The Great Canadian Skyline thread for CMAs 1 million and under

[Nouvellecosse]

But who can really explain taste? Regina has a pretty cool skyline that exists in a context that's about as different from Halifax's as you can get. Totally flat, no water, visible from a very long distance. In terms of modernity, I'm guessing he meant street level, which would be true. Downtown Halifax is mostly very old streetscapes with some modern buildings. Regina is basically the opposite if I remember correctly.

On the flip side, (East) Spring Garden is worth checking out, for those into more "contemporary" urban areas. Modern wouldn't be a very good word for it, it's more of a mashup of early 20th century and wacky post-Y2K po-mo, coming together in a way that I haven't really seen anywhere else in Canada. Streetview doesn't really do it justice; I'll try to get some pics.

I don't see how he could have meant street level as that would be irrelevant to a skyline comparison. As far as taste, it isn't the issue of personal taste that's in question (ie finding one thing more beautiful or attractive than another), it's the attempt to use objective characteristics (height, size, density, age etc.) to "measure" if you will, the quality of different skylines and getting those characteristics wrong.

[SignalHillHiker]

...it's the attempt to use objective characteristics (height, size, density, age etc.) to "measure" if you will, the quality of different skylines and getting those characteristics wrong.

:haha: That cracked me up. Like my comment about Saint John having grander architecture than Halifax. I was convinced theirs was a floor taller on average than yours.

[Hali87]

I don't see how he could have meant street level as that would be irrelevant to a skyline comparison. As far as taste, it isn't the issue of personal taste that's in question (ie finding one thing more beautiful or attractive than another), it's the attempt to use objective characteristics (height, size, density, age etc.) to "measure" if you will, the quality of different skylines and getting those characteristics wrong.

It seems foolish to me to try to rank skylines as being "objectively better" than other ones. Ultimately it really is the issue of personal taste that's in question. What's the point of determining which city has the best skyline "on paper" when the actual enjoyment of a skyline's characteristics is completely subjective and personal? Metrics like building heights and # of buildings above X height ignore things like architectural style and detail, relationship of buildings, context, topography, etc, which are all factors that can't be abstracted out in real life.

[middeljohn]

Like I said, Halifax and Regina are about even in my rankings, I gave Regina the edge. On a different day I may have given Halifax the edge. Objectively Halifax is taller, however Regina looks denser. Further, there seems to be a higher percentage of condos/apartment buildings that make up Halifax's skyline, which I don't find nearly as appealing as well built office tower.

It's just my opinion of that one day though. I don't know why you're taking it so personally.

[Chadillaccc]

Oh shit, I didn't realize you guys were having an argument about Regina vs. Halifax. If I knew, I wouldn't have posted that skyline pic just yet. If that aided to fuel the flames of this debate, I apologize.

[Hali87]

Further, there seems to be a higher percentage of condos/apartment buildings that make up Halifax's skyline, which I don't find nearly as appealing as well built office tower.

Which begs the question, why did you put Hamilton at #1? Haha

This is what you get for making a list.

[Hali87]

Oh shit, I didn't realize you guys were having an argument about Regina vs. Halifax. If I knew, I wouldn't have posted that skyline pic just yet. If that aided to fuel the flames of this debate, I apologize.

Nothing wrong with a little context.

[GlassCity]

Which begs the question, why did you put Hamilton at #1? Haha

This is what you get for making a list.

It's subjective! :P

But I agree, I don't think I've ever saved a Hamilton photo :uhh:

[middeljohn]

Which begs the question, why did you put Hamilton at #1? Haha

This is what you get for making a list.

Haha, it's more of a personal bias if I'm going to be completely honest.

Hamilton kind of looks like a Brazilian city in terms of its towers.

[Chadillaccc]

Here's a pretty sweet one of Halifax too, just for context.


http://www.governinggood.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Halifax-waterfront2.jpg
http://www.governinggood.ca/about/


In my opinion, Halifax has the benefit on an ocean front and large bridges so it is unfair to compare.

[GlassCity]

For me Purdy's Wharf just steals the show

[Chadillaccc]

Me as well.

