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madog222
Mar 30, 2021, 4:54 AM
Did they not have lions on the podium of the south side as well?

I did a little googling and found this picture. Not the same lions as on the front, looks like simple metal sculptures or possibly large lamps.
HSBC Canada Building across Georgia under construction would date this ~1985.

http://hereelsewhere.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/vag2.gif
Photo from Here Elsewhere (http://hereelsewhere.com/fav_see/vancouver-art-gallery/)

TwoFace
Mar 30, 2021, 5:33 AM
I did a little googling and found this picture. Not the same lions as on the front, looks like simple metal sculptures or possibly large lamps.
HSBC Canada Building across Georgia under construction would date this ~1985.

http://hereelsewhere.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/vag2.gif
Photo from Here Elsewhere (http://hereelsewhere.com/fav_see/vancouver-art-gallery/)

Yes, I guess it was always a flat podium.

jollyburger
Mar 30, 2021, 6:49 AM
It just looks like a metal sculpture:

https://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/courthouse-800-west-georgia-street-5

Someone set off dynamite behind one of the lions on the Georgia side in 1942:

https://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/side-view-showing-damage-to-lion-statue-on-courthouse-steps

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/42134565/courthouse-bomb/

TwoFace
Mar 30, 2021, 2:07 PM
It just looks like a metal sculpture:

https://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/courthouse-800-west-georgia-street-5

Someone set off dynamite behind one of the lions on the Georgia side in 1942:

https://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/side-view-showing-damage-to-lion-statue-on-courthouse-steps

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/42134565/courthouse-bomb/

Let's hope they re-install the sculpture or whatever it was :tup:

officedweller
Mar 30, 2021, 10:23 PM
I don;t think they've been there for a while.
My guess is that it's a climbing risk.

trofirhen
Mar 31, 2021, 12:20 AM
Let's hope they re-install the sculpture or whatever it was :tup:
Yes, I find the bare stairway podiums sort of 'incomplete' and 'raw.' Not necessarily lions, but the 'lanterns' or perhaps an elegant designed glass or metal structure each side would do it.

TwoFace
Mar 31, 2021, 12:27 AM
Yes, I find the bare stairway podiums sort of 'incomplete' and 'raw.' Not necessarily lions, but the 'lanterns' or perhaps an elegant designed glass or metal structure each side would do it.

jlousa should have some inside information on what will be done there, I believe he works for the City or has.

Vin
Mar 31, 2021, 10:23 PM
I did a little googling and found this picture. Not the same lions as on the front, looks like simple metal sculptures or possibly large lamps.
HSBC Canada Building across Georgia under construction would date this ~1985.

http://hereelsewhere.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/vag2.gif
Photo from Here Elsewhere (http://hereelsewhere.com/fav_see/vancouver-art-gallery/)

Even the roofs looked so much better back then. Now the east side of the Art Gallery has an extremely ugly permanent tarped tent.

mcminsen
Apr 5, 2021, 12:54 AM
:tup:



April 4 '21, my pic
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1600x1200q90/924/DcEvXx.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poDcEvXxj)

Marshal
Apr 5, 2021, 7:39 AM
Thanks for all the great photos across many threads mcminsen. They are a Covid help. I still get into my office 3X a week, but don't get out to walk around like I used to.

C3YVR
Jun 25, 2021, 12:53 AM
While walking through Robson Square today and having Apple Stores on the brain, I remembered visiting the Milan Apple Store. Like UBC, it sits below grade and you can enter though a glass cube or down some exterior steps. I then also remembered seeing a proposal for a new UBC entry where the stainless steel UBC sign now sits, but I can't remember where I saw it, or what ever became of it?
Link to the Milan Apple Store design:

https://www.aureliotomasso.com/en/apple-store-milan/

officedweller
Jun 25, 2021, 1:00 AM
Isn't that what Henriquez wanted for the space below the Telus Garden plaza that Henriquez ended up occupying?

