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Hawrylyshyn
Feb 4, 2017, 4:06 PM
It'd be great if you could post a picture of it here next time you get the chance^ I'm very curious about it, and I'm sure everyone else would appreciate it too! :)

davidcappi
Feb 4, 2017, 4:13 PM
http://royalconnaught.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/RC_Courtyard-500x350.jpg
Source: http://royalconnaught.com/suites/amenities/

Chronamut
Feb 7, 2017, 3:15 PM
http://royalconnaught.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/RC_Courtyard-500x350.jpg
Source: http://royalconnaught.com/suites/amenities/

I have to admit that looks pretty sweet - a nice combination of modern with old world class :)

more class is what I want to see returning to the core :)

Chronamut
Feb 7, 2017, 3:26 PM
I've seen buildings closer together. If they can put some art in that alley that looks like they'll have it would probably go better. (Or if they can put a cafe with a patio in there to get some foot traffic, that might give people something to look at?)

they can always use mine - always looking for new places to showcase my work in hamilton ;)

http://ShawnDall.com

thomax
Feb 7, 2017, 3:47 PM
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/273/32614383821_8b1068e351_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/RG2f3r)
2/5/2017 (https://flic.kr/p/RG2f3r) by Joe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/-jm/), on Flickr

hamilton23
Feb 7, 2017, 7:11 PM
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/273/32614383821_8b1068e351_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/RG2f3r)
2/5/2017 (https://flic.kr/p/RG2f3r) by Joe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/-jm/), on Flickr

Nice Photo!. Glazing should be completed for the entire building including Upper Penthouse level by end of next week!.

fuller
Feb 7, 2017, 11:21 PM
Nice Photo!. Glazing should be completed for the entire building including Upper Penthouse level by end of next week!.

That's fast. Here's hoping they've hired one darn fine glass company for this, someone that can somehow bring the look of this hideous-on-paper addition into line with the rest of the building. :shrug:

hamilton23
Feb 7, 2017, 11:51 PM
That's fast. Here's hoping they've hired one darn fine glass company for this, someone that can somehow bring the look of this hideous-on-paper addition into line with the rest of the building. :shrug:

The Phase 1 Addition has been sold out for nearly a year. The Phase 2 Addition which is the Penthouse portion on top of the building, hasn't been released to the public yet. Based on sales, I would say the addition has been very well received!.

LikeHamilton
Feb 16, 2017, 6:54 PM
Phase Two's grand opening is Saturday February 25th @ noon.

https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16806868_1051869048251547_423881013177822127_n.jpg?oh=b0395dd0c9fe463201ad53a1fcc2dd6d&oe=58FF1C7F

timach
Feb 16, 2017, 11:32 PM
Phase Two's grand opening is Saturday February 25th @ noon.

https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16806868_1051869048251547_423881013177822127_n.jpg?oh=b0395dd0c9fe463201ad53a1fcc2dd6d&oe=58FF1C7F



Awesome, gonna go check it out!

RoyalSuites
Feb 17, 2017, 12:57 AM
Properly lighting a building is a bit of a science...

some hilarious inconsistencies with these lights. some of them are a totally different color temperature ahaha

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2822/32084680644_9de0d0fc46_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/QTdnK3)
Uplighting Royal Connaught Residences (https://flic.kr/p/QTdnK3) by Joe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/-jm/), on Flickr

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2025/32804015631_a793885fe8_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/RYM9Yp)
Uplighting Royal Connaught Residences (2) (https://flic.kr/p/RYM9Yp) by Joe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/-jm/), on Flickr

Rg2016
Feb 17, 2017, 1:02 AM
some hilarious inconsistencies with these lights. some of them are a totally different color temperature ahaha

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2822/32084680644_9de0d0fc46_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/QTdnK3)
Uplighting Royal Connaught Residences (https://flic.kr/p/QTdnK3) by Joe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/-jm/), on Flickr

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2025/32804015631_a793885fe8_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/RYM9Yp)
Uplighting Royal Connaught Residences (2) (https://flic.kr/p/RYM9Yp) by Joe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/-jm/), on Flickr

:haha:

Dr Awesomesauce
Feb 18, 2017, 2:26 AM
Lighting is so often an afterthought. There's a bit of a science to it and some cities spend scads of money on that expertise.

hamilton23
Feb 18, 2017, 2:12 PM
some hilarious inconsistencies with these lights. some of them are a totally different color temperature ahaha

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2822/32084680644_9de0d0fc46_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/QTdnK3)
Uplighting Royal Connaught Residences (https://flic.kr/p/QTdnK3) by Joe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/-jm/), on Flickr

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2025/32804015631_a793885fe8_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/RYM9Yp)
Uplighting Royal Connaught Residences (2) (https://flic.kr/p/RYM9Yp) by Joe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/-jm/), on Flickr

I love how someone goes out of their way to create an account, only to make an inaccurate statement...

