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H-Ville Man
Dec 30, 2006, 3:59 AM
Spent some time @ Murano today and I was really impressed with the small footprint of the building. Of course being a residential structure allows for more of a sleek/slim look.

I have spent considerable time in Chicago and this building reminds me of many of the residential structures in Chi-town. Many of the condo towers in Chicago do not overwhelm you at street level and your eyes are forced to notice the architectural features (glass, light) and height of the building.

I also think the location is excellent. The neighborhood is on the edge of the Central Business District and there is no secret that U of Penn is expanding to east. The 7/8 blocks between the business district and the Schuylkill have tons of opportunity for development and Murano is a great addition in that area.

Congrats to those that have pulled the trigger.

bryson662001
Dec 30, 2006, 4:21 AM
I have spent considerable time in Chicago and this building reminds me of many of the residential structures in Chi-town. Many of the condo towers in Chicago do not overwhelm you at street level and your eyes are forced to notice the architectural features (glass, light) and height of the building.



If I am not mistaken the builder is the same one who did the Saint James on Washington Square and is from Chicago.

spyguy
Dec 30, 2006, 4:40 AM
Murano is designed by SBC, which has done an enormous amount of highrises in Chicago over the last few years.

Actually, this building partly reminds me of one in Chicago:
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=sky55-chicago-il-usa

drgoogle
Dec 30, 2006, 5:57 AM
5k res, 10% now, another 5% 60 days later. rest due at closing. parking is 40k.

Closing is prolly 12 months from now.


Does anyone know how much they are requiring you to put down to sign a contract? Also, how much are parking spaces going for??? Design looks like nothing I have seen before in this city... Start in the right direction.

giovanni sasso
Dec 31, 2006, 12:21 AM
some pictures from yesterday and today ...

http://phillyskyline.com/bldgs/comcast/comcast_uc789_murano.jpg

http://phillyskyline.com/bldgs/murano/murano_uc056.jpg

http://phillyskyline.com/bldgs/murano/murano_uc064.jpg

http://phillyskyline.com/bldgs/murano/murano_uc062.jpg

Pinoy2.0
Dec 31, 2006, 5:21 AM
Now THAT is nice!! Thanks for the update!

http://phillyskyline.com/bldgs/comcast/comcast_uc789_murano.jpg

pentopaper50
Jan 2, 2007, 5:06 AM
5k res, 10% now, another 5% 60 days later. rest due at closing. parking is 40k.

Closing is prolly 12 months from now.

The additional 5% isn't due until June-July 2007.

TechTalkGuy
Jan 7, 2007, 7:54 PM
Update: 1/7/2007
Murano
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/3730/murano1gm7.jpg

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/8508/murano2no6.jpg

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/5821/murano3yd3.jpg

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/2024/murano4xe5.jpg

mglan80
Jan 7, 2007, 9:24 PM
Reminds me of a Robert LaDuke print:
http://phillyskyline.com/bldgs/comcast/comcast_uc789_murano.jpg

Lecom
Jan 7, 2007, 10:32 PM
I hope that RiverCity project goes through, will really enhance the neighborhood.

CondoGuru
Jan 9, 2007, 8:23 PM
Getting back to the Murano, my Turner buddy has told me definitively that they'll be pouring the 8th floor the second week of February. So if they're on the 4th or 5th now, that's roughly one floor per week. That's nuts!

GarCastle
Jan 10, 2007, 7:40 PM
They had some of the outer pillars poured and revealed on the fifth floor this morning.

volguus zildrohar
Jan 11, 2007, 4:10 AM
Getting very up close, Sasso :tup:

H-Ville, Murano and The St. James remind you of Chicago projects because they are built in the 'Chicago style' of cast-in-place concrete.

CondoGuru
Jan 11, 2007, 6:29 PM
They had some of the outer pillars poured and revealed on the fifth floor this morning.

He said they're getting ready to pour the swimming pool, so that must be either the 5th or 6th floor then.