jollyburger
Jun 25, 2021, 2:01 AM
While walking through Robson Square today and having Apple Stores on the brain, I remembered visiting the Milan Apple Store. Like UBC, it sits below grade and you can enter though a glass cube or down some exterior steps. I then also remembered seeing a proposal for a new UBC entry where the stainless steel UBC sign now sits, but I can't remember where I saw it, or what ever became of it?
Link to the Milan Apple Store design:

https://www.aureliotomasso.com/en/apple-store-milan/

They were just exploring a propsal by Stantec for a new glass entrance:

https://www.aubreycliftontucker.com/projects-1/2018/4/21/robson-square-ubc-student-entrance

UDP meeting on the proposal:

https://vancouver.ca/files/cov/committees/minutes-urban-design-panel-20150415.pdf

Seems like a waste of money for what they were proposing :)

trofirhen
Jun 25, 2021, 2:05 AM
While walking through Robson Square today and having Apple Stores on the brain, I remembered visiting the Milan Apple Store. Like UBC, it sits below grade and you can enter though a glass cube or down some exterior steps. I then also remembered seeing a proposal for a new UBC entry where the stainless steel UBC sign now sits, but I can't remember where I saw it, or what ever became of it?
Link to the Milan Apple Store design:

https://www.aureliotomasso.com/en/apple-store-milan/
I remember visiting Milan years back, and the whole vibe of the city exudes elegance. I was never in the Apple sore there, but it and the mall it is located in is in keeping with Milanese design elegance. We are lucky to have Robson Square, and could take it and the whole of central downtown even further in design by studying what they have done, and are still doing in Milan.

C3YVR
Jun 25, 2021, 2:15 AM
Yeah that was it, it was the glass cube that I remember being similar to Milan where it takes you down one level.

mcminsen
Jul 27, 2021, 12:50 AM
July 26 '21, my pics
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/fHN4DY.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pofHN4DYj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/922/EiOb6q.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pmEiOb6qj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/923/2G4Sdm.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pn2G4Sdmj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/922/tpHCqN.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pmtpHCqNj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/1P6y5x.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/po1P6y5xj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/VPzTFP.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poVPzTFPj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/Gk20rM.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poGk20rMj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/923/AJ1wYc.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pnAJ1wYcj)

SpongeG
Jul 27, 2021, 12:56 AM
oh good lord it's still not done?

mcminsen
Jul 27, 2021, 1:29 AM
oh good lord it's still not done?




Nope. I just go through occasionally but I haven't seen any difference since they opened it up about 16 weeks ago...




April 5 '21, my pic
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/DcEvXx.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poDcEvXxj)

Vin
Jul 27, 2021, 1:30 AM
oh good lord it's still not done?

They just leave it in a mess for months.... that's how a run-down city manages things.

Note the heights of the weeds in it. Sooner or later those "weeds' would turn into mature trees.

Changing City
Jul 27, 2021, 2:21 AM
They just leave it in a mess for months.... that's how a run-down city manages things.

Note the heights of the weeds in it. Sooner or later those "weeds' would turn into mature trees.

Do you know for certain that's part of the plaza, and not part of the Courts landscaping? In which case it's the Province's project. And you remember how long their contract took to replace the membranes underneath their paving.

jollyburger
Jul 27, 2021, 3:02 AM
^^ That's a new art piece from the city.

VancouverOfTheFuture
Jul 27, 2021, 3:32 AM
oh yeah. such a nice space they created. /s

looks like junk.

Klazu
Jul 27, 2021, 5:47 AM
Robson Square has been under some kind of construction ever since I moved here. I have to say that it has improved as all those temporary installations were a joke. Even now the tables and chairs look so cheap and are all over the place. I wonder how many have been taken with them by the countless homeless?

I am also sorry to say, but the amount of stuff on the VAG stairs is starting to look like a garbage dump from afar. I wonder which city department will ever dare to remove any of it, so we might be stuck with a permanent installation of random junk.

Vin
Jul 28, 2021, 1:17 AM
Do you know for certain that's part of the plaza, and not part of the Courts landscaping? In which case it's the Province's project. And you remember how long their contract took to replace the membranes underneath their paving.

Even if what you say is true, a good City will push the owner to get things done right, or fines would be meted out. Obviously the City is not up to the mark: not even close, and we can always count on you to defend them.

