NEW YORK | 3 Hudson Blvd (The Girasole) | 987 FT | 56 FLOORS | ON HOLD [Archive] - Page 3

NYguy

Nov 21, 2008, 2:34 AM

That 7 line extension is critical to development in the area, so here's the update from the MTA...
http://www.mta.info/capconstr/7ext/construction.htm

The Girasole site:

34th Street Station Site

http://www.mta.info/capconstr/7ext/images/image021.jpg
Access shaft constructed at 35th Street and 11th Avenue for excavation of the 34th Street Station cavern.

http://www.mta.info/capconstr/7ext/images/south.jpg_http://www.mta.info/capconstr/7ext/images/north.jpg
Looking south and north

http://www.mta.info/capconstr/7ext/images/image025.jpg
Rock anchor installation, 34th Street Station cavern.

http://www.mta.info/capconstr/7ext/images/image026.jpg
34th Street Station ventilation and emergency exit shaft at 36th Street and 11th Avenue.

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Tunnel Boring Machine (TBM) Launch Site

http://www.mta.info/capconstr/7ext/images/image003.jpg
Excavation of TBM launching chamber using drill and blasting (looking west).

http://www.mta.info/capconstr/7ext/images/image005.jpg
Shaft constructed at 26th Street and 11th Avenue to provide access point for TBM operations.

http://www.mta.info/capconstr/7ext/images/image015.jpg
Construction of temporary power sub-station for future TBM operations.

http://www.mta.info/capconstr/7ext/images/image016.jpg
TBM starter tunnels - north and south tubes (looking north).

Antares41

Nov 21, 2008, 2:45 AM

^Those are amazing pictures. Didn't realize work had progress that far.

America 117

Nov 22, 2008, 3:37 AM

So this is how they make a subway..... AWESOME!!!

NYC2ATX

Nov 22, 2008, 8:42 AM

ssssssssssssiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiicccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NYC4Life

Nov 23, 2008, 2:25 AM

This tower depends so much on the 7 Line extension. Could be at least several years before the Girasole itself begins construction.

NYguy

Nov 23, 2008, 12:26 PM

This tower depends so much on the 7 Line extension. Could be at least several years before the Girasole itself begins construction.

Could be, but for other reasons. The station itself doesn't have to be completed before work begins on the tower - if its built in current form at all. My only problem with the 7 line extension is that they were supposed to build a station below Related's 42nd Street tower (now under construction) and everyone backed away from that. I think they even backed away from a compromised plan, in which they were just going to build the "shell", and complete the station later.

Jibba

Nov 23, 2008, 9:53 PM

Rendering looks nice--solid tower. If executed well this could end up being quite elegant.

NYguy

Nov 24, 2008, 1:04 AM

Rendering looks nice--solid tower. If executed well this could end up being quite elegant.

Could be nice, but I always forget this is a mixed-use tower. Still, hoping we get a chance for a nicer design. This tower is very similar to the WPC in that both towers will have direct connections to the new 34th St subway station (the extended 7 line). Some earlier planning before construction began...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/106260552/large.jpg

drew11

May 26, 2009, 5:15 AM

http://www.mta.info/capconstr/7ext/images/image016.jpg
TBM starter tunnels - north and south tubes (looking north).

Wow, that is alot more complicated than I thought it would be. It's amazing how much manpower and machines are required to make a subway.

Tranquility

May 29, 2009, 9:29 PM

those underground pictures remind me of the video game, Gears of War. Pretty cool stuff :tup:

THE BIG APPLE

Jun 6, 2009, 8:51 PM

Wow, that is alot more complicated than I thought it would be. It's amazing how much manpower and machines are required to make a subway.

And this is in the 21st century, imagine when the subway was first built in 1907.

