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Niftybox
Jul 1, 2020, 1:18 AM
Just a plan for now, but I think you're gonna see a few towers around 475 feet.

https://urbanize.la/post/fox-studios-plans-future-development

Oh yeah back in 2016, Century City and the surrounding area were just babies! That proposal might be dead, no rumblings for quite some time.

LA21st
Jul 1, 2020, 1:39 AM
Not necessarily It's a long term plan. I never saw anything that would stop it.

It would likely be used for entertainment companies, and there doesn't seem a slow down for that space.

RST500
Jul 1, 2020, 11:25 PM
A $2-billion condo-hotel complex bursting with gardens comes to Beverly Hills (https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2020-06-28/prime-beverly-hills-spot-slated-for-a-2-billion-condo-hotel-complex)

https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/c229cbb/2147483647/strip/true/crop/3000x1688+0+0/resize/840x473!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F0c%2F7d%2Fdde7a1b24e64a7de3a07903f640d%2Fone-beverly-hills-aerial-view.jpg

I'm impressed with all the ongoing proposals in LA taking into account talk fo an urban exodus and economic forecasts. It could just be that the amount of wealth in LA's favored quarter is enough to keep that particular area economically viable.

SF has not scene any new highrise proposals that I'm aware of since the pandemic;

colemonkee
Jul 2, 2020, 3:38 PM
Not necessarily It's a long term plan. I never saw anything that would stop it.

It would likely be used for entertainment companies, and there doesn't seem a slow down for that space.

I would expect significant changes to the plan as it was drawn up in 2016. The property still remains in the hands of the Murdoch family, and it's primary value is still in real estate, but that plan to add more offices likely won't move forward any time soon given the type of companies they would have targeted at the time have all inked deals around town in pretty high-profile developments. The latest article on this is from 2019.

https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-disney-fox-lot-real-estate-20190319-story.html

Easy
Jul 2, 2020, 8:30 PM
Speaking of 5411 Wilshire, the developer has put up a website with updated renderings. The project is now called The Mirabelle.

https://5411wilshire.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/G-8.jpg

Looks like they've lowered the total amount of parking from 548 spaces to 477, and shrunk the parking podium. Compare these new renderings to the older ones:

The project looks much better as a result. This is gonna be beautiful!

https://5411wilshire.com/

I attended the virtual presentation/public forum and the developer mentioned that he expects that this will be one of the most 4 or 5 expensive buildings in LA. Not sure why that surprised me, but it did.

pwright1
Jul 3, 2020, 5:00 AM
Pico and Figueroa above ground now.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50067818326_15d01e4425_b.jpg

Illithid Dude
Jul 3, 2020, 5:02 AM
Thank you for the update but in the future remember to post DTLA project updates in the DTLA City Compilation thread.

Niftybox
Jul 3, 2020, 5:44 AM
I attended the virtual presentation/public forum and the developer mentioned that he expects that this will be one of the most 4 or 5 expensive buildings in LA. Not sure why that surprised me, but it did.

It's quite expensive for the relatively small size of its footprint I guess. So what do you think are the chances of this huge project being approved without major changes such as to the height, overall size, shape etc?

Niftybox
Jul 3, 2020, 5:58 AM
Pico and Figueroa above ground now.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50067818326_15d01e4425_b.jpg

Love this project, that place will always be packed along with Circa. Prime real estate going vertical adding plenty of density to the chain of towers from DTLA. Another project across the streets needs approval and it's quite a bit taller I believe. I'm also itching for 925 S. Figueroa to get approval, or at least hear something about it, that's one of my favorite designs downtown.

Zapatan
Jul 3, 2020, 4:31 PM
Is there a thread for the Pico and Fig. tower? Can't seem to find it, and that's still a 500+ correct?

I'm also itching for 925 S. Figueroa to get approval

Yea that'd be awesome. What's the status on 1045 Olive?

There are a lot of cool proposals in LA but they seems to just drop off the face of the planet and never be heard from again.

Illithid Dude
Jul 3, 2020, 10:14 PM
It's quite expensive for the relatively small size of its footprint I guess. So what do you think are the chances of this huge project being approved without major changes such as to the height, overall size, shape etc?

I think he meant in terms of consumer cost, not construction cost.