However, those concrete blocks are definitely part of the work on the plaza, and they just leave them half-done. That's the true legacy of what Vancouver has become.

Robson Square has been under some kind of construction ever since I moved here. I have to say that it has improved as all those temporary installations were a joke. Even now the tables and chairs look so cheap and are all over the place. I wonder how many have been taken with them by the countless homeless?

I am also sorry to say, but the amount of stuff on the VAG stairs is starting to look like a garbage dump from afar. I wonder which city department will ever dare to remove any of it, so we might be stuck with a permanent installation of random junk.

If only City officials have some backbone.

Migrant_Coconut
Jul 28, 2021, 1:53 AM
Even if what you say is true, a good City will push the owner to get things done right, or fines would be meted out. Obviously the City is not up to the mark: not even close, and we can always count on you to defend them.

In which parallel universe is City Council allowed to fine the Province?

C3YVR
Jul 28, 2021, 12:20 PM
Maybe instead of only seeing the negative, we should look at this as providing a timely opportunity. It seems to me, this could be a proper location for a permanent memorial for the victims of residential schools.

connect2source
Jul 28, 2021, 2:39 PM
Anyone know anything about the construction now taking place along Hornby Street and the west side of the main VAG building? They removed the red awning, sidewalk, bike lane and surrounding landscape. They reduced Hornby to a single lane and traffic is a nightmare during peak hours.

Vancouver_Highrise
Jul 28, 2021, 3:18 PM
I am also sorry to say, but the amount of stuff on the VAG stairs is starting to look like a garbage dump from afar. I wonder which city department will ever dare to remove any of it, so we might be stuck with a permanent installation of random junk.

I would love to see you're reaction if the memorial was for Norwegian children who died from genocide.. You sound pathetic in most of your ignorant comments.

jollyburger
Jul 28, 2021, 9:06 PM
Anyone know anything about the construction now taking place along Hornby Street and the west side of the main VAG building? They removed the red awning, sidewalk, bike lane and surrounding landscape. They reduced Hornby to a single lane and traffic is a nightmare during peak hours.

I thought it was water main related but they call it transportation upgrades until November.

VAG Hornby St. Transportation Upgrades

Crews will be on-site for approximately 6 months to complete plaza upgrades which are part of the Vancouver Art Gallery.

Traffic Impacts: One lane northbound on Hornby St from Smithe St to W Georgia St will be retained.

http://vanmapp1.vancouver.ca/roadahead/events/details/46f5ad71-76e0-4791-a5c7-e99bda86c8a5

idunno
Jul 29, 2021, 4:18 PM
It looked like it was initially a watermain replacement (when they closed the block entirely earlier in the summer), but yeah perhaps they're improving the pickup/dropoff area adjacent to the VAG entrance.

I know the City is attempting to coordinate upgrades in an effort to 'dig up the street only once' - the Haro St project is another example of that.

Vin
Jul 29, 2021, 8:32 PM
In which parallel universe is City Council allowed to fine the Province?

Are you saying that the City is essentially castrated and powerless when it comes to dealing with provincial problems? How low of an expectation you see this council. Might as well be that way.

Regardless, I still see this as a mess left over by the City.

Changing City
Jul 29, 2021, 8:41 PM
Are you saying that the City is essentially castrated and powerless when it comes to dealing with provincial problems? How low of an expectation you see this council. Might as well be that way.


No, it's the way things work in Canada in terms of development by 'higher levels' of government. There's a hierarchy. Federal Government at the top - which is why that Federal military building over by Burrard Bridge doesn't have a development permit. They don't have to get one. Provincial Government is similar - which is why those huge electronic billboards outside BC Place aren't permitted under City of Vancouver regulations, but the Provincial government of the day built them anyway. Indian Reserves are like the Feds - which is why there are billboards by the Burrard Bridge, soon to be replaced by Sen̓áḵw won't have any City permits.

It's nothing to do with 'expectations' - it's reality.

Migrant_Coconut
Jul 29, 2021, 8:57 PM
Are you saying that the City is essentially castrated and powerless when it comes to dealing with provincial problems? How low of an expectation you see this council. Might as well be that way.

Regardless, I still see this as a mess left over by the City.

