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Spoolmak
Jun 15, 2010, 1:52 AM
maybe (hopefully) they are sketching up a new render.

officedweller
Jun 15, 2010, 7:23 PM
E-mail receoived today:

Hello.
You are receiving this email because you have previously indicated that you would like to receive updates on planning and development in the Northeast False Creek area of Vancouver, BC.

The attached PDF document contains a Notice of Rezoning Application and Public Open House for 777 Pacific Blvd. (BC Place).
For more information regarding 777 Pacific Blvd. please visit: http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/777pacificblvd/index.htm. Or contact Dwayne Drobot, Rezoning Planner, at: 604.871.6738 (email: dwayne.drobot@vancouver.ca).

For more information about the Northeast False Creek High Level Review Planning Process, please visit: www.vancouver.ca/nefc. Or contact Paula Huber, Project Planner, at: 604.871.6013 (email: paula.huber@vancouver.ca).

The website says "Drawings coming soon".

http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/777pacificblvd/index.htm

jlousa
Jun 16, 2010, 12:42 AM
The info that has been placed out very high level and not very detailed.

Here are the links to the data that has now been made public, so I can share. Not too much to see though, note that they are calling for ~1200 parking spots, not sure how many bicycle spots there will be but probably less then that. :tup:

Context Plan
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/777pacificblvd/documents/context.pdf

Streetscape
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/777pacificblvd/documents/streetscape.pdf

Elevations
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/777pacificblvd/documents/elevations.pdf

Traffic
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/777pacificblvd/documents/traffic.pdf

mr.x
Jun 16, 2010, 4:25 AM
Take a look at the interior webcam. Is it just me or has a vast section of the lower bowl seats on the north side been removed? In addition, if you zoom in, it looks like all of the lower bowl seats are in the process of being removed.


*waiting for a go ahead to give a big "YAY!*

Prometheus
Jun 16, 2010, 5:26 AM
Take a look at the interior webcam. Is it just me or has a vast section of the lower bowl seats on the north side been removed? In addition, if you zoom in, it looks like all of the lower bowl seats are in the process of being removed.

I concur. I think those seats are finally being put out to pasture.

Other than the new roof, nothing will freshen up the interior more than some brand new seats (of a different colour, I hope).

officedweller
Jun 16, 2010, 8:52 AM
Thanks - interesting that the Smithe street extension will be a cul-de-sac accessed from Pacific Blvd.

Also interesting that the "Colours" info posted by JLousa in the Downtown Vancouver thread shows a two way underground parkade entrance at the north/west end of the cul-de-sac in what would otherwise be the street RoW. There looks like there is enough space to the side, however, for Smithe to link up to the north/west (i.e. one lane north/westbound).

It does also say, however, that there will be a one-way back-door service road between the Stadium and the Casino - effectively recreating Terry Fox Way closer to the stadium.

GeeCee
Jun 16, 2010, 8:53 AM
PAVCO still hasn't replied to my email :( But I did link them to this thread.. :)

hollywoodnorth
Jun 19, 2010, 1:38 AM
the steel rig going up is just massive looking at it from my place in citygate!

http://www.bcplacestadium.com/index.php/construction.html#webcam

officedweller
Jun 22, 2010, 4:43 AM
Yeah, it's well above the rim of the stadium and should give a good indication of the final height of the roof (i.e. the lowpoint in the arc of the cables).

Overground
Jun 22, 2010, 5:47 PM
Going back to the seats. If you zoom in with the live webcam you can see where they've removed seats that they've just piled them on top of some the remaining bolted seats. Now if they were going to install new seats at some point then why save those seats, why not chuck them out?

Perhaps they will just leave them there for the time being as there is no rush to remove them yet. Or maybe they will be recycled to a community that needs them. It's bugging me though that we haven't read anything on the seat plan.

PaperTiger
Jun 22, 2010, 6:38 PM
I hope they change the seats, the black they have at Tempire Stadium looks really good. while they are at it they could reduce the toalt capacity by a couple of thousand to give each seat more room. I think a 57-58,000 capacity stadium would serve the city just as well as a 60,000 capacity stadium would.

I don't think they will though. If you will recall the reno has two phases the first was $65 million for interior improvements which is now complete. the second is the $468 million or what ever for the roof and exterior.

officedweller
Jun 22, 2010, 6:45 PM
FYI -

Structural engineer friend of mine said that the first delivery to the site of the 120ft(?) steel masts for the roof was made last night at 3:00 am - they had to come in on extra long tractor-trailors (9 axles).

officedweller
Jun 23, 2010, 9:00 PM
I think I might see a mast on the far right of the interior webcam - that is, if they have a square cross-section. There seems to be some form of holder or saddle for them - maybe to weld pieces together?

