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scalziand
Aug 16, 2011, 3:29 AM
the most important thing is that we are sitting exactly across from Javits, where our views are unobstructed forever.”

I wouldn't be too sure about that. We've discussed before that once the west side is built out, the temptation to redevelop Javits will be irresistible. Still, that is decades in the future.

Crawford
Aug 16, 2011, 1:45 PM
I wouldn't be too sure about that. We've discussed before that once the west side is built out, the temptation to redevelop Javits will be irresistible. Still, that is decades in the future.

Javits will be gone before the West Side is even filled out.

The city decided on just doing a temporary, stopgap renovation. The land is way too valuable for a lowrise exhibition shed.

NYguy
Aug 16, 2011, 9:01 PM
^ In that case, get ready for Hudson Yards version 3.0....

the most important thing is that we are sitting exactly across from Javits, where our views are unobstructed forever.”

I wouldn't be too sure about that.

It would almost be funny if as soon as this tower got built, a new, taller building was planned directly accross on the Javits site.

NYguy
Aug 19, 2011, 12:30 AM
http://www.moinian.com/corporate/residential-listing.php?s=3

Situated in the heart of the dynamic Hudson Yards District, directly across from the new Javits Convention Center 3 Hudson Boulevard, located at 34th Street and 11th Avenue will be a gateway for Manhattan's new West Side and an icon of green architecture for the 21st Century. This solar powergenerating tower will set a new standard for mixed use development by uniting premium corporate offices and the most exclusive residences with the state of the art in environmentally sustainable design.

3 Hudson Boulevard will rise as a gently-turning tower of glass adorned with an array of photovoltaic sun screens on its southern and eastern facades. The curtain wall will be comprised of spectrally selective glass with Low-emissivity coatings for enhanced comfort and environmental performance.

3 Hudson Boulevard will provide corporate tenants with more than 1.2 million square feet of high performance, Class A office space. At the podium level, floor plates will be over 35,000 square feet with clear lease spans in excess of 60 feet. Tower office floors will be approximately 27,000 square feet with clear spans of 40 feet or more.

Office floors will be greater than 14 ft. in height with a 5-foot window module taking full advantage of the spectacular views. The office lobby will offer a grand entry experience, gracefully expressed in stone, sustainable wood and illuminated glass.



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http://buildingdb.ctbuh.org/CTBUH_Building_Factsheet.php?id=8765

SkyscrapersOfNewYork
Aug 19, 2011, 12:50 AM
Wow that looks spectacular! :cheers:

JayPro
Aug 19, 2011, 1:16 AM
The base is sensational.

Taken all together, all these West Side & periphery developments will rival XSquare in activity and architectural vibrancy.
Are the opaque superimpositions of the other towers placeholder of sorts? Or has some (perhaps) more definitive work been done on what is planned for the immediate area? They look maybe a bit too detailed in every respect to just be models

NYguy
Aug 19, 2011, 6:16 AM
Are the opaque superimpositions of the other towers placeholder of sorts? They look maybe a bit too detailed in every respect to just be models

Just generic towers to show that this building won't stand alone in the new district.

Dac150
Aug 19, 2011, 4:23 PM
Once everything is squared away with transit, this will be a very desirable area, especially for LIRR and NJT commuters. The developer seems to have a lot of pride in the potential for this building and the possibilities of this up incoming district.

Mr. Lion
Aug 19, 2011, 8:34 PM
Just generic towers to show that this building won't stand alone in the new district.

It reminds me of the Rockefeller Center expansion area. Massive towers in an area where none really ever existed before....


http://rpmedia.ask.com/ts?u=/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/McGraw-Hill_Building_Rock_Center_by_David_Shankbone.jpg/248px-McGraw-Hill_Building_Rock_Center_by_David_Shankbone.jpg

NYguy
Aug 19, 2011, 8:52 PM
Once everything is squared away with transit, this will be a very desirable area, especially for LIRR and NJT commuters.

Metro-North will be coming into Penn Station as well, but I think a bigger key here is the 7 line (just a few stops from Grand Central). We can't stress enough how important it is having the subway extended here. It's like having a whole new piece of Manhattan created out of nothing. I expect this tower to take off as we near completion of the station, with potential tenants announced before then. Also, it looks like the design will stay the same.

JayPro
Aug 19, 2011, 9:07 PM
The XYZ buildings IMO, despite a lot of criticism I've read, are quite New Yorkish in that they carry a certain quiet swagger almost *because* of their blandness.
Nah...
It's definitely the size...::NY accent mode on::...youse stoopid mawwwwwwwrons...figeddabaaahdit. ;)

Now imagine that kind of attitude,
only about 500 feet taller on average,
covering a swath of Midtown from the Hudson riverfront to 57th,
and setting architectural precedents of all kinds for American cities for generations to come.

If this economy doesn't do a complete double-dip tankeroonie, that is.

patriotizzy
Aug 19, 2011, 11:02 PM
Those renderings are making this one of my more preferred buildings on the proposal table. The base is magnificent. Looks almost as if it was designed with Times Square in mind. Brilliant!

CoolCzech
Aug 20, 2011, 1:39 AM
It reminds me of the Rockefeller Center expansion area. Massive towers in an area where none really ever existed before....


http://rpmedia.ask.com/ts?u=/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/McGraw-Hill_Building_Rock_Center_by_David_Shankbone.jpg/248px-McGraw-Hill_Building_Rock_Center_by_David_Shankbone.jpg

Well, let's hope we do slightly better then than that Rue de Regret...

NYguy
Aug 21, 2011, 1:47 AM
Those renderings are making this one of my more preferred buildings on the proposal table. The base is magnificent. Looks almost as if it was designed with Times Square in mind. Brilliant!

It does. Seems there's more to this building than met the eye originally.

The office lobby will offer a grand entry experience, gracefully expressed in stone, sustainable wood and illuminated glass.

Mr. Lion
Aug 21, 2011, 3:31 AM
It does. Seems there's more to this building than met the eye originally.

Ive never liked the idea of a development where all the buildings are mirrory and glassy. That's why i liked this design the most. It tries to blend in as much as possible:


http://images.townnews.com/chelseanow.com/content/articles/2009/07/02/news/doc4a3a6af7eb4b8819042997.jpg

RobertWalpole
Aug 21, 2011, 10:04 AM
Well, let's hope we do slightly better then than that Rue de Regret...

6th Avenue is beautiful in my opinion. I find all of those buildings to be quite attractive.

Mr. Lion
Aug 21, 2011, 6:19 PM
6th Avenue is beautiful in my opinion. I find all of those buildings to be quite attractive.

Its a subtle beauty. Like the facade of the Twin Towers.

NYguy
Aug 26, 2011, 6:40 PM
http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2011/08/26/fxfowle_hudson_yards_tower_put_on_burner_for_7_train_extension.php

FXFOWLE Hudson Yards Tower Put on Burner for 7 Train Extension

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Friday, August 26, 2011, by Kelsey Keith

We like to check in with our skyscraper thread friends every so often and this week, rendered rumors have been flying in regards to The GiraSole, ...A spokesperson for developer Moinian Group clears a few things up for us about that timing:

"This development site is currently being net-leased by the Hudson Yards Development Corporation as a construction staging area for the MTA’s extension of the #7 subway line, which is now expected to be completed sometime in late 2013 or early 2014. The developer entered into a seven-year lease with them for this use back in 2007. They have been working very closely with the MTA and when the extension is completed the site will be well-positioned to begin development of 3 Hudson Blvd., which will have direct access to the subway. Current projections are for construction to begin soon after the subway extension is complete, most likely in 2014, with completion expected in 2016."

