about this (to show one of the less unsightly ones).

http://i39.tinypic.com/2yweszm.jpg

When it comes to Centretown, it's a case of thank goodness for the "Crown" to make up for the "town", imho.

[Acajack]

My comment was more about this (to show one of the less unsightly ones).

http://i39.tinypic.com/2yweszm.jpg

When it comes to Centretown, it's a case of thank goodness for the "Crown" to make up for the "town", imho.

Yup, agree with this. The CBD in Ottawa for several blocks south of Wellington has decent street walls or urban canyons when it comes to density. The bad part of course is the architecture: mostly built for public sector clients who don't have much of an interest in "making a statement" with the buildings they occupy.

Viewed from afar Ottawa's skyline is also very uniform in height, owing mostly to restrictions on sight lines for Parliament's Peace Tower.

[harls]

Gatineau and bird poop island

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7288/8743380881_aaa051f9f7_h.jpg

by moi.

[SignalHillHiker]

Wow... so industrial. I like it!

[LeftCoaster]

Industrial? :koko:

[kwoldtimer]

Industrial? :koko:

Indeed, with its paper plant, old stone factories and dam, the Hull riverfront retains a solid bit of its industrial heritage.

[someone123]

Halifax skyline with George's Island on the right:

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5345/8752984213_e75a5d9f02_k.jpg
Source (http://www.flickr.com/photos/klkin/8752984213/sizes/k/)

[kwoldtimer]

Always nice to see a familiar skyline from a new perspective. :cheers:

[bolognium]

I'll never tire of Halifax.

http://i.imgur.com/AvYRDLm.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Rcs510d.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Yrym4f8.jpg

[Simpseatles]

^ Great pictures bolognium! Interesting angle for the first and last ones. Don't often see the skyline from the southwest. The Renaissance towers make a big impact from there.

[Empire]

Halifax skyline with George's Island on the right:

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5345/8752984213_e75a5d9f02_k.jpg
Source (http://www.flickr.com/photos/klkin/8752984213/sizes/k/)

If you look closely you will see 4 cannons pointed at the photographer buried in the ramparts of George's Island. These cannons protected Halifax in the 1800's but there were guns on the Island as early as 1750 a year after Halifax was founded. The cannons are aimed at the mouth of the harbour. They were were never used because the word spread of how pointless it would be to attack Halifax and be blasted to smithereens.

[someone123]

The Citadel is the only well-known fort but there are actually 5 national historic sites (and maybe 10 or 12 actual forts) that formed a network of fortifications protecting the harbour in Halifax: http://www.pc.gc.ca/lhn-nhs/ns/halifax/natcul/natcul1.aspx

At one point, I think York Redoubt was comparable to the Citadel in terms of size, but it hasn't been restored to the same degree. The Martello Tower is really interesting too; it's a free-standing masonry tower from the 1700's that pre-dates earthworks (the stone walls are 8 feet thick):

http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/21/68/5d/tower-1.jpg
http://www.tripadvisor.ca/ShowUserReviews-g154976-d1237721-r127476362-Prince_of_Wales_Tower-Halifax_Halifax_Regional_Municipality_Nova_Scotia.html

They should rebuild the roof:

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/obj/001075/f1/nlc009825-v6.jpg
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/

[FrAnKs]

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[FrAnKs]

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/3533/97989932.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/zobroc/image/112682615

[lio45]

Gatineau and bird poop island

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7288/8743380881_aaa051f9f7_h.jpg

by moi.


Looks like the company making that one type of brown brick managed to get their little anonymous cash envelope to the one right guy at the federal government...

[Nouvellecosse]

What's up with the island of the gulls?

[SignalHillHiker]

Gulls always congregated in close proximity, in the most convenient place to do so, and as far away as possible from other birds and people. They're like us moving to the mainland.

[Nouvellecosse]

Doesn't look like they managed to get away from other birds though. What are those large brown or black birds in the middle tree? Very odd...

[SignalHillHiker]

If it was here, they'd be hummingbird nests. I assume they exist there too.

[north 42]

Doesn't look like they managed to get away from other birds though. What are those large brown or black birds in the middle tree? Very odd...

I believe those are Cormorants.