I'm saying there's three levels of government with different responsibilities, just like we all learned in school, so don't expect Vancouver to act like a dictatorial Asian city-state.

idunno
Jul 30, 2021, 4:42 PM
Agree with the above - the phrase we learn in school is that municipalities are 'creatures of the province.' There's very little in the way of upward bargaining done by cities in Canada.

mcminsen
Aug 18, 2021, 6:16 AM
Anyone know anything about the construction now taking place along Hornby Street and the west side of the main VAG building? They removed the red awning, sidewalk, bike lane and surrounding landscape. They reduced Hornby to a single lane and traffic is a nightmare during peak hours.




Aug.16 '21, my pics
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/922/hIenSW.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pmhIenSWj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/923/3Ygt2U.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pn3Ygt2Uj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/922/89os9k.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pm89os9kj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/Hc4eik.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poHc4eikj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/923/x1mPFq.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pnx1mPFqj)

WBC
Aug 18, 2021, 4:23 PM
Robson Square has been under some kind of construction ever since I moved here. I have to say that it has improved as all those temporary installations were a joke. Even now the tables and chairs look so cheap and are all over the place. I wonder how many have been taken with them by the countless homeless?

I am also sorry to say, but the amount of stuff on the VAG stairs is starting to look like a garbage dump from afar. I wonder which city department will ever dare to remove any of it, so we might be stuck with a permanent installation of random junk.

The entire Robson street looks like something out of a 3rd world country - painted Jersey barriers, dilapidated "pocket parks" and "patios", drunken hobos literally rolling on the ground and a never ending rotation of closed stores. We just need a couple of guys at VAG with machine guns standing in front of a barrel on fire to complete the look.

TwoFace
Aug 18, 2021, 4:27 PM
Estimated completion date: forgetaboutit :D

trofirhen
Aug 18, 2021, 5:39 PM
I'd love to see some renders (if there are any) of what the completed projected will look like, especially long the Hornby Street side of it. As pointed out out, it looks pretty rough & ready as is. A touch of elegance wouldn't hurt it any, but then, that would be "eurocentric," as I understand it.

officedweller
Aug 18, 2021, 5:52 PM
Hopefully a better VAG entrance canopy is part of it!

Vin
Aug 18, 2021, 9:38 PM
Hopefully a better VAG entrance canopy is part of it!

The newer "No overhang" bylaw applies here since this is no Wesbank project. So yeah, probably gone for good. :haha:

officedweller
Aug 18, 2021, 11:06 PM
"Westbank"

Changing City
Aug 18, 2021, 11:29 PM
The newer "No overhang" bylaw applies here since this is no Wesbild project. So yeah, probably gone for good. :haha:

New bylaw? Link?

Vin
Aug 19, 2021, 9:06 PM
New bylaw? Link?

I see you have lost your sense of humour.

"Westbank"

Yes, thank you! duly corrected.

Changing City
Aug 19, 2021, 9:14 PM
I see you have lost your sense of humour.

That was a joke? So in future I should consider all the inaccurate comments you write as humour? Got it!

Vin
Aug 20, 2021, 8:26 PM
That was a joke? So in future I should consider all the inaccurate comments you write as humour? Got it!

"Inaccurate" until proven otherwise, then you stay quiet and fade away. :cheers: Keep it up.

mcminsen
Sep 19, 2021, 7:58 PM
The unfinished part (the mound) seemed to be getting some attention this past Thursday.





Sept.16 '21, my pics
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/8YuGcp.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/po8YuGcpj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/Mg76hQ.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poMg76hQj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/hOzYJ6.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pohOzYJ6j)

mcminsen
Sep 23, 2021, 4:12 AM
Wow, they seem to be getting it done.




Sept.22 '21, my pics
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/dXftwO.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/podXftwOj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/dbkhSU.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/podbkhSUj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/rhmtAd.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/porhmtAdj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/922/5UAyd2.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pm5UAyd2j)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/923/484ahN.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pn484ahNj)

jollyburger
Sep 23, 2021, 4:37 AM
I can't wait to see the mess that turns into the next time it rains.

