Canadian Federal Election

[EnvisionSaintJohn]

Which of the two leaders have a better vision for the future of Canada?

For those who would like to say another leader has a better, or more positive vision for Canada, please feel free to mention them in the comments, and consider the poll an exercise in strategic voting.

[Innsertnamehere]

Couldn't even be bothered to put the NDP in there, eh?

[MolsonExport]

I think the poll should include the NDP, as they are the traditional third party.
While I like Mark Carney, it isn't a certainty that he will get to helm the Liberals

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

I think the poll should include the NDP, as they are the traditional third party.
While I like Mark Carney, it isn't a certainty that he will get to helm the Liberals

Agreed.

I will not cast a vote in the poll.

The poll should really be about who would be a better choice for Liberal Party leadership

[EnvisionSaintJohn]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

I think the poll should include the NDP, as they are the traditional third party.
While I like Mark Carney, it isn't a certainty that he will get to helm the Liberals

And I think Canada should have a proportionally representative electoral system. Since we don't have that, I think it's good to remember the importance of strategic voting.

Considering Canada has only ever elected Liberal and Conservative Prime Ministers, I think it's fair to keep the poll between the two front runners.

While it's not a certainty Carney will get the nomination over Freeland, I think most political observers would say he's the only chance they really have at this point. Chrystia Freeland, on the other hand, would be a disastrous pick for the Liberals... the nuclear option.

Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

Couldn't even be bothered to put the NDP in there, eh?

Like I said, consider it an exercise in strategic voting.

Also, the BQ could very well end up being ahead of the NDP in this upcoming election, should I have added Mr. Blanchet too?

[Calgarian]

Curious what PP will actually do if he gets in, he can blame Trudeau for a bit, but then has to stand on his own merits at some point haha.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by Calgarian

Curious what PP will actually do if he gets in, he can blame Trudeau for a bit, but then has to stand on his own merits at some point haha.

Trudeau blamed Harper for nearly 10 years!!!

[EnvisionSaintJohn]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

The poll should really be about who would be a better choice for Liberal Party leadership

I think that would be a pretty boring thread, and a less interesting poll. I'm confident Carney will get the nomination, and I think comparing Carney with Poilievre in a head to head poll should be interesting.

Some posters on here have claimed some NDP voters will sooner vote for the CPC than the LPC... it would be interesting to see if that phenomenon is reflected in the poll results.

Don't worry, it's an anonymous poll, and open for 270 days if you change your mind, MonctonRad.

[WarrenC12]

It's hard to think of a positive vision when you consider PP because everything he says is horribly negative. I would think in his head he has some positive ideas but we have yet to hear them.

[LuluBobo]

Carney's Liberals are the closest alignment to my political beliefs. But I will likely vote NDP since the Liberals will be demolished in Saskatchewan.

It's almost certainly a Tory government, but I wouldn't be surprised if the campaign results in a minority.

[samne]

Carney finally saw an opening and parachuted himself in. Quite the opportunist. Not opposed to Carney as Liberal Leader. But the Liberals need to at least sit one out and clear the decks before getting back in. Otherwise it’s just status quo of a disastrous last number of years.

[Calgarian]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Trudeau blamed Harper for nearly 10 years!!!

Can't think of the last time I heard Trudeau mention Harper at all...

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Calgarian

Can't think of the last time I heard Trudeau mention Harper at all...

Not since COVID I'd say. Mostly in his first term maybe?

[EnvisionSaintJohn]

Originally Posted by LuluBobo

Carney's Liberals are the closest alignment to my political beliefs. But I will likely vote NDP since the Liberals will be demolished in Saskatchewan.

It's almost certainly a Tory government, but I wouldn't be surprised if the campaign results in a minority.

And that makes total sense based on the polling and electoral history in Sask.

It will be interesting to see if Singh reneges on his intention to topple the government at the earliest opportunity if things really start heating up with Trump. It's not really in his party's best interest to topple the government as soon as possible if PP's CPCs maintain a commanding lead in the polls. The NDP will lose all the power they currently have if the CPC wins a majority, which would make any marginal seat gains they may possibly get from an earlier election pretty meaningless.

[Calgarian]

Singh gets his pension now, no need to support the current government...

[EnvisionSaintJohn]

Originally Posted by Calgarian

Singh gets his pension now, no need to support the current government...

Singh is independently wealthy, and going to cruise to reelection in his riding.

Toppling the government too soon (depending on the polls) could very well result in a CPC majority, where his NDP will have no power whatsoever.

He'd go from holding the balance of power to nothing at all... the NDP hasn't had as much power as they do right now, since they supported the minority government of Pierre Trudeau in the mid 70's.

[Ozabald]

Originally Posted by EnvisionSaintJohn

Singh is independently wealthy, and going to cruise to reelection in his riding.

Toppling the government too soon (depending on the polls) could very well result in a CPC majority, where his NDP will have no power whatsoever.

He'd go from holding the balance of power to nothing at all... the NDP hasn't had as much power as they do right now, since they supported the minority government of Pierre Trudeau in the mid 70's.

Burnaby South is being redistributed into two ridings. Both ridings show leaning towards the Conservatives. Singh will not cruise to re-election.

[WarrenC12]

Waiting to see who is the new PM and what the polls look like is obviously the smartest play.

[lio45]

Originally Posted by EnvisionSaintJohn

And I think Canada should have a proportionally representative electoral system. Since we don't have that, I think it's good to remember the importance of strategic voting.

Considering Canada has only ever elected Liberal and Conservative Prime Ministers, I think it's fair to keep the poll between the two front runners.

While it's not a certainty Carney will get the nomination over Freeland, I think most political observers would say he's the only chance they really have at this point. Chrystia Freeland, on the other hand, would be a disastrous pick for the Liberals... the nuclear option.



Like I said, consider it an exercise in strategic voting.

Also, the BQ could very well end up being ahead of the NDP in this upcoming election, should I have added Mr. Blanchet too?

We have a system of ridings, so strategic voting doesn’t work the simple way you say. You make it sound like Carney vs Poilievre is the equivalent of a nationwide Trump vs Harris in terms of strategic voting (where not voting for one helps the other), while in reality, it’s not like that. For example, my home riding is a BQ stronghold, how am I supposed to “strategically” help weigh in on the side of either Carney or Poilievre?

[Truenorth00]

Weird poll.

There are differences between who I think has a positive vision, who I think will win, who I think should win, etc.