Easy
Jul 3, 2020, 10:17 PM
I think he meant in terms of consumer cost, not construction cost.

Yes, it was in regards to how much apartments will cost.

Quixote
Jul 4, 2020, 9:32 PM
Is there a thread for the Pico and Fig. tower? Can't seem to find it, and that's still a 500+ correct?

This isn't the correct thread, but Fig + Pico is a two-tower project (both hotels). The 42-story building will rise 529 feet, the 25-story 326 feet.

EDIT: Created a thread.

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=243050

112597jorge
Jul 6, 2020, 7:03 PM
4 Highrises planned at the North Hollywood Metro center

https://urbanize.la/post/environmental-review-begins-1-billion-development-north-hollywood-station

pwright1
Jul 8, 2020, 10:52 AM
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50090059557_fe0c6028c2_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50089362473_188a64548b_b.jpg

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https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50089381288_a9121831f6_b.jpg

ChelseaFC
Jul 13, 2020, 1:57 AM
Warner Bros. Second Century Expansion

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcwQHNqXkAY_Mep?format=jpg&name=medium
https://twitter.com/bioreconstruct

https://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/2018_article_gallery_image_2000w/public/field/image/gehry%20warner%20bros%201_1.jpg?itok=vWfokOFo

CaliNative
Jul 13, 2020, 6:52 AM
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50090059557_fe0c6028c2_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50089362473_188a64548b_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50089243588_038f2a3cf9_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50089381288_a9121831f6_b.jpg

The twins look very close to top out. Pw, is it your impression that they are now a bit taller than the theme triangle towers across the street? If they are indeed 600' as some reports said, they should be (I believe the triangles are 571'). Some of the renderings made them look a bit shorter. The new tallest in CC & outside DTLA? Maybe. The latest 2020 World Almanac didn't even have them on the list of L.A. tall buildings above 500', even though buildings under construction are supposed to be listed. Even the city diagrams link on skyscrapers page doesn't give a height, although it does say 46 floors. Seems like the want to keep the final height a secret. Won't be a secret much longer. At 600' they would be as tall as the famous cylindrical Marina City towers in Chicago, which were one of the early pioneers of a concrete core structure back in the mid 1960s.

pwright1
Jul 13, 2020, 3:27 PM
CaliNative i honestly don't think so. i was at the Grove parking garage on Saturday and snapped this pic. Still looks a tad shorter than the twins.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50108687527_daf121295f_b.jpg

colemonkee
Jul 13, 2020, 3:44 PM
^ I believe they are sitting about 10 feet lower, elevation, wise. Ave of the Stars is kind of the crest of a hill, and the ground slopes downward when you go east and west of it. I believe the western direction slopes down a bit faster than going east. At least that's my experience working in Century Plaza Towers and walking over to the mall for about 2 years.

CaliNative
Jul 14, 2020, 4:11 AM
CaliNative i honestly don't think so. i was at the Grove parking garage on Saturday and snapped this pic. Still looks a tad shorter than the twins.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50108687527_daf121295f_b.jpg

^^^
From that location it appears they are shorter, but maybe that is a perspective thing, since the theme triangles are closer from this viewpoint. Plus as colemonkee says, the hotel towers are at a slightly lower elevation. Maybe they will tie the triangles in height, but I'm still hoping for 600'. Still have a bit before top out. Keep the good pics coming. We ex-LA'ers and pandemic stay at homers rely on them. The pic you took of DTLA with snowy Mt. Baldy was worthy of a postcard :)

PS everybody wear a mask & be careful. The virus is everywhere but hopefully we are at or near the peak, and things will get better soon as they did in Italy, Spain, NYC etc.

caligrad
Jul 15, 2020, 4:05 AM
Renderings revealed for Western Gateway development

https://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/2018_article_gallery_image_2000w/public/field/image/alexan%20long%20beach%2012.jpg?itok=RMVd588z (https://urbanize.la/post/details-emerge-long-beachs-westside-gateway-development)

Sooooo not sure when and how this happened so quickly but this apparently and quietly broke ground a month or 2 ago, i saw site prep I recall back in March I believe right when the virus was getting bad and its already peaking out of the ground.

