NEW YORK | 3 Hudson Blvd (The Girasole) | 987 FT | 56 FLOORS | ON HOLD

[Hudson11]

It hasn't been "The Girasole" for a long time. They dropped that moniker in favor of the new Hudson Boulevard address. One thing to look forward to is that this tower will finally completely activate Hudson Boulevard's first phase. 3 Hudson Boulevard and The Spiral will complete the *second block beyond the railyard. The Spitzer/Related tower to the north of The Spiral is also gearing up.

https://i.imgur.com/dAButWw.png

[NYguy]

Closer look:

https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/business5/uploads/yimby/original/3X/7/7/772479738adcfcdee4dce7a686479bdbbf8d914c.jpeg



It's still boring, but is now classy. Will be a nice background tower in HY.


It's still being outclassed by 50 Hudson and the Spiral. But our new supertall overlords are changing how we see skycrapers. In another time, perhaps, this would have materialized as a basic 700 - 800 footer. But the times have changed, and the skyline is rising to account for it. It may be a supertall, but it's still filler. I can still see it as a 700 ft building rising on one of the avenues of Manhattan, nothing special, but solid office stock. However, that's just how it appears for us. This building will have all the "bells and whistles" all of the more flashier looking towers will have for its tenants.

[NYguy]

A better look...


https://www.instagram.com/p/B7Yqa67gwkK/

The new design for #BXPNYC’s 3 Hudson Boulevard was unveiled today. This 1.85 million square foot tower, a partnership with @moiniangroup, will rise as the newest addition to the #HudsonYards District.



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[chris08876]

I kinda like it, IMO.

Goes well with the area. I think the trend with super talls from the fans perspective is that everything must be stellar, but this design aids the area in a way. Not tacky, not overly flashy, but something that is a nice side chick for the other towers, that fits into the group yah know.

Out of all the HY neighborhood towers, The Spiral is the one that somewhat looks out of place (but not in a bad way, just aesthetically relative to the other HY towers).

[JMKeynes]

A better look...


https://www.instagram.com/p/B7Yqa67gwkK/




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https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1/170315695.t1IpBCWf.r1b.jpg

Where are these renderings from? This tower looks great.

[Zapatan]

I like it too, nothing wrong with simplicity.

I think my main concern is that there are now 4 towers around 1000 feet in the same place, creating a plateau effect.

[JMKeynes]

I like it too, nothing wrong with simplicity.

I think my main concern is that there are now 4 towers around 1000 feet in the same place, creating a plateau effect.

I agree about the plateau. Not to mention, this tower will completely block the Spiral's Hudson River views.

Anyway, this is my favorite version of this tower. The initial torqued version was nice, but it was such a slight twist that its effect was diminished.

[chris08876]

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Credit: JC_Heights (https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-3-hudson-boulevard-987-ft-56-floors/199/399?u=chris08876)

[NYguy]

I like it too, nothing wrong with simplicity.

I think my main concern is that there are now 4 towers around 1000 feet in the same place, creating a plateau effect.


Boston Properties posted that on their instagram as the new renderings, so we should assume this is pretty much what we’re getting.



I agree about the plateau. Not to mention, this tower will completely block the Spiral's Hudson River views.


That was my concern about the height. The newer renders look a little better, but still supertall filler. Imagine 50 and the Spiral in that render. And Related has a second phase to go, including another large office tower in front of 55. This tower would completely dominate many skylines, but here it’s filler. I hope the lighting stays.

[chris08876]

The rendering also shares (Boston Properties) striking similarities to the one via the NY Post. So its the same tower.

[pianowizard]

On the bright side, the plateau may force future developers to build taller, if they want their skyscrapers to be more visible and/or to get better views. This could be how NYC will finally have a megatall!

[matt19215]

Are there any other sites in the Javits area that have enough air rights for a megatall?

[NYguy]

Are there any other sites in the Javits area that have enough air rights for a megatall?