[SignalHillHiker]

My favourite one in Halifax is that old one just left of centre.

Purdy's Wharf is cool, though. And it's aging well. Looks a little like spacesuits for alien octopus invaders, but it's good.

[Hali87]

The Aliant Building? (The one that looks like a giant waffle?) Or the one with the flag on top?

Purdy's Wharf is an example of the difference that context can make. I doubt the towers would look nearly as good if they were far from the water, for example. Otherwise they're just a couple of fairly basic glass boxes. The white "bracing" holds pipes that form a "hydrothermal" system (not sure if that's the correct word, but basically geothermal-using-water). I've always liked how much Purdy's Wharf is such an integral part of Halifax's modern identity - the complex is still very young in east coast terms but it's hard for my generation to imagine the city without it, just as much as the Citadel or Grand Parade.

[middeljohn]

One London Place would look fantastic in Halifax if it were right by the water.

[Dwils01]

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3539/13089082664_a70368f29b_z.jpg



I knew I've seen that CIBC building before and I finally figured out that it's in Sim City 4.

[kwoldtimer]

Regina Saskatchewan


http://www.reginacondo.com/wp-content/uploads/regina-skyline.jpg
http://www.reginacondo.com/contact/regina-skyline/

And the "Chunky Monkey Skyline Award" goes to..... Regina! :cheers:

[someone123]

Few pics to illustrate what I was talking about re: Spring Garden:

Halifax is actually fairly unique in that it is an older city that saw a protracted period of economic stagnation in the early 20th century followed by lots of downtown development afterwards. As you've pointed out there's also a lot of urban infill happening right now and it's producing a pretty unique aesthetic. There are plenty of prettier mid-sized or small older cities but most of them have kind of ossified.

I used to think Spring Garden Road was OK; fairly busy but kind of shabby and low-slung. The parking lots behind the little commercial buildings on the south side of the street looked like something out of a small town. Today it's becoming more layered and interesting, and the commercial areas are extending out in a couple of directions. I can imagine "Spring Garden Road" one day referring to the stretch between Barrington and Robie, not just Barrington to South Park.

[Nouvellecosse]

Like I said, Halifax and Regina are about even in my rankings, I gave Regina the edge. On a different day I may have given Halifax the edge. Objectively Halifax is taller, however Regina looks denser. Further, there seems to be a higher percentage of condos/apartment buildings that make up Halifax's skyline, which I don't find nearly as appealing as well built office tower.

It's just my opinion of that one day though. I don't know why you're taking it so personally.

I don't recall seeing anyone make anything personal. The discussion has never strayed away from the skylines and their respective characteristics. :shrug:

[thefourthtower]

I have never been to Halifax it looks like an amazing beautiful city , with an awesome skyline , the city of Halifax has twice as many people as does the Queen City , that Queen City has an amazing skyline an it's getting better every year, it ceases to amaze me with all the scrapers that were built and are planned over the past next few years , so it's unfair to Judge the two in my humble option , long live the Queen City

[thomax]

This is an awesome shot of Hamilton. Tower 1 of the new City Square condos can be seen right in the middle of the photo. Also, the Toronto and Burlington skylines can be seen in the background on the right, and the Mississauga skyline can be seen peeking out from behind the Stelco tower...
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3676/8754848151_6448ae39b0_b.jpg
flickr.com - flaviej (http://www.flickr.com/photos/flaviej/8754848151/sizes/l/)

Larger Size:
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3676/8754848151_4866c6bbf2_o.jpg
flickr.com - flaviej (http://www.flickr.com/photos/flaviej/8754848151/sizes/l/)

[bolognium]

http://i.imgur.com/QQlrkFK.jpg

[Dylan Leblanc]

a slice of Victoria

http://gingert.net/images/victoria-2014.03.12-01.jpg

[Chadillaccc]

Wow Promontory actually looks pretty good and tall in that pic! Awesome. Heading out to Vancouver for a week in April, hoping to be able to get out to Victoria for a day.

[ssiguy]

That's a nice shot of London. Considering London only has 500,000 metro, it really does punch above it's weight in terms of both density and height.