JMininger
Jan 11, 2007, 7:56 PM
He said they're getting ready to pour the swimming pool, so that must be either the 5th or 6th floor then.

According to the Murano website, it is on the 6th floor.

http://themuranocondominium.com/

russbaseball
Jan 11, 2007, 8:07 PM
yea i realized the current floor there working on seems a little taller.. i was wondering if that was for the pool.. good stuff.

JDM0809
Jan 11, 2007, 8:41 PM
Does anyone have any recent pictures???

omp835
Jan 12, 2007, 2:42 PM
^^^Pics from 1/07/07 aren't recent enough?

JDM0809
Jan 12, 2007, 3:48 PM
no... not at the rate they are building. I am interested in seeing the 6th floor (pool).

donybrx
Jan 12, 2007, 6:40 PM
^^^ grab yo camera.....help yourself :)

JDM0809
Jan 12, 2007, 10:20 PM
I hear you... I wish I could but my job has me in another state. Go EAGLES!

drgoogle
Jan 13, 2007, 7:32 AM
Eagles 31, Saints 28.

I hear you... I wish I could but my job has me in another state. Go EAGLES!

slow-v6
Jan 13, 2007, 6:17 PM
I hope that RiverCity project goes through, will really enhance the neighborhood.

I second that..

pentopaper50
Jan 14, 2007, 7:27 PM
Does anyone know why they chose not to incorporate retail space along the sides of the Murnao parking garage? That would definitely have given the neighborhood a shot in the arm and possibly lowered the monthly maintenance charges. I really hope they change their mind. The life of a city, after all, is connected directly to its street life, and this part of Philadelphia definitely needs more of it. There's a also a constant stream of people into the area until 10PM because of Trader's Joes. Retailers would jump at the chance to get some of that traffic. Thoughts?

Muji
Jan 20, 2007, 11:48 PM
Here's a shot from today, January 20:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b196/bruab/DSC00197.jpg

spm1956
Jan 21, 2007, 12:06 AM
My son-in-law said he did some work for a Thomas partners announcement yesterday about another building in the Commerce III site---he thought north of Trader Joes....
Anyone hear anything about this?

Swinefeld
Jan 21, 2007, 9:21 PM
^ Geez, spm, I don't know, but that would be an exciting addition to the neighborhood. Even though it would block my sunlight. :haha:

Some pics from yesterday...

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e388/Swinefeld/New%20Constructon/Murano_07_01.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e388/Swinefeld/New%20Constructon/Murano_07_03.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e388/Swinefeld/New%20Constructon/Murano_07_04.jpg

PhillyRising
Jan 21, 2007, 10:01 PM
I'm really torn. If I had a few million to spend...I'm not sure if I'd want to live in this building for it's stand out design (I think it's going to be an iconic building just for it's shape)...the RATR because of the luxury and access to hotel amenities or 10 Rittenhouse for it's superior location.

I wouldn't know which one to pick!

pentopaper50
Jan 21, 2007, 11:51 PM
The design of 10 Rittenhouse doesn't really get me excited. Murano is clearly the cream of the crop on pure aesthetics, but the Ritz is starting to grow on me. The Ritz should revitalize the immediate area around city hall. There are also two smaller buildings under construction in Old City that are pretty cool. One is by the bridge and the other is near Penn's Landing.

Any updates on how many Murano units are under contract now? Last time I checked, it was 60%, and many of the plum units were not released.

apetrella802
Jan 22, 2007, 12:10 AM
if you have a little more than a few millios bye all three!!!

phillyskyline
Jan 22, 2007, 4:30 AM
I would take the Murano in a heartbeat. Murano's interior design on the website impresses me compared to RATR & 10 Rittenhouse exterior design is too bland for my tastes despite it's ideal location.

We Got Five
Jan 22, 2007, 1:11 PM
Commerce III sight? Can someone help me out with that? I'm curious to know which location this "potentially" building would be placed...there are at least 3 ideal slots of land to develop a large project.