SFUVancouver
Jun 24, 2010, 6:53 AM
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/116/p1200635.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, June 23rd, 2010.

sacrifice333
Jun 25, 2010, 5:48 PM
Hopefully the surrounding hotel/casino development gets a little more vision infused into it like Marina Bay Sands (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1289194/Marina-Bay-Sands-resort-opens-Singapore.html) in Singapore.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/06/24/article-1289194-0A2A47F3000005DC-515_964x479.jpg Photo C EPA

mr.x
Jun 25, 2010, 8:04 PM
THAT'S IN SINGAPORE?!!!! O_O wow. I'm going there in March, can't wait!

Pinion
Jun 25, 2010, 8:55 PM
Looks cool but might want to avoid staying there... (see reviews)

http://maps.google.com/maps/place?rlz=1C1CHNR_enUS321US321&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=Marina+Sands&fb=1&gl=us&hq=Marina+Sands&cid=1829690345527563030&dtab=2&ei=cf8kTIS1PIH88Abl1aHWDw&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBwQqgUwAA

sacrifice333
Jun 25, 2010, 11:16 PM
^as is the case with everything new. Though I think with this place you can just pay $16 to hang out for the day at the pool. (That's what TS says anyways. (http://www.tripstyler.com/2010/fun-friday-travel-stories/)) Might be worth it whether the rest of the place is ready or not.

mr.x
Jun 26, 2010, 7:09 AM
These attractions often take a few months to get all the kinks worked out. For instance, Disneyland HK when it first opened had many issues....actually, a even better example: the original Disneyland when it opened in the 50s had HUGE issues on opening day.

Singapore also recently opened a Universal Studios, they are also still trying to resolve some opening problems.

Hourglass
Jun 26, 2010, 3:28 PM
These attractions often take a few months to get all the kinks worked out. For instance, Disneyland HK when it first opened had many issues....actually, a even better example: the original Disneyland when it opened in the 50s had HUGE issues on opening day.

Singapore also recently opened a Universal Studios, they are also still trying to resolve some opening problems.

Still surprising, nonetheless. Singapore takes its international image very very seriously. When the Singapore Flyer had an electrical failure a couple of years back resulting in people being stuck on the ride for a few hours, the ride was closed down for a couple of months to install additional back-up systems.

EastVanMark
Jun 27, 2010, 8:44 AM
Hopefully the surrounding hotel/casino development gets a little more vision infused into it like Marina Bay Sands (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1289194/Marina-Bay-Sands-resort-opens-Singapore.html) in Singapore.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/06/24/article-1289194-0A2A47F3000005DC-515_964x479.jpg Photo C EPA

That would be great for Vancouver. Unlike the lack of any vision the current ode to boring design that was released months ago

mr.x
Jun 27, 2010, 9:11 AM
That would be great for Vancouver. Unlike the lack of any vision the current ode to boring design that was released months ago

Agreed.

I still think the casino's location should be somewhere along the Creek, very much like Marina Sands being right next to water, perhaps where the Plaza of Nations is. The current site at Terry Fox Way right next to the stadium in a way does limit the design quite a bit:

1) Limited height. It can't be too tall, otherwise it would cast shadows on our expensive new retractable roof.

2) The proposed casino site is awfully small. For it to be a serious attraction, it should take up the entire parking lot at that end of the stadium right up to the Cambie Street Bridge. Of course, not possible with Colours being built.

Size matters.

SpongeG
Jun 27, 2010, 9:26 AM
i don't know about being on the water - thats a waste of water front

people are going to be sitting inside 24 hours a day not even knowing if its night or day outside - it could be in the middle of the crappiest part of town and people will go - just look at the coquitlam casino surrounded by crap and popular as can be

mr.x
Jun 27, 2010, 9:29 AM
^ well, my point still stands...the existing site and proposal are far too small (yet it will still somehow cost close to $500-million to build).

If only we could capture some of Singapore's savyness for our attractions.

Hourglass
Jun 27, 2010, 7:29 PM
^ well, my point still stands...the existing site and proposal are far too small (yet it will still somehow cost close to $500-million to build).

If only we could capture some of Singapore's savyness for our attractions.

You need to add another "0" on the end to get the cost of Marina Bay Sands -- it cost over US$5 billion to build. In that context, $500 million to build the hotel and casino doesn't look so bad.

Bear in mind that Sands is a destination resort and not just a casino, so it makes sense to build it on the water. There's the hotel, several restaurants, the Marina Bay Club, a shopping mall (big surprise in Singapore...), museum, and convention center as well as a permanent show (Lion King).