The lighting is the same temperature on the building. If on this day it appeared as different temperatures, it was only because the lighting was adjusted for the trades that were working directly above the lights. This is a construction site...the building is currently under construction..meaning items such as the exterior lighting might not be fully complete yet.

HamiltonBoyInToronto
Feb 18, 2017, 5:37 PM
will they be lighting the east side of the building ?

hamilton23
Feb 18, 2017, 7:43 PM
will they be lighting the east side of the building ?

I was mistaken about this. Since Phase 3 and the restaurant space/piazza will be between Phase 2 and 3, there won't be lighting on the EAST SIDE exterior of the building like those on the King St and John St sides.

Dr Awesomesauce
Feb 19, 2017, 1:58 AM
^Looking forward to Phase 1 wrapping up. :tup:

hamilton23
Feb 22, 2017, 2:39 PM
^Looking forward to Phase 1 wrapping up. :tup:

Getting There!.Looking forward for people to see :tup:

HamiltonBoyInToronto
Feb 23, 2017, 2:39 AM
great thank you for the update. :)

ScreamingViking
Feb 23, 2017, 3:47 AM
The lighting is the same temperature on the building. If on this day it appeared as different temperatures, it was only because the lighting was adjusted for the trades that were working directly above the lights. This is a construction site...the building is currently under construction..meaning items such as the exterior lighting might not be fully complete yet.

I'd think there would be testing too, to see what intensity and colour looks best in real life.

hamilton23
Feb 23, 2017, 4:00 PM
I'd think there would be testing too, to see what intensity and colour looks best in real life.

This has been done

Davis137
Feb 24, 2017, 12:19 AM
That addition to the top of the building doesn't look too bad, and I understand they did it to provide more penthouses as well as to tie in with all of the new additions to the property. I am looking forward to this being completed, and the start of the tower portion to start...

ScreamingViking
Feb 25, 2017, 5:52 AM
This has been done

Great. :tup:

In many ways, the Connaught has been a bellwether for downtown. As it comes back to life that lighting will be a spotlight on the show to come.

fuller
Feb 26, 2017, 7:30 AM
Not much has been said here about the restoration side of this project.

I like the way this development *simulates* historic details economically at higher levels (precast brick slabs up top) but at the same time spends the effort to faithfully restore/replicate the important historic details in the limestone facade nearer to the street level.

When the project first finally started, under such uncertain economic conditions, I was worried there would be skimping on architectural restoration in the interest of just getting the project done (the strongest previous proposal was an SRO hotel), and by initial looks it seemed that might be the case.

Then, after the initial release, there must have been great interest in the development, at workable price points, because suddenly the restoration efforts seemed to intensify.

The exterior work carried out on the lower storeys seems to be very high quality, especially noticeable on the John Street side where the stone was removed and then replaced after the new structure was built behind. There must have been some replacement slabs, or patching from other areas removed, but the way it all blends in is almost seamless.

cityguy
Feb 26, 2017, 1:28 PM
When will the tower portion start?

hamilton23
Feb 26, 2017, 5:42 PM
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hamilton23
Feb 26, 2017, 5:44 PM
When will the tower portion start?

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timach
Feb 26, 2017, 8:36 PM
I want a condo here so bad. But everyone is telling me to buy a house.. I don't know what to do! All the houses for sale are dumps but the condos have condo fees!

king10
Feb 26, 2017, 8:44 PM
This is a wonderful post!. It's important for people to know that the builder is Spallacci Group. They have over 60 years of Construction experience, building communities and condos in not only Hamilton but the entire GTA, Whitby, St.Catherines, Houston Texas, etc. They take a great amount of pride in the workmanship and craftsmanship. I can tell you that EXTREME care and a lot of money has been and will continue to be put into this project, in order to ensure that the Royal Connaught maintains its historic presence, while being restored for the modern age (blending old and new). The owner of the project was born and raised and continues to live in Hamilton and supports the city in a big way. He is also running day-to-day construction operations and is extremely involved.

Is Valery homes not in a 50/50 partnership with Spallacci or has that changed?