Many of them could, in theory. There are no height limits in the area, and anything that tall wouldn’t have the large floorplates of the Hudson Yards towers. Besides that, the Penn Station district just to the east, and beyond that, midtown east.


A look at how the HY was originally zoned in sf (not gsf). Of course, both railyards were later revised to add more density. This is site 706A, the 4th of the “four corners” towers (50 Hudson, the Spiral, and 55 Hudson are the others).


https://a4.pbase.com/o9/06/102706/1/162659528.dBFQ2RKJ.sites2.JPG



https://a4.pbase.com/o6/06/102706/1/77328205.JHmGsBEQ.HudsonLots2.JPG



Imagine if Extell’s WPC had gotten built instead of 55, at 1,011 ft.


https://a4.pbase.com/o2/06/102706/1/106169519.BZzoH6Wz.wpc4b.jpg



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[chris08876]

The various changes to this development throughout the years.


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Credit: Springboss123_456 (https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-3-hudson-boulevard-987-ft-56-floors/199/409?u=chris08876)

[NYguy]

The various changes to this development throughout the years.


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Credit: Springboss123_456 (https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-3-hudson-boulevard-987-ft-56-floors/199/409?u=chris08876)


The one on the far left is Sherwood Equities design for the site that was sold, and is now the Spiral. The rest are 3 Hudson, a design that for years remained the same, then changed before you could get used to one design. But it's great to see all of these proposals on the west side finally seeing the light if day. Some things take longer, that's why I've never panicked about 2 WTC delays.



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[Visionist]

Not so relevant now, but the proper pronunciation of Girasole is "Jee-rah-soar-leh" with each of the syllables short and punchy.

[Prezrezc]

It has a 218 Liberty St feel.

[NYguy]

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I wouldn't have been mad at the version below, but we won't see major office towers as straightforward as this for a while, if at all...



https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1/170322812.K9FywuO3.D5D9B423FB954B8E9D4B2EB203F3F041.jpeg

[eXodius]

Not so relevant now, but the proper pronunciation of Girasole is "Jee-rah-soar-leh" with each of the syllables short and punchy.

And here I was pronouncing it as "gear-ah-sole" :D

Kinda wishing this tower wasn't blocking The Spiral! Seeing that from the waterfront with 3 Hudson beside it would've been sweet!

[Visionist]

I wouldn't have been mad at the version below, but we won't see major office towers as straightforward as this for a while, if at all...

https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1/170322812.K9FywuO3.D5D9B423FB954B8E9D4B2EB203F3F041.jpeg

I much prefer that to the current design. Much sleeker and more futuristic. Even better if it were a couple hundred feet or more higher.

[NYguy]

I much prefer that to the current design. Much sleeker and more futuristic. Even better if it were a couple hundred feet or more higher.

The sleekness of that design is it's appeal, for sure. Too many fat boys in the Hudson Yards. But that what it was planned for.

[patriotizzy]

I much prefer that to the current design. Much sleeker and more futuristic. Even better if it were a couple hundred feet or more higher.

A literal glass box is futuristic?

Fuck me right?

[NYguy]

Imagining the day when we can get this tower rising in this view....:cheers:



https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1/170261792.Sz0GzS0w.pict123119_117b.jpg



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[Zerton]

North of Hudson Yards will be known as "The Land of the Tall Boxes".

[aquablue]

North of Hudson Yards will be known as "The Land of the Tall Boxes".

Agree,Those big boxes are just austere and depressing lined up in a row like that. So disappointing!! Aloof and cold, this corporate alley is just not a great place.

[Zerton]

I wish they'd put ground floor retail all around the bases of these towers. But they're not.

[dropdeaded209]

it's like the new 6th avenue :yuck:

[NYguy]

^ It’s the new Park Ave, complete with a Foster designed tower. He needs to get one more there to make it a thing.