If I lived in the Murano, I would be crossing my fingers that something gets done across the street. I just can't see this beautiful building opening next year with "the shop" across the street.

GarCastle
Jan 23, 2007, 3:54 AM
A couple shots from a few days ago for scale.

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/7415/dscn25186gw.jpg


http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/3588/dscn25158iz.jpg

Awkab
Jan 23, 2007, 4:25 AM
^ wow, it looks so small compared to the Commerce behemoths (I mean in width, not height). I really don't like those buildings...one would have been okay, but two is overkill. I'll be glad when Murano is up and at least draws the eye to something beautiful.

PhillyRising
Jan 23, 2007, 1:52 PM
^ wow, it looks so small compared to the Commerce behemoths (I mean in width, not height). I really don't like those buildings...one would have been okay, but two is overkill. I'll be glad when Murano is up and at least draws the eye to something beautiful.

Especially when they could have just built one building at 1000 feet instead...!

Commerce Square isn't that great but they definetly scream 1980's at you...

omp835
Jan 23, 2007, 2:28 PM
The Commerce twins are actually starting to grow on me. Supposedly those buildings are all about texture. The Architects used the same stone in at least 3 different ways.
The IBX building is my least fav. on the skyline. It looks like it belongs in Dallas or Houston IMHO.:P

phillyskyline
Jan 24, 2007, 4:57 AM
I always felt the Commerce twins could use some neon lights to highlight it's edges....

Eigenwelt
Jan 24, 2007, 5:13 AM
Does anyone know why they chose not to incorporate retail space along the sides of the Murnao parking garage? That would definitely have given the neighborhood a shot in the arm and possibly lowered the monthly maintenance charges. I really hope they change their mind. The life of a city, after all, is connected directly to its street life, and this part of Philadelphia definitely needs more of it. There's a also a constant stream of people into the area until 10PM because of Trader's Joes. Retailers would jump at the chance to get some of that traffic. Thoughts?

I don't know why any developer ever leaves out ground floor retail. It's one of the easiest things to do to integrate a building into the city fabric. If the revamp of the zoning code does anything at all, I pray they either find a way to encourage, or outright mandate ground floor retail.

relnahe
Jan 24, 2007, 5:36 AM
I don't know why any developer ever leaves out ground floor retail.

Well the front of the building will have retail. Not the garage side. Why? You can thank the LS residents for that. The developer wanted it but the residents didn't. Retail appparently causes bad things and people to come into the area. I guess the LS community thinks its still the 1960's.

sjones
Jan 25, 2007, 5:29 PM
I'm really torn. If I had a few million to spend...I'm not sure if I'd want to live in this building for it's stand out design (I think it's going to be an iconic building just for it's shape)...the RATR because of the luxury and access to hotel amenities or 10 Rittenhouse for it's superior location.

I wouldn't know which one to pick!

THe location of RARC is much better but the Murano looks better and costs less. I also think you will get better views from the Murano since it's on the city's edge while the RARC is kind of hemmed in on three sides unless you are on the top floors.

Lecom
Jan 25, 2007, 11:12 PM
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9686/pict0076muranoucjan07to9ze.jpg

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5818/pict0062muranoucjan07to4qi.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7181/pict0065muranoucjan07re6fj.jpg

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1248/pict0068muranoucjan07wo4ns.jpg

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/2396/pict0069muranoucjan07wo8ym.jpg

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8930/pict0072muranoucjan07fa2fi.jpg

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/7060/pict0080muranoucjan07ba9is.jpg

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/6585/pict0086muranoucjan07wo5qy.jpg

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/479/pict0083muranoucjan07si2nv.jpg

Londonee
Jan 28, 2007, 6:00 PM
I too have wondered how this building will fit in next to the much larger Commerce Square Buildings. I would hesitate to guess that it is 1/3 the width of CS and it is almost 100 feet shorter. It would be a shame for such a beautiful building to be overlooked as a small toothpick on the skyline because of its location.

bryson662001
Jan 28, 2007, 6:50 PM
I too have wondered how this building will fit in next to the much larger Commerce Square Buildings. I would hesitate to guess that it is 1/3 the width of CS and it is almost 100 feet shorter. It would be a shame for such a beautiful building to be overlooked as a small toothpick on the skyline because of its location.Obviously it is not going to dominate the skyline however It should be pretty conspicuous because there is nothing tall for a couple of blocks to the west of it. Also it hugs the street line for it's full height while Commerce Sq is set back so Murano is even visable for several blocks when viewed from the east.