[SignalHillHiker]

(We don't have hummingbirds, BTW... lol It was joke. I have no idea what they are).

May 26, 2013

http://www.newfoundland-photos.com/StJohnsScenes/The-Top-of-My-World/i-g5BFQ4z/0/XXXL/IMG_5932_edited-L.jpg (http://www.newfoundland-photos.com/StJohnsScenes/The-Top-of-My-World/29631826_qjRFhf#!i=2536572980&k=g5BFQ4z&lb=1&s=A)

http://www.newfoundland-photos.com/StJohnsScenes/The-Top-of-My-World/i-N2rbrFq/0/XXXL/IMG_6009_edited_2-L.jpg (http://www.newfoundland-photos.com/StJohnsScenes/The-Top-of-My-World/29631826_qjRFhf#!i=2536574400&k=N2rbrFq&lb=1&s=A)

http://www.newfoundland-photos.com/StJohnsScenes/The-Top-of-My-World/i-6S25VH7/0/XXXL/IMG_5976_edited-L.jpg (http://www.newfoundland-photos.com/StJohnsScenes/The-Top-of-My-World/29631826_qjRFhf#!i=2536573679&k=6S25VH7&lb=1&s=A)

http://www.newfoundland-photos.com/StJohnsScenes/The-Top-of-My-World/i-kj4hhB2/0/XXXL/IMG_6090%20Stitch-L.jpg (http://www.newfoundland-photos.com/StJohnsScenes/The-Top-of-My-World/29631826_qjRFhf#!i=2536577420&k=kj4hhB2&lb=1&s=A)

http://www.newfoundland-photos.com/StJohnsScenes/The-Top-of-My-World/i-bBmTWgH/0/XXXL/IMG_6046_edited-L.jpg (http://www.newfoundland-photos.com/StJohnsScenes/The-Top-of-My-World/29631826_qjRFhf#!i=2536575635&k=bBmTWgH&lb=1&s=A)

[FrAnKs]

How high is signal hill btw ?

[KnoxfordGuy]

Love that picture of Signal Hill. Very Atlantic! Looks like the place of an ancient castle.

[saffronleaf]

Gatineau and bird poop island

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7288/8743380881_aaa051f9f7_h.jpg

by moi.

This is a beautiful picture.

I have an odd question though; should pictures of Gatineau be posted in this thread? I thought Ottawa-Gatineau was the CMA, and that CMA has more than a million people.

I don't mind either way; that picture was great and I wouldn't mind seeing more Gatineau pics.

[harls]

^ your're right.. sorry bout that.

[Acajack]

Technicalllllllllly... Ottawa-Gatineau (Quebec part) is its own CMA as well I think. At least all indicators are available for it as if it was its own CMA. And it is included on many lists split off from the Ontario part. OK maybe I am splitting hairs...

Anyway it has about 320,000 people I'd say.

[Rico Rommheim]

That's an impressive shot of Gatineau (which belongs here, it is Quebec's 4th largest city), will be even more impressive once those 3 big buildings go up behind Les Terraces.

Wouldn't mind seeing a couple dozen 5-15 storey condos go up on the waterfront.

[Darkcanadian]

Ste-Foy skyline

http://imageshack.us/a/img28/7640/039wvm.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/28/039wvm.jpg/

Quebec city skyline

http://imageshack.us/a/img812/6839/040lw.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/040lw.jpg/

and...the very little and new Levis skyline :p

http://imageshack.us/a/img259/7337/041cj.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/259/041cj.jpg/

all in 1 picture!

http://imageshack.us/a/img560/7541/038ph.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/560/038ph.jpg/

On this link the picture is bigger :p

http://www.noelshack.com/2013-22-1369790689-038.jpg

[Tone]

Love the new Levis skyline!

Rimouski this evening
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2824/8896286823_f7159aee73_b.jpg

[SignalHillHiker]

Sherbrooke is looking lovely. :D

[FrAnKs]

Is it becoming a running gag or what ? -_- lol

[lake of the nations]

Sherbrooke is looking lovely. :D

So does Rimouski!