I wish they'd put ground floor retail all around the bases of these towers. But they're not.

The gf retail was put in the zoning. The Spiral had to get approval not that long ago for slightly less retail, but it will be there.

[citybooster]

NYGuy, do you have any idea how much retail overall within those towers? And what do you mean by get one more tower there?

[NYguy]

NYGuy, do you have any idea how much retail overall within those towers? And what do you mean by get one more tower there?



I’ll have to go back and look at the specifics for how much retail, but it’s pretty much that way for most of Manhattan, particularly with office towers on main avenues.

Here’s how it’s broken down on this site, with design controls calling for retail...


https://a4.pbase.com/g3/06/102706/2/88241577.cx7zt2zQ.jpg




Here’s an example of how the retail shapes up around the Spiral (shaded areas).


https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1/170335025.7VwT8mbI.865727F41DE84E58B5AE5CDB450B8303.jpeg

[Zerton]

^ Thanks. That's much better than I thought it would be.

[NYguy]

^ Thanks. That's much better than I thought it would be.


Here's just a little bit more on that, if the zoning-speak doesn't have your head spinning...


https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1/170335029.hC7fH2RA.A5CB5465F72F48E28E79CB6E43583CEE.jpeg

[Visionist]

A literal glass box is futuristic?

Fuck me right?

It's the sleekness of being a clean, uniform glass box without any visible columns or vents for mechanical floors that makes it look futuristic. 4 WTC achieves something similar.

Thanks for your offer but no thanks :D

[chris08876]

NY zoning and city DOB codes need to be changed. Also, the sky plane requirements need to go. Results in some ugly street/tower interfaces.

Its just a convoluted maze to navigate much of which relies on pre-1970s rubbish.

[NYguy]

Peek into the pit of 3 Hudson (left) and site prep on Related's residential tower (right)...


https://www.instagram.com/p/B7r1-jgFfxr/

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[aquablue]

NY zoning and city DOB codes need to be changed. Also, the sky plane requirements need to go. Results in some ugly street/tower interfaces.

Its just a convoluted maze to navigate much of which relies on pre-1970s rubbish.

They will still find away to build some boring ass box anyway, zoning changes or not. That's the design philosophy at the top. Zoning changes will do little if the dinosaur developers don't change their thinking on design - efficiency first, design last.

[chris08876]

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[kingsdl76]

NY zoning and city DOB codes need to be changed. Also, the sky plane requirements need to go. Results in some ugly street/tower interfaces.

Its just a convoluted maze to navigate much of which relies on pre-1970s rubbish.

I have to agree... Although I find the Hudson Yards development to be exciting for city, and you can't deny it's impressive scale, it's architecturally uninspired... They could've designed some really impressive buildings here, but they didn't....

[mrnyc]

Agree,Those big boxes are just austere and depressing lined up in a row like that. So disappointing!! Aloof and cold, this corporate alley is just not a great place.

you might think, but actually, in reality when you are there on the new hudson blvd, with all the construction going on, and all the shoppers and tourists and shed, vessel, highline park visitors, workers, commuters and javits conventioners, its anything but aloof and cold. its already full of bustling humanity just like anywhere else in the area. and that will be much more so with the western yards residential and plaza additions. :tup:

[NYguy]

http://www.moinian.com/3hudsonboulevard/

A partnership between Boston Properties and The Moinian Group, 3 Hudson Boulevard will be a free-standing, 1.9-million-square-foot glass-and-steel
office tower located north of 34th Street, at the epicenter of the Far West Side's continuing development.