Zapatan
Sep 3, 2011, 2:07 PM
looks like we have to wait five years... it should be worth it :)

NYguy
Sep 16, 2011, 5:51 PM
The final run towards an opening...

http://www.yournabe.com/articles/2011/09/15/queens/doc4e723163e24d9671526626.txt
MTA to start last phase of No. 7 Manhattan extension

By Philip Newman
Thursday, September 15, 2011

MTA officials announced Wednesday that construction will start this month on the final major project to extend the No. 7 subway to Manhattan’s far west side.

The $517 million final major contract was signed last month and awarded jointly to Skanska USA and RailWorks Corp.

In the final major phase of the construction, workers will lay tracks and install third rails and signals in newly finished tunnels.

The project includes installing elevators and escalators as well as power, lighting, plumbing, heating and air conditioning in the new station at 34th Street and 11th Avenue.

NYguy
Jan 8, 2012, 11:12 PM
http://archpaper.com/news/articles.asp?id=5833

Lucky Seven: New York's 7 line extension steams ahead.

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Detail of the lower mezzanine's arc.


Jan 7, 2012

In the waning days of 2011, Shawn Kildare gave a tour 130 feet below Eleventh Avenue. Kildare, a senior vice president at the MTA, delivered some good news to the small group gawking at the huge caverns carved for the Number 7 Subway Extension. The project, he said, is ten months ahead of schedule and under budget. With the Second Avenue subway progressing in fits and starts, hobbled by community complaints, the new Number 7, which boasts few residential neighbors, looks poised to take the prize as New York’s newest subway exension.

The new station, engineered by Parsons Brinkerhoff, will take one of the system’s busiest train lines from its westernmost terminus at Times Square, to Eleventh Avenue and 34th Street—and perhaps, one day, to New Jersey. The extension may prove a viable alternative to the regional tunnel that New Jersey governor Chris Christie squashed in 2010. As currently planned, the new station will serve the mass-transit-challenged Javits Center and Related Hudson Yards project, to say nothing of Brookfield Properties’ Manhattan West proposal. It will accommodate 25,000 commuters per hour, and an additional six trains added to the line will find room to park and/or maneuver on extra tracks positioned just north and south of the new subway platform.

Along Eleventh Avenue the tunnel dodged Amtrak and Lincoln Tunnel tubes before curving east to meet the existing Number 7 tracks. This meant digging beside the Port Authority Bus Terminal while passengers disembarked 20 feet away. A few blocks west, the sandhogs borrowed beneath the Times Square/Eighth Avenue pedestrian passageway while commuters crisscrossed overhead.




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Workers prepare a new communication center beneath Eleventh Ave. as ventilation rises at right.


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Subgrade work continues for parkland entrance to subway.


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Two tunnels run east to meet the park entranc


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Cross section from left to right (west to east) shows tracks and lower mezz, escalators, upper mezz, and park entrance.


More images...

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fimiak
Jan 9, 2012, 10:39 PM
While good news is good news, I find it suspicious that they are 10 months ahead of schedule. To me that means that a lot of extra time was padded into the schedule to begin with. Where does one gain ten whole months from?

RobertWalpole
Jan 10, 2012, 3:09 AM
I drove by here quickly on Saturday, 7 Jan 2012 2012 and wondered what that structure was.

http://archpaper.com/uploads/7_subway_05.jpg
http://archpaper.com

tdawg
Jan 10, 2012, 12:27 PM
It's fascinating to me that the driving reason for the 7 extension west was the Javits. Now the governor wants to demolish the Javits.

JSsocal
Jan 10, 2012, 5:58 PM
^^No the driving reason was to spur development of the west side.

cityenthusiast
Jan 10, 2012, 6:32 PM
[QUOTE=RobertWalpole;5543629]I drove by here quickly on Saturday, 7 June 2012 and wondered what that structure was.

So you have a time machine, how is the project looking have they started another supertall over there?;)...:jester:

NYguy
Jan 10, 2012, 8:09 PM
It's fascinating to me that the driving reason for the 7 extension west was the Javits. Now the governor wants to demolish the Javits.

The driving reason wasn't for the Javits - the Javits was built back in the 80's. The driving reason was to spur development of the entire Hudson Yards redevelopment area.


It's interesting to me how deep this station will be below the street level, especially considering it's one of the IRT lines. But it had to be built that way to avoid other things. Shown in the image below is the Extell tower site (former WPC) and the Girasole site (3 Hudson) is just behind. Both will sit above the station.

http://archpaper.com/uploads/7_subway_rendering_01.jpg


The main subway entrance for this one will be on the northern side.

http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18602/1052322-S1300x600.jpg?optimalizedperformance=true

NYguy
Feb 2, 2012, 6:38 PM
Since we are waiting for this thing to finish, another update...


MTAPhotos (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/6801448327/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

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aquablue
Feb 2, 2012, 7:51 PM
If NY were Europe, would it really take that long to build such a short segment of subway? I doubt it. It seems London always builds their subways super fast in comparison.

Roadcruiser1
Feb 2, 2012, 8:00 PM
If NY were Europe, would it really take that long to build such a short segment of subway? I doubt it. It seems London always builds their subways super fast in comparison.

New York has a lot of water pipes and gas pipes underneath the soil. Any construction you do would bring them to the surface.

scalziand
Feb 2, 2012, 8:38 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7171/6801446899_e0038956bf_b.jpg

Wow, those columns aren't messing around. :eek:

No box or I-beams here, just solid plates laminated together.

THE BIG APPLE
Feb 2, 2012, 9:43 PM
I really love the Girasole because of its facade. If anything changes about that facade this tower will SUCK. The facade it literally WHITE, and I love it. It's different than anything we've seen (except 1 Columbus Circle RIP). If built like the renders show it will be one of the "main attractions" of the Hudson Yards, and will be totally easy to differentiate from the rest.

reencharles
Feb 3, 2012, 3:09 AM
New York has a lot of water pipes and gas pipes underneath the soil. Any construction you do would bring them to the surface.

I should also mention that this subway line is deeper than other underground constructions (subways), which makes the work more dangerous. Not to mention the hard rock of the island of Manhattan.

NYguy
Feb 3, 2012, 6:16 AM
They had to go deeper to avoid a lot of things, if you look at the diagram, you can see just how deep under the towers the station will be. They just better keep those escalators working, or there will be a lot of pissed off people.

Meanwhile, the closer we get to this station being complete, the closer we get to this tower starting. However, given the current state of things, this tower would probaby be on hold anyway.

www.curbed.com

This development site is currently being net-leased by the Hudson Yards Development Corporation as a construction staging area for the MTA’s extension of the #7 subway line, which is now expected to be completed sometime in late 2013 or early 2014. The developer entered into a seven-year lease with them for this use back in 2007. They have been working very closely with the MTA and when the extension is completed the site will be well-positioned to begin development of 3 Hudson Blvd., which will have direct access to the subway. Current projections are for construction to begin soon after the subway extension is complete, most likely in 2014, with completion expected in 2016."

NYguy
Apr 5, 2012, 5:48 AM
Small delay here...tragic accident.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/05/nyregion/mta-halts-work-on-manhattan-subway-extension-after-a-crane-collapse.html

Work Is Halted at Subway Site After Fatal Crane Collapse


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By JOHN LELAND
April 4, 2012



A day after a fatal crane collapse, the Metropolitan Transportation Authority shut down all work at the construction site for the No. 7 subway extension to Manhattan’s Far West Side, leaving a 60-foot-deep pit that looked like an underground ghost city for various investigators to mine for evidence of the accident’s cause.

On Wednesday, officials at the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, prompted by the accident, ordered the inspection of cranes operated by Yonkers and other contractors at the World Trade Center site, a person with knowledge of the actions said.

As investigators on Wednesday roamed the normally bustling construction site for the No. 7 extension, the cranes and other machines there were silent. Work by three other contractors operating jointly beside Yonkers on the site — Skanska, Schiavone Construction Company and J. F. Shea Construction — was also halted.