Eigenwelt
Jan 28, 2007, 8:27 PM
Given it's location it will be very visable from the north, west, and south. The only views where it will be hidden are from the east.

While it won't be dominating, it will have a decent presence from the north and south. But I think where it will shine in any of the westerly post card views. The Spring Garden bridge, the plateau, 30th st. Station, the South St. bridge, etc... from these locations the Murano will not only be completely visable but a focus with it curving glass facade.

IMO, this is a case of design matching location almost perfectly.

williamphilapa
Jan 28, 2007, 10:26 PM
THe location of RARC is much better but the Murano looks better and costs less. I also think you will get better views from the Murano since it's on the city's edge while the RARC is kind of hemmed in on three sides unless you are on the top floors.


Yup, I think the SouthEast will have the best view IMO :yes:

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/804/southeastviewmuranositewq0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
from the murano website

CondoGuru
Jan 29, 2007, 4:41 PM
THe location of RARC is much better but the Murano looks better and costs less. I also think you will get better views from the Murano since it's on the city's edge while the RARC is kind of hemmed in on three sides unless you are on the top floors.

I would tend to disagree with that assertion regarding location, depending on the type of residents we're talking about. I agree that the Ritz is a great location for hotel guests, but certainly not for full-time residents. You are gridlocked in at that site...did any of you even attempt to drive down Broad St. when Prince Charles was here? It was a joke. If you visit from out of town and are shuttled to the Ritz to and from the airport and are on foot once you're here, fine, great location. But if you live in this city full-time like most of us do, and you commute to work by car or rail, Murano is a superior location for its proximity to the freeways and train stations. And, you are still within walking distance of Rittenhouse Square, which is undisputedly the most prime real estate in Philadelphia. If I could afford either of them, my money would be on Murano.

16520Man
Jan 29, 2007, 9:15 PM
Here's a poorly photographed update from today, January 29:

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m233/kvoigtiv/01-29-0701.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m233/kvoigtiv/01-29-0702.jpg

pentopaper50
Jan 29, 2007, 11:57 PM
After the sixth floor is done, nearly every floor is identical until they reach the top-most floors. The sales person told me that they'll be finishing one floor every four days, with the entire building topping out in mid-summer 2007. He also said they're entertaining offers to combine units to create three-bedroom/three baths on lower floors, provided the floors haven't been poured yet. Lastly, he expects them to glass the first few floors by late February 2007.

So exciting...

phillyscooter
Jan 30, 2007, 3:34 AM
Hey, I noticed that article about River City and the 'loan'...if/when RC is built, what happens to the North views from Murano....could get a little slim? SE is looking like a better choice!

omp835
Jan 30, 2007, 9:55 PM
Hey, I noticed that article about River City and the 'loan'...if/when RC is built, what happens to the North views from Murano....could get a little slim? SE is looking like a better choice!
until they build something across the street:(

LostInTheZone
Jan 30, 2007, 10:18 PM
Well the front of the building will have retail. Not the garage side. Why? You can thank the LS residents for that. The developer wanted it but the residents didn't. Retail appparently causes bad things and people to come into the area. I guess the LS community thinks its still the 1960's.

that's how I remember it. So instead, they get a blank wall where homeless people will congregate. Careful what you wish for NIMBYS :)

sjones
Jan 31, 2007, 7:03 PM
After the sixth floor is done, nearly every floor is identical until they reach the top-most floors. The sales person told me that they'll be finishing one floor every four days, with the entire building topping out in mid-summer 2007. He also said they're entertaining offers to combine units to create three-bedroom/three baths on lower floors, provided the floors haven't been poured yet. Lastly, he expects them to glass the first few floors by late February 2007.