Envisioned by FXCollaborative, 3HB is set to rise as an icon of design, flexibility, and sustainability in the 21st Century. Anchoring the elegant, tree-lined
Hudson Boulevard Park, the glass and steel, Class A office tower will offer tenants and their employees a superior experience, with unobstructed 360-degree
city views, and nearly an acre of parkland with direct 7 line subway access at the front door.





https://images.ctfassets.net/qerpbmegth17/yCZFxhrSlRHZdu5VdXLzl/5c6e6fe7d9222d007344cc0093bf3da8/3HB_Park



http://images.ctfassets.net/qerpbmegth17/6isqYu9CFimlJ7zZTwQ3Oj/d93431126120f40afaad8a045b794a0d/3HB_Vessel

[JMKeynes]

:cheers::cheers::cheers:

[chris08876]

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[NYguy]

https://therealdeal.com/2020/03/09/hudson-yards-districts-newest-office-tower-to-cost-2-6b/

Hudson Yards district’s newest office tower to cost $2.6B
Boston Properties and Moinian Group put development price tag on 3 Hudson Boulevard


https://s14.therealdeal.com/trd/up/2020/03/1200-Hudson-Yards-district%E2%80%99s-newest-office-tower-to-cost-2.6B-650x405.jpg


March 09, 2020
By Rich Bockmann


The next skyscraper to rise in the Hudson Yards neighborhood will cost nearly $2.6 billion to develop when all’s said and done.

Three Hudson Boulevard, which will stand 56 stories when completed, will have an all-in development cost of $2.58 billion, developers Boston Properties and the Moinian Group disclosed in a public filing.

The partners revealed the price tag in an application they filed with the New York City Industrial Development Agency to make payments in lieu of property taxes for the planned 1.8 million-square-foot tower at 400 11th Avenue.


The developers in January released a new design for the tower, the last of four major projects on West 34th Street in the Hudson Yards neighborhood to get off the ground.

Nearby, Tishman Speyer is several floors out of the ground on The Spiral, where tenants including Pfizer and Debevoise & Plimpton have signed big leases. The Related Companies has finished and opened 55 Hudson Yards, and is at work constructing 50 Hudson Yards, which is anchored by BlackRock.

Facebook also recently took about 1.2 million square feet at 50 Hudson Yards, and is reportedly in talks to lease more space at Vornado Realty Trust’s redevelopment of the Farley Post Office nearby.

[JMKeynes]

I wonder if they're building this on spec. I think that this design looks great.

[citybooster]

I'd have to see it up close but the fact that it now will be a supertall( if barely) and the redesign, while not perfect is a lot better makes for some good news. Only wish there were a tower tall enough to stand out, but if that's not what is possible or practical at the moment, at least this area is filling up nicely in the range around 1,000 ft.

[NYguy]

I'd have to see it up close but the fact that it now will be a supertall( if barely) and the redesign, while not perfect is a lot better makes for some good news. Only wish there were a tower tall enough to stand out, but if that's not what is possible or practical at the moment, at least this area is filling up nicely in the range around 1,000 ft.

Yeah, it's another giant. I think we've become somewhat numb to height in NY, but a near 1,000 footer with this much bulk would dominate most places. This one will be visible from (and haven open views of) the river for years to come. I hope it turns out nicely, even though it looks average. The setbacks help it stand out some, and I like the lighting.



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[Zerton]

It looks fine. Not a head turner.

[NYguy]

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[NYguy]

One of the older versions...


https://archinect.com/mmenendez/project/3-hudson-boulevard

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[TK2001]

God damn it I thought that design was coming back

[mrnyc]

this is an excellent, sleek and very well designed building. modern bland, but quality.

more than out of the box designs, i do wish somebody would break the self-limited or market-limited height barrier we are seeing in hy. i guess it would take a ‘1500 tower to be a boss though.

[citybooster]

This tower originally started off win a fantastic design that was shortened and value engineered into something depressing, then lengthened again and overall is winding up much better. Not ideal, still bland to a degree but considerably more stylish. I agree with those though who say that a signature tower is needed to complete the West Side, a real stand out at least in the 1,400-1,500 ft range. Are there any more possibilities to fit the bill?

[NYguy]

a signature tower is needed to complete the West Side, a real stand out at least in the 1,400-1,500 ft range. Are there any more possibilities to fit the bill?