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2638/4029305070_42265695c1_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stephnh/4029305070/)
Sherbrooke (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stephnh/4029305070/) by StephnH (http://www.flickr.com/people/stephnh/), on Flickr

[bulliver]

Yellowknife from Bush Pilot Monument.
http://u1.ipernity.com/30/25/51/21292551.c20a9377.1024.jpg?r1 (http://www.ipernity.com/doc/darren/21292551)
http://u1.ipernity.com/30/25/33/21292533.56352524.1024.jpg?r1 (http://www.ipernity.com/doc/darren/21292533)

[FrAnKs]

Biggest skyline for a small city ever.

[davidivivid]

Ville de Saguenay (Chicoutimi)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7238/7259513730_e05c823e3c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lafoese/7259513730/)
Chicoutimi au coucher du soleil / Chicoutimi at sunset (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lafoese/7259513730/) par La FoeZ' (http://www.flickr.com/people/lafoese/), sur Flickr


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7435/8758101286_f00fe9642b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/95930823@N08/8758101286/)
Ville de Chicoutimi et Saguenay (http://www.flickr.com/photos/95930823@N08/8758101286/) par gaudreaultnormand (http://www.flickr.com/people/95930823@N08/), sur Flickr


http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5329/8881997715_029e0fc4a0_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/95930823@N08/8881997715/)
Ville de Chicoutimi (http://www.flickr.com/photos/95930823@N08/8881997715/) par gaudreaultnormand (http://www.flickr.com/people/95930823@N08/), sur Flickr


http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2883/8757915499_b962e509e1_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/fortinchristian/8757915499/)
DSC8002_8003_8004_8005_8006_HDR-RS.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/fortinchristian/8757915499/) par fortinchristian (http://www.flickr.com/people/fortinchristian/), sur Flickr


http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3805/8882212884_3735c5b3fc_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/95930823@N08/8882212884/)
Chicoutimi (http://www.flickr.com/photos/95930823@N08/8882212884/) par gaudreaultnormand (http://www.flickr.com/people/95930823@N08/), sur Flickr

[Chadillaccc]

What's that building under construction in front of Centre Square Place in the Yellowknife pics?

PS. Thanks for the Saguenay pic David! Never see that here :) Very nice. I guess that is the skyline of the former city of Chicoutimi?

[davidivivid]

PS. Thanks for the Saguenay pic David! Never see that here :) Very nice. I guess that is the skyline of the former city of Chicoutimi?

My pleasure and precisely!

[Chadillaccc]

Did Jonquière have a skyline at all?

[FrAnKs]

Did Jonquière have a skyline at all?

Not much of a REAL skyline. http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=fr&ll=48.414212,-71.256961&spn=0.000028,0.01678&t=k&z=16&layer=c&cbll=48.414212,-71.256961&panoid=aSGfZp8JiioTvWnorOuQXg&cbp=12,352.57,,0,0.63

Chicoutimi is leading all the way in whole city of Saguenay even if Jonquière is as much populous, or close.

[MolsonExport]

really nice Chicotimi pics. Been years since I have been down around Lac St. Jean. Lovely place.

[bulliver]

What's that building under construction in front of Centre Square Place in the Yellowknife pics?


More government offices, what else. Here's a more detailed shot.

http://u1.ipernity.com/31/93/07/21979307.217b8598.1024.jpg?r1 (http://www.ipernity.com/doc/darren/21979307)

[Chadillaccc]

Looks good, cool window pattern on the parts of cladding that has been erected. 7 storey office building, not bad for a city of only 19 000!!! Are there any new highrises on the horizon? I'm surprised more diamond/resource companies haven't put regional headquarters in the city yet.

[someone123]

Halifax skyline:

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3697/9122426342_be96591ff0_o.jpg
Source (http://www.flickr.com/photos/redditpictures/9122426342/)

[davidivivid]

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2834/9113072034_de247d6191_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/35252883@N08/9113072034/)
Moon over Québec City (http://www.flickr.com/photos/35252883@N08/9113072034/) par Daniel Lévesque (http://www.flickr.com/people/35252883@N08/), sur Flickr

[MolsonExport]

wonderful nightshots of Hal and QC

[Dwils01]