Zepfancouver
Sep 23, 2021, 5:50 AM
I'm thinking they will be laying sod here?

mcminsen
Sep 23, 2021, 11:19 AM
Aug.16 '21, my pic
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/922/hIenSW.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pmhIenSWj)





The work along Hornby is coming along...




Sept.22 '21, my pics
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/923/ogzZtj.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pnogzZtjj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/923/WbI6zS.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pnWbI6zSj)

urbanight93
Sep 23, 2021, 3:32 PM
I have to say that, after living in Toronto and seeing the minimal attention and care given to public spaces and the streetscape, the renovations at Robson Square have in my eyes succeeded at both preserving the original intent of the design while also updating and injecting some new life into the heart of the City. Looking forward for the west side to come together.

officedweller
Sep 23, 2021, 7:31 PM
The facade at the VAG entrance looks much better without the yellow canopy.

The work along Hornby is coming along...

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/923/WbI6zS.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pnWbI6zSj)

mcminsen
Oct 3, 2021, 12:36 PM
I can't wait to see the mess that turns into the next time it rains.




That's what I was thinking too, but it seems to have held up well through the recent heavy rains.




Oct.1 '21, my pics
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/LvHAKD.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poLvHAKDj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/n6TFcP.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pon6TFcPj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/923/4hwIDm.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pn4hwIDmj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/922/WBLziA.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pmWBLziAj)

mcminsen
Oct 18, 2021, 9:40 AM
The work along Hornby is coming along...




Sept.22 '21, my pic
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/923/ogzZtj.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pnogzZtjj)





25 days later...

The trees in the distance have turned red.





Oct.17 '21, my pic
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/e0V5E3.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poe0V5E3j)

connect2source
Oct 18, 2021, 1:14 PM
This is taking way too long, Hornby is a nightmare most of the day because of the lane closures, added to that all the Extinction Rebellion protests, Smithe bike lane construction and the Bute closures.

jollyburger
Oct 18, 2021, 2:52 PM
This is taking way too long, Hornby is a nightmare most of the day because of the lane closures, added to that all the Extinction Rebellion protests, Smithe bike lane construction and the Bute closures.

Six month project timeline seems awfully long for such a short stretch of road.

Tysonbrown
Oct 18, 2021, 5:16 PM
Blue picnic tables? Good God! I saw a photo of this eyesore online and about spit my coffee. Why, why, why...does Vancouver continually get this WRONG. It's the central square of a major city. Fountains and gardens not crap ideas "from your back yard".

Changing City
Oct 18, 2021, 5:40 PM
This is taking way too long, Hornby is a nightmare most of the day because of the lane closures, added to that all the Extinction Rebellion protests, Smithe bike lane construction and the Bute closures.

The site sign (posted on the page before) says the work will be complete in December 2021. So far it looks like that's when it should be completed.

Changing City
Oct 18, 2021, 5:46 PM
Blue picnic tables? Good God! I saw a photo of this eyesore online and about spit my coffee. Why, why, why...does Vancouver continually get this WRONG. It's the central square of a major city. Fountains and gardens not crap ideas "from your back yard".

What's wrong with picnic tables on a plaza during covid? Covid is why they were put there. And the plaza where the picnic tables have been placed is the roof of the Art Gallery storage. They removed the previous fountain because it was damaged and risked flooding the basement. There are many other water features, gardens and fountains around the immediate area. This was designed to be a multi-purpose large plaza for events, and until covid, it was used that way, a lot. Even during covid some events have been able to occur here.

trofirhen
Oct 18, 2021, 8:01 PM
Blue picnic tables? Good God! I saw a photo of this eyesore online and about spit my coffee. Why, why, why...does Vancouver continually get this WRONG. It's the central square of a major city. Fountains and gardens not crap ideas "from your back yard".
That was pretty much my reaction, too. Unfortunately, wishing for elegant fountains and gardens is considered 'Eurocentric" and not in keeping with the rustic pioneer history of the city.:no:

connect2source
Oct 18, 2021, 9:54 PM
Six month project timeline seems awfully long for such a short stretch of road.