Anything is possible, but that would require a developer specifically pushing for such. That's not what's going on here. The zoning was allocated to allow for the large office plates that are hard to come by with new construction in Midtown. The buildings are as tall as they are because that's the way they are built now. It's why we're basically getting a canyon of supertalls without any real runaway giants.

[citybooster]

Anything is possible, but that would require a developer specifically pushing for such. That's not what's going on here. The zoning was allocated to allow for the large office plates that are hard to come by with new construction in Midtown. The buildings are as tall as they are because that's the way they are built now. It's why we're basically getting a canyon of supertalls without any real runaway giants.
Hopefully one day in the not too distant future there somehow finds an opening for such a tower, but for now I would concede you're right. One thing though... what about the property once brought by Frank McCourt... I think it would be 360 Tenth Avenue.... once some supertall residential/ possibly hotel combo was speculated, any idea what might go there?

[NYguy]

what about the property once brought by Frank McCourt... I think it would be 360 Tenth Avenue.... once some supertall residential/ possibly hotel combo was speculated, any idea what might go there?

That one has varied, but I think it's too soon to say for sure just what will rise there now. For anything in the 1,400 ft plus range in the near term, I would look to midtown proper.

[citybooster]

That one has varied, but I think it's too soon to say for sure just what will rise there now. For anything in the 1,400 ft plus range in the near term, I would look to midtown proper.
Yep... especially in the Midtown East zone.

[NYguy]

Yep... especially in the Midtown East zone.

And possibly the Penn District...

[citybooster]

And possibly the Penn District...
yep... either the replacement for the current Hotel Pennsylvania or one of the new towers in the new plans for the Penn Station area could fit the bill very nicely. Perhaps more than one!

[Zerton]

Ah... NYGuy...

Seeing those renderings of that previous great design is so disappointing.

[mrnyc]

Ah... NYGuy...

Seeing those renderings of that previous great design is so disappointing.

i know what you mean, but im not disappointed at all. its because there seems to be a high quality cold war going on between these hy area developers. high end is its own style.

[NYguy]

Ah... NYGuy...

Seeing those renderings of that previous great design is so disappointing.

I think part of the problem with the renderings on this one is that they don't flush out the setbacks enough. It basically looks like a straight box, even though we know it isn't. Of course, it doesn't have the "twist" like some of the older versions. I want to see the actual diagram and better renderings.



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[JMKeynes]

I agree. This design has significant setbacks and will look beautiful. I'm curious if there are setbacks on the west façade too. One would expect that there are since not all tenants will occupy full floors.

While I like this design a lot, I don't see it rising any time soon. The shi.t is about to hit the fan in the world economy. The battered stock markets merely offer a hint on the forthcoming tsunami. We're in for a crazy, f.cking ride, lads.

[chris08876]

Isn't this one on-spec. Hopefully it'll continue once this economic hit is over.

[NYguy]

https://nypost.com/2020/03/29/coronavirus-pandemic-wont-upend-key-nyc-projects-developers-say/

Coronavirus pandemic won’t upend key NYC projects, developers say

By Steve Cuozzo
March 29, 2020


Big Apple developers will be sweating out the open-ended statewide construction halt ordered by Gov. Andrew Cuomo last week, but are optimistic the crisis will end soon enough to save their projects and investments.

The overdue shutdown to protect thousands of construction workers from contracting the coronavirus puts into limbo some 25 million square feet of office space and 5,000 apartments in the five boroughs that are in various phases of construction.


Some companies acted swiftly. Howard Hughes Corp. shut down work on the Seaport’s Tin Building and Pier 17 early last week before the state mandate.

Other stymied projects range from nearly finished ones such as Lightstone’s 130 William St. condo tower to others still at the foundation level, including Boston Properties’ and Joseph Moinian’s 3 Hudson Boulevard office tower.