NYguy

Aug 10, 2009, 11:33 PM

http://www.fxfowle.com/projects/mixed-use/3-hudson-boulevard.php

3 Hudson Boulevard
New York, NY

Client: The Moinian Group
Completion: 2013
Area: 1,600,000 sf

Situated in the Hudson Yards District, 3 Hudson Boulevard will be an icon of green architecture. From its sky gardens to the reaches of the new Hudson Boulevard Park, this 1.6 million square foot tower will be surrounded by green. It will offer unparalleled views over the Hudson River Park, the High Line, and the new Hudson Rail Yards development as it soars over 1,000 feet high. This solar power-generating tower will set new standards for mixed–use development by uniting premium corporate offices and the most exclusive residences with the state-of-the-art environmentally sustainable design. The project is targeted for a LEED Platinum Rating.

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Taken from the FXFowle website...

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Lecom

Aug 11, 2009, 2:25 PM

Exciting updates. The groundworks are especially amazing considering they're digging those caverns right under Midtown Manhattan's greater area.

Wheelingman04

Aug 17, 2009, 4:28 AM

Beautiful tower, but why couldn't they have built it downtown?

NYguy

Aug 17, 2009, 10:32 PM

Beautiful tower, but why couldn't they have built it downtown?

Downtown where? There aren't any sites available (other than the WTC) for a tower of this size.

scalziand

Aug 17, 2009, 11:37 PM

Beautiful tower, but why couldn't they have built it downtown?

Don't worry, Downtown (or rather Midtown) will follow.

SkyscrapersOfNewYork

Oct 12, 2009, 3:26 AM

i absolutely love Girasole and its surrounding projects...its nice to see NYC get some modern supertalls ^^

OneWorldTradeCenter

Dec 8, 2009, 4:51 PM

hi guys. does somebody know when construction will begin? I think, the tower is planned to be complete in 2011. The time remaining is most likely not enough to built a tower of this size.:koko:

hunser

Dec 8, 2009, 5:58 PM

look one page before, this building is considered to be finished in 2013.

NYguy

Feb 4, 2010, 3:27 AM

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/bloomberg_heads_underground_for_VNKRAwfpbhHYyOhDLL44oI

Bloomberg heads underground for 7 train extension

By TOM NAMAKO
February 3, 2010

Manhattan straphangers, meet your newest subway stop.

MTA brass yesterday revealed the incredible underground cavern that in several years will become the 34th Street top platform on the 7 line.

Cut 110 feet under Eleventh Avenue, the space — essentially a pit of mud and concrete right now — is housing several massive tunnel-boring machines that are working their way to 42nd Street, where the line currently ends.

Mayor Bloomberg said he hopes the $2.1 billion subway extension — funded by city taxpayer money — will lead to a spate of economic development on Manhattan’s West Side.

"The far west side never had mass transit before," he said inside the cavern. "The sandhogs deserve a lot of credit."

Bloomberg also addressed questions about the project coming in on-time and on-budget.

When asked about a recent independent engineer’s report that said the project could be delayed from its December 2013 opening into 2014, Bloomberg said, "I don’t know. If it takes into 2014, as long as we do it safe, that’s the most important thing."

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2010/02/03/news/photos_galleries/train_tunnel/020310bloomberg026tw173455--500x380.jpg

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2010/02/03/news/photos_galleries/train_tunnel/020310bloomberg033tw173511--500x380.jpg
The construction site 140 ft. below the 34th Street platform.

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2010/02/03/news/photos_galleries/train_tunnel/020310bloomberg044tw173446--500x380.jpg
The massive tunnel drilling machine at the construction site 140 ft. below the city, where work is underway
on the new No. 7 subway line stop at 34th Street and 11th Avenue.

NYguy

Feb 4, 2010, 2:48 PM

More from B.Letwin (http://www.flickr.com/photos/45205494@N02/page2/)

EDIT: Those photos aren't showing, but they can now be seen here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/45205494@N02/page6/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2696/4331087508_f132e247e5_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4005/4331071874_6f17426b4d_b.jpg

meh_cd

Feb 4, 2010, 5:42 PM

Haha that last shot: "Get the hell out of here so we can get back to work."

Busy Bee

Feb 4, 2010, 7:04 PM

That one's called 'The Coffeebreak.'