The portion i saw under construction is sitting on the site where the 1st tower (21 floors) is supposed to go and whhat seems to be a portion of the low rise portion of the project. the Tower portion in the back ground , (Naturally) hasn't started yet and is still being used as a parking lot. For those not familiar, Long Beach is almost topped out with its new tallest building. THIS building however will be even taller than that one. So i'm not sure how quick Long Beach moves in the planning department but i think this was proposed no more than 2 years ago.

LosAngelesSportsFan
Jul 15, 2020, 5:28 AM
Awesome! Lbc looking great

hughfb3
Jul 15, 2020, 7:11 PM
I Mean........ I know Long Beach likes to step in as a substitute filming location for movies and Tv shows set in Miami/South Florida, but copying what was once Miami's tallest building (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Financial_Center) for almost 3 decades and making it their new tallest is a new level :haha: I love it though!!! It's always been one of my favorite post modern buildings. Go Long Beach!!! Ill be sure to take pictures and give an update of the site next time I go to visit my family.

https://images.law.com/image/EM/Southeast-Financial-Center-Article-201312171312.jpg

LA21st
Jul 16, 2020, 12:51 AM
I visited NOHO West today, and it's actually a decent addition for that area.

Also, Van Nuys is doing a good job with infill lately, if anyone has noticed. Victory, Sherman Way, Vanowen etc are looking better with modern condos and townhouses.
This stuff is flying under the radar, but it's great for the long run.

LA21st
Jul 16, 2020, 12:52 AM
Sooooo not sure when and how this happened so quickly but this apparently and quietly broke ground a month or 2 ago, i saw site prep I recall back in March I believe right when the virus was getting bad and its already peaking out of the ground.

The portion i saw under construction is sitting on the site where the 1st tower (21 floors) is supposed to go and whhat seems to be a portion of the low rise portion of the project. the Tower portion in the back ground , (Naturally) hasn't started yet and is still being used as a parking lot. For those not familiar, Long Beach is almost topped out with its new tallest building. THIS building however will be even taller than that one. So i'm not sure how quick Long Beach moves in the planning department but i think this was proposed no more than 2 years ago.

Wow, really cool.

112597jorge
Jul 17, 2020, 6:55 PM
Sooooo not sure when and how this happened so quickly but this apparently and quietly broke ground a month or 2 ago, i saw site prep I recall back in March I believe right when the virus was getting bad and its already peaking out of the ground.

The portion i saw under construction is sitting on the site where the 1st tower (21 floors) is supposed to go and whhat seems to be a portion of the low rise portion of the project. the Tower portion in the back ground , (Naturally) hasn't started yet and is still being used as a parking lot. For those not familiar, Long Beach is almost topped out with its new tallest building. THIS building however will be even taller than that one. So i'm not sure how quick Long Beach moves in the planning department but i think this was proposed no more than 2 years ago.

Also Onni 7 story and 20 story highrise is under construction in Downtown LB. Total of 3 highrises currently rising there, hopefully more break ground soon.

LA21st
Jul 17, 2020, 7:56 PM
That's really cool to see for LB. They're also adding a good amount of TOD near the blue line.

IMBY
Jul 18, 2020, 6:24 PM
So Long Beach is excluded from the CA Coastal Commission's ban on high rises along the CA coastline?

Kenchiku desu
Jul 21, 2020, 2:13 AM
Correct. Long Beach is one of the cities with an LCP (Local Coastal Plan) to guide development "in partnership" with the Coastal Commission.

Once LCP is certified, it gives a local jurisdiction latitude in approving projects and makes approval less onerous and more predictable for applicants / architects, provided the Coastal Act principals are upheld. If a project is particularly heinous, or if the City sets a policy it does't like, Coastal Commission can step in.

Other cities with LCPs I have done projects in include Malibu, Santa Monica, Venice neighborhood of LA, San Diego and Laguna Beach. It generally works well.

Tiorted9
Jul 21, 2020, 9:18 PM
More Long Beach development updates...

https://img.lbpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/10152148/BroadwayMagnolia-2.jpg

https://img.lbpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/20091739/BroadwayMagnolia-7194-1110x833.jpg

https://lbpost.com/longbeachize/addison-development-broadway-magnolia-2020

Steve8263
Jul 22, 2020, 11:17 PM
"Bombshell evidence" of fault lines, that can't be good.