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BStyles
Apr 7, 2012, 9:36 AM
The crane boom looks like it either melted, or was made out of some material with mediocre lifting capacity.

NYguy
Apr 11, 2012, 1:03 AM
They are back at work already...

http://manhattan.ny1.com/content/top_stories/159104/subway-extension-work-resumes-at-site-of-deadly-crane-collapse

Subway Extension Work Resumes At Site Of Deadly Crane Collapse


4/9/12

Work resumed at the site of last week's deadly Midtown crane accident on Monday.

Crews were back on the job to extend the number 7 subway line on Manhattan's West Side.

Construction worker Michael Simmermeyer was killed when a cable snapped, causing part of the crane to come crashing down last Tuesday.

The cause is still being investigated, but officials are looking into maintenance and operation issues with the crane.

Defects were in the hoisting system.





http://www.dnainfo.com/20120410/chelsea-hells-kitchen/construction-resumes-after-deadly-crane-collapse-at-mta-site

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Zapatan
May 19, 2012, 12:43 AM
http://therealdeal.com/blog/2012/05/18/dob-issues-permit-for-citys-tallest-residential-tower/

The 84-story tower at 440 Park Avenue will be NYC’s loftiest

The New York City Department of Buildings has issued a permit for the construction of a new, 84-story residential building, slated to be the city’s tallest, at the 440 Park Avenue site where CIM Group and Macklowe Properties plan to build condominiums, the DOB confirmed today. The permit, for a 1,300-foot-tall residential tower at the site of the former Drake Hotel, was issued earlier this month.

The application for the site, at 56th Street, was filed last May, the DOB said. If construction proceeds as planned, the tower, which will offer retail as well as the ultra-luxury apartments and will be designed by SLCE Architects, will reach 1,398 feet in 2016. That heights tops One57, which will become the city’s tallest residential tower when it is completed later this year.

CIM and Harry Macklowe — who has no equity in the project but is involved — plan to erect a mixed-use complex designed by Rafael Vinoly. With 128 residential units and 12-foot high ceilings, the project is expected to cost $1 billion, according to previous reports. The permit means that the ambitious project — which is slated to include golf training facilities and private dining and screening rooms — can move forward.

But the 440 Park Avenue site may not be the city’s tallest for long. The GiraSole tower proposed for 11th Avenue could rise to a similar height when it is completed. The project has been stalled for years, after initial reports said the tower, which architects hope to design as essentially a huge solar panel, would be completed by 2011.

CIM, a Los Angeles-based private equity firm which acquired the Drake Hotel site for $305 million in 2010, has said it is confident that it will get the $700 million construction loan it needs to complete the project, according to previous reports. Calls to CIM’s representatives were not returned.


http://therealdeal.com/blog/2012/05/18/developers-vie-for-tallest-designation-next-to-residential-towers/

New York City has entered the age of a residential arms race, where developers continue to try top each other, literally, in the height of their developments, according to the New York Times. By 2016 the city could have six of the country’s 10 tallest towers and three of its highest residential buildings.

Last year, 8 Spruce Street became the country’s tallest rental tower. (The Times noted that architect Frank Gehry urged developer Forest City Ratner to build a few feet short of Trump World Tower so as not to draw The Donald’s ire.)

Meanwhile, Extell Development’s One57 just broke a Manhattan sales record on its way to 1,004 feet in height, which will make it the tallest residential tower in Manhattan. But it won’t hold that title for long. The residential structure CIM Group and Harry Macklowe plan for 432 Park Avenue is slated to reach 1,398 feet in 2016, and even later, the GiraSole tower proposed for 11th Avenue could rise to a similar height.

In the short-term, a Related Companies rental tower scheduled to open June 15 is staking claim to the “tallest residential building on the Upper East Side” title, as it rises 53 stories on 1214 Fifth Avenue, which is actually in Harlem. At 513 feet, it will be the 183rd tallest building in the city.

Zapatan
May 19, 2012, 12:44 AM
So uh yea this is awesome :D

Duck From NY
May 19, 2012, 2:38 AM
I should also mention that this subway line is deeper than other underground constructions (subways), which makes the work more dangerous. Not to mention the hard rock of the island of Manhattan.

London's central subway stations seemed further down than New York's when I was there.

scalziand
May 19, 2012, 2:46 AM
I wonder if the building will have largely the same design, just more tapered and with bigger corner notches to get the extra height, or if it'll be a completely new design.

SkyscrapersOfNewYork
May 19, 2012, 3:43 AM
This...is great news,perhaps the loss at the WTC can be made up by other skyscrapers.

patriotizzy
May 19, 2012, 4:19 AM
Oh dang, I don't know what to think of this! :/

I like the fact that it's going to be so much taller. But then again, it means there'll be design changes. I love the design of the building as it is, and I'm hoping it's just an alteration to the height, and not a full redesign. Whatever it may end up being though, I'm pretty sure it'll live up to the amazing design of this current proposal.

Zapatan
May 19, 2012, 1:49 PM
This...is great news,perhaps the loss at the WTC can be made up by other skyscrapers.


I think that's a possibility, but the WTC site was sacred in a way, so I think it's truly unforgivable what they have done to it, not just with the spire, but shortening tower 3, not making it higher than the old WTC, taking far too long to get it done etc...

We're going to need a lot of skyscrapers to get over that, and luckily it looks like we will get them.

Innsertnamehere
May 19, 2012, 2:57 PM
London's central subway stations seemed further down than New York's when I was there.

many of new yorks subway lines are shallower than this line, but this one is very deep due to it being dug beneath an already existing city. this subway extension is very deep, not the general new york subway system.

hunser
May 19, 2012, 5:36 PM
I think that's a possibility, but the WTC site was sacred in a way, so I think it's truly unforgivable what they have done to it, not just with the spire, but shortening tower 3, not making it higher than the old WTC, taking far too long to get it done etc...

We're going to need a lot of skyscrapers to get over that, and luckily it looks like we will get them.

Yeah, and it's important that NY keeps on building taller skyscrapers than 1WTC, with 432 PA being the pioneer. New towers which will surpass the ESB and/or the WTC are vital for NY's "skyscraper dynamic".

Roadcruiser1
May 19, 2012, 6:57 PM
The World Trade Center is not really sacred in any means. If the Twin Towers weren't attacked on 9/11, or if never happened the Twin Towers would have been defeated by other buildings which would have had surpassed it in height. If I remembered correctly they proposed a building taller than the Twin Towers at the NY Stock Exchange. If 9/11 didn't happen it would have been built, and it would have been taller than the Twin Towers.

The North One
May 20, 2012, 4:05 PM
I love how the building slightly twists, Its simple, elegant and modern. This must be built!

(Seems I've already said this in this thread, oh my short memory)

patriotizzy
May 20, 2012, 5:12 PM
I love how the building slightly twists, Its simple, elegant and modern. This must be built!

(Seems I've already said this in this thread, oh my short memory)

Deserves to be said again! My thoughts exactly!

babybackribs2314
May 20, 2012, 5:18 PM
http://newyorkyimby.blogspot.com/2012/05/rumor-mill-could-girasole-rival-432.html

Increasing the height of the Girasole would make sense from a development perspective, especially as so many residential/mixed-use towers are now breaking the 1,000 foot barrier. As so many towers are increasingly slender--obviously 432 Park leads the pack--it would make much more sense if the Girasole took on a model-esque profile to maximize future views. The tower has 1.6 million square feet of air rights, 600,000 SF more than One57 and triple the amount that 432 Park has. The Girasole certainly doesn't lack the space needed to rise higher--perhaps even 1,500 feet is possible, given the latest trends to emphasize height over all else.