[Jeff]

pegcity from tonight:

https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/1535004_10151924922836423_1297986571_n.jpg

[MolsonExport]

Regina Saskatchewan


http://www.reginacondo.com/wp-content/uploads/regina-skyline.jpg
http://www.reginacondo.com/contact/regina-skyline/

Just great. Suggestive of a much larger city.


London suffers from having the downtown in the low-point of a bowl. There are few good vantage points. It also has the effect of making the skyline appear 'shorter' than it would otherwise be.

[middeljohn]

Just great. Suggestive of a much larger city.


London suffers from having the downtown in the low-point of a bowl. There are few good vantage points. It also has the effect of making the skyline appear 'shorter' than it would otherwise be.

I have five favourite views of London's skyline. In no particular order:
1. The Adelaide overpass
2. The Quebec St overpass
3. The view as you drive towards downtown on Springbank Dr
4. The intersection of William and York
5. The Western Fair pedestrian bridge

An honourable mention is when you drive south on Richmond towards downtown, only because of how One London seems to loom over the city.

[MolsonExport]

^another good shot is from the Wortley rd. overpass at Horton st. Also, from the new bridge on Sarnia just west of Aldersbrook. And, Pill Hill (north of Masonville) has great views. The problem with the views from the east is that they are dominated by some really unfortunate-looking residential towers from the seventies.

[Dmajackson]

The "North Downtown" area of Halifax as seen from Dartmouth;

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3762/13170747033_e763597f62_h.jpg
Photo by Dmajackson a.k.a. Urban_Halifax on Flickr.com (http://www.flickr.com/photos/urban_halifax/)

[FrAnKs]

March 15th 2014 - Taken by me

http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/809793IMG5402.jpg
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/899894IMG5410.jpg
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/612882IMG5411.jpg
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http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/483968IMG5414.jpg
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/213694IMG5415.jpg

[MolsonExport]

^thanks for the uncommon vantage points of a lovely city.

[FrAnKs]

^thanks for the uncommon vantage points of a lovely city.

Thanks ! My pleasure.

You can take a look to my other pictures here : http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=168633&page=10

[SkydivePilot]

Regina Saskatchewan


http://www.reginacondo.com/wp-content/uploads/regina-skyline.jpg
http://www.reginacondo.com/contact/regina-skyline/

The three blue-glass buildings in the center were originally to be taller than they are now. :(

[UrbanClimate]

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-PavCu8B5rAE/UyVYUhm1QGI/AAAAAAAAADo/se69cOd5DJ0/w760-h474-no/city-of-regina-winter2.jpg
Source: http://globalnews.ca/news

[SkydivePilot]

Very nice shot of Regina, thank you! :)

[A4Regina]

Another one of regina from the Regina Revitalization Initiative (new stadium) website. The two cranes in front are for new condo towers that are almost complete.

http://www.reginarevitalization.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/slide1_10.jpg
http://www.reginarevitalization.ca/

[Beedok]

I wished I'd had time to explore Regina when I was out there.

[bolognium]

http://i.imgur.com/44SuxmP.jpg

[Chadillaccc]

Unbelievable shot of Winnpeg posted by Headhorse.


http://i.imgur.com/hGd1w46.jpg
photo by Julien2223 from http://www.reddit.com/r/Winnipeg/comments/20smkm/picture_i_took_of_our_city_during_a_flight_and/

[north 42]

^
I love the grid patterns!

[OTSkyline]

Nice shot! But unfortunately just shows how little of a downtown Winnipeg has outside Portage...

I mean, this almost looks like Regina or Saskatoon (cities a quarter of Winnip's size).

[Chadillaccc]

I'm not sure I'd agree. It's the perspective. You're looking at a hawks-eye view of the entire city. Downtown cores always appear small in globular cities like Winnipeg, Edmonton, Regina, Calgary, etc when you're looking at them from a far out, wide angle perspective. It's surrounded on all sides by miles and miles of SFH urbanity and suburbanity. From this view, Winnipeg's downtown is halfway to the horizon, and it's tallest buildings, the tallest of any city under 1 million, are barely noticeable. Also, Regina is 1/3 Winnipeg's size, and Saskatoon is 2/5.