So exciting...

That sounds very aggressive. I thought it would take a lot longer to top out the building.

bellabeagle
Feb 3, 2007, 5:44 PM
If the cold weather persists that will slow them down a bit

CondoGuru
Feb 4, 2007, 8:53 PM
cold weather won't slow them down...but rain and snow will. Let's hope that chubby little groundhog is right about an early spring! lol

Lecom
Feb 6, 2007, 3:38 AM
Hey, I noticed that article about River City and the 'loan'...if/when RC is built, what happens to the North views from Murano....could get a little slim? SE is looking like a better choice!
Well that's what you get for living in a city.

phillyscooter
Feb 6, 2007, 5:06 AM
I was just wondering if the buyers disclosure would have to take into account view obstruction, thats all....yes, if you live in a city, you can have a view vanish quickly....the SE views would at least have the width of Market street to provide a 'view corridor'....kind of like my view of center city and cc, leaning out my front window and looking around the telephone pole:banana:

theWatusi
Feb 6, 2007, 5:28 AM
I was just wondering if the buyers disclosure would have to take into account view obstruction, thats all

The answer is no. PA property disclosure law state that sellers must disclose all known defects of a property along with easments, encomberences, ect.

While it would suck if you just paid that much for a condo with a killer view and the sales person did not tell you about that approved and ready to go 1000 foot high brick wall going up across the street, its TS for you. As far as the law is concerned that is not a physical defect that must be dislosed.

Caveat Emptor -- Its on the buyer to find out what is going on.

Austinlee
Feb 6, 2007, 9:20 AM
^Hey mr Watusi: Don't be bashing my proposed 1,000 ft high brick wall that I plan on building next to the Murano. It's nimbys like you that make me sick to my stomach.

theWatusi
Feb 6, 2007, 2:41 PM
^Hey mr Watusi: Don't be bashing my proposed 1,000 ft high brick wall that I plan on building next to the Murano. It's nimbys like you that make me sick to my stomach.

I think you misunderstood. I said its TS for everyone else that your wall is going up.

Infact why not make it avacodo green dryvit? :D

McBane
Feb 6, 2007, 3:39 PM
I think PA Pride was joking...

I never understood this whole blocking views thing. First, yes, you live in the city, get over it. But second, if a new building is going in front of your window isn't that just another tower you get to see. I mean don't people pay a premium for views of the city?

Take the St. James for example...which views do you think are the more coveted? Is it the southern exposure which looks onto rowhomes, stadiums and the Walt Whitman or the view to the west with all the towers of Ritt Sq. and Market East?

That said, if I lived in the Murano, I would rather have someone build a tower on the south side of Market St. From the street, duh, I'd rather have nice buildings than porn shops. But even from the window, I'd prefer a nice tower. What would it block? Views of rowhomes?

The only 2 instances when I can sympathize is 1) if a tower is exceedingly ugly and bulky and 2) if the tower is SO close that it blocks your entire window. The only instance that I see this is with those 2 towers in Rittenhouse Sq (the Dorchester and its neighbor). But it does happen in NYC all the time.

donybrx
Feb 6, 2007, 4:31 PM
Tricky stuff. If I'm going to pay a premium to be on a high floor so as to get a great view, I'll go out of my way to assess the likelihood that some or all of that view might be somewhat or seriously obstructed; otherwise I'm paying a premium in order to spend more time in an elevator. For-get it! :)

Murano buyers are getting what they see right now; there's some risk of viewus interruptus in the future. In the meantime the sleek curvature and height will give Murano-ites a lot of pleasure in the existing views.