IMO, this stands a good chance of being taller. Market is much different from when this was originally proposed...

Zapatan
May 20, 2012, 5:25 PM
1500 feet possible?

It looks like we're getting our deserved payback for the WTC being so botched. :)

Hudson11
May 20, 2012, 7:41 PM
if they want to compete with the height of 225 w 57th and 432 Park then this might be in the 1250-1500 range. It's already taller than the planned residential and mixed use towers on the West Side though.

Hamilton
May 20, 2012, 8:09 PM
http://newyorkyimby.blogspot.com/2012/05/rumor-mill-could-girasole-rival-432.html



IMO, this stands a good chance of being taller. Market is much different from when this was originally proposed...

Babyback ribs, is that your blog? It's cool, but when you quote it like that it makes it seem much more authoritative, when it's just your (presumably non-insider) opinion, rather than an authoritative source.

At this point we have no idea about whether the height of this tower has been increased or whether it has been redesigned or not, just a couple of fleeting mentions of the tower in a couple of newspaper articles.

Dac150
May 21, 2012, 1:09 AM
Certainly exciting news - there's so much potential for that area.

NYguy
May 21, 2012, 11:31 AM
Oh dang, I don't know what to think of this! :/

I like the fact that it's going to be so much taller. But then again, it means there'll be design changes.


That's not clear at all yet.

NYguy
Jun 4, 2012, 7:57 PM
MTAPhotos (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/7256249746/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

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jackster99
Jun 4, 2012, 9:07 PM
:previous:

Sorry NYguy, but what is that a picture of?

NYguy
Jun 4, 2012, 9:41 PM
^ It's the communication center for the subway that will be beneath the building.


http://archpaper.com/news/articles.asp?id=5833

http://archpaper.com/uploads/7_subway_05.jpg
Workers prepare a new communication center beneath Eleventh Ave. as ventilation rises at right.

NYguy
Jun 5, 2012, 1:11 PM
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/realestate/commercial/no_train_mos_late_BEjKsCL51LL06ZSZ58ZOiI
No. 7 train 6 mos. late

June 6, 2012
Steve Cuozzo


The No. 7 subway line extension to 11th Avenue and West 34th Street won’t carry passengers until mid-2014 — six months later than was widely expected — and the new station won’t be entirely finished until the end of 2015, the MTA said yesterday.

The six-month delay is hopefully not a sign of greater trouble at a project that’s of paramount importance to Gary Barnett’s Extell Development Co. and Stephen M. Ross’ Related Cos. The station’s at the doorstep of One Hudson Yards, the 56-story office tower Extell plans to build on 11th Avenue and 33rd and 34th streets. It’s also a selling point for Related’s 26-acre Hudson Yards, where Ross hopes to start building a headquarters tower for Coach Inc. this year.

Asked to explain earlier statements that the station would open in December 2013, agency rep Aaron Donovan said, “We do expect to have trains running for test purposes by December 2013.” Meanwhile, Donovan said one part of the new No. 7 station won’t be fully completed until December 2015 — its north entrance at West 35th Street. The main entrance will be on 11th Avenue between 33rd and 34th streets.


Both this tower and 1 Hudson Yards will sit above the station entrance, only for this tower the entrance will be on the northern side:


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/143812552/large.jpg

NYguy
Jun 29, 2012, 12:50 AM
Update from MTAPhotos (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/7455948378/sizes/o/in/photostream/)


(Site P)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8146/7455948378_a7c8a9b65c_b.jpg



http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8146/7455948378_c67ef70908_o.jpg



http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8002/7455949490_9e974fc8d9_o.jpg

-Filipe-
Jul 9, 2012, 10:01 PM
wow love this building, i wish they would build something nice like this that would be taller then the esb... if you say, well there building 432 park avenue thats taller..i dont like buildings like that..i like buildings that stand out :)

uaarkson
Jul 10, 2012, 4:14 PM
432 Park will stand out more than any other tower in midtown. It's too tall and strikingly thin not to.

As for this tower, I think it will synergize with the Hudson Yards particularly well.

Guiltyspark
Sep 11, 2012, 6:08 PM
432 Park will stand out more than any other tower in midtown. It's too tall and strikingly thin not to.

As for this tower, I think it will synergize with the Hudson Yards particularly well.

He meant stand out in a good way, because of striking, beautiful or unique architectural design. Not simply because the are a massively tall box that a 3rd grader would design.

ThatOneGuy
Sep 11, 2012, 8:57 PM
^^ I really like it, but then again, I'm a minimalist. Almost any box is elegant and stunning to me.
Hope this Girasole building can do the same.

NYguy
Jan 18, 2013, 7:14 AM
http://www.globest.com/news/12_521/newyork/office/Avison-Young-Leasing-Agent-for-3-Hudson-Blvd-328946.html

Avison Young Leasing Agent for 3 Hudson Blvd

January 17, 2013


Avison Young’s hottest new assignment is to lease up the 1.7 million square-foot trophy building at the smoking Hudson Yards area here. Potential tenants would be best to keep 3 Hudson Blvd. in mind, as the Moinian Group has appointed the firm as the exclusive leasing agent of the property.

AY principal and tri-state president Arthur Mirante was unable to comment on the assignment at press time. Be sure to check back later this week on GlobeSt.com for further details.

For those outside of New York City or unfamiliar with the area, 3 Hudson Blvd. will become a class A office property, located right across from the Javits Convention Center.

NYguy
Jan 23, 2013, 1:03 PM
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/realestate/commercial/lucky_at_hudson_blvd_1vlWlcVUhWwWkXtdAPt3HI

Lucky ‘7’ at 3 Hudson Blvd.


http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2013/01/23/business/web_photos/23.1F032.lois1--300x450.jpg


By LOIS WEISS
January 23, 2013


The skyline in the Hudson Yards area is taking shape — at least on paper.

Here’s the first look at a new rendering for developer Joseph Moinian’s 1.7 million-square-foot tower at 3 Hudson Boulevard, bounded by the new park, the Javits Center and West 34th and 35th streets.

Designed by Dan Kaplan of FXFOWLE, the roughly 1,000 foot-high tower will turn slightly to catch the sunshine as well as views of the Hudson River and public spaces within Hudson Yards. As the Manhattan street grid is slightly off the true north-south axis, Kaplan said the tower will align to the street grid at the base, and then do the twist. “It has a subtle, elegant spin and only rotates the 22 degrees as you go up,” said Kaplan. “It’s enough to give it a distinctive form, but not so much that it contorts the building.”

While the eastern and western ends of the building will change as it rises, the long sides of the structure will stay consistent. “So that is how we were able to marry floor efficiencies with the mechanics,” Kaplan said.

The twist is also “great for tuning the building to solar,” as a unique highlight of the project will be solar-paneled awnings, or “eyebrows,” that will shield the south-side occupants from the sun while generating electricity with photovoltaic cells.

“They are architectural projections, and the revisions to the zoning code anticipate these kinds of devices,” Kaplan explained. “You will start to see more of these.”

The building will also have several roof terraces and a rooftop deck shielded from the winds.

“He’s been a magician in making this design efficient and beautiful and LEED Platinum,” said Arthur Mirante, tri-state president of Avison Young, which is leading the tenant marketing for the Moinian Group.

Because the building features an entrance to the new No. 7 line inside and has the new Hudson Boulevard Park at its eastern foot, Mirante said he is pitching the best site in the “center” of the new West Side. Construction on bedrock can start in 2014, and the building will be ready in 2016 or 2017.

“It’s a great building,” said Moinian at last week’s Real Estate Board of New York banquet.

The base could be designed as either trading or retail, Mirante said, with residential added at the top of the tower should an anchor office tenant not object. Asking rents for the base will start in the $80s per foot and rise from there. “The whole building could be office or mixed use,” said Mirante. “We really have a clean slate, which is really exciting and will allow us to go after the monster tenants.”