[middeljohn]

Downtown cores for all cities are a small percentage of the city's total land. Not just Winnipeg. Like Chad said, that pic basically shows the entire city.

[SignalHillHiker]

Shows most of the core - however, that shows nothing close to all the city. It goes on forever, with a comparable level of density.

I felt like I lived pretty much downtown and my place was still WAY off-screen on the right side of this photo.

[thebasketballgeek]

You can`t even see southern Winnipeg after osborne and corydon areas but you can see almost all of northern Winnipeg. Hopefully if the skycity centre (proposed new tallest) ends up getting built than hopefully portage and main will not dominate the skyline as much

[franktko]

Unbelievable shot of Winnpeg posted by Headhorse.

Great shot! :cheers:

[headhorse]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjSge9yCQAAHmj1.jpg:large
from winnipegphotos.ca

[headhorse]

http://www.winnipegphotos.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/130728_WPG_Balloon_9807.jpg
from winnipegphotos.ca

[headhorse]

http://www.winnipegphotos.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Winnipeg_From_Above_9633.jpg
from winnipegphotos.ca

[thebasketballgeek]

Great Winnipeg shot. I really want to imagine what that skyline would look like if Osborne had more highrises, or Winnipeg having even half the amount of parking lots filled with highrises

[FrAnKs]

http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/543570304.jpg
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/bballandephotographe/8454623119/sizes/h/in/set-72157632712786585/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bballandephotographe/8455671738/sizes/h/in/set-72157632712786585/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bballandephotographe/8455761216/sizes/h/in/set-72157632712786585/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bballandephotographe/8455758438/sizes/h/in/set-72157632712786585/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bballandephotographe/8455757134/sizes/h/in/set-72157632712786585/

[FrAnKs]

And I had no clue the landscape around Quebec City was so beautiful.

Yes it is. Thats why I moved here from Montréal. I just totaly fell in love with the greater Québec city.

From flatlands on the South shore, cliffs along both north & South shore, wonderful architeture and history, a majestic estuary wich is the beginning of the sea and mountains over 1000meters just north of the city. It's just perfect for me.

If you want to see more of the city & area , then check it out :
nttBVyi75sY

[Chadillaccc]

Headhorse, when I saw those Winnipeg shots, I literally said "Holy shit!" out loud. Good job!

[Dr Awesomesauce]

Best Winnipeg aerials I've ever seen.

[drto]

I wish there was a thread dedicated solely to aerial shots. Downtowns, river valleys, urban sprawl, escarpments, freeway patterns, you name it!

[FrAnKs]

Good idea !

[Chadillaccc]

An amazing Winnipeg collection...


http://www.winnipegphotos.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/130728_WPG_Balloon_9807.jpg
http://www.winnipegphotos.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Winnipeg_From_Above_9633.jpg
from winnipegphotos.ca
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjSge9yCQAAHmj1.jpg:large
from winnipegphotos.ca
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/1157474_10151789555715513_958939749_n.jpg
https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/1380332_10151900591690513_1385368164_n.jpg
https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/578116_10151984815510513_1527381095_n.jpg
https://www.facebook.com/canadianmuseumforhumanrights

[Dylan Leblanc]

photo by Jeff Baarda for the Spot the Promontory contest

http://vibrantvictoria.ca/forum/uploads/monthly_03_2014/post-3-0-97724900-1395641519.jpg
http://vibrantvictoria.ca/forum/index.php?/topic/4817-spot-the-promontory-photo-contest-1000-in-prizes/

[Wishblade]

The southern end of the Halifax skyline taken last year by me:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1600x1200q90/571/un51.jpg

[Nathan]

Corner of Scarth and Victoria in downtown Regina:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjgxGFBCQAAqzOf.jpg

Source = Adrian Halter's Twitter Feed (https://twitter.com/adrianhalter/status/448162143414665216)

[vincefort]

3 pictures from Sherbrooke taken this morning, pretty cold around here for the 24th of March. Notice the crane in the first pic, 12 stories building coming out of the ground soon :cheers:

http://i61.tinypic.com/33kpzl1.jpg

http://i58.tinypic.com/35k0ink.jpg

http://i57.tinypic.com/5bbjpu.jpg

[roccerfeller]

Wow!! Very nice shots last couple page, those Winnipeg shots are absolutely fantastic. I really like the one with the orange sky. Fantastic. Hopefully the next few towers that are going up currently changes things a bit.