Agreed, far too long for that small a project. Hornby is essential as it's the only street west of Seymour where you can make a left onto Georgia for the Lions Gate Bridge. The city needs to prioritize these last remaining through-streets as some of us fat-cats actually need to use our evil climate destroying vehicles for our careers in order to pay our bills and feed our families.

VancouverOfTheFuture
Oct 18, 2021, 11:50 PM
... some of us fat-cats actually need to use our evil climate destroying vehicles for our careers in order to pay our bills and feed our families.

don't forget, also pay for these City projects and pay the protests, that are blocking the roads, welfare!:haha:

mcminsen
Oct 20, 2021, 7:23 PM
Oct.1 '21, my pic
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/n6TFcP.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pon6TFcPj)






The orange things have been removed and it's easier now to see the new plantings.





Oct.17 '21, my pics
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/922/RtArs6.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pmRtArs6j)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/AiDpwP.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poAiDpwPj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/922/L9Cbnp.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pmL9Cbnpj)

Klazu
Oct 20, 2021, 7:37 PM
All this work along Hornby and the square seem very pointless. And all I can think of from seeing those orange flags is how much trash was created for a short stunt. :(

officedweller
Oct 20, 2021, 8:10 PM
That pine tree up front will soon encroach onto the sidewalk unless they prune back the lower branches.
It should have been set back a bit more.

Vin
Oct 20, 2021, 8:50 PM
Blue picnic tables? Good God! I saw a photo of this eyesore online and about spit my coffee. Why, why, why...does Vancouver continually get this WRONG. It's the central square of a major city. Fountains and gardens not crap ideas "from your back yard".

The new generation of decision makers make all the bad choices here. Just look at a lot of the public art around town.

Alberni Street, a major so-called luxury shopping hub, has seen no improvement over the decades. It is a major embarrassment for our City, considering how other cities have improved their prime commercial neighbourhoods over time.

As for the Art Gallery area, the initial phase of the upgrade was actually quite nice, but I see bad maintenance on the part of the City/Robson Square. Quite often skateboarders are allowed to come in to scrape and bang up street furniture, and homeless people seen sleeping overnight and littering, etc. No point spending so much money to upgrade a public square to have it look crummy and dirty in no time. People tend to avoid run-down areas.

I have a feeling the City is also making lots of money renting the square out to movie-makers. The area is often taken over by them pitching up tents. Utility trucks leaking oil are also parked there, sometimes for days.

officedweller
Oct 20, 2021, 10:05 PM
Even Cadillac Fairview had ugly painted picnic tables and astroturf all summer on the plaza next to TD Tower.
It was touted as an art installation.

VancouverOfTheFuture
Oct 21, 2021, 12:28 AM
Even Cadillac Fairview had ugly painted picnic tables and astroturf all summer on the plaza next to TD Tower.
It was touted as an art installation.

i think the common denominator here is this. picnic tables are cheap, add some cheap paint and you can claim public art. cheap cheap cheap is what they did.

Klazu
Oct 23, 2021, 4:19 AM
Cheap is the only option when junkies will steal anything they can move from restaurant patios. Even they don't want chairs this ugly. :haha:

jollyburger
Oct 23, 2021, 4:33 AM
i think the common denominator here is this. picnic tables are cheap, add some cheap paint and you can claim public art. cheap cheap cheap is what they did.

Maybe they are knockoffs but Fermob chair/table sets go for $450 :D

connect2source
Oct 23, 2021, 2:31 PM
Just noticed that small outlines of ( I'm guessing ) children, outlined in orange, have been spray-painted all over the brand new concrete adjacent to where those small orange flags were just removed.

Tysonbrown
Oct 23, 2021, 11:56 PM
Moving on...

Tysonbrown
Oct 23, 2021, 11:57 PM
I understood that a pressure washing was instore for the AG. Sure hope so.

mcminsen
Oct 24, 2021, 2:16 AM
Oct.23 '21, my pics
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/wm29hc.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/powm29hcj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/P8ugVG.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poP8ugVGj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/923/HZp1pl.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pnHZp1plj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/DmwzAE.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poDmwzAEj)

officedweller
Oct 24, 2021, 5:07 AM
Nice foliage!

chrisel
Oct 24, 2021, 8:31 AM
Oct.23 '21, my pics

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/DmwzAE.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poDmwzAEj)

Those fins are honestly such a lame design decision. They block out the views of the building's facade to begin with and don't make the square appear inviting in the least bit from that vantage point. Function follows form in this instance.

mcminsen
Nov 10, 2021, 12:23 PM
Nov.9 '21, my pic
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/VUq1qk.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poVUq1qkj)

mcminsen
Jan 21, 2022, 11:29 AM
There seems to be a permanent large puddle in Robson Square.