Downtown Sault Ste. Marie from the Sault Canal.
http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m498/DWils01/Sault%20Ste%20Marie/DSC04384_zps6c52bbe7.jpg (http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/DWils01/media/Sault%20Ste%20Marie/DSC04384_zps6c52bbe7.jpg.html)

http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m498/DWils01/Sault%20Ste%20Marie/DSC04382_zps16f18b01.jpg (http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/DWils01/media/Sault%20Ste%20Marie/DSC04382_zps16f18b01.jpg.html)

http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m498/DWils01/Sault%20Ste%20Marie/DSC04385_zps9937e03a.jpg (http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/DWils01/media/Sault%20Ste%20Marie/DSC04385_zps9937e03a.jpg.html)

http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m498/DWils01/Sault%20Ste%20Marie/DSC04386_zpsa0bb54bf.jpg (http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/DWils01/media/Sault%20Ste%20Marie/DSC04386_zpsa0bb54bf.jpg.html)
Pictures by me.

[UrbanClimate]

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http://imageshack.us/a/img19/1856/eyxp.jpg

[Tone]

Ste-Foy on July 2nd
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7315/9218699589_7651fc2a03_b.jpg

[FrAnKs]

JD2 is just HUGE compared to other buildings !
Hence we're starting to get a whole new skyline up there :cheers:

[roccerfeller]

Winnipeg:

http://media.winnipegfreepress.com/images/130706_CITY_01_16765985.JPG


source: Winnipeg Free Press

[Shinook]

Winnipeg:

http://media.winnipegfreepress.com/images/130706_CITY_01_16765985.JPG

Man, I just LOVE our dense tree canopy cover in this city! :cheers:

[Nathan]

Man, I just LOVE our dense tree canopy cover in this city! :cheers:

That describes a lot of cities that have established residential areas... as long as the trees that were planted weren't wiped out through infestations (Dutch Elm Disease, etc).

[roccerfeller]

That describes a lot of cities that have established residential areas... as long as the trees that were planted weren't wiped out through infestations (Dutch Elm Disease, etc).

This is true, though for what it's worth Winnipeg apparently has the largest urban elm tree forest in the world (according to some arbourists, and also alluded to in the "may we grow" tree documentary) though I am not sure how accurate that statistic actually is. I do know there are just under 200,000 elms in the city (vs 8 milli trees) and some ~ 40% of the urban trees are all elms. Bluenote might know more about the numbers et al since that's his profession.

Again, it doesn't dissuade what you said nor am implying anything negative, I'm just saying under the context of what Shinook posted. Regina, for example has many stellar urban neighbourhoods with beautiful elm canopies

I too miss the elms of Winnipeg. On the flip side, the mountains out in Calgary make for some stunning scenery too :D

[Tone]

JD2 is just HUGE compared to other buildings !

It has a nice presence from pretty much everywhere on the south shore, especially impressive coming in on the 20 from Montréal in St-Nicolas!

[Shinook]

That describes a lot of cities that have established residential areas... as long as the trees that were planted weren't wiped out through infestations (Dutch Elm Disease, etc).

I know you are trying to debbie down my comment, but I don't really care. I'll say it again: Man, I just LOVE our dense tree canopy cover in Winnipeg! :cheers:

Don't like it? Too bad :)

[Wishblade]

I know you are trying to debbie down my comment, but I don't really care. I'll say it again: Man, I just LOVE our dense tree canopy cover in Winnipeg! :cheers:

Don't like it? Too bad :)

He's not trying to "debbie down" your comment at all. He's really just stating a fact. I've seen photos of many cities across Canada that have a similar tree canopy.

[RyeJay]

He's not trying to "debbie down" your comment at all. He's really just stating a fact. I've seen photos of many cities across Canada that have a similar tree canopy.

True enough. I believe most Canadian cities have decent tree canopies, in certain areas. I love Halifax's, but I wish it had more evergreens, like in Vancouver.

The pictures I've seen of Winnipeg lead to believe their tree canopies are nice as well!

:cheers:

[Shinook]

So I guess what people are trying to brainwash me into believeing is that anytime I make a positive comment about my city (not anyone elses, just mine) I'm going to be continually told that "it's just like everywhere else", you know, so don't bother saying it cause it really doesn't mean anything.