Additional sites falling silent include Related Cos’ 50 Hudson Yards, Tishman Speyer’s Spiral, SL Green’s One Vanderbilt and the Durst Organization’s Queens Plaza Park — a 67-story rental apartment tower — in Long Island City.

Douglas Durst told The Post of the overall situation: “Once the construction stoppage is lifted, projects will get going pretty quickly. The financing is in place and this stoppage doesn’t screw it up.” Durst previously said leasing at Queens Plaza Park was to start in 2021.


Several developers’ reps emphasized that any visible, ongoing work is to secure sites to protect the public and the properties during the shutdown.

At One Vanderbilt, work can proceed on ground and below-ground work as part of SL Green’s $200 million investment in new subway station links — but not on the tower itself, which was scheduled to open later in 2020.

[NYguy]

https://www.instagram.com/p/B-ioL6qFdTQ/

https://scontent-ort2-2.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/e35/s1080x1080/91911416_836938990105751_1276290402635794831_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=111&_nc_ohc=glxnr8NHv3wAX8CBXYo&oh=06e99226cf1fba675df3630171e7a2f1&oe=5EB42574



https://scontent-ort2-2.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/e35/s1080x1080/91825040_153858502599480_6585812322222823622_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=100&_nc_ohc=sq1bAb4p9koAX-S6Egw&oh=902ffa64417087fa16637a6f2c572144&oe=5EB08309

[chris08876]

https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/business5/uploads/yimby/optimized/3X/f/8/f85478f2eb0825bb496bbea261c79a063b041a95_2_666x500.jpeg
Credit: SideStreet (https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-3-hudson-boulevard-987-ft-56-floors/199/443?u=chris08876)

[colemonkee]

Slow, but looks like there has been at least some movement since those aerial pictures in early April.

[NYguy]

MAY 26, 2020


https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1/170747284.PPajlFQU.pic05262025b.JPG



https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1/170747285.sCyiYuFo.pic05262026b.JPG



https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1/170747286.iOE7K584.pict05262046b.jpg

[chris08876]

Sry, meant this for the spiral.

[MercurySky]

I love this design because it is simplistic and to the point. Some of the buildings in Hudson Yards look offsetting and jumbled.

[Zapatan]

Hope we see steel rise soon, I feel like it's been forever.

[JMKeynes]

Is this tower actually rising at the moment? It appears to be. I wonder if Moinian has a tenant or if it's on spec?

[chris08876]

Near-Supertall Three Hudson Boulevard Reaches Street Level In Hudson Yards

https://newyorkyimby.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/IMG-2137-e1592940085981.jpg

Construction has reached street level on Three Hudson Boulevard, a planned $3 billion office skyscraper designed by FXCollaborative and developed by Boston Properties and The Moinian Group. The Hudson Yards development will rise around 940 feet and yield 1.86 million square feet, featuring column-free floor plates, private outdoor terraces for select suites, and wide views of the Manhattan skyline and Hudson River.

Recent photos show most of the ground-floor slab at street level. Large bundles of L-shaped steel rebar are neatly piled across the site, waiting to be placed into position. There are also a number of steel members poking above the sub-level portion of the project, which look like the columns that will form part of the core of the edifice. We have yet to see the assembly of the construction cranes to help raise the skyscraper.

The site is located on a full-block parcel, bound by Eleventh Avenue to the west, West 34th Street to the south, Bella Abzug Park and Hudson Boulevard to the east, and West 35th Street to the north. The multi-story podium will house one anchor tenant occupying 50,000-square-foot floor plates and ceiling heights in excess of 16 feet, while the main building itself houses the second tenant with 35,000-square-foot floor plates. Each tenant will have two separate entrances.


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NYY (https://newyorkyimby.com/2020/06/near-supertall-three-hudson-boulevard-reaches-street-level-in-hudson-yards.html)

[Prezrezc]

Again with the conflicting heights?