We still think the new park, which will run from West 30th to West 42nd streets as well as the boulevard, should be renamed in honor of the mayor who has made the entire area possible.

http://www.fxfowle.com/projects/mixed-use/3-hudson-boulevard.php

TowerVerre:)
Jan 23, 2013, 1:54 PM
WOW I love it. The perfect design was made more perfect!

NYguy
Jan 23, 2013, 10:06 PM
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/realestate/commercial/lucky_at_hudson_blvd_1vlWlcVUhWwWkXtdAPt3HI

Lucky ‘7’ at 3 Hudson Blvd.


http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2013/01/23/business/web_photos/23.1F032.lois1--300x450.jpg

http://www.fxfowle.com/projects/mixed-use/3-hudson-boulevard.php


The design of the building itself hasn't changed, it's just a different rendering.




http://therealdeal.com/blog/2013/01/23/moinians-hudson-yards-area-tower-will-twist-upward-new-renderings-show/

Moinian’s Hudson Yards-area tower will twist upward, new renderings show


http://therealdeal.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/1243876613.jpg


Christopher Cameron
January 23, 2013


New renderings are out today of developer Joseph Moinian’s forthcoming 1.7 million-square-foot tower near Hundson Yards, the New York Post reported. The 1,000-foot tower is designed by Dan Kaplan of FXFOWLE and will twist from its base to catch the sunlight. “It has a subtle, elegant spin and only rotates the 22 degrees as you go up,” Kaplan, said. “It’s enough to give it a distinctive form, but not so much that it contorts the building.”

The building, which is located at 3 Hudson Boulevard, between West 34th and 35th streets, will also have several roof terraces and a rooftop deck with shielding from the wind.

NYguy
Jan 24, 2013, 2:16 PM
Expectations for this one heat up as we near the opening of the 7 line extension that will connect the west side with the rest of the City.


http://www.costar.com/News/Article/Moinian-Taps-Avison-Young-To-Lease-New-Office-Tower/145040

Moinian Taps Avison Young To Lease New Office Tower
Upstart Canadian Firm Lands Exclusive Office Leasing Listing for 3 Hudson

By CoStar Research
January 23, 2013


The 65-story tower, designed by architecture firm FXFOWLE, will be built at the intersection of West 34th Street and 11th Avenue, directly across from the Javits Convention Center. At more than 1,000 feet tall, 3 Hudson Boulevard will be one of the tallest buildings in New York City when built. Office space on floors nine through 45 of the tower will be column-free, offering 14-foot slab-to-slab ceiling heights. The building's design will feature a curtain wall comprising spectrally selective glass that enhances environmental performance and will be adorned with an array of integrated photovoltaic sunshades, as well as a host of green design features incorporating the latest in energy efficiency and resource-conservation technology.

"3 Hudson Boulevard embodies years of experience and research in creating the state-of-the-art, sustainable skyscraper," said Dan Kaplan, senior partner at FXFOWLE. "Its unique torqued form will cut a distinctive and elegant profile on Manhattan's skyline."

If construction commences as expected in 2014, it would reach completion and accommodate tenants starting in 2016.

As planned, 3 Hudson Boulevard will provide access via an adjacent pavilion to the future 7 Line Extension Subway Station, scheduled to open in 2014. Additionally, the building will be within walking distance of Penn Station and the new Moynihan Station, as well as the Port Authority Bus Terminal.

"3 Hudson Boulevard is a stunning addition to the New York skyline, offering an outstanding location, spectacular views and prime access to what will be one of New York's largest subway stations," said Joseph Moinian, CEO of The Moinian Group. "Dan Kaplan and his team at FXFOWLE have truly outdone themselves, and we believe Avison Young's experienced New York team, led by Arthur J. Mirante, II, will bring the energy and drive necessary to orchestrate a successful leasing program in this quickly emerging office market."

In addition to Mirante, the Avison Young team on the listing assignment includes Michael Gottlieb and Anthony LoPresti. Avison Young Principal Elliot Baum is managing the marketing and creative campaign for the building.

"The site of 3 Hudson Boulevard offers tremendous access to multiple transportation hubs and provides for unobstructed views of the Hudson River to the west, affording office tenants a highly-accessible, best-in-class location," noted Mirante. "The design of the building provides for unique efficiency and flexibility in accommodating the office space needs of tenants in a broad range of industries, including those with significant large-block requirements."

The new building will be completely open on all four sides, with street access on three sides. "A true rarity for this market," noted AV's Gottlieb.

hunser
Jan 24, 2013, 3:57 PM
Glad to see they kept the design! Another 1000 footer coming soon...

NYguy
Jan 24, 2013, 9:30 PM
As of now, we're looking at a 4-way battel between Related, Brookfield, Extell, and Moinian to get the next big anchor tenant for the West Side.

http://commercialobserver.com/2013/01/avison-young-tapped-as-leasing-agent-to-3-hudson-blvd/

January 24, 2013
By Karsten Strauss


Avison is now in search of an anchor tenant for the building and has already begun contacting potential parties that the firm knows are in the market for office space, Mr. Mirante explained. Though he would not name names, he said that companies talking with Related Companies and Manhattan West landlords are Avison’s first logical targets.

An anchor tenant for a development like 3 Hudson Blvd. would normally have a 500,000 square foot requirement, Mirante explained. That said, it’s also possible that two tenants requiring about 200,000 to 250,000 square feet could fulfill the anchor tenant void, he added.

An anchor tenant would also have a significant influence on what type of retail the buildings first several floors would house, said Mr. Mirante. “We could have a vertical mall in there, we could have a big box user, and we could have theatres.” An anchor’s preference could vary depending on the nature of the tenant’s business. “From our point of view, we should remain very flexible.”

The 65-story tower, designed by architecture firm FXFOWLE, will be situated at the intersection of West 34th Street and 11th Avenue, directly across from the Javits Convention Center, 3 Hudson Boulevard will provide access via an adjacent pavilion to the future 7 Line Extension Subway Station, scheduled to open in 2014. Additionally, the building will be within walking distance of major transportation hubs at Penn Station and the new Moynihan Station, as well as the Port Authority Bus Terminal

Architecturally, the building is planned to reach over 1,000 feet tall, will be one of the tallest buildings in New York City upon completion. The design calls for large windows on all of the tower’s office floors, allowing views of the Hudson River, the High Line and the Hudson Yards district, as well as the Tappan Zee and Verrazano-Narrows bridges from the upper floors. Class A office space on floors nine through 45 of the tower will be column-free, offering 14-foot slab-to-slab ceiling heights.

Each of the building’s terraces will be accented by sky gardens with planted green roofs that contribute to improved storm-water management and reduce heat gain.

JayPro
Jan 24, 2013, 10:07 PM
So as I understand it, this will rise directly next to the Coach/Ralph Lauren/Hudson Yards megaproject...would that be accurate?

yankeesfan1000
Jan 24, 2013, 10:16 PM
^^

This is where it says, Monian, in the map below, and the Coach Tower is at the bottom of the map where it says, South Office Tower, and there have been rumors Ralph Lauren is considering anchoring the, 'North Office Tower," and the latter two are part of Related's Hudson Yards development. So all of those will be a couple blocks away from one another. The Sherwood Equities building doesn't have a thread I don't think, but the Extell building does, it's being called "One Hudson Yards."

Image is NYGuys, I think.

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/142921329/original.jpg

RoldanTTLB
Jan 24, 2013, 10:17 PM
Across the park and north 3 blocks or so from there.

Onn
Jan 24, 2013, 10:48 PM
As of now, we're looking at a 4-way battel between Related, Brookfield, Extell, and Moinian to get the next big anchor tenant for the West Side.