Multiple Earthquake-Causing Fault Lines Found Under, Through Proposed Site Of New Hollywood Skyscrapers


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/multiple-earthquake-causing-fault-lines-found-under-through-proposed-site-of-new-hollywood-skyscrapers/ar-BB1741XD



https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/ccd2a0d/2147483647/strip/true/crop/2048x1152+0+0/resize/840x473!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F01%2F58%2F3e1b16cb4fa44f231230a20bf863%2Fla-1523495690-i348t0896k-snap-image

LAsam
Jul 22, 2020, 11:50 PM
"Bombshell evidence" of fault lines, that can't be good.

Well, it is Robert Silverstein being quoted, so it's not surprising he's saying something of this nature. I thought this USGS report came out a while ago.

caligrad
Jul 23, 2020, 12:20 AM
More Long Beach development updates...

https://img.lbpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/10152148/BroadwayMagnolia-2.jpg

https://img.lbpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/20091739/BroadwayMagnolia-7194-1110x833.jpg

https://lbpost.com/longbeachize/addison-development-broadway-magnolia-2020

Yeah i have to backtrack. Sorry folks. THIS is what I saw getting built. The lot right next door is where the other massive project is supposed to go. Not sure if this has any connection to the other project but they are part of the same massive parking lot.

caligrad
Jul 23, 2020, 12:23 AM
"Bombshell evidence" of fault lines, that can't be good.

Multiple Earthquake-Causing Fault Lines Found Under, Through Proposed Site Of New Hollywood Skyscrapers


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/multiple-earthquake-causing-fault-lines-found-under-through-proposed-site-of-new-hollywood-skyscrapers/ar-BB1741XD



https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/ccd2a0d/2147483647/strip/true/crop/2048x1152+0+0/resize/840x473!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F01%2F58%2F3e1b16cb4fa44f231230a20bf863%2Fla-1523495690-i348t0896k-snap-image

I thought they already discovered these same fault lines years ago and that's why the original plan was cancelled and the new towers had their footprints shifted.

JerellO
Jul 23, 2020, 5:07 AM
"Bombshell evidence" of fault lines, that can't be good.

Multiple Earthquake-Causing Fault Lines Found Under, Through Proposed Site Of New Hollywood Skyscrapers


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/multiple-earthquake-causing-fault-lines-found-under-through-proposed-site-of-new-hollywood-skyscrapers/ar-BB1741XD



https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/ccd2a0d/2147483647/strip/true/crop/2048x1152+0+0/resize/840x473!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F01%2F58%2F3e1b16cb4fa44f231230a20bf863%2Fla-1523495690-i348t0896k-snap-image

Isn’t the safest for skyscrapers to be built on top of the fault lines? Since waves increase in power the farther they move out from the epicenter?? In SD they built these twin towers above a fault line and the ground floor park space is even called Fault Line Park with an art installation showing where the line runs through

delts145
Jul 23, 2020, 11:45 AM
Great to see Downtown Long Beach hitting its stride. It's been a while since I've been down there. When this whole COVID mess is over I'm going to make it a point to visit the downtown area. So much potential with Downtown Long Beach.

LA21st
Jul 23, 2020, 9:14 PM
Same. I'm glad construction is still going during this stupid virus epidemic.

caligrad
Jul 28, 2020, 2:56 AM
^^^ Yeah I advise everyone to take a trip down. It looks drastically different than it did even 5 years ago. A friend of mine moved downtown 2 months ago, and to hear him compare it to Brooklyn was kinda interesting, he's from NYC. A few micro breweries have opened up downtown along Broadway, cider houses, new trendy spots. However, I do fear that Covid will upend all of the progress. Here's hoping it doesn't. Long Beach has soooooo much potential to be a solid 3rd city of So-Cal. IF the Angel Stadium relocation was real, I think THAT would have been enough to make Long Beach something it drastically needs to be, a major city center. No reason for it not to be when its nearly the same size as Atlanta plus or minus 20k people.

The only thing Long Beach needs is a new airport. Maybe built off shore by the breakwater where the water is still shallowish. a new second international airport is what the LA area needs since Bob hope, Long Beachs current, Ontario and John Wayne have no chance of expanding ever. Maybe sell the old airport to Disney for 2 new parks. A man can dream.