Also hope that new tallest gets built, will be nice to have some height elsewhere downtown other than the Portage & Main towers / Fort garry.

Nice shot! But unfortunately just shows how little of a downtown Winnipeg has outside Portage...

I mean, this almost looks like Regina or Saskatoon (cities a quarter of Winnip's size).

Well, to be fair Winnipeg's downtown is very spread out. It actually has one of the largest areas for a downtown in Canada...approximately 3 square kilometers, and that does not include Osbourne or west end or anything "additional" being factored into that.

By comparison, Ottawa and Calgary both have an official downtown area of approximately 1.2-1.3 sq km each. Downtown Edmonton about 2.3 square km.

Winnipeg downtown might not be very dense (and it isn't) but its really spread out and very "square-ish" in area.

[Chadillaccc]

Hmmm, I dunno about that. You're only talking about our downtown commercial core with 1.3 sq. km. Contiguous parts of downtown other than the CBD include Chinatown (0.2 sq. km), Eau Claire (0.4 sq. km), and Prince's Island Park (0.2 sq. km) totalling around 2.2 sq. km. and the Beltline is definitely part of our downtown, not just "part of the inner city" at 2.2 sq. km, for a grand total downtown area of 4.4 sq. km. Not sure about Ottawa, but there is certainly more to their downtown then their commercial core, just as there is to Winnipeg's and Edmonton's.

[middeljohn]

Wow!! Very nice shots last couple page, those Winnipeg shots are absolutely fantastic. I really like the one with the orange sky. Fantastic. Hopefully the next few towers that are going up currently changes things a bit.

Also hope that new tallest gets built, will be nice to have some height elsewhere downtown other than the Portage & Main towers / Fort garry.



Well, to be fair Winnipeg's downtown is very spread out. It actually has one of the largest areas for a downtown in Canada...approximately 3 square kilometers, and that does not include Osbourne or west end or anything "additional" being factored into that.

By comparison, Ottawa and Calgary both have an official downtown area of approximately 1.2-1.3 sq km each. Downtown Edmonton about 2.3 square km.

Winnipeg downtown might not be very dense (and it isn't) but its really spread out and very "square-ish" in area.

I've tried looking for those stats before for Canadian and American cities before. What source do you use for those values, or did you calculate it yourself?

[Mr.Wolf]

That Winnipeg's orange sky picture is just spectacular.

[Ramako]

Here's a webcam view from today. The TD crane is now a couple of segments taller:

http://imageshack.com/a/img36/8418/9rts.jpg
Source (ilovens.ca)

I love how Halifax's downtown is built right up to the water, just like lower Manhattan or Hong Kong. That makes it look like a city of over a million people.

[roccerfeller]

Hmmm, I dunno about that. You're only talking about our downtown commercial core with 1.3 sq. km. Contiguous parts of downtown other than the CBD include Chinatown (0.2 sq. km), Eau Claire (0.4 sq. km), and Prince's Island Park (0.2 sq. km) totalling around 2.2 sq. km. and the Beltline is definitely part of our downtown, not just "part of the inner city" at 2.2 sq. km, for a grand total downtown area of 4.4 sq. km. Not sure about Ottawa, but there is certainly more to their downtown then their commercial core, just as there is to Winnipeg's and Edmonton's.