So who most likely is next in line after Related, assuming they can offer the best prices? I would say Bookfield because they draw from their current client pool if necessary. Although Extell seems to be very agressive in their marketing and pricing on their other projects around the city, and 3 Hudson Blvd has sky gardens and solar power meaning it could be the dark horse of the bunch. Decisions, Decisions...

aquablue
Jan 24, 2013, 10:50 PM
The Javitz hotel site, could that hold a supertall?

yankeesfan1000
Jan 24, 2013, 11:37 PM
^

Max FAR for that site is 24, so yeah.

Edit: Source on that is this PDF file (http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/pdf/hyards/hy_zoning_012005.pdf) from the city, it's a big file be forewarned, but if you scroll to page 5 it shows all the maximum FAR limits by site/block for the Hudson Yards neighborhood.

NYguy
Jan 24, 2013, 11:42 PM
So as I understand it, this will rise directly next to the Coach/Ralph Lauren/Hudson Yards megaproject...would that be accurate?

It would rise directly north of Extell's One Hudson Yards (shown above). It will be the NW corner of the so called "4 corners" towers.



The Sherwood Equities building doesn't have a thread I don't think

There's one here...
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=184944



The Javitz hotel site, could that hold a supertall?

It could, depending on design. Gary Barnett once proposed a 980 ft hotel there.


So who most likely is next in line after Related, assuming they can offer the best prices? I would say Bookfield because they draw from their current client pool if necessary. Although Extell seems to be very agressive in their marketing and pricing on their other projects around the city, and 3 Hudson Blvd has sky gardens and solar power meaning it could be the dark horse of the bunch. Decisions, Decisions...

The thing about 3 Hudson is that it is mixed use. Though all of the towers will have some connection to the new station, 3 Hudson and 1 Hudson Yards by Extell are directly situated above the station, which is why construction is pending work there. Barnett has said his foundation is partially built due to the station, I'm not sure about this one.

But they are keeping options open...

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/realestate/commercial/lucky_at_hudson_blvd_1vlWlcVUhWwWkXtdAPt3HI

The base could be designed as either trading or retail, Mirante said, with residential added at the top of the tower should an anchor office tenant not object. Asking rents for the base will start in the $80s per foot and rise from there. “The whole building could be office or mixed use,” said Mirante. “We really have a clean slate, which is really exciting and will allow us to go after the monster tenants.”

This is already a beast, but I wouldn't mind if they could work out an extra hundred feet or so here.

NYguy
Apr 20, 2013, 7:48 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/21/realestate/hudson-yards-on-track-at-last.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

By C. J. HUGHES
April 19, 2013


Condos are also envisioned for 3 Hudson Boulevard, a 72-story office tower by the Moinian Group at 11th Avenue and 34th Street. In an unusual combination for New York (allowed by the area’s zoning), the 150 condos will be under the same roof as offices; an anchor office tenant is still wanting. “I’m keeping this flexible,” said Joseph Moinian, the firm’s chief executive.



http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2013/04/21/realestate/21-cov-map/21-cov-map-popup.png

NYguy
May 1, 2013, 3:49 PM
http://therealdeal.com/issues_articles/the-far-side/

Office developers compete for anchor tenants on Manhattan’s western edge
With only a finite number of large potential renters, the fight for office tenants on the West Side is heating up.


May 01, 2013
By Adam Pincus


Only a few times in modern Manhattan history has an entirely new office district sprung up all at once. In the 1930s, there was Rockefeller Center; the 1970s saw the World Trade Center complex; and today, developers are planning nearly 15 million square feet of new office space in the Hudson Yards area in the 30s on the Far West Side. The new projects expected to rise over the next decade include the Related Companies’ North and South towers at Hudson Yards, Extell Development’s One Hudson Yards, Brookfield Office Properties’ Manhattan West and Moinian’s 3 Hudson Boulevard, as well as Sherwood Equities’ 447 10th Avenue and Alloy Development’s 450 Hudson Park Boulevard.

But before starting construction on these new towers, developers must first land an anchor tenant willing to take at least 400,000 square feet of space. With only a finite number of large potential renters, the competition for office tenants is heating up, as some of the city’s top commercial leasing brokers and developers battle each other with slick marketing campaigns and — of course — behind-the-scenes jabs at rival projects.

In 2011, fashion manufacturer Coach signed on to be an anchor tenant of Related’s South Tower. But Coach was already located a few blocks away, in a building directly in the path of Hudson Yards bulldozers. For many of the other big companies whose names are being kicked around as possible anchor tenants, a move to the Far West Side would represent a significant geographic shift from Midtown or Downtown.

There are currently 10 to 20 companies said to be on the hunt for large chunks of Manhattan office space, brokers said. These include media companies Time Warner, Sony, CBS and News Corp.; law firms White & Case and Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom; advertising firm GroupM; financial giant Credit Suisse; and fashion house Ralph Lauren.

Brokers for the new Hudson Yards–area towers are fighting to lure these tenants, but their efforts could be in vain if companies decide to stay in their current locations, or move to existing office towers instead. Despite these challenges, Hudson Yards so far appears to be beating the odds. Last month, Related snagged two more tenants for the South Tower: French cosmetics maker L’Oreal and software firm SAP.

3 Hudson Boulevard
Developer: The Moinian Group

Size: 1.8 million square feet
Expected completion date: 2016

Some consider the Moinian Group’s 3 Hudson Boulevard to be the best-positioned of the Far West Side’s new buildings: It sits on top of the No. 7 subway station and across from the Jacob K. Javits Convention Center.

Another advantage to the FXFOWLE Architects–designed project is that “you are not on a platform, you are on bedrock,” said Arthur Mirante, president of the tristate region for commercial firm Avison Young, which is handling leasing at 3 Hudson Boulevard. He said he also points out to potential tenants that “no water got anywhere near this with [Hurricane] Sandy. [Yet] you are on the Hudson River with water views.”

Like Related did with Coach, Moinian will look for prospective tenants that would want to sell their existing building in exchange for a condo unit at 3 Hudson, Mirante said.

Asking rents in the 1.8 million-square-foot building are currently $85 per square foot, according to Mirante, but ultimately, “We hope to achieve in excess of $100 [per foot] in the tower.”

A challenge facing the project is that while Moinian is well known as a residential developer and an office owner, the firm has limited experience as a ground-up, Class A office tower builder. Moinian’s residential management was criticized in the wake of Hurricane Sandy, and insiders said the company’s access to construction financing is not as strong as other developers’. For that reason, sources expect Moinian to partner with a more-established office landlord to move the project forward, much as it did with SL Green Realty at 3 Columbus Circle.

In response to those criticisms, a spokesperson for Moinian said the company has three decades of development experience and strong relationships with lenders, and issued the following statement: “The Moinian Group is looking forward to breaking ground on 3 Hudson Boulevard and efficiently delivering this elegant office tower to Manhattan’s new West Side.”

The spokesperson declined to comment on whether Moinian is planning to partner with another developer on the project.

NYguy
May 22, 2013, 12:08 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/22/realestate/commercial/the-30-minute-interview-bruce-s-fowle.html?_r=0

The 30-Minute Interview
Bruce S. Fowle


By VIVIAN MARINO
May 21, 2013


Q. Any other projects you can talk about?

A. We have a high-rise building on the West Side right next to the Hudson Yards project — 3 Hudson Boulevard, a 66-story office building. It’s the Moinian building. It’s gone in a series of phases because it was tied to the No. 7 subway. We had done a lot of work initially to get the foundation work in place so that the No. 7 could be coordinated with that.

JayPro
May 22, 2013, 8:42 PM
It just dawned on me how nicely this will complement NYTimes, especially with the fin-like elements on top...provided that the design remains as is and given my understanding of this tower's proximity to NYT.

reencharles
May 22, 2013, 11:10 PM
66 floors? Before it was 72... Then it must have a reduced height. (Or not)

NYguy
May 23, 2013, 2:00 PM
Its a mixed use (residential/office) building, so the exact number of floors depends on the tenant, and also what they count as floors.