Also which of the Spalacci brothers is owner of this project and running day to day ops? Thought all brothers would be invovled, sounds like only one is though.

RoyalSuites
Feb 27, 2017, 1:40 AM
Also which of the Spalacci brothers is owner of this project and running day to day ops? Thought all brothers would be invovled, sounds like only one is though.


Hamilton23 is said Spallacci Brother. I would have thought the sales copy would have given that away lol.

hamilton23
Feb 27, 2017, 11:16 AM
Is Valery homes not in a 50/50 partnership with Spallacci or has that changed?

Also which of the Spalacci brothers is owner of this project and running day to day ops? Thought all brothers would be invovled, sounds like only one is though.

Valery is a parter in the project, but Spallacci is currently constructing the project solely.

hamilton23
Feb 27, 2017, 11:18 AM
Hamilton23 is said Spallacci Brother. I would have thought the sales copy would have given that away lol.

Incorrect, like your other posts :). The sales info has been public knowledge as of Saturday!

davidcappi
Feb 27, 2017, 2:43 PM
I love your Donald Trump-esque way of refuting my posts; by deeming them as inaccurate or incorrect. Meanwhile you're not being honest with this board about who you are. On other threads developers get banned for not disclosing that information. It's pretty pathetic if you ask me.

hamilton23
Feb 27, 2017, 3:06 PM
I love your Donald Trump-esque way of refuting my posts; by deeming them as inaccurate or incorrect. Meanwhile you're not being honest with this board about who you are. On other threads developers get banned for not disclosing that information. It's pretty pathetic if you ask me.

I knew it!. Why did you create a new account just to trash the project David?. You acted out of line in the RC sales centre and the consequences are what they are. Move on already!!:tup:

davidcappi
Feb 27, 2017, 3:10 PM
I created a different account so you'd stop harassing and reporting my posts when you don't like what I have to say :)

hamilton23
Feb 27, 2017, 3:14 PM
I created a different account so you'd stop harassing and reporting my posts when you don't like what I have to say :)

Harassing you?. In what way exactly?.

If i'm not mistaken, you're banned from the entire development for life?. Creating a fake username to trash a project is childish. I guess that's what to be expected from someone with 0 experience in construction or any related discipline and to boot with a temper that's well known around Hamilton.

movingtohamilton
Feb 27, 2017, 3:18 PM
I knew it!. Why did you create a new account just to trash the project David?. You acted out of line in the RC sales centre and the consequences are what they are. Move on already!!:tup:

The great thing about the Hamilton forums is the free-flow of information, along with thoughtful opinions and discussion.

So I'm concerned that Hamilton23 has never disclosed his status as an employee of the RC project. I'm sure he has given us good information on the development's progress, etc. But has a vested interest, and his posts need to be seen in that light.

I don't understand his reluctance to be transparent on this.

hamilton23
Feb 27, 2017, 3:20 PM
The great thing about the Hamilton forums is the free-flow of information, along with thoughtful opinions and discussion.

So I'm concerned that Hamilton23 has never disclosed his status as an employee of the RC project. I'm sure he has given us good information on the development's progress, etc. But has a vested interest, and his posts need to be seen in that light.

I don't understand his reluctance to be transparent on this.

I'm connected to the project and deal with the project on a daily basis. I can tell you i'm not an owner of the project, but I do work for the project!. I think it's important to share information about the project and love to share information, however when people like David Cappizzano ( who had quite a messy situation at the development) is on a mission to trash the development (even though its his fault he's banned), I will defend the project. Otherwise, I'm very open to positive dialogue with members on the board.

movingtohamilton
Feb 27, 2017, 3:22 PM
I'm connected to the project and deal with the project on a daily basis.

Thanks for finally revealing this :) What is your role?

hamilton23
Feb 27, 2017, 3:26 PM
Thanks for finally revealing this :) What is your role?

See above.

davidcappi
Feb 27, 2017, 3:34 PM
I'm not on any mission. I have very high expectations. there are hundreds of threads about hundreds of buildings on this website and if you think they're filled with glowing complements and positivity you have some waking up to do. I might not have construction experience, but I can certainly tell when something doesn't look right.