I could be wrong about the actual data. I did mean what the city legally defines as downtown (as per the CDA). Otherwise downtown is purely subjective. Its like how to many people Winnipeg downtown is just the portage & main and south portage area, which itself is small relative to the legally defined borders (for example the exchange, forks, chinatown, central park, colony area just to name a few are part of downtown winnipeg)

Calgary downtown is bordered by Bow River to the north (so yes you're right to include Eau Claire & China town) and 9th Ave to the south (so beltline is officially not part of downtown, just as in Winnipeg osbourne, which is basically a short bridge away from the core, is also not included) and its 9 St SW to 3 st SE length-wise. Google maps draws downtown Calgary larger, going to 14st Sw all the way to basically the end of 9th ave before the bridge into inglewood

I would say thats stretching it a bit, as I drive down 14th St SW almost every day. Its on the fringe, and there are still city centre signs on 14th st sw (just like including west broadway in downtown winnipeg, which it isn't according to city zoning; further osbourne isn't part of downtown winnipeg either so those osbourne towers aren't technically in downtown even though they show up on the skyline, the human rights museum is technically more a part of downtown than they are! strange eh)

The core of Calgary downtown is already defined by the city, legally as per the Calgary Downtown Association (and has been since 1988...perhaps those boundaries are now a bit archaic :haha: I may agree with you there to an extent) as I feel the east and west ends are becoming more and more associated with the core as development spreads out.


I've tried looking for those stats before for Canadian and American cities before. What source do you use for those values, or did you calculate it yourself?

I referred to Wikipedia, truthfully.

There is a member on this site named chrisallard who did a very, very detailed and in depth boundary of all of Winnipeg's neighbourhoods. He was very good at figuring out areas, and if he was on he could certainly help out with more calculated numbers. The area he defined is essentially what the city of Winnipeg defines as "legally" downtown (https://maps.google.ca/maps/ms?msid=208857001764473287852.0004a57cefbcc251aa7d3&msa=0&ll=49.920283,-97.139397&spn=0.062336,0.154324&dg=feature) is his map

He is really great at figuring this stuff out, but doesn't frequent SSP much anymore.

[Chadillaccc]

The Beltline is part of downtown Calgary. Osbourne isn't comparable as it only has one connection to downtown Winnipeg, while the Beltline is completely contiguous, having five direct underpass connections and one grade connection. Heck, the Beltline alone has the office space of a major city at around 10 million sq. ft. And a population coming up on 20 000. That is akin to saying the Southcore/harbourfront of Toronto isn't part of downtown. Osborne is akin to Mission, or Kensington, which most people still consider part of downtown, but they are removed enough that they can be considered a separate entity.

My overall point though, is that Winnipeg most certainly does not have a significantly larger downtown relative to other large cities just because the City of Winnipeg chooses to delineate the borders a different way.

[Drybrain]

The Beltline is part of downtown Calgary. Osbourne isn't comparable as it only has one connection to downtown Winnipeg, while the Beltline is completely contiguous, having five direct underpass connections and one grade connection. Heck, the Beltline alone has the office space of a major city at around 10 million sq. ft. And a population coming up on 20 000. That is akin to saying the Southcore/harbourfront of Toronto isn't part of downtown. Osborne is akin to Mission, or Kensington, which most people still consider part of downtown, but they are removed enough that they can be considered a separate entity.


I'll admit I've always considered the Beltline to be a distinct neighbourhood from downtown--directly adjacent to it, but separate, with the rail line along 9th Avenue delineating the "bottom" of downtown. (Rather than consider it like Toronto's South Core, I'd liken it to King or Queen Street, west of University--no longer "downtown," but a very central neighbourhood often referred to as "downtown.)

The Beltline has a growing amount of office uses, making the northern parts of it a bit more downtown-y, but they're still separate areas--in my head, anyway.

That's unlike Eau Claire and Chinatown, which feel like parts of downtown.

[koops65]

Taken by me, this afternoon:
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2827/13409906933_a5619edc9a_o.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/11485387@N04/13409906933/)

[GlassCity]

Well the City of Vancouver doesn't consider the West End to be downtown, although many consider it to be. It's completely arbitrary and really not a big deal

[roccerfeller]

The Beltline is part of downtown Calgary. Osbourne isn't comparable as it only has one connection to downtown Winnipeg, while the Beltline is completely contiguous, having five direct underpass connections and one grade connection. Heck, the Beltline alone has the office space of a major city at around 10 million sq. ft. And a population coming up on 20 000. That is akin to saying the Southcore/harbourfront of Toronto isn't part of downtown. Osborne is akin to Mission, or Kensington, which most people still consider part of downtown, but they are removed enough that they can be considered a separate entity.