An anchor tenant for a development like 3 Hudson Blvd. would normally have a 500,000 square foot requirement, Mirante explained. That said, it’s also possible that two tenants requiring about 200,000 to 250,000 square feet could fulfill the anchortenant void, he added. An anchor tenant would also have a significant influence on what type of retail the buildings first several floors would house, said Mr. Mirante. “We could have a vertical mall in there, we could have a big box user, and we could have theatres.” An anchor’s preference could vary depending on the nature of the tenant’s business. “From our point of view, we should remain very flexible.”

The 65-story tower, designed by architecture firm FXFOWLE, will be situated at the intersection of West 34th Street and 11th Avenue, directly across from the Javits Convention Center, 3 Hudson Boulevard will provide access via an adjacent pavilion to the future 7 Line Extension Subway Station, scheduled to open in 2014. Additionally, the building will be within walking distance of major transportation hubs at Penn Station and the new Moynihan Station, as well as the Port Authority Bus Terminal.

Architecturally, the building is planned to reach over 1,000 feet tall, will be one of the tallest buildings in New York City.

NYguy
Jun 11, 2013, 12:28 PM
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/realestate/commercial/it_all_greek_to_calatrava_AlE55xiCHed4qXfWshSVJN

By STEVE CUOZZO
June 10, 2013



Moinian’s planned Hudson Yards District tower will cost at least $800 million to $900 million to build and will need to pre-lease “a third to half” of its 1.5 million square feet of offices to get built, he said yesterday. Whether it’s 33 percent or 50 percent “depends on how much equity I put in,” Moinian said with a laugh. “Would I do this on spec? Never,” he laughed again.

The project at 11th Avenue and West 34th Street, called 3 Hudson Boulevard, is to be formally “unveiled” today. You might ask: unveil what, since The Post’s Lois Weiss first reported its size, location and design back in January.

Well, the developer’s Moinian Group wants to keep his dream clear in the public’s mind and differentiate it from similarly named projects on the white-hot Far West Side. He also wants to signal that he fully intends to build it — and not hold out to sell the valuable land or trade it, as Extell chief Gary Barnett is doing with a nearby site he’s in contract to swap with Related Cos.

Related controls the 26-acre Hudson Yards rail yard site between 10th and 12th avenues and West 30th and 33rd streets, where it’s begun work on the new Coach Inc. headquarters tower. Extell’s “One Hudson Yards” site — a name that did not go down well with Related chief Stephen Ross — is directly south of Moinian’s land and north of Related’s.

A cynic might ask whether showing off 3 Hudson Blvd., designed by FXFowle’s Dan Kaplan, on the heels of the Extell-Related swap might be an inducement to another company — Related, maybe? — to make an offer for Moinian’s site. But he said firmly: “We have no such plans, nor are we talking to anyone about any kind of swap.

“There have been no talks, no approaches,” he emphasized.

Even so, the timetable depends on finding one or more office tenants. That is far from impossible — as Related proved with Coach, L’Oreal and SAP for its first tower on 10th Avenue — but no walk in the park either.

There’s no question 3 Hudson Blvd. enjoys a strong location — not only because of the subway entrance, but also for its proximity to the Javits Center and the new Hudson Park and Boulevard under construction between 10th and 11th avenues from 34th-39th streets.

Today, brokerage Avison Young tristate President Arthur Mirante is expected to discuss the kinds of tenants Moinian will be hunting for 3 Hudson Blvd.’s 47,000 square-foot floor plates at the podium level, 30,000 to 35,000 square-foot plates above it, and 22,000 square feet of retail on the 11th Avenue side.

Besides proposed LEED Platinum certification, amenities will include a “sky club lobby” at the top.

Moinian Group’s high-profile Manhattan commercial properties include the W Downtown Hotel and the re-clad 3 Columbus Circle — “which was harder than building ground-up,” Moinian said.

As for Related’s neighboring mega-complex, Moinian called it “one of the greatest projects in the United States and it will do very, very well. We cannot wait for them to succeed with it, which I’m sure they will.”

-Filipe-
Jun 11, 2013, 1:39 PM
so does that mean more renderings today :cheers:

Blaze23
Jun 11, 2013, 5:06 PM
looks the same. Few more details tho.

http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2013/06/11/3_hudson_boulevards_sky_club_possible_condos_revealed.php#more

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/51b74bf2f92ea1287e02ddf1/Hudson_context.jpg

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/51b74beff92ea1287e02dde7/3%20Hudson%20-%20exterior%20facing%20south.jpg

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/51b74becf92ea1287e02dddd/34th_Street.jpg

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/51b74be9f92ea1287e02ddd3/3-Hudson-Rooftop.jpg

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/51b74bdaf92ea1287e02dda1/34th_Street_Cropped.jpg

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/51b74bddf92ea1287e02ddab/11th%20Ave%20South_context%20Cropped.jpg

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/51b74be0f92ea1287e02ddb5/11th%20Ave%20North_context%20Cropped.jpg

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/51b74be6f92ea1287e02ddc9/Green_Diagram.jpg

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/51b74be9f92ea1287e02ddd3/3-Hudson-Rooftop.jpg

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/51b74be6f92ea1287e02ddc9/Green_Diagram.jpg

MarshallKnight
Jun 11, 2013, 5:26 PM
As for Related’s neighboring mega-complex, Moinian called it “one of the greatest projects in the United States and it will do very, very well. We cannot wait for them to succeed with it, which I’m sure they will.”

Nice to hear some kind words from one developer to another. At the end of the day, all these guys building on the Far West Side will depend on each other's success to see the area meet its full potential.

Excited by this sky lounge, up in the parapet gardens. Between this and the top-floor facilities at the HY North Tower, bar-hopping along the new Hudson Blvd. is going to be otherworldly.

Design-mind
Jun 11, 2013, 5:33 PM
http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2013/06/11/3_hudson_boulevards_sky_club_possible_condos_revealed.php#more

Construction is estimated to start late next year or in 2015, with a move-in date of 2017.

I also love the sky lounge. Too bad it won't be open to the public.

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/51b74be9f92ea1287e02ddd3/3-Hudson-Rooftop.jpg

hunser
Jun 11, 2013, 5:54 PM
Fixed that for ya...

looks the same. Few more details tho.

http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2013/06/11/3_hudson_boulevards_sky_club_possible_condos_revealed.php#more

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/51b74bf2f92ea1287e02ddf1/Hudson_context.jpg

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/51b74beff92ea1287e02dde7/3%20Hudson%20-%20exterior%20facing%20south.jpg

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/51b74becf92ea1287e02dddd/34th_Street.jpg

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/51b74be9f92ea1287e02ddd3/3-Hudson-Rooftop.jpg

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/51b74bdaf92ea1287e02dda1/34th_Street_Cropped.jpg

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/51b74bddf92ea1287e02ddab/11th%20Ave%20South_context%20Cropped.jpg

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/51b74be0f92ea1287e02ddb5/11th%20Ave%20North_context%20Cropped.jpg

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/51b74be6f92ea1287e02ddc9/Green_Diagram.jpg

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/51b74be9f92ea1287e02ddd3/3-Hudson-Rooftop.jpg

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/51b74be6f92ea1287e02ddc9/Green_Diagram.jpg

hunser
Jun 11, 2013, 6:00 PM
http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2013/06/11/3_hudson_boulevards_sky_club_possible_condos_revealed.php#more

I still think it's a very elegant design.