Reporting every one of my posts could be deemed as harassing lol. You reported me for posting a photo from the development website ahahahah like wtf

SteelTown
Feb 27, 2017, 3:59 PM
Here's a cool thread about building's lighting design

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=226124&page=5

I think something post #91 would be sweet for the Connaught, white light with a hint of purple

Rialto theatre (Montreal)

https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/16229220_1749751198685874_25723001517375488_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTQzNTE5MjI0NjYwOTU2MTI1Mw%3D%3D.2" style="">
https://www.instagram.com/p/BPq076Ljsal/?taken-by=alele_lortie

hamilton23
Feb 27, 2017, 4:01 PM
I'm not on any mission. I have very high expectations. there are hundreds of threads about hundreds of buildings on this website and if you think they're filled with glowing complements and positivity you have some waking up to do. I might not have construction experience, but I can certainly tell when something doesn't look right.

Reporting every one of my posts could be deemed as harassing lol. You reported me for posting a photo from the development website ahahahah like wtf

You are on a clear mission David :) hence why you actually harassed people working on the development in person and attempted to assault another...

Simply reporting a post is not harassment.

And no, you can't tell when something doesn't look right because you don't have the knowledge or work experience to make that judgement call. That would be like if I constantly criticized an MD, even though I don't have an education in Medicine or the experience. Clearly the MD would know more than me about practising medicine.

I understand criticism will come with every development and it's fair. My only goal here is to correct inaccuracies, provide construction updates of the development, and have meaningful discussion with OTHER members of this board. You're opinions on this particular Development don't matter David because you're legally banned from the development.Of course your opinions will be negative based on that!.

hamilton23
Feb 27, 2017, 4:02 PM
Here's a cool thread about building's lighting design

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=226124&page=5

I think something post #91 would be sweet for the Connaught, white light with a hint of purple

Agreed!. That looks sweet. The lighting that you see at the RC now is temporary and we're currently in the midst of making a final decision on the exterior lighting.

davidcappi
Feb 27, 2017, 4:42 PM
I agreed to respect your ban. The rest is just nonsense on your part.

hamilton23
Feb 27, 2017, 5:06 PM
I agreed to respect your ban. The rest is just nonsense on your part.

Nothing I've said is nonsense. Going out of your way to create new accounts to bash the development is what's really nonsensical!.

movingtohamilton
Feb 27, 2017, 5:12 PM
Nothing I've said is nonsense. Going out of your way to create new accounts to bash the development is what's really nonsensical!.

Both of you...STOP! Enough. Rip into each other via PMs.

atnor
Feb 27, 2017, 5:36 PM
What did he do to get banned? What kind of assault? These are important questions.

hamilton23
Feb 27, 2017, 5:43 PM
What did he do to get banned? What kind of assault? These are important questions.

That's between the police, RC and David.

movingtohamilton
Feb 27, 2017, 5:46 PM
What did he do to get banned? What kind of assault? These are important questions.

I think you should PM each of them, for answers. The continuing arguments end up hijacking the thread.

Personally, I think the RC employee should resist replying to comments made by davidcappi. A smart marketing/pr person knows the value of letting a fire burn out...not adding more wood.

hamilton23
Feb 27, 2017, 6:16 PM
I think you should PM each of them, for answers. The continuing arguments end up hijacking the thread.

Personally, I think the RC employee should resist replying to comments made by davidcappi. A smart marketing/pr person knows the value of letting a fire burn out...not adding more wood.

Thanks for the advice :tup: , but I will handle the situation however I see fit :) especially if it involves him creating fake accounts to make false claims and/or trash the progress on the development. I'm done talking about him and won't get into specifics about what he did on this thread.

Anyone can PM me if they want more details.

I'll continue posting updates on construction progress and any news. I'll also answer questions about the development that anyone may have.

timach
Feb 27, 2017, 8:48 PM
I'm connected to the project and deal with the project on a daily basis. I can tell you i'm not an owner of the project, but I do work for the project!. I think it's important to share information about the project and love to share information, however when people like David Cappizzano ( who had quite a messy situation at the development) is on a mission to trash the development (even though its his fault he's banned), I will defend the project. Otherwise, I'm very open to positive dialogue with members on the board.

You work there? Simple question, would you pay what they're asking for a suite?

hamilton23
Feb 27, 2017, 9:01 PM
You work there? Simple question, would you pay what they're asking for a suite?

Of course. The prices start at $270,000, and thats for a condo over 630 SQFT with luxurious finishes, dozens of different upgrade options, you get to come home from work everyday to the amazing historic lobby, live in Architectural gem thats over 100 years old and filled with a rich history, close to both GO Station, great restaurants, the McNab Bus Terminal, etc. PM me if you want more info!. I would be happy to talk to you about the development.

king10
Feb 28, 2017, 3:21 PM
I think you should PM each of them, for answers. The continuing arguments end up hijacking the thread.