My overall point though, is that Winnipeg most certainly does not have a significantly larger downtown relative to other large cities just because the City of Winnipeg chooses to delineate the borders a different way.

I think we are just looking at it from two different perspectives. You raise a good point though in bringing the Toronto example up. The beltline certainly feels like an extension of the downtown core when you go through it. There is lots of office activity and height there as well. Also, the beltline is considered a part of "Calgary City Centre" - officially, which the City of Calgary recognizes. So that supports your point too.

But where I was coming from was more the description of what each city legally claims as zoned downtown boundaries. What the City of Winnipeg chooses to label its downtown is larger than the zone specifically defined as downtown Calgary. They do distinguish "downtown" from the beltline, and in some cases even from Eau Clare, east & west ends and chinatown too. (Which is why I said the city may need to re-check their definition). Winnipeg's zone is so big for a city its size, because back in the day I think city officials of that time thought Winnipeg would also be larger. At least, that's my thought on why its so spread out.

But really, what's the difference between "downtown" and "city centre"? they seem like interchangeable words to me. I was just being overly specific, and might be coming off as a bit of a twad over the internet with the focus on the schematics but I don't mean to be like that exactly - just a clarification as to where I was coming from.


And on that note, everyone coming into this thread expecting new images relevant to the thread title are probably cursing my username right about now :haha: so I won't clarify any further.

[ScreamingViking]

The latest Tim Hortons Field construction pics contain a view of Hamilton's skyline from inside the structure. This angle doesn't get displayed as much as others.

http://cfl.uploads.mrx.ca/ham/images/photo_gallery/2014/03/crop_20176130520.jpg
Source page (http://www.ticats.ca/photo_gallery/gallery/id/11713)

[davidivivid]

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3014/3101705206_0ff7866bba_o.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/57609464@N00/3101705206/)
2008_10_12 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/57609464@N00/3101705206/) par ccpoirier (https://www.flickr.com/people/57609464@N00/), sur Flickr

[thomax]

Here's some shots of Hamilton I took last weekend when I was testing the camera on my new phone. They turned out pretty good considering I was about 7 kilometers from downtown. I took them from the Old Guelph Road lookout...

http://i57.tinypic.com/2nw1qpv.jpg
Source: My Photo

Larger Size:
http://i57.tinypic.com/f9fw4i.jpg
Source: My Photo



http://i58.tinypic.com/345bul1.jpg
Source: My Photo

Larger Size:
http://i58.tinypic.com/mtmgjl.jpg
Source: My Photo

[Chadillaccc]

Yellowknife, Northwest Territories

http://traveltrade.spectacularnwt.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/highres-lightbox/city-aerials-380.jpg
http://traveltrade.spectacularnwt.com/packages/other-packages

[Beedok]

If only all our cities could have that level of skyline proportionately.

[SkydivePilot]

Great pic of Yellowknife!!! :tup:

[Chadillaccc]

Another beauty...


http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get2/I0000Vh1Co7Xcbrg/fit=1000x750/Yellowknife-Aerial-2009-010.jpg
http://robertwilson.photoshelter.com/image/I0000Vh1Co7Xcbrg

[FrAnKs]

How is summer in Yellowknife ?

[Chadillaccc]

Average high of 9.7 in May, 18.1 in June, 21.3 in July, 18.1 in August, 10.4 in September.
Daily mean of 4.6 in May, 13.3 in June, 17 in July, 14.2 in August, 7.2 in September.

Daylight lasts for 20 hours during the summer. It has a dry subarctic climate (warmer than most subarctic), and is the sunniest city in the entire country during summer (summer only), averaging 1034 hours of sun between June and August.