Lecom

Feb 11, 2010, 9:30 PM

Haha that last shot: "Get the hell out of here so we can get back to work."

Huh? If anything, it should be called "Wish we had the mayor visit every day. We get a nice break to stand around, not do anything and drink coffee while we still get paid in our overinflated union wages. This is pretty sweet"

SkyscrapersOfNewYork

Jun 1, 2010, 11:58 PM

from yesterday

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4060/4661779956_a3c1962ac0_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1283/4661781542_2798208afb_b.jpg

Zerton

Jun 2, 2010, 12:46 AM

So at what stage of the 7 line construction is foundation work for the tower possible.

OneWorldTradeCenter

Jun 2, 2010, 1:47 PM

Good image. Do they work on the foundation at the time?:sly:

NYguy

Jun 6, 2010, 10:42 PM

So at what stage of the 7 line construction is foundation work for the tower possible.

I'm not sure, but the tunnel has been dug, and is actually to the west of the foundation for the tower (as well as the former WPC site).

OneWorldTradeCenter

Jun 7, 2010, 3:58 PM

However, I hope construction will start soon...

NYC4Life

Jun 7, 2010, 5:30 PM

My guess is construction is a few years away, considering the extension on the 7 line would have to be completed first.

OneWorldTradeCenter

Jun 8, 2010, 1:45 PM

My guess is construction is a few years away, considering the extension on the 7 line would have to be completed first.

I don't hope so, but nobody knows... After my knowledge the proposed completion is 2013.

nlosborne3795

Jul 4, 2010, 9:30 PM

Is this going to be built?

SkyscrapersOfNewYork

Jul 4, 2010, 10:41 PM

Is this going to be built?

yes as soon as the 7 line reaches 12th ave.

brian.odonnell20

Jul 15, 2010, 11:57 PM

This, 15 penn plaza and empire state building all 1000+ feet in a line, anchoring the south side of midtown. Carnegie 57, and Tower Verre anchoring the north side of midtown... the skyline's going to get from amazing to ridiculous with a few more supertalls in the future. :yes:

SkyscrapersOfNewYork

Aug 1, 2010, 2:59 AM

drilling works and cleanup,maybe more i couldnt tell

http://images5a.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp63399%3Enu%3D65%3B%3A%3E74%3B%3E25%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D32%3A%3A3%3A96%3C534%3Bnu0mrj

http://images5b.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp63276%3Enu%3D65%3B%3A%3E74%3B%3E25%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D32%3A%3A3%3A96%3C634%3Bnu0mrj

http://images5b.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp63278%3Enu%3D65%3B%3A%3E74%3B%3E25%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D32%3A%3A3%3A96%3C834%3Bnu0mrj

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http://images5b.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp63277%3Enu%3D65%3B%3A%3E74%3B%3E25%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D32%3A%3A3%3A96%3C%3A34%3Bnu0mrj

http://images5b.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp63279%3Enu%3D65%3B%3A%3E74%3B%3E25%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D32%3A%3A3%3A96%3C%3B34%3Bnu0mrj

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http://images5a.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp6339%3A%3Enu%3D65%3B%3A%3E74%3B%3E25%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D32%3A%3A3%3A974734%3Bnu0mrj

http://images5b.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp6326%3A%3Enu%3D65%3B%3A%3E74%3B%3E25%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D32%3A%3A3%3A974934%3Bnu0mrj

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OneWorldTradeCenter

Aug 1, 2010, 2:18 PM

:previous: Great updates, I hope they're going to start construction soon!

NYguy

Aug 1, 2010, 9:02 PM

SkyscrapersOfNewYork

Aug 3, 2010, 6:28 PM

I really wouldn't expect construction on this one soon. The tunnels for the 7 line have been connected, so that's good news. However, this tower remains in the state of all other towers either canceled, on hold, or proposed - there needs to be financing.

so then whats going on if not construction?same for the rest of the Hudson yards and 11th avenue sites?there all undergoing some type of cleanup and construction. if you look at my pics of the site on 37th to 38th theres a circular that to me looks like the Chicago spires foundation. whatever is going on looks like foundation work.

patriotizzy

Aug 4, 2010, 6:49 AM

so then whats going on if not construction?same for the rest of the Hudson yards and 11th avenue sites?there all undergoing some type of cleanup and construction. if you look at my pics of the site on 37th to 38th theres a circular that to me looks like the Chicago spires foundation. whatever is going on looks like foundation work.