Yeah, I'm not going to buy into that malarchy. I'll say what I want despite the debbie downers, thanks.

Cheers!

[bolognium]

needs more trees

http://i.imgur.com/841V8z7.jpg

[vid]

If most cities have a similar tree canopy to Winnipeg, then Thunder Bay's tree canopy really sucks.

[Nathan]

I know you are trying to debbie down my comment, but I don't really care. I'll say it again: Man, I just LOVE our dense tree canopy cover in Winnipeg! :cheers:

Don't like it? Too bad :)

Like Wishblade said, I'm just stating that most Canadian cities have great tree canopies, it's not something that is particularly unique to Winnipeg (not to say that Winnipeg's isn't fantastic anyway)... and Elm came to mind because Regina and Saskatoon, cities where Elm trees make up a HUGE portion of the tree canopy, are currently battling Dutch Elm Disease infestations that have basically surrounded the cities. Furthermore, it is well known that Dutch Elm Disease destroyed many gorgeous areas all through Eastern North America, it was nothing about Winnipeg specifically.

Also, as Regina and Saskatoon were developed after Winnipeg, a lot of what was done here was done in Winnipeg first, so our cities will be fairly similar in some regards.

Thanks for the classy PM though... reported... :cheers:

[chrisallard5454]

Like Wishblade said, I'm just stating that most Canadian cities have great tree canopies, it's not something that is particularly unique to Winnipeg (not to say that Winnipeg's isn't fantastic anyway)... and Elm came to mind because Regina and Saskatoon, cities where Elm trees make up a HUGE portion of the tree canopy, are currently battling Dutch Elm Disease infestations that have basically surrounded the cities. Furthermore, it is well known that Dutch Elm Disease destroyed many gorgeous areas all through Eastern North America, it was nothing about Winnipeg specifically.

Also, as Regina and Saskatoon were developed after Winnipeg, a lot of what was done here was done in Winnipeg first, so our cities will be fairly similar in some regards.

Thanks for the classy PM though... reported... :cheers:

What you say may be true, but the question is, was your comment necessary? The first thing that popped into my head regarding your response was "Why say that?"

He is proud about his city's canopy, so why post about how it is simply average, in a context that contradicts how it is something to be loved? Roccerfeller, explained the uniqueness behind Winnipeg's Elm Canopy, and it is really something that we, as Winnipeggers can be proud of.

I have seen what other cities have to offer in terms of canopy, and you are right they are all beautiful, but I feel the same as Shinook in that Winnipeg's is somehow unique. It can't be explained.

Regina, Saskatoon, and Edmonton have beautiful Canopies as well. So do the other cities.

In terms of sheer size of Elm coverage though, no city is like Winnipeg, which has the largest urban population of mature Elms.

[chrisallard5454]

Here is an example of what you will find in cities like Winnipeg, Regina, Saskatoon, and Edmonton:

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6200/6026640587_4b69520ae7_z.jpg
This is my picture of Winnipeg.

The thing that sets Winnipeg a part is the sure number of mature Elm trees that it has. Literally every neighbourhood, except for one, that is not a recent subdivision looks like this. Regina, Saskatoon and Edmonton have this as well, but the difference is that in Winnipeg it is harder to find a neighbourhood without canopies like this than it is to find one with it.

Don't get me wrong though, I have seen what Dutch Elm can do, and my greatest fear is that the lack of effort that the city puts into keeping and replanting a proper canopy will leave it like a lot of Eastern cities that have already lost their Canopies.

[Chadillaccc]

That looks gorgeous!

A few areas in the western side in Calgary are like that too. I'll try to get a pic of my street tomorrow, but my cam is quite shitty.

[Nathan]

What you say may be true, but the question is, was your comment necessary? The first thing that popped into my head regarding your response was "Why say that?"

He is proud about his city's canopy, so why post about how it is simply average, in a context that contradicts how it is something to be loved? Roccerfeller, explained the uniqueness behind Winnipeg's Elm Canopy, and it is really something that we, as Winnipeggers can be proud of.

I have seen what other cities have to offer in terms of canopy, and you are right they are all beautiful, but I feel the same as Shinook in that Winnipeg's is somehow unique. It can't be explained.