I can't remember the last time it wasn't there.





Jan.20 '22, my pics
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/bMc7aS.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pobMc7aSj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/ctttsS.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poctttsSj)

Florilege
Jan 21, 2022, 6:44 PM
In November, you absolutely needed rain boots, or even rubber boots to cross the square. :notacrook:

Repthe250
Jan 21, 2022, 7:48 PM
Oct.23 '21, my pics


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/DmwzAE.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poDmwzAEj)

Why on EARTH are those fins there. They block the view of a gorgeous building.
Considering the street is a one way flowing towards the buildings facade, it seems so stupid to block the view. This actually makes me angry

Vin
Jan 21, 2022, 9:29 PM
Nov.9 '21, my pic
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/VUq1qk.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poVUq1qkj)

Someone mentioned that the mess that was left around for months on end was on "provincial property". Well, with this picture, we know who's responsible for it, and it doesn't come as a surprise.

With years to work on a mere public square, one would think the drainage would be top-notch. Now we see the square being flooded whenever it rains.

svlt
Jan 21, 2022, 11:17 PM
There seems to be a permanent large puddle in Robson Square.

I can't remember the last time it wasn't there.





Jan.20 '22, my pics
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/bMc7aS.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pobMc7aSj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/ctttsS.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poctttsSj)

That's a pond at this point, deserving of a place name and a blue shapefile on Google maps

officedweller
Jan 22, 2022, 12:41 AM
There seems to be a permanent large puddle in Robson Square.

I can't remember the last time it wasn't there.

Jan.20 '22, my pics
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/bMc7aS.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pobMc7aSj)


Submit it as a "Service Request" to the City on its website.
You can even attach a photo.

VancouverOfTheFuture
Jan 22, 2022, 1:46 AM
it was better when open for traffic

mcminsen
Jan 27, 2022, 5:55 AM
Although it's behind schedule, the work along the Hornby Street side of VAG is actively coming along.

I was watching as they were laying the large rectangular paving blocks today.





Jan.26 '22, my pics
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/922/3HGd3T.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pm3HGd3Tj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/922/epyCUd.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pmepyCUdj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/922/Ei0Qmq.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pmEi0Qmqj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/OJ0s4t.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poOJ0s4tj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/922/bGu8kC.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pmbGu8kCj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/QaB0zb.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poQaB0zbj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/bZ8O2d.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pobZ8O2dj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/y0zoxB.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poy0zoxBj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/923/q61hko.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pnq61hkoj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/923/aid8Qs.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pnaid8Qsj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/922/0TnGz9.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pm0TnGz9j)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/Ecre5p.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poEcre5pj)

urbanight93
Jan 27, 2022, 4:30 PM
We are very lucky to have such a beautiful building be located in the heart of our city. Compared to Nathan Phillips Square and its revitalization that has fallen short, Robson Square improvements have been, imo, successful at elevating the public realm, highlighting the VAG-courthouse complex and place-making in the centre of downtown.

NewfBC
Jan 27, 2022, 4:51 PM
We are very lucky to have such a beautiful building be located in the heart of our city. Compared to Nathan Phillips Square and its revitalization that has fallen short, Robson Square improvements have been, imo, successful at elevating the public realm, highlighting the VAG-courthouse complex and place-making in the centre of downtown.

Wow.. I love Nathan Phillips Square.. so much life there any time of the day or night.. and no booths with people openly selling drugs with signs "F*ck the Police", etc.

https://twitter.com/PeterMeiszner/status/1445536168142008330

Ron.

