SHANGHAI | World Financial Center | 1,614 FT / 492 M | 101 FLOORS

[High Pointer]

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[James Raymond]

Moyan808 new renderings. WFC from different angles.
http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/11/526/592_o.jpg


Hey! That's just my SWFC diagram resized into the picture with a slight modification to add the hole!:hell:
http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=7609&drawingID=26821

[JACKinBeantown]

Hey James Raymond... why don't you re-do it yourself? That way you can scale it correctly. It looks too tall in that composite photo/rendering.

[avcellvs]

Hey! That's just my SWFC diagram resized into the picture with a slight modification to add the hole! :hell:

Hey Jame$™ ! :hilarious
A$ long a$ thi$ i$ not a ©ommer©ial ha©king of a ©opyright, I™ $ee no evil ! :no:
I$n't internet about $haring thing$ ? :rolleyes:

[James Raymond]

You're missing the point. He took a copyrighted drawing without permission, placed in a photo, and claimed it to be his own new rendering. That's what I'm peeved about.

Anyway, carry on...:rolleyes:

[tuy]

Can you prove that it was your drawing that was used? I see some similiarities, but maybe it is only because it is of the same building.

[Beyond 1000]

What is this the internet police? Just enjoy the show.

[Razqal]

was that drawing TRULY copyrighted? cuz don't u have to buy the license for that or go thru legal means?

[James Raymond]

Can you prove that it was your drawing that was used? I see some similiarities, but maybe it is only because it is of the same building.

Not to drag it on, but answering your questions...

-Yes, because of the hourglass curve of the core toward the top. I specifically put that there because I knew the core became thinner, but it's not accurate by any means, not to mention the inner structural bracing above it.

-No, I'm not playing the role, but I put effort into my drawings, and I don't appreciate someone ripping them off and claiming them as their own work (same goes for mp3 sharing, IMO)

-Any diagram posted on this site is copyrighted, and legal action can follow for anyone who steals one of them.


I won't go any further than this. It should be blatantly easy to understand that the person who created these images can't respect other people's hard work and follow certain rules.

[/Rant Over]:nuts:

[avcellvs]

March 24th 2005. Cityrain has posted news pix on the cameraunion forum :

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/11/559/591_o.jpg

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/11/559/592_o.jpg

[JACKinBeantown]

Why is it that foundation construction in Asia seems to always involve a round hole, as opposed to western foundation construction in which the foundation pit is basically the same shape as the building. Does it have something to do with a circular wall extending an equal outward force in all directions and is therefore stronger?

[Fabb]

Interesting theory.
Although I know only three of them in Asia (US7, SWFC and 2IFC). And nothing that tall has been built oustide Asia in a long, long time.

[avcellvs]

March 25th 2005. Is it the crane been erected ? :crazy:

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/11/578/311_o.jpg

[tuy]

Looks like a crane to me. It will be interesting to see how many cranes they use.

[colemonkee]

Looks like a tower crane. That swimming pool's about to be filled!

[Fabb]

In another two months, the swimming pool will be no more than a vague memory.

[avcellvs]

March 29th 2005. A serie of photos by cityrain.

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/12/60/77_o.jpg

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/12/60/78_o.jpg

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/12/60/79_o.jpg

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/12/60/80_o.jpg

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/12/60/81_o.jpg

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/12/60/82_o.jpg

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/12/60/83_o.jpg

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/12/60/84_o.jpg

[avcellvs]

March 29th 2005. Another cameraunion forum guy, dogwing, posted these two nice pix of the monster used to erect the crane.

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/12/61/162.jpg

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/12/61/163.jpg

[Jonovision]

Awesome. Great to see the real crane going up!

[tuy]

It is really cool to also see the closeup pictures of the construction and the staging areas.

I also have enjoyed seeing the construction progress of the buildings in the background.

[avcellvs]

April 8th 2005. Cityrain has posted a new pic :

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/12/291/490_o.jpg

[Fabb]

The construction site has never been more active. That's great !

[xiahoudun]

Avcellvs, any idea how long it will take them until the hole with underground floors will be finished, and they can start from the first floor and up? Will it take them 2 months or 3?

[avcellvs]

No, I don't. This is the first supertall construction I watch. The yard seems very busy now after mounths of (visually) uncertain action. I remember dchen predicted that when construction would start, the building will rise quickly.

April 8th 2005. Rare angle from an appartment in the Yanlord Garden residential complex.

http://image44.webshots.com/45/8/68/57/315986857teKweQ_ph.jpg

[Fabb]

I think that the constuction will rise really fast after half a dozen floors will be built. Then, each new floor will be somewhat similar to the previous one.

[dchen]

the SWFC cameraunion thread is pretty active these days. There are two latest messages posted there that forumers in this forum may be insterested too.
1. the core may rise above ground level in Jun (dogwing)
2. the lower portion of the obvservation bridge will be covered by glass acccording to yet another new design modification (lucasleon)
(courtesy of the authors in parentheses)

avcellvs, i will try to keep you updated if there is any interesting news in chinese posted there. by the way, are you still using webpage translation to figure out the chinese text?