I'd have a hard time deciding which building and which exposure I'd buy into....like in the example of the St. James. I've been staying at the Loew's on my Phillly trips, making it my mission to stay on a high floor on each of the four corners; so far, I've been on 23 & 24 on the northeast corner (only Aramark in the way) and 23 on the northwest corner toward City Hall & CC (wow); this trip I'll be on the southwest corner so I'll see CC, city hall, etc. and the Delaware, airport, etc. to the south.....hope the night sky is clear! Point is every orientation has something great; hard to give one up for the other were I to buy a unit....I'd probably go to the edge of CC unless I could afford to be on a square of park..high floor...

There isn't much to spoil the view from the Loew's upper floors rright now.

My advice... buy high......meantime the Murano is movin' along jes fine....dramatic addition to the joint....

CondoGuru
Feb 6, 2007, 9:37 PM
Well that's what you get for living in a city.

Agreed. Who moves to a major city and expects to never have their views obstructed? If that's the expectation, move to Omaha! But I seriously doubt these people will have anything to worry about for an awfully long time. It takes nearly a decade to get one highrise up from the very early planning phase until completion, much less over ten of them, with all the complexities involved in the R/C proposal. I don't see that happening for a long time, if ever.

pentopaper50
Feb 12, 2007, 6:04 AM
Market West could be the ideal place for a high-end retail complex -- think Neiman Marcus, Saks, Bergdorf, etc. With the Murano, Ritz, Comcast Tower, Rittenhouse towers, etc., all moving into the area, there will be an influx of new consumers with disposal income who won't want to trek out to NJ or King of Prussia. Also, it strikes me as odd that there are no mainstream movie theaters in the West side of Center City (excluding the one at Penn).

k2wilde
Feb 12, 2007, 8:38 AM
About these views,

1)to me it would seem that the northern views would have the best future viewing area for distance from obstruction as the width of the Parking Garage area and JFK Blvd. will set it further apart from it's River City neighbors than any present and future buildings. However, the "view corridor" that phillyscooter mentions is mainly lost.

QUOTE - McBane"Take the St. James for example...which views do you think are the more coveted? Is it the southern exposure which looks onto rowhomes, stadiums and the Walt Whitman or the view to the west with all the towers of Ritt Sq. and Market East?"

2)As I have checked in a few buildings for prices, city views are not the premium if there is a river view available. At the St. James, all Delaware views command top rentals ( This is from the agent onsite last year ). Even on the southeast corner overlooking the mechanical units atop the midrise next door were not discounted and still cost more than the city views, because the Del. river was in sight. Surprised the heck out of me.
Like I said, this was last year (10months) and maybe prices have changed.

I don't know the prices for the Murano, but I'd expect the NNW views to cost the most, especially with Schuykill views.

Cheers, Rob

LostInTheZone
Feb 12, 2007, 9:14 PM
^the view over South Philly is still cool, especially at night. It's so dense, from above the streets look like channels of light running though cracks. It's hard to get a good skyline view from within the skyline. From 15 or 20 stories up, just about everything looks good.

russbaseball
Feb 14, 2007, 8:34 PM
some shots from today

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n72/russbaseball/100_2555.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n72/russbaseball/100_2554.jpg

russbaseball
Feb 14, 2007, 8:41 PM
ok so more shots from today :) enjoy

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n72/russbaseball/100_2545.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n72/russbaseball/100_2551.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n72/russbaseball/100_2549.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n72/russbaseball/100_2546.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n72/russbaseball/100_2543.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n72/russbaseball/100_2542.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n72/russbaseball/100_2537.jpg

PhillyRising
Feb 14, 2007, 8:55 PM
About these views,

2)As I have checked in a few buildings for prices, city views are not the premium if there is a river view available. At the St. James, all Delaware views command top rentals ( This is from the agent onsite last year ). Even on the southeast corner overlooking the mechanical units atop the midrise next door were not discounted and still cost more than the city views, because the Del. river was in sight. Surprised the heck out of me.
Like I said, this was last year (10months) and maybe prices have changed.

I don't know the prices for the Murano, but I'd expect the NNW views to cost the most, especially with Schuykill views.