987'? 940'?

[Zapatan]

Again with the conflicting heights?

987'? 940'?

Could just be outdated information, I hope?

[mrnyc]

yesterday



https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/gzFG1b9Q0mg8r6ijoqoyw3FFVImLHP8Bq2UxcX8-sslb7GWkZ3_mIuZy9hqf6PyDtv9wPvpGRkjXhETQNG1Q6NvM4TwZPm7SoHXUMF8XooUe80lHLdbGIq037Ej5NhCWiuwHQxx-CQ=w2400

[JMKeynes]

Can anyone determine if this is rising or just being built to street level?

[NYguy]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CBLT-Iil4db/

https://scontent-ort2-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/e35/102561093_851389711937762_8303998215558050545_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=102&_nc_ohc=oU_7OARe3F8AX8oo-iJ&oh=4f0c57a29f0037ea827e070c577600bc&oe=5F3A831F

[NYguy]

DqouTA0o6Po

[chris08876]

https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/business5/uploads/yimby/original/3X/3/4/346b87fce79e2b85c32ecb9ceeb46f778d411340.jpeg
Credit: nyconstructionphoto
(https://www.instagram.com/nyconstructionphoto/)

[JMKeynes]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CBLT-Iil4db/

https://scontent-ort2-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/e35/102561093_851389711937762_8303998215558050545_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=102&_nc_ohc=oU_7OARe3F8AX8oo-iJ&oh=4f0c57a29f0037ea827e070c577600bc&oe=5F3A831F

Is that a setback on the north side or a construction elevator? If the former, then the setbacks on this tower are substantial.

[chris08876]

https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/business5/uploads/yimby/original/3X/6/6/66efd665a4506ba82cc919dd98940ed7ebf0e860.jpeg
Credit: the dronalist (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhqnv2WEoik)

[colemonkee]

Looks like she's ready to sprout above ground any day now.

Bit off topic, but is it just perspective from the photo, or do the terraces on The Spiral appear to get a little wider as they go up the tower?

[chris08876]

Looks like she's ready to sprout above ground any day now.

Bit off topic, but is it just perspective from the photo, or do the terraces on The Spiral appear to get a little wider as they go up the tower?

They vary in size.


Here's the E-Brochure: https://www.thespiralny.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/The-Spiral-E-Brochure-Nov-2018-1.pdf

https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/business5/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/1/9113eceaa4c66feb2fcd5edb2edd1e3834914744.png


:cheers:

[rgarri4]

From my 3d model of New York:

https://images2.imgbox.com/ea/ee/rCf2whIo_o.jpg

[JMKeynes]

:cheers:

[mrnyc]

good work!

this one is better than a box, but not nearly as good as 1 and 2 mw.

[NYguy]

From my 3d model of New York:

https://images2.imgbox.com/ea/ee/rCf2whIo_o.jpg


30 Hudson just gets swallowed up by these towers.

[NYguy]

AUGUST 30, 2020


https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1/171006787.d2upUI8O.pic08302039_InPixio.jpg



https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1/171006788.9CiRJduu.pic08302040_InPixio.jpg


SEPTEMBER 2, 2020


https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1/171006789.IJcl98O0.pic090220285_InPixio.jpg

[NYguy]

https://twitter.com/HOCHTIEF_AG/status/1301563536397733889/photo/1

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhAVHyfWsAguwJQ?format=jpg&name=large

[chris08876]

Three Hudson Boulevard Set For Vertical Ascent In Hudson Yards

https://newyorkyimby.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/image00007-2-1-e1598718130206.jpeg

Construction is set to rise at Three Hudson Boulevard, a planned $3 billion office skyscraper designed by FXCollaborative for both Boston Properties and The Moinian Group. The 56-story Hudson Yards development is expected to culminate with a roof parapet of around 940 feet and yield a total of 1.86 million square feet. The interiors will feature column-free floor plates, private outdoor terraces for select suites, and prime views of the Manhattan skyline, Hudson Yards, and the nearby Hudson River.