[avcellvs]

the lower portion of the observation bridge will be covered by glass acccording to yet another new design modification
This is sad, I like the circle better. Does this news come from an official source or is it a mere extrapolation from the glass observation bridge rendering.

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/12/375/253_o.jpg



I will try to keep you updated if there is any interesting news in chinese posted there. by the way, are you still using webpage translation to figure out the chinese text?
Yes, please do because I'll never use one of those crazy translaters, too much interpretation is necessary to reconstruct a meaning from their strange outputs. They are not reliable in any way, except for funtime.

[avcellvs]

Here is the new top rendering that has been posted on the cameraunion forum. I don't know if it is an official rendering or a quick Photoshop editing by a member of the forum, after the glass observation deck pic had been posted a mounth earlier. Take the news with suspicion, no to feed one of those pointless internet rumours... :sly

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/12/413/578.jpg

[Fabb]

I wouldn't be surprised.
The circular hole was controversial because it was a japanese symbol. The new design should make the chinese authorities happier.

[High Pointer]

I know the whole Chinese controversy is a good reason to change the hole. Even so, the new design just doesn't do it for me--it gives the impression of someone biting their lip.

[Fabb]

Maybe the bridge was likely to be structurally unsound.

[avcellvs]

April 15th 2005

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/12/439/538_o.jpg

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/12/439/536_o.jpg

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/12/439/537_o.jpg

[Fabb]

The area seems like it's covered in snow.
So late ?

[avcellvs]

No snow, I just had to force the contrast because weather is very foggy in Shanghai today.

[dchen]

The author of the photos has also reminded forumers in the original forum that the red chinese words on the wall in the foreground in the last photo states the target completion date will be early 2008.

[Fabb]

That makes sense.
Three years of construction after the foundations was about what it took in the case of 2IFC.

[avcellvs]

April 22th 2005.

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/12/595/1_o.jpg

[tuy]

Almost out of the hole.

[Razqal]

I'd be interested in knowing how Chinese citizens feel about this building since it was designed by a Japanese company given the current explosive situation between China and Japan. Would people throw rocks at it after it's been constructed?

[Fabb]

I'm sure that most chinese people are aware of the japanese investments in China... and probably grateful for them.

[colemonkee]

Oh snap! Someone needs to crawl over to the edge of that hole and see if those beems are breaking the plane of the rim. If they are, several bottles of champagne are in need of immediate uncorking...

[avcellvs]

I think they do ! Above ground ! Not much but they definitively do :crazy:

[avcellvs]

April 29th 2005.

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/13/112/467_o.jpg

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/13/112/468_o.jpg

[tuy]

Some of the beams are definitely above ground level. I think that we can officially say that the tower is headed up.

[colemonkee]

Commence with the uncorking of the champagne bottles!!! :cheers: :banana: :cucumber: :carrot: :leek:

[Jaroslaw]

I seem to recall that US7 is all concrete, while this look like it'll be steel. In that case, Shanghai will top out first...

[JACKinBeantown]

Funny, I don't think it has actually risen above ground level, but it is obviously starting to go up. Sweet!

[mewonlottery]

looks like it's gonna pop out of the ground soon....

[High Pointer]

Just think where this building will be in a week...a month...a year...

(Smart@$$ answer: the same place, unless you get a really big moving van)

[giallo]

Now the real fun starts. I can't wait!

[avcellvs]

May 11th 2005. The footprint takes shapes !

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/13/416/322_o.jpg

[Fabb]

It looks like the core won't have a square section.

[vincent]

it is square with 45 degree corner cut.

[xiahoudun]

Any new pictures of SWFC this week?

[coth]

yeah, it's interesting, 10 days almost gone

[avcellvs]

May 20th 2005. Cityrain has just delivered new pix...

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/13/609/611_o.jpg

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/13/609/612_o.jpg

[Fabb]

Plenty of new stuff in the pit.
Good !

[avcellvs]

May 16th 2005, from the Oriental Pearl.

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/13/610/30.jpg

Full resolution : http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/13/610/30_o.jpg

[Jonovision]

WOW. The pit has been completly filled in!

[innov8]

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/12/413/578.jpg [/QUOTE]

With Taipei 101 right next to Lujiazui, World Financila Center
they look like a couple glass sculptures for a world of giants.

Impressive... I hope to some day visit to see these
giant brother or cousins... you know what I mean :)

[mikey johnson]

That's Jin Mao, not Taipei 101. 101 is in Taiwan.

[Razqal]

And Taipei is the capital of the country, Taiwan.

[teddybear]

This is more beautiful than 101 in the province of Taiwan.

[Fabb]

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/12/413/578.jpg

With Taipei 101 right next to Lujiazui, World Financila Center
they look like a couple glass sculptures for a world of giants.


But not for ordinary pedestrians.
The lack of street life bothers me.

[HforHenry]

And Taipei is the capital of the country, Taiwan
------------------
Taiwan is not a country.. it is part of China .