We knew that the 1,000-foot skyscraper called 3 Hudson Boulevard, planned for Eleventh Avenue between 34th and 35th streets, was going to be glassy, twisty, and super-dee-duper green. After an announcement today, we've got more renderings (!), plus we know it'll cost $800-900 million to build, that commercial tenants on the lower floors will be asked to pay $85/square foot to lease the space, that six-story high LED screens on two sides will flash occupants' branding or art installations at the street level, and that the roof will hold a two-floor "sky club" complete with swimming pool, greenery and foliage, terraces, event spaces, meeting rooms, and areas for dining, drinking, and lounging. Most importantly (to us at least), the Moinian Group's 3 Hudson Boulevard could pose a bit of friendly competition to big-name sky-high residential properties like One57 and 432 Park—because condos are slated to occupy 300,000 square feet on floors 49 through 63, with a dedicated elevator bank and other amenities and unit sizes TBD. Be warned: if an eager company is willing to plunk down a bunch of dough for more office space, then the condos might not happen.

It's all designed by Dan Kaplan of FXFOWLE, the architecture firm behind West 15th Street's 35XV, which is also glassy and tapered and full of condos... but quite a bit shorter. The building is aiming for a LEED Platinum certification, the highest rating in the buzzing orbit of green construction. Construction is estimated to start late next year or in 2015, with a move-in date of 2017. To bide your time, here's what you can expect at 3 Hudson Boulevard—from lots of different angles.

Zapatan
Jun 11, 2013, 6:21 PM
That would be awesome if this were the final design, I love this building.


Remember like a year back when they were talking about making this thing 1500+ feet? Whatever happened to those plans... :shrug:

Blaze23
Jun 11, 2013, 6:27 PM
[QUOTE=hunser;6160815]Fixed that for ya...


Thanks! Couldn't get it to post the pics

-Filipe-
Jun 11, 2013, 6:33 PM
That would be awesome if this were the final design, I love this building.


Remember like a year back when they were talking about making this thing 1500+ feet? Whatever happened to those plans... :shrug:

same i love it can't wait to see it done

i think the 1500 was all of us just getting excited lol

JayPro
Jun 11, 2013, 7:27 PM
I will assume that the other *nice*-looking highrises renders #1 and 7 are placeholders...(?)

Blaze23
Jun 11, 2013, 8:23 PM
Guess I'm in the minority here, cause this is an OK building to me, there's nothing too exciting about it design wise. Still I hope it gets built and contributes to the "rise of West side".

NYguy
Jun 11, 2013, 11:14 PM
Remember like a year back when they were talking about making this thing 1500+ feet? Whatever happened to those plans... :shrug:

This building was never 1,500 ft.



http://www.rew-online.com/2013/06/11/moinian-shows-off-3-hudson-boulevard/

Moinian shows off 3 Hudson Boulevard

By REW Staff
June 11, 2013


Three Hudson Boulevard has been a long game for Joe Moinian.

The developer can’t quite recall how much he paid for the three parcels of land he bought on 34th Street and 11th Avenue some two decades ago.

Two of those three lots were claimed by the city through eminent domain in 2007 to develop Hudson Boulevard, and the remaining lot has been leased to the city to use as a staging ground for the new subway station under construction on the far West Side, in what to most New Yorkers still seems like a no-man’s land of endless construction, as opposed to the new neighborhood envisioned by some of the city’s biggest developers.

Yesterday, however, Moinian officially unveiled his Hudson Yards endgame: a 1,000-foot-tall, gently twisting office tower designed by Dan Kaplan of FXFOWLE.

“The building is going to be a pinnacle of elegance along the new Hudson Boulevard,” Moinian said. The planned tower would offer at least 1.5 million s/f of rentable office space and 22,000 s/f of retail, with another 300,000 s/f at the top that may be residential condos.

But office leasing is the first order of business, Moinian told reporters yesterday, and construction will not begin without an anchor tenant. Asking rent in the base of the tower averages $85 psf, according to Arthur Mirante of Avison Young, who has been retained to lease the office space. On the upper floors, Mirante said he would discourage Moinian from considering less than $100 psf.

Mirante’s sales pitch is focused on the building’s efficient and modern design, as well as some interesting branding opportunities for major tenants.
Modern companies, he said, want office space that is cost-efficient, high-tech and worker-friendly. “The building they occupy should not only work well, but it should also enhance the image, it should help promote the identity, the brand of the company and the office space should help that company attract and retain talent,” he said. “They want it to be friendly; they want it to make their employees happy. 3HB has been designed to satisfy all of these criteria.”

Air and light are also important aspects of the proposed building, he explained, with a design that takes advantage of the lot’s four unobstructed sides and twists away from the street grid to directly face the sun as it rises from the ground, in Kaplan’s words, “sort of like a plant that grows.”

Kaplan proposes treating the windows of the lower six floors with a coating embedded with LED pixels, allowing people in the building to look out through what seems to be clear glass, while people on the outside will see a huge full-color digital screen. The displays will not be available to lease to advertisers in the way signs are in Times Square, Moinian said, but it could be used for public art projects and tenant branding.

At the top of the building, Kaplan has designed a two-story sky lounge that he described as a culmination of all his past rooftop experiences. Machinery would be placed on lower floors, so that the roof is quiet, and tall screens would protect people from the wind.

But while the architect emphasized the amenity space as a lofty retreat from the street below, Mirante pointed out that signage on the top of the building would be visible for miles.




http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-11/moinian-seeking-above-market-rents-for-hudson-yards-tower.html


....Plans call for offices on the third to 46th floors and residential condominiums above. Those may be switched to offices if it’s financially advantageous, Moinian said.

Asking office rents in Midtown, the priciest U.S. office market, averaged just shy of $70 a square foot in May, the highest in more than three years, CBRE Group Inc., the world’s biggest commercial real estate services firm, reported yesterday.

Related hasn’t disclosed what it’s charging for its Hudson Yards offices.

Moinian’s proposed tower would have a entrance on Hudson Boulevard, which would be mostly parkland. Plans call for a plaza that would be twice the size of the one in front of the Seagram Building on Park Avenue, said Daniel Kaplan of FXFowle Architects LLP, which designed the Moinian tower.

An entrance to the new terminus of the No. 7 subway line, which the state Metropolitan Transportation Authority is spending $2.4 billion to extend, would sit in the park in front of the tower. The station would be the biggest in the city, large enough to fit the Empire State Building if turned on its side, according to Oskar Brecher, development director for the Moinian Group.

Zapatan
Jun 11, 2013, 11:33 PM
This was from a while ago

http://therealdeal.com/blog/2012/05/...ential-towers/


New York City has entered the age of a residential arms race, where developers continue to try top each other, literally, in the height of their developments, according to the New York Times. By 2016 the city could have six of the country’s 10 tallest towers and three of its highest residential buildings.

Last year, 8 Spruce Street became the country’s tallest rental tower. (The Times noted that architect Frank Gehry urged developer Forest City Ratner to build a few feet short of Trump World Tower so as not to draw The Donald’s ire.)

Meanwhile, Extell Development’s One57 just broke a Manhattan sales record on its way to 1,004 feet in height, which will make it the tallest residential tower in Manhattan. But it won’t hold that title for long. The residential structure CIM Group and Harry Macklowe plan for 432 Park Avenue is slated to reach 1,398 feet in 2016, and even later, the GiraSole tower proposed for 11th Avenue could rise to a similar height.

MarshallKnight
Jun 11, 2013, 11:52 PM
I also love the sky lounge. Too bad it won't be open to the public.


Ah damn, really? I didn't see that.

Well, time to get some of those friends in high places I keep hearing about.

NYguy
Jun 12, 2013, 12:43 AM
This was from a while ago

http://therealdeal.com/blog/2012/05/...ential-towers/


Yeah, I don't see your point. I remember a few forumers suggesting this tower would be taller, but it was never so.