Canadian Federal Election

[Atrial78]

Originally Posted by theman23

OECD data

If you take away the last three years, we go from 2nd last place...to 2nd last place!

Our economic growth has been poor.

Important to note that economic growth itself doesn't necessarily lead to a higher quality of life. There are many factors involved, especially the distribution of growth.

I've lived in both the US and Canada and from my experience, the average Canadian lives a better life than the average American. We really take for granted things like functional government, a reasonably educated populace and education costs, reasonable healthcare costs, good infrastructure, expanding public transit in our major cities, etc.

GDP per capita certainly needs to increase, however at the moment Mark Carney appears to have the better plan to actually accomplish this.

[Loco101]

Originally Posted by q12

Danielle Smith asked for foreign interference in our election. She is a traitor and should resign as Premier of Alberta.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/a...o/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=bluesky

She is just terrible as a Premier and political leader. I really hope voters see that PP and her are Maple MAGA and aren't working in the best interests of Canada.

[Loco101]

Originally Posted by Atrial78

Important to note that economic growth itself doesn't necessarily lead to a higher quality of life. There are many factors involved, especially the distribution of growth.

I've lived in both the US and Canada and from my experience, the average Canadian lives a better life than the average American. We really take for granted things like functional government, a reasonably educated populace and education costs, reasonable healthcare costs, good infrastructure, expanding public transit in our major cities, etc.

GDP per capita certainly needs to increase, however at the moment Mark Carney appears to have the better plan to actually accomplish this.

I totally agree with you. Canada always comes out on top when it comes to quality of life for the average person.

[theman23]

Originally Posted by Atrial78

Important to note that economic growth itself doesn't necessarily lead to a higher quality of life. There are many factors involved, especially the distribution of growth.

I've lived in both the US and Canada and from my experience, the average Canadian lives a better life than the average American. We really take for granted things like functional government, a reasonably educated populace and education costs, reasonable healthcare costs, good infrastructure, expanding public transit in our major cities, etc.

GDP per capita certainly needs to increase, however at the moment Mark Carney appears to have the better plan to actually accomplish this.

I've never argued that those things aren't important. If we're going to settle for being less wealthy, we really need to stop comparing ourselves to the United States. I'm honestly not sure why you even brought the USA into this, except to handwave away the problem. Ex America, just about every country that has a higher GDP per capita than we do also has better healthcare, better infrastructure including public transit, better social supports, and equally functional governments.

Originally Posted by Loco101

I totally agree with you. Canada always comes out on top when it comes to quality of life for the average person.

"Canada ranks second last in OECD for economic growth over the last 10 years."

"At least our quality of life is better than the Americans".

Like seriously...what? There are 16 other countries with higher GDPs per capita and 34 that have done better in the last 10 years that we can compare to.

[Loco101]

PP today started the election campaign by saying "hope is on the way."

That line sounded so familiar. I thought and remembered, that is EXACTLY what Tim Hudak said in the 2014 Ontario election campaign. I swear Hudak's people from then are now behind the scenes now for PP. Hudak just like PP had been criticized for being too negative and tried the line to attempt a positive spin which didn't work.

Here is an Ontario Liberal ad from 2014 showing Hudak using the same line: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUFE3o5mUqk

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by theman23

I've never argued that those things aren't important. If we're going to settle for being less wealthy, we really need to stop comparing ourselves to the United States. I'm honestly not sure why you even brought the USA into this, except to handwave away the problem. Ex America, just about every country that has a higher GDP per capita than we do also has better healthcare, better infrastructure including public transit, better social supports, and equally functional governments.



"Canada ranks second last in OECD for economic growth over the last 10 years."

"At least our quality of life is better than the Americans".

Like seriously...what? There are 16 other countries with higher GDPs per capita and 34 that have done better in the last 10 years that we can compare to.

This needs to be said more often.

[Acajack]

It was dubbed into French and released on francophone Liberal channels (as everything is systematically) but 95% of Québécois would totally fail Mark Carney’s test of what it takes to be Canadian.

Yes I know it was a light-hearted piece with lots of artistic licence.

[Marshsparrow]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

pathetic.

How do Conservatives explain this to their children?
Why is this necessary?
This is the part of the Conservatives that really turn people off and again Pierre does more and more to incite them and doesn't put an end to it.

[Hecate]

Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

How do Conservatives explain this to their children?
Why is this necessary?
This is the part of the Conservatives that really turn people off and again Pierre does more and more to incite them and doesn't put an end to it.

They explain it to their kids the same way you explain to yours how all conservatives are evil nazis trying to destroy the country.

For them it is necessary Because they feel personally attacked by their government. They are told their careers are bad(oil industry), they are told their hobbies are bad (hunters/gun enthusiasts) they are told their religion is bad (christians), they are told the vehicles they like are bad(trucks)

Eventually you turn away from society.

[Marshsparrow]

Pierre on X posted "A New Conservative Government will cut income taxes by 15% for the average Canadian..."

Where can one find the details of this tax package and how it will be paid for?

[Nite]

Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

Pierre on X posted "A New Conservative Government will cut income taxes by 15% for the average Canadian..."

Where can one find the details of this tax package and how it will be paid for?