Personally, I think the RC employee should resist replying to comments made by davidcappi. A smart marketing/pr person knows the value of letting a fire burn out...not adding more wood.

bingo

hamilton23
Feb 28, 2017, 4:57 PM
bingo

I said all there is that I can say about his situation. I have moved on from discussing it in this thread. I'll be glad to answer questions about it through PM!.

hamilton23
Feb 28, 2017, 7:19 PM
IKEA Canada has chosen The Royal Connaught for a site visit for their Interior Design and Architecture Conference taking place next week!. The Royal Connaught was chosen over every other development in the GTA and for Canada for that matter!.

thomax
Mar 18, 2017, 4:29 PM
https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3869/32659518104_62967b0af5_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/RL1yTJ)
Residences of the Royal Connaught Construction | 3/17/2017 (https://flic.kr/p/RL1yTJ) by Joe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/-jm/), on Flickr

Chronamut
Mar 18, 2017, 4:39 PM
still think they should have chosen a brick colour that matched the original building..

I will admit that the addition on top seems less noticeable now though.. and probably will even less so when the other towers go up - should be interesting to see how this all develops.

BriniaSona
Mar 18, 2017, 6:52 PM
I heard it's sold out. If they announce the new tower, I'd like to put a down payment on a unit but I want to be on a higher story with more of a view.

Whoa, wish I could afford more than 750 a month, lol. How much are those units going for?

Davis137
Mar 22, 2017, 2:21 AM
IKEA Canada has chosen The Royal Connaught for a site visit for their Interior Design and Architecture Conference taking place next week!. The Royal Connaught was chosen over every other development in the GTA and for Canada for that matter!.

That is awesome!

Zmonkey
Mar 22, 2017, 12:19 PM
Whoa, wish I could afford more than 750 a month, lol. How much are those units going for?

I think that is the biggest issue with all these new construction buildings, so many are being bought by investors with hopes to rent them out.

These things need to be rented out for 1500/month and up to carry, most will be in negative $$$. There is only a limted # of people who want/can to pay that much a month.

When it was first launched a 1 bedroom was at 300K, no parking. That is 1050/month mortgage (with 20% down), 275 Condo fees, $200 taxes, $50 Insurance. That was for pretty bare bones proper 1 bedroom.

I owned in Stinson school and people were having some issues renting there places out, things sat for months. That is the reason I sold vs rented my place out there, too many potential empty months.

davidcappi
Mar 22, 2017, 3:27 PM
I'm predicting dozens of these to show up on Kijiji at obscene rents once occupancy starts.

Zmonkey
Mar 22, 2017, 5:21 PM
I'm predicting dozens of these to show up on Kijiji at obscene rents once occupancy starts.

People will start discounting. They will need to, u like Toronto and most of the GTA we don't have the demand here for Farily expensive 1 bedrooms, especially that many coming to market at same time.

I know someone who is trying to rent out for 1400 for a 1 bedroom in Stinson (I think it's on Kijiji) and is struggling, and has been vacant for couple
Months now.

davidcappi
Mar 22, 2017, 6:35 PM
People will start discounting. They will need to, u like Toronto and most of the GTA we don't have the demand here for Farily expensive 1 bedrooms, especially that many coming to market at same time.

I know someone who is trying to rent out for 1400 for a 1 bedroom in Stinson (I think it's on Kijiji) and is struggling, and has been vacant for couple
Months now.

Yeah this is the story all over town. I don't feel bad for the investors though. Many have bought units or houses and over-finished them with unnecessary upgrades in order to label them as luxury to command high rents. The problem is that people aren't really interested in high end rentals right now, especially small one bedroom ones.

I'm expecting RC to be a hotspot for those 1 bed rentals as well as AirBnB.

Zmonkey
Mar 22, 2017, 6:57 PM
Yeah this is the story all over town. I don't feel bad for the investors though. Many have bought units or houses and over-finished them with unnecessary upgrades in order to label them as luxury to command high rents. The problem is that people aren't really interested in high end rentals right now, especially small one bedroom ones.

I'm expecting RC to be a hotspot for those 1 bed rentals as well as AirBnB.

Houses I find still do fairly alright, I know a couple people who own duplex, and to me that is a much better way to invest in Hamilton vs a condo. And at least a year and half ago it was around same price.