I hope you're right...

I hope you're right.

OneWorldTradeCenter

Aug 4, 2010, 1:32 PM

Somewhere I read that financing is there, but they have to wait until the subway project is finshed. If that's the case, foundation work might start soon or even has already started.

Dac150

Aug 5, 2010, 3:18 PM

Think of the area as going through a prep/planning stage. You're not going to see any physicial vertical construction of any sorts happening for a while.

SkyscrapersOfNewYork

Aug 5, 2010, 5:16 PM

Think of the area as going through a prep/planning stage. You're not going to see any physicial vertical construction of any sorts happening for a while.

then whys there drilling on the other sites and foundation work?

NYguy

Aug 7, 2010, 6:12 AM

OneWorldTradeCenter

Aug 7, 2010, 2:07 PM

Well, I thought construction will start after the two tunels were connected. The subway project has to be done, or at least basicly done. The financing of the tower is there, completion is planned for 2013. It's now the time start with the tower.

Let's wait, in a couple of weeks we're going to know what's going on.

NYguy

Aug 30, 2010, 10:12 AM

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703618504575459732876001478.html

On the Horizon, a New Manhattan Skyline

http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/NY-AL335A_NYSKY_G_20100829211830.jpg

Anton Troianovski
August 30, 2010

Before the recession hit, developers Moinian Group and Brookfield Properties Corp. also floated West Side towers, proposed to be more than 1,000 feet tall. "There's not much going on at the moment but it's definitely something we're excited about for the future," a Brookfield spokesman said of the company's project, at Ninth Avenue and 33rd Street.

Moinian wants to build a 1,060-foot office and residential tower nearby, but construction won't start before 2013, a spokesman said.

scalziand

Aug 30, 2010, 1:28 PM

Nice to finally have a height for this. Shame that it's just a hair taller than Verre. :(

OneWorldTradeCenter

Aug 30, 2010, 2:17 PM

Good news about the height, but it's bad that construction will start by 2013. I expected to see this U/C during the next months.

Dac150

Aug 30, 2010, 2:59 PM

I’m glad to read some rational thinking coming from these articles in terms of future commercial development. I don’t know if I’d go as far as leveling Park Avenue north of GCT, but what is in the works for the West Side and Hudson Yards will hopefully suffice, at least for now.

I’m anticipating that during the mid to later part of this decade is when we will see some substantial development.

OneWorldTradeCenter

Aug 30, 2010, 3:04 PM

I fixed the db-values, but we need a new drawing.

I hope construction will start by 2013 then and not later!

NYguy

Aug 30, 2010, 6:51 PM

Good news about the height, but it's bad that construction will start by 2013. I expected to see this U/C during the next months.

I didn't expect to see this one start construction soon, and I'm also hopeful that time will allow for a redesign (though I can live with it as it is). Nothing wrong with getting this one started later, we will have our hands full watching the construction in the next couple of years. Consider that in the previous three decades we didn't see any supertalls constructed in the city, and now we will have a line of supertalls coming, like the gift that keeps on giving.

SkyscrapersOfNewYork

Aug 31, 2010, 1:59 AM

is 1060 ft. official?

NYC4Life

Aug 31, 2010, 2:11 AM

Interesting neither 2 or 3 WTC were shown in that diagram.

QuarterMileSidewalk

Aug 31, 2010, 4:38 AM

^Probably because they seem to still be in a supertall-limbo, of sorts. At least, #2 is. #3 now has a fair shot at full construction.

NYguy

Aug 31, 2010, 2:02 PM

^Probably because they seem to still be in a supertall-limbo, of sorts. At least, #2 is. #3 now has a fair shot at full construction.