Exactly, which programs will they kill to pay for this??
I am think $10 daycare

[Nite]

Originally Posted by Hecate

They explain it to their kids the same way you explain to yours how all conservatives are evil nazis trying to destroy the country.

For them it is necessary Because they feel personally attacked by their government. They are told their careers are bad(oil industry), they are told their hobbies are bad (hunters/gun enthusiasts) they are told their religion is bad (christians), they are told the vehicles they like are bad(trucks)

Eventually you turn away from society.

Yes Christians the most persecuted and discriminated group in Canada
I can think of about a 20 other groups who have actually been discriminated against by the Canadian government throughout Canadian history who don't have Fuck Carney/Trudeau's signs up.

[q12]

Originally Posted by Hecate

They explain it to their kids the same way you explain to yours how all conservatives are evil nazis trying to destroy the country.

All Conservatives? I don't think most Canadians who are voting for Mark Carney think all Conservatives are evil nazis.

Mark Carney is basically a Progressive Conservative. You know the party that used to exist in Canada as a normal centre-right party.

PP is from the Reform Party Conservatives (aligned with these fuck everyone hard right folks).

So the current Conservative Party of Canada does not represent all conservatives. Many people in Canada would vote for a Progressive Conservative Party of Canada.

[Marshsparrow]

Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

Pierre on X posted "A New Conservative Government will cut income taxes by 15% for the average Canadian..."

Where can one find the details of this tax package and how it will be paid for?

He also said that Liberals have increased taxes 80% which I cannot find record of...

The disinformation / misinformation is off the charts.

[YOWetal]

Originally Posted by Acajack

It was dubbed into French and released on francophone Liberal channels (as everything is systematically) but 95% of Québécois would totally fail Mark Carney’s test of what it takes to be Canadian.

Yes I know it was a light-hearted piece with lots of artistic licence.

They should have done a French version. Bes case with a Quebec director living in the US.

Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

He also said that Liberals have increased taxes 80% which I cannot find record of...

The disinformation / misinformation is off the charts.

The carbon tax went up 80% maybe. It looks like total nonsense to most people. Frankly the 15% tax cut is such a bad bold policy and totally tone deaf to the moment.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by q12

All Conservatives? I don't think most Canadians who are voting for Mark Carney think all Conservatives are evil nazis.

Mark Carney is basically a Progressive Conservative. You know the party that used to exist in Canada as a normal centre-right party.

PP is from the Reform Party Conservatives (aligned with these fuck everyone hard right folks).

So the current Conservative Party of Canada does not represent all conservatives. Many people in Canada would vote for a Progressive Conservative Party of Canada.

Agree 100%

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by Hecate

They explain it to their kids the same way you explain to yours how all conservatives are evil nazis trying to destroy the country.

For them it is necessary Because they feel personally attacked by their government. They are told their careers are bad(oil industry), they are told their hobbies are bad (hunters/gun enthusiasts) they are told their religion is bad (christians), they are told the vehicles they like are bad(trucks)

Eventually you turn away from society.

This is interesting. I don't recall the Liberals ever saying anything about Christianity being bad. Can you provide a source for this.

Having said that, I still remember in another thread you were talking about being of Ukrainian ancestry, and how you harbour resentment against the Russians, for wiping out some of your family members in the Holodomor. You do realise that PP and the Conservatives voting against continuing to give Ukraine money to assist them in their war against Russia. Do you know feel the Government should have stayed out of the conflict?

[travis3000]

Originally Posted by Nite

Exactly, which programs will they kill to pay for this??
I am think $10 daycare

You can kiss childcare and dental goodbye.

[Hecate]

Originally Posted by Nite

Yes Christians the most persecuted and discriminated group in Canada
I can think of about a 20 other groups who have actually been discriminated against by the Canadian government throughout Canadian history who don't have Fuck Carney/Trudeau's signs up.

Christianity has to be the most hated on religion in the world right now. Don’t tell me Canadian Christian’s haven’t been discriminated against.

One of the largest hate movements in Canadian history took place a few years ago starting in 2021. More than 30 churches have been burned since 2021, with dozens more being vandalized. None of you cared, and the federal government tried to justify the hate, with sympathy and understanding.

Your team was pulling down statues, beheading the beautiful Queen Victoria statue here in winnipeg. Throwing red paint on it, trashing our flag.

You guys were trashing our flag. The symbol of colonizers. Canceling Canada celebrations in solidarity.

Some truckers put a flag on the terry fox statue and you guys were calling it desecration of a statue.

Now you can’t get enough of the flag.

[travis3000]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

This is interesting. I don't recall the Liberals ever saying anything about Christianity being bad. Can you provide a source for this.

Having said that, I still remember in another thread you were talking about being of Ukrainian ancestry, and how you harbour resentment against the Russians, for wiping out some of your family members in the Holodomor. You do realise that PP and the Conservatives voting against continuing to give Ukraine money to assist them in their war against Russia.

Exactly. Mark Carney was literally at church yesterday before dropping the writ. I honestly feel Conservatives make up half of these issues, or blow them way out of proportion. You are free to attend whatever religious services you want in Canada. No questions asked!