Recent photographs show the ground-floor slab mostly complete, while a plethora of steel rebar protrudes from the locations of the core and inner central walls.

The northern and southern elevations appear to rise uninterrupted, while the eastern and western façades have seemingly shallow setbacks that will likely be topped by the private office terraces previously mentioned. Some floors are slated to provide ceiling spans as high as 30 feet. A flat rooftop will cap the glass-enclosed skyscraper.

It will be interesting to see how reflective or transparent the envelope will be and how it compares to some of its nearby architectural counterparts such as The Spiral by Bjarke Ingels Group and 10 and 30 Hudson Yards by Kohn Pedersen Fox. The superstructure should likely begin to rise before the end of the year.

Three Hudson Boulevard is planned to be completed by 2023.
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NYY (https://newyorkyimby.com/2020/09/three-hudson-boulevard-set-for-vertical-ascent-in-hudson-yards.html)

[NYguy]

Would be nice here...could be 50 or the Spiral.


https://therealdeal.com/2020/09/10/barclays-eyes-big-move-to-hudson-yards/

Barclays eyes big move to Hudson Yards
Bank is looking to lease 500K sf for US headquarters

TRD New York
Sep. 10, 2020


Barclays is eyeing a big move to Hudson Yards.

The London-based bank is considering moving its U.S. headquarters to the Far West Side megadevelopment from its current location in Times Square, Bloomberg reported.

Barclays is looking to lease around 500,000 square feet. The bank is currently headquartered at the former Lehman Brothers building at 747 Seventh Avenue, which it acquired in a deal to buy part of the investment bank’s U.S. operations in 2008.

“I think this provides another data point that fears of the demise of Manhattan office buildings may be overblown,” said Bloomberg Intelligence analyst Jeffrey Langbaum.

[Hudson11]

BP did mention recently they talked to a company looking for a large amount of space. That was around when Blackstone announced they were shopping for 1M SF.

[JMKeynes]

:cheers:

Only in NY! This is bitter news for small-towners hoping for NY’s demise! :cheers::cheers:

[TREPYE]

The various changes to this development throughout the years.


https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/business5/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/b/9b27065ad8b93c269882106b4c72be6097468bc7.jpeg
Credit: Springboss123_456 (https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-3-hudson-boulevard-987-ft-56-floors/199/409?u=chris08876)

Unpredictably, the absolute WORST designed get built. Another diluent to the NYC skyline..... <scoffs!>

[Zapatan]

Unpredictably, the absolute WORST designed get built. Another diluent to the NYC skyline..... <scoffs!>

Disagree, I like the two right-middle ones less, though the original (second to left) is my favorite

I think this will surprise us

[NYguy]

The family waits...


https://www.instagram.com/p/CF3J-cdDPRr/

https://scontent-yyz1-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/e35/s1080x1080/120744211_709212009993961_9090822719302909702_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-yyz1-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=101&_nc_ohc=ZmjfjjyGyEUAX95z4k8&_nc_tp=15&oh=34a13d7bc9e479e8cbb270860e77c94c&oe=5FA37B84

[JMKeynes]

Some people were speculating that Moinian was building just to street level and would stop until he finds a tenant, but these photos suggest otherwise.

[eXodius]

Some people were speculating that Moinian was building just to street level and would stop until he finds a tenant, but these photos suggest otherwise.

As it's been 2 months with no new posts, has this project stalled? Hopefully not :(

[jbermingham123]

As it's been 2 months with no new posts, has this project stalled? Hopefully not :(

Depending on how you define "stalled", this project has been stalled for nearly a decade. At this stage, the right question is if or when. I highly doubt Moinian has abandoned this project, so the "if" is off the table. As for the when, its anyones guess.. but to answer your question, i do think it is, technically-speaking, stalled until they find a tenant