No, its more likely to include room for other developments other than the WTC. Of the buildings shown in the diagram, only 3 are actually under construction, one is on hold, and 4 await either tenants, finance, or are years away from actual construction. Towers 2 and 3 meanwhile will begin their climb to street level within months, reaching street level by the end of next year.

http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/NY-AL335A_NYSKY_G_20100829211830.jpg

nim3

Oct 31, 2010, 12:29 AM

I REALLY LIKE THIS 1,005 FOOT TOWER. I really like the desigh i want to see this project move foward!:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

NYguy

Oct 31, 2010, 6:20 AM

I REALLY LIKE THIS 1,005 FOOT TOWER.

It's 1,060 ft according to that last piece.

nlosborne3795

Oct 31, 2010, 9:59 PM

@NYguy is this, along with the other New York supertall proposals, approved? ... Please tell me if you know... Thanks~

NYguy

Nov 1, 2010, 11:41 AM

@NYguy is this, along with the other New York supertall proposals, approved? ... Please tell me if you know... Thanks~

It doesn't need approval. It is an "as of right" development, meaning it fits what the site is zoned for. All of the Hudson Yards developments are as of right.

OneWorldTradeCenter

Nov 1, 2010, 2:58 PM

It doesn't need approval. It is an "as of right" development, meaning it fits what the site is zoned for. All of the Hudson Yards developments are as of right.

You mean the same like the old World Trade Center? I heard that the fire protection rules of the city did not count for the Twin Towers, because the PA owns the land it once stood.

scalziand

Nov 1, 2010, 4:11 PM

You mean the same like the old World Trade Center? I heard that the fire protection rules of the city did not count for the Twin Towers, because the PA owns the land it once stood.

No, zoning still applies for the west side parcels that are not directly in the railyard. The zoning has been made very dense though, so large buildings are possible without going through hopes and red tape like Verre is going through.

NYguy

Nov 1, 2010, 8:07 PM

The zoning has been made very dense though, so large buildings are possible without going through hopes and red tape like Verre is going through.

Right. It's basically the city telling developers "now that midtown is full, this is where you can build your future towers". It's why the city pushed for the 7 line extension, and not the MTA - the MTA serves demand, while the city wants to create it.

sterlippo1

Nov 1, 2010, 11:04 PM

Right. It's basically the city telling developers "now that midtown is full, this is where you can build your future towers". It's why the city pushed for the 7 line extension, and not the MTA - the MTA serves demand, while the city wants to create it.

very interesting..........

Zapatan

Nov 3, 2010, 12:06 AM

Someone should bump this up 60 feet on the NYC diagram :)

NYguy

Dec 16, 2010, 3:07 AM

Great diagram of where this tower sits (the Moinian site) in relation to the other planned towers along the new Hudson Boulevard and Park.

http://www.hydc.org/html/project/hudson-park.shtml

http://www.hydc.org/includes/site_images/misc/hudson_park_2008_site_big.jpg

NYguy

Dec 17, 2010, 5:17 AM

The Hudson Yards wars begin to heat up...

http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2010/12/16/tenant-hunt-is-on-for-rival-west-side-projects/
Tenant Hunt Is On for Rival Office Projects.

http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-LJ676_west12_CV_20101216161832.jpg

By Eliot Brown
December 16, 2010

Commercial rents in New York are down more than 30% from their 2008 peak, vacancy is a relatively high 9% and construction financing is hard to come by. But that hasn’t stopped some large developers from dusting off their 2007-era plans to construct new office buildings.

The ever-active Related Cos. is now pushing its planned $15 billion development at Manhattan’s West Side rail yards on the office broker community, in an attempt to find one or two tenants who could occupy about one million square feet and anchor a first tower.

As it turns out, Related has some competition — and from a rival, no less.

Landlord Joseph Moinian, who is currently fighting back an attempt by Related CEO Stephen Ross to foreclose on and demolish his 3 Columbus Circle office building, said Wednesday that he, too, is planning a tenant search for a tower that will rise just north of the Related site.

“We are going to be marketing very soon,” he said. “Leasing reports on office buildings are showing signs of life.”