JerellO
Jul 28, 2020, 4:08 AM
^^^ Yeah I advise everyone to take a trip down. It looks drastically different than it did even 5 years ago. A friend of mine moved downtown 2 months ago, and to hear him compare it to Brooklyn was kinda interesting, he's from NYC. A few micro breweries have opened up downtown along Broadway, cider houses, new trendy spots. However, I do fear that Covid will upend all of the progress. Here's hoping it doesn't. Long Beach has soooooo much potential to be a solid 3rd city of So-Cal. IF the Angel Stadium relocation was real, I think THAT would have been enough to make Long Beach something it drastically needs to be, a major city center. No reason for it not to be when its nearly the same size as Atlanta plus or minus 20k people.

The only thing Long Beach needs is a new airport. Maybe built off shore by the breakwater where the water is still shallowish. a new second international airport is what the LA area needs since Bob hope, Long Beachs current, Ontario and John Wayne have no chance of expanding ever. Maybe sell the old airport to Disney for 2 new parks. A man can dream.

I never realized how nice Long Beach was, people don’t really talk about it.. at least not here in San Diego. It’s mostly just to Los Angeles and back with maybe a pit stop in Anaheim or Irvine for food. But I first explored Long Beach when I started dancing at Hamburger Mary’s in 2017, haven’t been back since though. Downtown has some beautiful architecture, not as much as LA but there’s a few gems. It almost feels like San Diego with its walkability to restaurants, shops, and bars and both having a nice waterfront

badrunner
Jul 28, 2020, 4:21 AM
I agree it feels like a mini San Diego. For a medium size coastal city, it has one of the cleanest downtowns I've ever seen as well.

LA21st
Jul 28, 2020, 4:45 AM
Its so underrated, and it gets swallowed up by LA. Most people don't know what's there. It has a decent amount to walkable districts outside of downtown too.
Chrisla is very knowledgeable about Long Beach, if he's still around.

Urbanize LA/Curbed LA (before it died) has nice updates of whats happening there.

CaliNative
Jul 29, 2020, 8:00 AM
Have the Century twins topped out yet? Must be close.

LAsam
Jul 29, 2020, 3:44 PM
Have the Century twins topped out yet? Must be close.

Good question. I was looking at them from Kenneth Hahn last weekend, and they had the appearance of being the tallest structures in CC now.

112597jorge
Jul 30, 2020, 12:43 AM
Good question. I was looking at them from Kenneth Hahn last weekend, and they had the appearance of being the tallest structures in CC now.

they look like the tallest from the 405 for sure

CaliNative
Jul 30, 2020, 12:51 AM
they look like the tallest from the 405 for sure I believe they are supposed to be 600' tall, which is about 30' taller than the triangle twins across the street. Do they still raise a tree and flag at topping out ceremonies? Why a tree? Will both of the towers get a topping out ceremony, or just one?

CaliNative
Jul 30, 2020, 1:20 AM
Good question. I was looking at them from Kenneth Hahn last weekend, and they had the appearance of being the tallest structures in CC now.

Is Kenneth Hahn park near where the Baldwin Hills reservoir used to be, where the dam broke in 1963? That was some flood.

LAsam
Jul 30, 2020, 6:08 PM
Is Kenneth Hahn park near where the Baldwin Hills reservoir used to be, where the dam broke in 1963? That was some flood.

Exactly! It's a really great area, with panoramic views from Palos Verdes to DTLA.

mdiederi
Aug 5, 2020, 7:36 PM
Tower cranes are finally removed from the Gerald Desmond bridge replacement project.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EerKUvFWoAIBG0Q?format=jpg&name=large
portsidesurvey https://twitter.com/newgdbridge/status/1291066703993024512

caligrad
Aug 6, 2020, 1:19 AM
That bridge cant come online fast enough. The port has been a messsssss and trips to San Pedro from Long Beach and other areas from the south are just sooooooo long now.

pwright1
Aug 6, 2020, 5:10 AM
Tower cranes are finally removed from the Gerald Desmond bridge replacement project.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EerKUvFWoAIBG0Q?format=jpg&name=large
portsidesurvey https://twitter.com/newgdbridge/status/1291066703993024512

This is one beautiful bridge. Wow!

pwright1
Aug 6, 2020, 5:32 AM
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