When I sold Stinson I made a big gain and wanted to invest here, but it was soft then and looks softer now, I ended up putting that gain into Milton. To
Me the biggest issue with this city continues to be lack of jobs for university educated people, I moved to Burlington because our company moved out office. We could not retain anyone in Hamilton. They all left for GTA proper. I was in process of getting married at time, my then bf didn't want to come to Hamilton as an engineer. He said he would be killing his career.

Seems long term people who make money in this city have to now he connected to government in some way (health, education, CRA, city hall etc).

davidcappi
Mar 22, 2017, 8:11 PM
To Me the biggest issue with this city continues to be lack of jobs for university educated people, I moved to Burlington because our company moved out office.

I'd argue that has more to do with the fact that there are way too many people with degrees right now, and that a degree on its own isn't merit enough for a good job these days.

But to keep the thread on topic, yeah, the rents in the investor-bought units will likely go down in price. It'll probably piss off people who intend to live in the building, but whatever. Welcome to the 21st century.

Zmonkey
Mar 23, 2017, 1:31 PM
I'd argue that has more to do with the fact that there are way too many people with degrees right now, and that a degree on its own isn't merit enough for a good job these days.

But to keep the thread on topic, yeah, the rents in the investor-bought units will likely go down in price. It'll probably piss off people who intend to live in the building, but whatever. Welcome to the 21st century.

The issue wasn't finding people with degrees, it was keeping them. They all wanted to go to the GTA and cluster together because people wanted to go. We had new grad's leaving us after 6 months for 20K more in Mississauga or Vaughn.

Companies followed suite.

To me that is the biggest issue with the city, Corporate seem to stop at Burlington and if you ever want Downtown to really grow you need some of these companies to reach out to this area.

Rent's will stay well priced in Hamilton for a long time for that reason, new build condo rents will all be cheaper than even Burlington or Milton.

hamilton23
Mar 23, 2017, 3:21 PM
I'm predicting dozens of these to show up on Kijiji at obscene rents once occupancy starts.


Only 15% of buyers are renting their units out.

hamilton23
Mar 23, 2017, 3:23 PM
Also, AirBnB rentals will not be allowed as per property management.

hamilton23
Mar 23, 2017, 3:24 PM
Most buyers are looking to make the core their new home, and/or looking to downsize from a house.

Most of our buyers will be the actual tenants of their units.

mattgrande
Mar 23, 2017, 6:40 PM
The issue wasn't finding people with degrees, it was keeping them. They all wanted to go to the GTA and cluster together because people wanted to go. We had new grad's leaving us after 6 months for 20K more in Mississauga or Vaughn.

Maybe the problem isn't the city, it's the wage?

interr0bangr
Mar 23, 2017, 7:46 PM
I just got a job in Hamilton that's about 20k less than I make in Toronto. Worth it to me so I can avoid the 4 hours a day I spend commuting and $5000 a year I spend on the GO Train.

davidcappi
Mar 23, 2017, 8:51 PM
I just got a job in Hamilton that's about 20k less than I make in Toronto. Worth it to me so I can avoid the 4 hours a day I spend commuting and $5000 a year I spend on the GO Train.


Toronto office life can be tough, and the commute makes it even harder. I did the same thing so I could enjoy my time here.

HamiltonBoyInToronto
Mar 23, 2017, 9:37 PM
companies like IBM are starting to move to dt Hamilton.... I think that more will follow... and to be honest I'd rather the mom and pop shops flourish and grow than be taken over by corporations... thats the kind of thing that makes Hamilton so special... as for people not moving to dt Hamilton... the trends seem to be saying otherwise

Zmonkey
Mar 24, 2017, 1:28 PM
Maybe the problem isn't the city, it's the wage?

I didn't explain it properly.

Everyone starts roughly at the same starting salary, mid 40's out of school. In GTA there are a ton of companies in our field, so after a couple years of experience you can go to a competitor for 20K more. We only needed a handful of people at that level so we kept losing people. So we kept losing say a 25 year old for 60K, and could not bring in someone from GTA since we didn't have a need.

We also had a harder time getting business from GTA clients since we were in Hamilton, it shouldn't make a difference but it did for us. Moving to Burlington brought in about 20% growth in top line sales in under a year, which mean you need more mid tier people who tend to be mid 20's. It was always seen as if you are in Hamilton you are a tier 2 company. It is stigma and perception more than reality, but it is an issue. I am not from Ontario originally and lived in Hamilton for about 6 years, I really liked it, but I didn't know if I would when I first got here.