Development may not be the first word that jumps to mind when talking about Moinian, who is scrambling to shore up a multitude of overleveraged buildings bought or refinanced near the market’s peak. But with fundamentals gradually rising and a possible completion date now three to four years out — should Moinian secure a tenant — he said wants to start pushing his tower.

His site sits on a block between 34th and 35th Streets, bordered by 11th Avenue and Hudson Boulevard — the yet-to-be-built park that would rise to the north of the rail yards. The 1.6 million square foot office tower has been on the drawing board for more than five years, put into hibernation by the recession.

“We have a great land cost here. And we have certainly the best location because we are sitting, A) on top of the train, B) on the boulevard, and C) the most important thing is that we are sitting exactly across from Javits, where our views are unobstructed forever.”

Developers, of course, are by nature bubbling with optimism and only restrained from putting up empty office buildings left and right by lenders who — at least for the moment — want to see large tenant commitments at high rents before they hand over money to start construction.

There are a few other large office development sites vying for would-be tenants, including a Boston Properties site at 55th Street and Eighth Avenue (it nearly began construction before it was abruptly canceled when a tenant deal fell through in 2009), Vornado’s 15 Penn Plaza site, and a site on the far west side owned by Extell Development.

Two World Trade Center towers are going up in Lower Manhattan as well — and another will begin rising if Larry Silverstein finds a large tenant and can raise capital.

The North One

Dec 23, 2010, 9:11 PM

I love this design!

its simple yet elegant, and it twists very slightly.

just perfection!

NYguy

Dec 25, 2010, 1:32 PM

I love this design!

its simple yet elegant, and it twists very slightly.
just perfection!

Still a little awkward for me because of its size. But, it will be in an area of equally large towers. It's an interesting tower, and as Moinian pointed out,
it will always have riverfront views because of it's location. It reminds me in a way of the Sears/Willis Tower.

http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18602/1052318-S1300x600.jpg?optimalizedperformance=truehttp://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18602/1052319-S1300x600.jpg?optimalizedperformance=truehttp://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18602/1052320-S1300x600.jpg?optimalizedperformance=true

west view
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18602/1052318.jpg

south view
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18602/1052319.jpg

north view
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18602/1052320.jpg

http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18602/1052321.jpg

http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18602/1052322-S1300x600.jpg?optimalizedperformance=true

http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18602/1052323-S1300x600.jpg?optimalizedperformance=true

http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18602/1052323.jpg

http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18602/1052324.jpg

SkyscrapersOfNewYork

Dec 25, 2010, 3:14 PM

[QUOTE=NYguy;5104982]Still a little awkward for me because of its size. But, it will be in an area of equally large towers. It's an interesting tower, and as Moinian pointed out,
it will always have riverfront views because of it's location. It reminds me in a way of the Sears/Willis Tower.[

pfff, nah we'll build man made islands with supertalls on the Hudson just like Dubai. then all it'll have is skyscraper views. :haha:

NYguy

Dec 26, 2010, 4:45 PM

pfff, nah we'll build man made islands with supertalls on the Hudson just like Dubai. then all it'll have is skyscraper views. :haha:

Yeah, who knows. When Hudson Yards is built out, all options could be on the table. There was brief talk of another "Battery Park City" built on landfill, and the City has a history of it. Still though, it could be another Westway war.

NYguy

Jan 3, 2011, 9:51 PM

It will be very interesting to see the battle of these two towers and which one gets up first...

http://therealdeal.com/newyork/articles/this-year-s-buzz-worthy-projects
Will Related stay on track with Hudson Yards?

January 01, 2011
By C. J. Hughes

At the end of the year, Related began demolishing a 6,000-square-foot industrial structure to make way for a 1.4 million-square-foot office and apartment tower, the Wall Street Journal reported.

But Related's would-be office tenants might be caught in a tug-of-war. Developer Joseph Moinian has said his plans for a new 1.6 million-square-foot office tower nearby on 11th Avenue are finally moving forward.

patriotizzy

Jan 4, 2011, 1:54 AM

^^^^ Oooooh yes. I like this. Lots of competition in NYC!