Cheers, Rob

Wow...that's pretty odd to me. I would covet the southwest corner at the St James to get a Center City/South Philly view and a southern exposure to get the natural sunlight in my unit.

Why having a view of the river is top dollar, when all you are looking at is Camden is beyond me.

phillyskyline
Feb 14, 2007, 8:56 PM
I'm luvin the curves on this building - it might be Philly's sexiest building. thanx for the update...

James2390
Feb 14, 2007, 9:27 PM
That looks perfect in that location.

Philly's really got it goin' on!

Pennsgrant
Feb 15, 2007, 12:01 AM
some shots from today

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n72/russbaseball/100_2555.jpg

Thanks for the update russ. Great shots

7 down 36 to go. This one is going to be enjoyable to watch on my commute into the city from 95 south over the Girard Point bridge.

Swinefeld
Feb 15, 2007, 1:01 AM
Nice pics, Russ. Great view from 2000 Market.

bryson662001
Feb 15, 2007, 3:43 AM
Wow...that's pretty odd to me. I would covet the southwest corner at the St James to get a Center City/South Philly view and a southern exposure to get the natural sunlight in my unit.

Why having a view of the river is top dollar, when all you are looking at is Camden is beyond me.

While my building doesn't take the view into consideration for pricing (except higher floors are a little more) I can tell you that given a choice, almost everyone prefers the southern exposure facing the sun......although the north view to Market St is actually more spectacular IMO because of the newer, taller buildings . I wanted north and couldn't get it and folks think I'm crazy. Go figure.

Aggie-t
Feb 16, 2007, 12:45 AM
Great pictures "russball" Thanks

rdm
Feb 16, 2007, 2:24 AM
this is a really sexy building in person :-P i drove past it and didn't realize that the street side was curved and not flat.

Swinefeld
Feb 18, 2007, 10:03 PM
The view looking north from 21st and Chestnut.
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e388/Swinefeld/New%20Constructon/muranoFeb001.jpg

Murano is now visible from the SRT.
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e388/Swinefeld/New%20Constructon/MuranoFeb002.jpg

CondoGuru
Feb 21, 2007, 4:57 PM
I would prefer the southern exposure 9 out of 10 times just because of the sunlight factor. But considering the fact that the building is all glass, I don't think anyone is going to be in the dark there. For me, it's the south, but the north views from that building are definitely unique with the museum and boathouse row. I was looking at 1BRs when I went in there over a year ago, and I honestly don't remember if there was a difference in pricing from north vs. south. I think the price was higher for the unit I liked because it was their largest 1BR, not just because it was facing north. Anybody know?

bryson662001
Feb 22, 2007, 6:53 AM
I would prefer the southern exposure 9 out of 10 times just because of the sunlight factor.

Before we got our new solar tinted windows a few years ago the sun was absolutly blinding.....particularly in winter when it is low in the sky. Even with the tinted glass it is brighter then I like on a sunny winter day. We all need some kind of window covering. In the summer the sun is overhead so it doesn't matter much where you are.

RadHaz75
Feb 22, 2007, 3:17 PM
Before we got our new solar tinted windows a few years ago the sun was absolutly blinding.....particularly in winter when it is low in the sky. Even with the tinted glass it is brighter then I like on a sunny winter day. We all need some kind of window covering. In the summer the sun is overhead so it doesn't matter much where you are.

:yes: I am in complete agreement. I used to live in the east building of Park Towne Place facing south over Vine Street. The sun was awful, even in the summer. However in the winter, it would blast right through the blinds and heat my apt to a million degrees (give or take a few). When I moved, I specifically asked the leasing agent for an apartment facing north (and I still get enough light). But I guess it's the price you pay for such an awesome view.

pentopaper50
Feb 23, 2007, 3:43 AM
Now that the 7th floor is up, we can finally appreciate Murano's curves facing north. The north side is flat only up to the 6th floor because of the garage. Also, the Murano is almost up to roof-level with Trader Joe's and is actually much taller than I thought. The first 8 floors of Murano should match the 8 floors of Trader Joe's, even with its loft cielings.