Regina, Saskatoon, and Edmonton have beautiful Canopies as well. So do the other cities.

In terms of sheer size of Elm coverage though, no city is like Winnipeg, which has the largest urban population of mature Elms.

Probably didn't need to be said, but I mostly said it because it got me thinking that a lot of Canadian cities can be proud of their urban tree canopies, especially when some of those cities were developed on flat treeless parts of the country (Winnipeg, Regina, Saskatoon, Edmonton, etc - don't know enough about the topography of Eastern Canada to know where it could be true there). And nowhere did I say it was average, just that many of us can be proud of our cities' canopies (as displayed by many of the photos in this thread).

And it makes sense that Winnipeg would have the largest stock of Elms, it was the largest city in western Canada during the era when the plantation of Elms was done almost exclusively of all other tree species. It makes for a great look, specifically for the reason they were planted, huge canopies with more minimal lower foliage, but also lead to the devastation of Eastern North America's similar canopies.

In any case, I didn't realize it would be so controversial to point out that it is something many of our cities got right... Similar to how when someone says that Halifax, Regina, Calgary, or Winnipeg (among others) have good/great skylines for cities of their size, someone usually says, "it's something that Canada in general does well". I'll keep my eye out for similar such comments in future and ensure they are pointed out as being insulting toward the city, whose original photo/comment sparked the extra discussion. I'll also avoid discussions about Winnipeg as apparently anything that is a shared quality or some similarity with other Canadian cities steals Winnipeg's thunder and is automatically a debbie downer comment. (This probably also didn't need to be said, but I'm not feeling pariticularly cordial after Shinook's little tantrum - here and through PM).

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One quick question if I may though... Does the Manitoba gov't do much to take out and destroy infected trees surrounding Winnipeg? There was a bit of talk here a while ago that the RMs around Regina and Saskatoon aren't really getting much support from the province and so many trees are not being cleared out, making the odds of Dutch Elm Disease striking Stoon and Regina with more than just a few infected trees every year increase greatly. And it also makes me wonder if it's only a matter of time before the canopies of Western Canada also disappear.

[Simpseatles]

needs more trees

http://i.imgur.com/841V8z7.jpg

:) Nice one! From Scenic View Park in Byron right? That's a great place to admire the skyline from a distance.

[harls]

So I guess what people are trying to brainwash me into believeing is that anytime I make a positive comment about my city (not anyone elses, just mine) I'm going to be continually told that "it's just like everywhere else", you know, so don't bother saying it cause it really doesn't mean anything.

Yeah, I'm not going to buy into that malarchy. I'll say what I want despite the debbie downers, thanks.

Cheers!

What's wrong with your brain, multiple-banned person? Chill out. Go to BDI and chill out.

[chrisallard5454]

Probably didn't need to be said, but I mostly said it because it got me thinking that a lot of Canadian cities can be proud of their urban tree canopies, especially when some of those cities were developed on flat treeless parts of the country (Winnipeg, Regina, Saskatoon, Edmonton, etc - don't know enough about the topography of Eastern Canada to know where it could be true there). And nowhere did I say it was average, just that many of us can be proud of our cities' canopies (as displayed by many of the photos in this thread).

And it makes sense that Winnipeg would have the largest stock of Elms, it was the largest city in western Canada during the era when the plantation of Elms was done almost exclusively of all other tree species. It makes for a great look, specifically for the reason they were planted, huge canopies with more minimal lower foliage, but also lead to the devastation of Eastern North America's similar canopies.

In any case, I didn't realize it would be so controversial to point out that it is something many of our cities got right... Similar to how when someone says that Halifax, Regina, Calgary, or Winnipeg (among others) have good/great skylines for cities of their size, someone usually says, "it's something that Canada in general does well". I'll keep my eye out for similar such comments in future and ensure they are pointed out as being insulting toward the city, whose original photo/comment sparked the extra discussion. I'll also avoid discussions about Winnipeg as apparently anything that is a shared quality or some similarity with other Canadian cities steals Winnipeg's thunder and is automatically a debbie downer comment. (This probably also didn't need to be said, but I'm not feeling pariticularly cordial after Shinook's little tantrum - here and through PM).