IBM, which is a nice add to the city, is 100 people and coming because there is provincial money backing the work they are actually doing, and city money subsidizing the office space. Hopefully it leads to more money and companies coming but there is not a big swing of private money coming in as of yet.

Bringing it back to real-estate, that is my fear with all the construction. Most of it is being bought by investors outside Hamilton, we will flood the market and once they are done it will look like we can't support condo's. You need a healthy young professional group to be able to afford all these condos, not sure if that is growing fast enough to absorb all this construction.

oldcoote
Mar 24, 2017, 1:34 PM
I didn't explain it properly.
We also had a harder time getting business from GTA clients since we were in Hamilton, it shouldn't make a difference but it did for us. Moving to Burlington brought in about 20% growth in top line sales in under a year, which mean you need more mid tier people who tend to be mid 20's. It was always seen as if you are in Hamilton you are a tier 2 company. It is stigma and perception more than reality, but it is an issue. I am not from Ontario originally and lived in Hamilton for about 6 years, I really liked it, but I didn't know if I would when I first got here.


This is interesting.

thomax
Mar 24, 2017, 6:59 PM
http://i.imgur.com/nf8g6ZJ.jpg
Residences of the Royal Connaught Construction | 3/23/2017 (https://www.instagram.com/p/BSAF-W1BFPm/) by everydayart.every.day (https://www.instagram.com/everydayart.every.day/), on Instagram

The Gore
Mar 24, 2017, 8:03 PM
Looks Great!
Wonder how the progress in leasing the retail space is going?

GeneralLeeTPHLS
Mar 24, 2017, 8:09 PM
That spandrelous addition is unfortunate but overall not bad!

hamilton23
Mar 25, 2017, 2:27 PM
Looks Great!
Wonder how the progress in leasing the retail space is going?

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HamiltonBoyInToronto
Mar 25, 2017, 2:27 PM
The top section of phase 2 ties in the colour and look of phase 1 with a modern twist ... I actually like it (although it prob should have been set back a bit more)

HamiltonBoyInToronto
Mar 25, 2017, 2:37 PM
I didn't explain it properly.


IBM, which is a nice add to the city, is 100 people and coming because there is provincial money backing the work they are actually doing, and city money subsidizing the office space. Hopefully it leads to more money and companies coming but there is not a big swing of private money coming in as of yet.

Bringing it back to real-estate, that is my fear with all the construction. Most of it is being bought by investors outside Hamilton, we will flood the market and once they are done it will look like we can't support condo's. You need a healthy young professional group to be able to afford all these condos, not sure if that is growing fast enough to absorb all this construction.

I don't think we should be waiting for this big swing of private money - the beauty of Hamilton is that it has been a grass roots movement and it is growing privately - IBM is only bringing 100 people but that is still 100 more people who will spend money and experience Hamilton

The real-estate market is full of investors (yes) however, there are numerous people (like myself) who are moving back to Hamilton and buying property to live in.

hamilton23
Mar 25, 2017, 7:26 PM
Phase 2 is officially 70% sold after less than one month of sales.

King&James
Mar 25, 2017, 8:36 PM
Phase 2 is officially 70% sold after less than one month of sales.

Expect the next Phase to be released very very soon ;)

Great to hear that - Phase 3 will really change the dynamic - hope to see that one going up in 2018!

davidcappi
Mar 27, 2017, 4:03 PM
spandrelous

New favourite word.

hamilton23
Mar 27, 2017, 4:17 PM
That spandrelous addition is unfortunate but overall not bad!

Have you been to the Upper Penthouse level?

Just curious... as you seem to believe there won't be any spandrels on the Upper Penthouse level still. In fact, there are many many spandrels on this level. The addition next to the spandreld portion brings in a nice mix of modern and traditional, old school architecture.

durandy
Mar 27, 2017, 5:10 PM
Does no one else find this penthouse really jarring and incompatible? I don't see any unifying characteristics aside from taupe.

bvbborussia
Mar 27, 2017, 5:13 PM
Does no one else find this penthouse really jarring and incompatible? I don't see any unifying characteristics aside from taupe.

I thought the same the other day when I looked at for the first time in a while. It looks very abrupt when compared to the details of the previous roof line below.

thomax
Mar 27, 2017, 5:22 PM
Does no one else find this penthouse really jarring and incompatible? I don't see any unifying characteristics aside from taupe.