k2wilde
Feb 24, 2007, 8:51 AM
==== Originally Posted by PhillyNation
Wow...that's pretty odd to me. I would covet the southwest corner at the St James to get a Center City/South Philly view and a southern exposure to get the natural sunlight in my unit.=====

Why having a view of the river is top dollar, when all you are looking at is Camden is beyond me.
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I didn't understand either, and I couldn't get an exact answer that I wanted. She ( the agent at the St. James ) told myself and my Dad's girlfriend ( my Dad is scared of heights so he didn't go up) only that the river views were the highest priced, and that a view overlooking another buildings mechanical structures on top of said building would not have a lower price because of said river view. - ( please excuse my " of said" I guess it's my phrase of the day Hah)

Thanks all for the photos everyone.

Cheers, Rob

bryson662001
Feb 25, 2007, 2:50 AM
From Saturday

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k50/bryson662001/597.jpg

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k50/bryson662001/599.jpg

Swinefeld
Feb 25, 2007, 8:54 PM
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e388/Swinefeld/New%20Constructon/Murano20thMarket.jpg

russbaseball
Feb 25, 2007, 9:11 PM
nice photo.. i havent noticed the elevator untill that shot..

sciguy0504
Feb 26, 2007, 7:17 PM
Beautiful. Murano will do much for the area.

sjones
Mar 1, 2007, 4:32 PM
All you have to do is look at the weekly Murano ads to find out how much progress is being made. Its a neat marketing idea to show what floor has been reached in each new ad. Cant wait for this thing to be visable from I-76.

russbaseball
Mar 1, 2007, 5:15 PM
looks like its picking up. thre up to the 9th floor now.

giamomj
Mar 1, 2007, 6:57 PM
Yes - Murano will do something great for that section of Market St. It'll be the nicest residential high-rise in that part of the city - unless Mandeville gets built (hope so).

Gia

:notacrook:

Lecom
Mar 1, 2007, 9:50 PM
Something was ablaze right aroud where Murano is just half a minute ago. Saw it from a couple of miles away in North Philly.

H-Ville Man
Mar 2, 2007, 2:54 AM
Man I have to say, this thing is slick. When this is done it's going to look awesome. The curve looks fansastic and the building is a nice contrast to it's neighbor's east/west.

bryson662001
Mar 2, 2007, 3:06 AM
Something was ablaze right aroud where Murano is just half a minute ago. Saw it from a couple of miles away in North Philly.

Don't worry.....Murano is across the street from a fire house.

PhillyRising
Mar 2, 2007, 4:55 AM
Something was ablaze right aroud where Murano is just half a minute ago. Saw it from a couple of miles away in North Philly.

Hopefully...it was Milton Street's mayoral campaign going up in flames.

sciguy0504
Mar 2, 2007, 8:27 PM
Hopefully...it was Milton Street's mayoral campaign going up in flames.

No! Not Milton! ;)

Apparently, there was another underground fire in Center City the other day. It burned through some fiber optics used by AT&T and knocked out Sovereign Bank's banking system. :hell: Maybe that's what was seen?

russbaseball
Mar 5, 2007, 6:20 PM
up to the 10th :)

phillyskyline
Mar 5, 2007, 8:05 PM
Their finally picking up the pace!!! Hopefully Ritz will soon start to rise also...

Swinefeld
Mar 6, 2007, 1:39 AM
Sunday, March 4th.
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e388/Swinefeld/New%20Constructon/MuranoMarch.jpg

looper121
Mar 6, 2007, 3:12 AM
up to the 10th :)

I count 8.:???: Am I missing something?

phillyskyline
Mar 6, 2007, 3:30 AM
Yea, I'm seeing 8 also.... Swiney thanx for the pic.

Dougall5505
Mar 6, 2007, 3:42 AM
looks like the core is probably at the tenth floor i think thats what he meant

bryson662001
Mar 6, 2007, 4:29 AM
I count 8.:???: Am I missing something?

Irrational exuberance?