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One quick question if I may though... Does the Manitoba gov't do much to take out and destroy infected trees surrounding Winnipeg? There was a bit of talk here a while ago that the RMs around Regina and Saskatoon aren't really getting much support from the province and so many trees are not being cleared out, making the odds of Dutch Elm Disease striking Stoon and Regina with more than just a few infected trees every year increase greatly. And it also makes me wonder if it's only a matter of time before the canopies of Western Canada also disappear.

Honestly there is nothing wrong with what you said. It just seems there could have been an appropriate time to say it. Shinook is very defensive of his city, and can be overly aggressive about it, taking things out of context. Looking back at it, I can see how your comment could be taken either way, and seeing as how Shinook was exclaiming pride, it could have came out as a bit of a negative response to his post, in that he potentially shouldn't be proud of something that is so common. I didn't personally take it like that, but am just explaining how he could have. I have to say though, if in response to his post you had said, "It is something Canada does well", there would be no room for misinterpretation.

People from Winnipeg are used to others bashing it, so they can become overly defensive. They take the rare opportunity to show pride in there city and it is usually shoved back in their faces. I am not at all saying you did that, because you didn't, but Winnipegger's can have a chip on their shoulders.

I definitely agree with you though, Canada in general has something to be proud of in terms of how extensive its canopies are.

In regards to the province, they have always contributed, but as of this year City Council put a budget on the table where they would each pay an equal portion towards Elm Treatment, protection, etc. The province, I believed agreed to it. That was a huge step forward for the city, because it literally resulted in double the funding for the program. Prior to the new funding Winnipeg had (still has) a net loss of between 1000-2000 trees a year. It is really quite sad. There is also the Emerald Ash Borer, and the Oak tree is affected as well. I personally feel that the city should have a 1 for 1 program, where for every felled tree, 1 is replaced. Unfortunately, among other things, some people don't like having to rake leaves in the fall, and actually prefer their yards once the tree dies, so a lot of the time the tree is not replaced.

[chrisallard5454]

Interestingly, people don't understand that a tree can increase your property value by quite a lot.

[Chadillaccc]

It absolutely can. That's why houses in older neighborhoods go for more money (if they're well-kept). People are really starting to desire buying in established neighborhoods over shiney new suburbs. Even in my neighborhood which has a dense canopy, tons of parks, and is very walkable - it's only 30 - 40 years old - but there's never a for-sale sign up for more than two weeks.

[Dwils01]

Hamilton
http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m498/DWils01/Cities%20across%20the%20GTHA/DSC04613_zps00eaf4d3.jpg (http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/DWils01/media/Cities%20across%20the%20GTHA/DSC04613_zps00eaf4d3.jpg.html)

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http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m498/DWils01/Cities%20across%20the%20GTHA/DSC04621_zps1a49660d.jpg (http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/DWils01/media/Cities%20across%20the%20GTHA/DSC04621_zps1a49660d.jpg.html)

http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m498/DWils01/Cities%20across%20the%20GTHA/DSC04625_zps2575305c.jpg (http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/DWils01/media/Cities%20across%20the%20GTHA/DSC04625_zps2575305c.jpg.html)

Pictures by me.

[Symz]

We don't see enough of Hamilton it seems.

:tup:

[Beedok]

We don't see enough of Hamilton it seems.

:tup:

This. Very much.

[vid]

Here is an example of what you will find in cities like Winnipeg, Regina, Saskatoon, and Edmonton:

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6200/6026640587_4b69520ae7_z.jpg
This is my picture of Winnipeg.

The thing that sets Winnipeg a part is the sure number of mature Elm trees that it has. Literally every neighbourhood, except for one, that is not a recent subdivision looks like this. Regina, Saskatoon and Edmonton have this as well, but the difference is that in Winnipeg it is harder to find a neighbourhood without canopies like this than it is to find one with it.

Don't get me wrong though, I have seen what Dutch Elm can do, and my greatest fear is that the lack of effort that the city puts into keeping and replanting a proper canopy will leave it like a lot of Eastern cities that have already lost their Canopies.

There is only one block in Thunder Bay that even looks remotely like this.

Just one single 300 foot long stretch of road.