[Matace]

^Don't ruin this thread with stupid and pointless arguements like that. You should know better. Don't bring politics into a building.

[Inspire]

^Don't ruin this thread with stupid and pointless arguements like that. You should know better. Don't bring politics into a building.

Ya, so many desparate Chinese.:hilarious

[JACKinBeantown]

These buildings are both nice additions for the country of China, as is Taipei 101 for the country of Taiwan.

[Razqal]

These buildings are both nice additions for the country of China, as is Taipei 101 for the country of Taiwan.

Very well said. I couldn't agree more!! Both are impressive buildings designed by well-accomplished architects. Local native Taiwanese architect C.Y. Lee designed Taipei 101, and foreign American architecture firm KPF designed Shanghai World Financial Center and funded by Japanese developer the Mori Group.

[try 2B funny]

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/12/413/578.jpg

With Taipei 101 right next to Lujiazui, World Financila Center
they look like a couple glass sculptures for a world of giants.


But not for ordinary pedestrians.
The lack of street life bothers me.

The typical residential blocks just a couple blocks away bother me more.

[JACKinBeantown]

Quite a contrast between blocks.

[Fabb]

Those residential blocks are mediocre, but they will probably evolve into something more luxurious.

[avcellvs]

May 27th 2005. Ground floor construction !

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/14/153/135_o.jpg

[teddybear]

We will see the first floor above ground very soon

[avcellvs]

June 1st 2005, a new post by cityrain

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/14/297/295_o.jpg


A new rendering by moyan808, from Pudong Avenue

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/14/297/294.jpg

[Fabb]

I'm very impressed by both the images above.
The rendering makes it look so tall and slender ! It's like poor old Jin Mao was never the big one of the area.

[avcellvs]

June 4th 2005

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/14/431/49_o.jpg

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/14/431/50_o.jpg

[JACKinBeantown]

Sweet!

[STR]

It's officially above ground. I never thought I'd see the day.

[deejer8]

It's officially above ground. I never thought I'd see the day. :hyper: :boogy: :worship: :tyty:

[deejer8]

So it appears that from these last few photos, the progress is happening about 1 floor/week, week and a half? Granted, this construction seems to have been at lightening speed compared to how long we've had to wait for ANYTHING to be done on the sight... I am hoping it will stay amped up going forward, though. Anyone else think this is a possibility? (or am I daydreaming?:nuts: )

[choyak1]

COOL!!!!!!!!!! Finally we see the construction of this beautiful building!! It has been proposed for like 10 years already. I can't wait to see it rise

[avcellvs]

June 10th 2005, latest pix posted by Cityrain.

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/15/110/83_o.jpg

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/15/110/93_o.jpg

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/15/110/94_o.jpg

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/15/110/95_o.jpg

[Fabb]

In the first picture, the construction workers look small like ants. The site must be huge !

[coth]

but where is the core? i see just deep hole on its place...?

[deejer8]

also, why does the footprint appear to be round when the base of the tower is square?:???:

[James Raymond]

^The base is a large circular-shaped mall/plaza thingy, from which the tower rises. From the renderings, it looks to be only 6 or 8 floors tall.

[avcellvs]

June 10th 2005

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/15/136/463_o.jpg

[deejer8]

:eek: That's an AWESOME picture of Jin Mao! It will be incredible to see these two giants standing right across the street from one another!:eek:

[lakegz]

how much longer are they gonna work on the base for, geeesh, ive been excited to see them break over ground for the past year.

[-GR2NY-]

certainly this center column cant be the entire length of the building!!!??? Its got the be space for elevator shafts yes?

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/15/110/93_o.jpg

[banned]

certainly this center column cant be the entire length of the building!!!??? Its got the be space for elevator shafts yes?

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/15/110/93_o.jpg

It's not. Look at this image http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/15/110/83_o.jpg and you can see clearly that it is...in the center. The picture you quoted is just a close up

[alejandro]

Inmense, huge, enormous.

No word to describe it, just that it will be a Shanghai icon, an a Chinesse monument.

This tower rocks!!!

:tup: :rock: :tup:

[avcellvs]

June 22th 2005. Two guys (SWFC2 & dogwind) have just posted these pix on the cameraunion forum.

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/15/282/175_o.jpg

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/15/282/176_o.jpg

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/15/282/177.jpg

[teddybear]

Beginning stage of construction above ground!

[vincent]

wow, SWFC definitely will catch up with US7 in less than two weeks.

[deejer8]

omigosh, omigosh, omigosh:crazy:

[avcellvs]

June 22th 2005. More pix by dogwind.

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/15/346/506.jpg

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/15/346/507.jpg

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/15/346/508.jpg



Thanks to dchen for these two chinese forums urls :

http://bbs.sinoaec.com/forum/detail1348318_17.html

http://bbs.tongji.net/index.php?prog=topic::flat&tid=268503

[avcellvs]

June 19th 2005.

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/15/347/584.jpg

High resolution : http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/15/347/584_o.jpg
 

[mewonlottery]

damn...it gets more and more exciting...