I've never been a fan of it, and everyone I've talked to about it hates it. The original plan to twin the existing west penthouse was much better. The current addition looks like a basic suburban low-rise plopped onto a beautifully restored building.

CaptainKirk
Mar 27, 2017, 5:33 PM
I like the modern addition just fine. the original cornice really "protects" the original look, and if anything, the modern contrast helps bring attention to it.

To me it's symbolic of Hamilton's renaissance.

hamilton23
Mar 27, 2017, 6:18 PM
I like the modern addition just fine. the original cornice really "protects" the original look, and if anything, the modern contrast helps bring attention to it.

To me it's symbolic of Hamilton's renaissance.

This!. Not to mention all of those new units in the additions have been sold...the actual response from buyers, visitors to our sales centre, major construction and architecture professionals has been overwhelmingly positive about the additions :)

markbarbera
Mar 27, 2017, 7:23 PM
Does no one else find this penthouse really jarring and incompatible? I don't see any unifying characteristics aside from taupe.

This is the general sentiment I hear when discussing the downtown. It was an unfortunate decision by the developer to go with such a jarring cap to a historical building. The site would have been much better served if the penthouse was designed with homage to the architecture of the original building it sits atop, and the modern architecture was restricted to the new towers only. I would also have rather the develop chose to brick the south walls and the new west wing rather than using slab concrete forms that mimic brickwork, but come across as cheap exterior finish that really don't suit this grand dame.

hamilton23
Mar 27, 2017, 7:26 PM
This is the general sentiment I hear when discussing the downtown. It was an unfortunate decision by the developer to go with such a jarring cap to a historical building. The site would have been much better served if the penthouse was designed with homage to the architecture of the original building it sits atop, and the modern architecture was restricted to the new towers only.

Opinions are what makes the world go round. The problem with the opinion some of you have regarding the penthouse and other addition doesn't ring true for most Hamiltonians, purchasers and potential buyers at RC... Not gonna knock the opinion you have, just saying most people disagree with your sentiment

king10
Mar 27, 2017, 8:24 PM
Opinions are what makes the world go round. The problem with the opinion some of you have regarding the penthouse and other addition doesn't ring true for most Hamiltonians, purchasers and potential buyers at RC... Not gonna knock the opinion you have, just saying most people disagree with your sentiment

Are you going to knock every single semi negative post about the development?

This thead is turning into something like Russian state driven propaganda. The sales pitch routine is growing old(and based on sales isnt needed).

IMO the addition looks hastly tacked on and does not fit in well with the rest of the building(no matter how fast they sold).

Glad its selling well though. The downtown needs more ppl with disposable income in it.

GeneralLeeTPHLS
Mar 27, 2017, 8:28 PM
I don't mean spandrel, it just looks like spandrel.....by all means, I'm not bashing the developer or Hamilton. I just think the penthouse addition could've been a bit more in tune with the architecture of the original hotel...it clashes design-wise. I'm pretty impressed with the restoration efforts, and the next few phases.

hamilton23
Mar 27, 2017, 8:56 PM
Are you going to knock every single semi negative post about the development?

This thead is turning into something like Russian state driven propaganda. The sales pitch routine is growing old(and based on sales isnt needed).

IMO the addition looks hastly tacked on and does not fit in well with the rest of the building(no matter how fast they sold).

Glad its selling well though. The downtown needs more ppl with disposable income in it.


Did you read my last comment King 10? Haha. I stated that opinions are welcomed. I'm simply pointing out facts compared to online message board posts!

hamilton23
Mar 27, 2017, 9:00 PM
I don't mean spandrel, it just looks like spandrel.....by all means, I'm not bashing the developer or Hamilton. I just think the penthouse addition could've been a bit more in tune with the architecture of the original hotel...it clashes design-wise. I'm pretty impressed with the restoration efforts, and the next few phases.

I misunderstood! My bad.

The spandreld top of the building is actually restored on the penthouse level!

king10
Mar 27, 2017, 11:14 PM
Did you read my last comment King 10? Haha. I stated that opinions are welcomed. I'm simply pointing out facts compared to online message board posts!

So yes.

hamilton23
Mar 27, 2017, 11:39 PM
So yes.

Why don't you PM me :)

bvbborussia
Mar 28, 2017, 1:23 AM
Did you read my last comment King 10? Haha. I stated that opinions are welcomed. I'm simply pointing out facts compared to online message board posts!

What facts?

You're selling too hard. It's a nice project and they have a good thing going on. There's no need to defend every aspect of this project.