VancouverOfTheFuture
Jan 28, 2022, 12:40 AM
yeah, the building is nice. the rest of the renovations sucked. one giant paved over piece of land, with really nothing there. yes, great. or that transit shelter that blocks out the nice building from one angle.

there is literally nothing nice there in the slightest. go there in the middle of the summer, enjoy the heat from the sun above, and reflecting from below. its terrible.

we will see how the side of the building looks when done, though i wouldn't hold my breath.

Prometheus
Mar 24, 2022, 6:44 PM
The teepee camp that’s been exclusively occupying Robson Square for the last year has now expanded to include its own private car parking spot directly on the pedestrian square, with the assistance of City of Vancouver fencing.

jollyburger
Mar 24, 2022, 6:47 PM
The teepee city that’s been occupying Robson Square for the last year has now expanded to include its own private car parking spot directly on the pedestrian square, with the assistance of City of Vancouver fencing.

No bicycle parking?

s211
Mar 24, 2022, 8:22 PM
The teepee camp that’s been exclusively occupying Robson Square for the last year

The what? I've not been by that area in awhile. What am I missing out on? #FOMO

jollyburger
Mar 24, 2022, 8:59 PM
The what? I've not been by that area in awhile. What am I missing out on? #FOMO

Memorial for the residential school victims I believe.

mcminsen
Mar 27, 2022, 8:06 PM
March 26 '22, my pics
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/BWarQZ.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poBWarQZj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/ThJ8SN.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poThJ8SNj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/922/kYRIXz.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pmkYRIXzj)

VancouverOfTheFuture
Mar 27, 2022, 8:51 PM
yeah, that area is so much nicer now than before. what a great use of money that was! /s

mcminsen
May 10, 2022, 7:54 AM
Hornby Street.





May 9 '22, my pics
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/923/HmgmFy.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pnHmgmFyj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/zpuaR1.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pozpuaR1j)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/923/cbSJIz.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pncbSJIzj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/923/hAZ16j.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pnhAZ16jj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/922/LwVS0r.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pmLwVS0rj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/923/uymC4f.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pnuymC4fj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/ua7kH1.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poua7kH1j)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/3cq0DY.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/po3cq0DYj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/922/aeUBjJ.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pmaeUBjJj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/923/Ax4IBV.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pnAx4IBVj)

mcminsen
May 18, 2022, 10:53 AM
The teepee camp that’s been exclusively occupying Robson Square for the last year has now expanded to include its own private car parking spot directly on the pedestrian square, with the assistance of City of Vancouver fencing.




And it continues to expand even more.




March 26 '22, my pic
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/BWarQZ.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poBWarQZj)





May 17 '22, my pics
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/923/c4UZvO.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pnc4UZvOj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/AISgGs.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poAISgGsj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/923/8JaNbN.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pn8JaNbNj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/923/evr8UW.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pnevr8UWj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/74bNUa.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/po74bNUaj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/923/DQjyZj.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pnDQjyZjj)

Klazu
May 18, 2022, 2:03 PM
I cannot believe the occupation of the VAG stairs continues and is even expanding to the public square! What waste of what could be a nice public space, but everybody's afraid to do anything about it. It looks like a homeless camp in making with all the random tents.

Metro-One
May 18, 2022, 2:53 PM
I was going to ask if that was a homeless camp.

What is the organizers endgame?

What must be met for them to take it down?

Seriously curious.

If there are no realistic demands (such as erecting a monument or plaque) then it’s obviously just bait for a protest when it is eventually removed.

And there is never ever any real “land back” solution, it’s 2022, nearly 40 million people live in Canada now and 95% are non native, it’s either we are in this together, or nothing at this point. A land divided is never a long term solution.

Japan is never going back to the Ainu, Taiwan is never going back to being non-Han people, central and Northern Europe is never going back to its Pagan days, time to realize we live in today.

WarrenC12
May 18, 2022, 3:06 PM
I believe this started with the discovery of unmarked gravesites from residential schools.

That side of the VAG is not an entrance. It has been protest/demonstration central for decades.

Why are people getting triggered over this? It's not blocking anybody from anything.

Metro-One
May 18, 2022, 3:33 PM
We know why it started, but can you answer my question, what is the end game? When can it be removed?

As noted above I am welcome to a permanent memorial, but what is there now can’t stay forever.