Actually there is another, half-kilometre stretch of this in the other end of town, so we have two. Two streets that look like this. Out of 1,000 streets. (That sounds like an exaggeration but it's true; Thunder Bay has over 1,000 named streets.) Something like 6,000 blocks, and 3 or 4 of them have tree canopies that look like that.

[Nathan]

There is only one block in Thunder Bay that even looks remotely like this.

Just one single 300 foot long stretch of road.

Actually there is another, half-kilometre stretch of this in the other end of town, so we have two. Two streets that look like this. Out of 1,000 streets. (That sounds like an exaggeration but it's true; Thunder Bay has over 1,000 named streets.) Something like 6,000 blocks, and 3 or 4 of them have tree canopies that look like that.

My street is like this, but I actually like the winter view more than summer. Walking or driving under blocks of hoar-frost laden trees always feels a little magical to me... especially at Christmastime.

[chrisallard5454]

My street is like this, but I actually like the winter view more than summer. Walking or driving under blocks of hoar-frost laden trees always feels a little magical to me... especially at Christmastime.

This!!!!! Yes!!!! I am a winter man, hence the city of my choosing. But hoar frost covered canopies with freshly fallen snow, not yet covered in sand and salt brings with it an amazing feeling.

I grew up into the Harry Potter series, and I have this really happy memory that occurred when I was eleven. I had just finished reading the first book (this was a year or two before the movie had come out yet) and on my way to school I saw a Snowy Owl perched on an Elm, in broad daylight. An amazing thing in and of itself. The cloud was grey, and snow was twinkling down, the light fluffy fat kind. The roads and sidewalks were still sprinkled white, from the fall the night before. And I remember thinking that I could very well be going to Hogwarts... How children dream. I daydreamed about it for the entire trek to school.

That was just a happy memory that I always return to with winters here. Something about fresh snow, hoar covered trees (or even snow covered), and grey skies (which are admittedly rare during Winnipeg's winters) feel so magical to me. Sorry about the diatribe. So many people say that Winters are ugly and bland, I feel the complete opposite.

[Nathan]

This!!!!! Yes!!!! I am a winter man, hence the city of my choosing. But hoar frost covered canopies with freshly fallen snow, not yet covered in sand and salt brings with it an amazing feeling.

I grew up into the Harry Potter series, and I have this really happy memory that occurred when I was eleven. I had just finished reading the first book (this was a year or two before the movie had come out yet) and on my way to school I saw a Snowy Owl perched on an Elm, in broad daylight. An amazing thing in and of itself. The cloud was grey, and snow was twinkling down, the light fluffy fat kind. The roads and sidewalks were still sprinkled white, from the fall the night before. And I remember thinking that I could very well be going to Hogwarts... How children dream. I daydreamed about it for the entire trek to school.

That was just a happy memory that I always return to with winters here. Something about fresh snow, hoar covered trees (or even snow covered), and grey skies (which are admittedly rare during Winnipeg's winters) feel so magical to me. Sorry about the diatribe. So many people say that Winters are ugly and bland, I feel the complete opposite.

It was on its way to deliver my letter. Sorry to get your hopes up.

[vid]

Winter is nice until January. Then it sucks.

[SignalHillHiker]

http://www.newfoundland-photos.com/StJohnsScenes/Spring-Sunsets-in-the-City-of/i-6LpxSqp/0/XL/IMG_7379_edited-L.jpg (http://www.newfoundland-photos.com/StJohnsScenes/Spring-Sunsets-in-the-City-of/29306061_M2MWhg#!i=2627088018&k=6LpxSqp&lb=1&s=A)

http://www.newfoundland-photos.com/StJohnsScenes/St-Johns-Memorial-Day-2013/i-J6r4qTm/0/XL/IMG_7313_edited-L.jpg (http://www.newfoundland-photos.com/StJohnsScenes/St-Johns-Memorial-Day-2013/30295989_pHRTZR#!i=2608937283&k=J6r4qTm&lb=1&s=A)

[Tone]

Rimouski 2night
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5455/9286175993_4d98ccd105_k.jpg

[FrAnKs]

Signal will like that Sherbrooke view :D

[SignalHillHiker]

:haha: I love Rimouski.