NYguy

Jan 4, 2011, 3:27 PM

^^^^ Oooooh yes. I like this. Lots of competition in NYC!

That story is even more interesting because the developers are locked in a death battle over 3 Columbus Circle...

NYC4Life

Jan 4, 2011, 4:53 PM

The modern day version of the battle between the Empire State Building vs. Chrysler Building.

CoolCzech

Mar 15, 2011, 12:49 AM

http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/NY-AL335A_NYSKY_G_20100829211830.jpg

It's a bit disconcerting they don't include 2 and 3 WTC's in that chart. :(

Matt

Mar 15, 2011, 1:11 AM

^ Only in New York could you have 6 "supertalls" under development and/or proposed at the same time in the same US city. LOVE IT.

Edit: Just noticed 2 and 3 World Trade Center not included. That makes 8. Wow...

yankeesfan1000

Mar 15, 2011, 1:59 PM

I wouldn't put too much into that chart, it doesn't include a lot of skyscrapers that will be joining the skyline over the next 10 years. Off the top of my head; 250 East 57th Street; Extells other 57th Street lot; 1715 Bway; 440 Park Ave; the entire Hudson Yards, it's a much much much longer list than that tiny little chart suggests.

NYguy

Mar 16, 2011, 11:41 AM

It's a bit disconcerting they don't include 2 and 3 WTC's in that chart. :(

It shouldn't be. While those towers are in the early stages of construction, meaning steel actually going into the ground, towers like Manhattan West and the Tower Verre are way behind. And let's not forget that there's a hotel that has to get demolished on the 15 Penn site.

thelanetrain17

Apr 9, 2011, 4:36 AM

so whats the deal with this tower? I just looked at that clip of the new hudson yards projected rendering and did not see it in there.

SkyscrapersOfNewYork

Apr 9, 2011, 4:46 AM

so whats the deal with this tower? I just looked at that clip of the new hudson yards projected rendering and did not see it in there.

i doubt not seeing this tower in that video means much...and i doubt related feels obligated to advertise every site on the West side. Most of that was just showing that a lot of buildings will be built in that neighbored.

NYguy

Apr 9, 2011, 1:18 PM

so whats the deal with this tower? I just looked at that clip of the new hudson yards projected rendering and did not see it in there.

You won't find everything that's being built in a rendering or video of another project. And this tower is directly competing with Related's push to kick off the railyards development, even more of a reason to leave it out.

NYYskyline

Apr 24, 2011, 3:19 AM

The modern day version of the battle between the Empire State Building vs. Chrysler Building.

I think the Girasole will catch more eyes looking across the Hudon River, as much as I like the Empire State Building.

SkyscrapersOfNewYork

Apr 24, 2011, 4:06 AM

whos the architect?

Fabb

Apr 24, 2011, 10:55 AM

whos the architect?

Architect : FX Fowle
They usually do a good work, don't they ?

SkyscrapersOfNewYork

Apr 24, 2011, 11:22 AM

Architect : FX Fowle
They usually do a good work, don't they ?

yup'i have nothing bad to say about them. the designed other buildings like the NY Times Building,Conde Nast and 11 Times Square.

heres some more of their work

http://www.fxfowle.com/images/projects/1243968909.jpg
http://www.fxfowle.com/images/projects/1243968909.jpg

http://www.fxfowle.com/images/projects/1244743006.jpg
http://www.fxfowle.com/images/projects/1244743006.jpg

http://www.fxfowle.com/images/projects/1244741898.jpghttp://www.fxfowle.com/images/projects/1244741898.jpg

http://www.fxfowle.com/images/projects/1243891981.jpg
http://www.fxfowle.com/images/projects/1243891981.jpg

http://www.fxfowle.com/images/projects/1286486721.jpg
http://www.fxfowle.com/images/projects/1286486721.jpg

Fabb

Apr 24, 2011, 12:59 PM

Looks like they've been doing a lot of thinking over skyscrapers with a twist lately.

colemonkee

Apr 26, 2011, 5:48 AM

A lot of overthinking, if you ask me. None of those designs, save for the completed low-rise, are anything to write home about.

