Downtown Vancouver Updates - Page 1062

Changing City · #**21221** Posted **Jan 25, 2023, 12:37 AM**

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Originally Posted by gaviscon

I have a feeling he had this announcement in time for the Sinclair Center?
He might already know it could be Vancouver's tallest or encouraging it to be.

That wouldn't be necessary. The Federal Government can ignore any City of Vancouver policy, (as can the Province). That's why the new Defence Department building in Kitsilano didn't get a Development Permit.

gaviscon · #**21222** Posted **Jan 25, 2023, 3:45 AM**

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Originally Posted by Changing City

That wouldn't be necessary. The Federal Government can ignore any City of Vancouver policy, (as can the Province). That's why the new Defence Department building in Kitsilano didn't get a Development Permit.

Interesting!

Jimbo604 · #**21223** Posted **Jan 25, 2023, 5:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jimbo604

Finally someone at city hall speaking about the impact of view cones and shadowing:

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/vancouver-mountain-view-cones-shadowing-review

Some quotes:
During Mayor Ken Sim’s first annual “State of the City” address to the Greater Vancouver Board of Trade on Tuesday afternoon, he said his ABC Vancouver party majority in City Council would look into making adjustments to both view cone and shadowing considerations.

The forthcoming review on both types of restrictions to building heights is intended to be part of a broader analysis of all the barriers to generating new housing. ...

“We need to change the question where we don’t come up with 600 reasons why we don’t do something. Instead, the question should be how do we get to ‘Yes’ if it’s a project that makes sense. What do we need to do to make this happen? How can we make your business or opportunity succeed in this city? These are the questions we should be asking, and that’s the culture I want to build in the City of Vancouver.”

Sounds like Mayor SIM might even be thinking about reigning in city hall bureaucracy with his 600 reasons statement. What a pleasant change from past two mayors.

madog222 · #**21224** Posted **Jan 27, 2023, 8:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by Changing City

Here's another West End rezoning: 82 condos and 44 social housing units on Harwood Street. 32 storeys (300 feet) replacing a 28 unit co-op sold last year for just over $40m.

6 years later and a new proposal, same height with double the number of units.
269 rental units with 20% below market.

https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/1055-harwood-st

Image from GBL Architects

Changing City · #**21225** Posted **Jan 27, 2023, 10:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by madog222

6 years later and a new proposal, same height with double the number of units.
269 rental units with 20% below market.

https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/1055-harwood-st

Nice! Looks like Strand & Intracorp have sold the site to GWL, (who just developed the blue and yellow rental tower on Robson next to The Landmark). That confirms the trend of rental rather than condo in the West End - and we get double the units in the process.

Intracorp seem to have retained the similar site at Thurlow and Burnaby where they also obtained a rezoning for another 30 storey condo / non market rental.

officedweller · #**21226** Posted **Jan 27, 2023, 10:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by madog222

6 years later and a new proposal, same height with double the number of units.

Looks like there are a lot fewer windows (ie for LEED).
Between the balconies I see:
vision/spandrel/vision/spandrel/spandrel/spandrel/vision/spandrel/vision

The areas between the balconies are probably for bedrooms.

GenWhy? · #**21227** Posted **Jan 27, 2023, 11:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by officedweller

Looks like there are a lot fewer windows (ie for LEED).
Between the balconies I see:
vision/spandrel/vision/spandrel/spandrel/spandrel/vision/spandrel/vision

The areas between the balconies are probably for bedrooms.

Energy requirements for the Path B (non LEED) changed in 2022 and more changes are coming this year so they're just adjusting for that. Sustainability page didn't mention LEED (may have missed it). It's a bit of a pain.

hollywoodnorth · #**21228** Posted **Jan 27, 2023, 11:50 PM**

double the units and the SAME amount of elevators I am sure .... whats that 2 elevators for that many units? not fun to live in.

officedweller · #**21229** Posted **Jan 27, 2023, 11:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by hollywoodnorth

double the units and the SAME amount of elevators I am sure .... whats that 2 elevators for that many units? not fun to live in.

I see 3 elevators on the plans.

jollyburger · #**21230** Posted **Jan 28, 2023, 12:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by hollywoodnorth

double the units and the SAME amount of elevators I am sure .... whats that 2 elevators for that many units? not fun to live in.

3 elevators

hollywoodnorth · #**21231** Posted **Jan 28, 2023, 1:24 AM**

so double the units .... double the elevators so they are 6 now?

jollyburger · #**21232** Posted **Jan 28, 2023, 1:41 AM**

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Originally Posted by hollywoodnorth

so double the units .... double the elevators so they are 6 now?

I mean your statement would make sense if all the units were of the same type. By the # of rooms for each unit it's like 120 people per elevator with the old layout (2 elevators) and the new one (3 elevators).

madog222 · #**21233** Posted **Jan 28, 2023, 2:00 AM**

It's 1.45 times as many bedrooms as the previous proposal. Also, the previous proposal had 3 elevators as well, 2 for the strata and 1 for the social housing.

officedweller · #**21234** Posted **Jan 28, 2023, 2:08 AM**

3 elevators for a 32 storey building sounds okay.
Compare to some like Concord's Waterworks at 30-ish storeys and only 2 elevators.
One major factor is to have some redundancy if one is tied up for moving or breaks down.

mcminsen · #**21235** Posted **Jan 30, 2023, 5:32 AM**

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Originally Posted by jollyburger

Amazing, they're finally taking down that Telus crane? Or is it already gone?

http://vanmapp1.vancouver.ca/roadahead/events/details/cc2f11f9-157e-4dd2-8c7d-f31baf04df0e

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Originally Posted by officedweller

Yes, it's already gone.

By me today:

The Telus crane is back.

The first pic below is from today.
The second pic is from November when I went to see for myself that it was gone.

Jan.29 '23, my pic

Nov.26 '22, my pic

madog222 · #**21236** Posted **Jan 30, 2023, 6:33 AM**

It refuses to die!

officedweller · #**21237** Posted **Jan 30, 2023, 7:15 AM**

I posted in the Telus Garden thread.

The old crane was closer to the edge:

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Originally Posted by mcminsen

The eternal crane.

April 7 '19, my pics

FarmerHaight · #**21238** Posted **Jan 30, 2023, 5:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by officedweller

3 elevators for a 32 storey building sounds okay.
Compare to some like Concord's Waterworks at 30-ish storeys and only 2 elevators.
One major factor is to have some redundancy if one is tied up for moving or breaks down.

We had three elevators in our 41-storey building in Metrotown. That was perfectly sufficient 90% of the time, except the other 10% of the time one elevator was broken, a second elevator was reserved for moving, and the third was congested with people returning from work and people picking up food deliveries concurrently.

Our building did not have useable stairs. We were on the 19th floor and I would regularly take the stairs to leave, but even with a key fob I couldn't use the stairs to enter the building. I don't know what dummy made that decision...

WarrenC12 · #**21239** Posted **Jan 30, 2023, 5:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by FarmerHaight

Our building did not have useable stairs. We were on the 19th floor and I would regularly take the stairs to leave, but even with a key fob I couldn't use the stairs to enter the building. I don't know what dummy made that decision...

A cheap developer.

jollyburger · #**21240** Posted **Jan 30, 2023, 7:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

A cheap developer.

Keeping out thieves is more important than stair walkability