[davidivivid]

http://gohelico.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Spring-Gohelico-Tours.jpg
http://gohelico.com/

[SignalHillHiker]

Yellowknife turns into residential even faster than we do.

[SignalHillHiker]

Daylight lasts for 20 hours during the summer. It has a dry subarctic climate (warmer than most subarctic), and is the sunniest city in the entire country during summer (summer only), averaging 1034 hours of sun between June and August.

That's almost as much as we get all year. :haha:

[Innsertnamehere]

That helicopter is really badly shopped into that photo, I mean come on, they aren't even trying there.

[advance62]

The core of Kitchener's Skyline

April 23:

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2896/13990754334_7ed13be5d8_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/njjgQj)Sunset Skyline (https://flic.kr/p/njjgQj) by Matt M S (https://www.flickr.com/people/76231536@N05/), on Flickr

[Architype]

Yellowknife turns into residential even faster than we do.

It's population is about the same as Paradise NL, or slightly larger than Grand Falls-Windsor. I suspect that the number of high rise apartments reflects a highly transient population.

[MolsonExport]

Yellowknife, Northwest Territories

http://traveltrade.spectacularnwt.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/highres-lightbox/city-aerials-380.jpg
http://traveltrade.spectacularnwt.com/packages/other-packages

Nice, but looks more like a green and blue fork.

[Chadillaccc]

It's population is about the same as Paradise NL, or slightly larger than Grand Falls-Windsor. I suspect that the number of high rise apartments reflects a highly transient population.

I don't think Yellowknife has much of a transient population. If it did, its population would fluctuate wildly during boom and bust cycles, which it doesn't really. All of the large mines are very far from the city and have their own camp accommodations for their workers. That said, I'm sure there is of course some transient population in Yellowknife, just not a significant portion of the population.

[advance62]

Another from last night:

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7086/13996909214_69abd693c7_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/njRPsW)Dusk Skyline (https://flic.kr/p/njRPsW) by Matt M S (https://www.flickr.com/people/76231536@N05/), on Flickr

[koops65]

Nice to see multiple cranes in downtown Kitchener. :cheers:

[advance62]

Nice to see multiple cranes in downtown Kitchener. :cheers:

Couldn't agree more! The tallest is City Centre 1, the shorter on the left is One Victoria and the far right is Barrel-yards, Waterloo

[Dr Awesomesauce]

Some height coming to Kitchener would be great!

[Chadillaccc]

Great shots of Kitchener lately, Advance! Really!

[Chadillaccc]

Don't know if these shots of Victoria have been posted before, but here they are...


http://m5.i.pbase.com/o6/41/18541/1/76359505.WOl7x621.VictoriaMountBaker.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/image/76359505
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_gPn1jPj3mjI/TD_XnYfYjMI/AAAAAAAAEMc/xjBca4yTIZg/s1600/DSC09322dawn.JPG
http://victoriadailyphoto.blogspot.ca/2010_07_01_archive.html

[SignalHillHiker]

First one is awesome. Same mountain in the background of some VC shots, right?

[middeljohn]

My God, that first shot of Victoria is amazing! In a lot of ways I think that Victoria is somewhat forgotten about in the ROC which is really sad. It really looks like a fantastic place to see. Hopefully I can get there in the next few months.

[Chadillaccc]

It certainly is underrated, and it is so rarely seen even here or in national media, and people generally know so little about it. It is a stunning city and has amazing history. The historic bones could compete with any others in Canada, with many buildings from the 1880s and 90s. In that respect, it's very unique among Western cities.

[SignalHillHiker]

Yeah, it definitely doesn't get enough attention.

Our St. John's SSP crowd hears about it more often than usual because Ayreonaut has spent a lot of time there and loves it. He's always pointing out little things we could change for the better based on examples from Victoria, so they're clearly doing things really well.

The one thing that confuses me about B.C.: they get lots of rain, but they have an outdoor, big clear skies, prairie culture. They don't have that foggy, indoor, food-and-drink-and-get-together culture you find in the Maritimes, Newfoundland, Ireland, the U.K., etc. and other famously wet and miserable places.