NYguy

Aug 13, 2011, 2:41 PM

Work continues towards completion for the station that will be incorporated into this tower...

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/08/photo-gallery-subterranean-construction-on-the-nyc-subway/243354/

Photo Gallery: Subterranean Construction on the NYC Subway

By Brian Resnick
Aug 10 2011,

Wall Street may be having a rough week, but there's clear progress happening underneath New York's financial institutions.

As part of its plan to redevelop the warehouse district around Hudson Yards, the city of New York has undertaken a $2.1 billion, two-mile expansion of the No. 7 subway line from Times Square to 11th Avenue. The No. 7 crosses just about every other NYC subway line; extending it to the yards will give most New Yorkers access to the soon-to-be-developed neighborhood west of Eighth Avenue and north of 34th Street. The project broke ground in 2007 and is now nearing the end of its heavy construction phase.

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/easel/images/galleries/120103_7_line-_4999.jpg
Progress is being made on the new 34th street station.

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/easel/images/galleries/120232_7_line-_5335.jpg
This is the mezzanine level of the future 34th Street Station.

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/easel/images/galleries/120127_7_line-_5010.jpg
A display of patriotism hangs in the incomplete subway station.

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/easel/images/galleries/120035_7_line-_4983.jpg
These tunnels, underneath the Port Authority Bus Terminal, are located near Times Square.

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/easel/images/galleries/115920_7_line-_4846.jpg
A completed tunnel with its concrete liner in place.

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/easel/images/galleries/115950_7_line-_4857.jpg

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/easel/images/galleries/120017_7_line-_4947.jpg

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/easel/images/galleries/120103_7_line-_4999.jpg

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/easel/images/galleries/120146_7_line-_5069.jpg

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/easel/images/galleries/120208_7_line-_5179.jpg

JayPro

Aug 13, 2011, 4:38 PM

Please forgive my ignorance; but does or would the subway project's conclusion give Girasole the go-ahead?

yankeesfan1000

Aug 13, 2011, 5:47 PM

Please forgive my ignorance; but does or would the subway project's conclusion give Girasole the go-ahead?

I believe the Girasole will rise directly on top of the 7s new stop on 34th and 11th. So it can't go ahead until the subway stop is more finished...I don't know when exactly it can start. But does this thing have financing, or is prep/construction too far off even for that?

kickser

Aug 13, 2011, 6:02 PM

^^ AFAIK it is just waiting for the subways finishing. But i guess Robert knows it better than me.

NYguy

Aug 14, 2011, 12:13 AM

But does this thing have financing, or is prep/construction too far off even for that?

The subway construction is independent of the tower, though the station will be incorporated.

http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2010/12/16/tenant-hunt-is-on-for-rival-west-side-projects/

Dec 2010

Landlord Joseph Moinian...said Wednesday that he, too, is planning a tenant search for a tower that will rise just north of the Related site.

“We are going to be marketing very soon,” he said. “Leasing reports on office buildings are showing signs of life.”

...with fundamentals gradually rising and a possible completion date now three to four years out — should Moinian secure a tenant — he said wants to start pushing his tower.

His site sits on a block between 34th and 35th Streets, bordered by 11th Avenue and Hudson Boulevard — the yet-to-be-built park that would rise to the north of the rail yards. The 1.6 million square foot office tower has been on the drawing board for more than five years, put into hibernation by the recession.

“We have a great land cost here. And we have certainly the best location because we are sitting, A) on top of the train, B) on the boulevard, and C) the most important thing is that we are sitting exactly across from Javits, where our views are unobstructed forever.”

http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18602/1052322-S1300x600.jpg?optimalizedperformance=true

I do believe that this is one of the best sites in the Hudson Yards, along with Extell's site just to the south and a few others, primarily because of the train station. With the station nearing completion (in a couple of years) the sites are increasingly becoming attractive.