EastVanMark
Jun 27, 2010, 10:25 PM
i don't know about being on the water - thats a waste of water front

people are going to be sitting inside 24 hours a day not even knowing if its night or day outside - it could be in the middle of the crappiest part of town and people will go - just look at the coquitlam casino surrounded by crap and popular as can be

The whole development wouldn't be just a casino. The hotels, restaurants, bars, theatres, and convention facilities would be a draw unto themselves and having them along the waterfront would be great additions that would go a long way to drawing people there. Plus, with a project of this size, it would be easy to extract some money from the development towards making the seawall in that area even better than what it currently is.

Prometheus
Jun 27, 2010, 11:15 PM
The whole development wouldn't be just a casino. The hotels, restaurants, bars, theatres, and convention facilities would be a draw unto themselves and having them along the waterfront would be great additions that would go a long way to drawing people there. Plus, with a project of this size, it would be easy to extract some money from the development towards making the seawall in that area even better than what it currently is.

Absolutely.

The Plaza of Nations site is a much more natural location for a large, high-end hotel/casino/entertainment complex than the currently proposed site, which is small and cramped and limiting. Built properly with an ambitious vision, the larger waterfront location would be a highly desirable, picturesque destination for both local and international guests. And with its seawall-side cafes, restuarant patios, retail shops and theatres, it would bring much-needed life, energy and entertainment to the False Creek waterfront.

SpongeG
Jun 28, 2010, 4:49 AM
if it truly becomes all those things it will be great butt if its just a casino its a big waste

richmond has great waterfront and the millions of times i've been there no one is walking along the waterfront boardwalk

sacrifice333
Jun 28, 2010, 8:58 PM
richmond has great waterfront and the millions of times i've been there no one is walking along the waterfront boardwalk

That's cause it's Richmond... everyone's inside the casino! :notacrook:

SFUVancouver
Jul 1, 2010, 6:31 AM
BC Place from SEFC
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7638/bcplacefromsefcjune3020.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, June 30th, 2010.

BC Place from Robson Street
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3306/bcplacefromrobsonjune30.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, June 30th, 2010.

BC Place and its neighbours from the Vancouver Lookout.
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9185/bcplacezoomoutjune30201.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, June 30th, 2010.

BC Place with half my zoom.
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/491/bcplacejune302010p12007.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, June 30th, 2010.

Full zoom!
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/8766/bcplacezoomjune302010p1.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, June 30th, 2010.

Spork
Jul 1, 2010, 6:33 AM
Seeing those shots makes me realize how the only thing that that stadium had going for it (visually, on the outside) was that marshmallow! I never realized how ugly the shell really is.

Prometheus
Jul 1, 2010, 8:22 AM
Are you trying to tell me that they never washed those damned windows for the Olympics?

hollywoodnorth
Jul 2, 2010, 2:19 PM
a very cool video from BCTV back in the day on the BC Place opening and construction

http://www.bcplacestadium.com/index.php/history.html

hollywoodnorth
Jul 4, 2010, 9:56 AM
the super big ass crane is now on site and at full height!

racc
Jul 4, 2010, 6:26 PM
Absolutely.

The Plaza of Nations site is a much more natural location for a large, high-end hotel/casino/entertainment complex than the currently proposed site, which is small and cramped and limiting. Built properly with an ambitious vision, the larger waterfront location would be a highly desirable, picturesque destination for both local and international guests. And with its seawall-side cafes, restuarant patios, retail shops and theatres, it would bring much-needed life, energy and entertainment to the False Creek waterfront.

Don't forget the whole point of this is to pay for the new roof on BC Place. While restaurants and bars on the water are a great idea, they would be very successful without a casino attached to them. Same with a hotel. It is kinda silly to have casinos and theatres by the water as the people using them are doing something else besides enjoying the view.

GeeCee
Jul 5, 2010, 9:03 PM
Finally heard back from my email regarding the seats and the brown glass dated June 17..

Hi Curtis, thank you for your interest in BC Place.

Up to 5000 seats in the lower seating level (known as Level 2) will be replaced. The replacement seats will be a combination of new retractable seats, and new, premium club seating. These club seats will be high-quality and padded for your comfort. The overall seating capacity will remain the same.

The exterior glass is currently under review, and a decision on this part of the stadium will be made in the coming months.

In the meantime, attached is our latest Community Newsletter for an update on construction at the stadium. In the near future we will be adding more instant construction updates to our website, so we encourage you to visit us at www.bcplace.com for additional information and construction webcam pictures.

Thank you again for your interest, on behalf of the team at BC Place.

Duncan
Duncan Blomfield

Marketing and Communications Manager
BC Place

Overground
Jul 5, 2010, 9:37 PM
Thanks! Finally some news.

Well, this is a disappointment. The amount of money being spent on refurbing the whole stadium, even though most of that is roof related, and they couldn't fix a cosmetic/comfort issue like seating. The cost isn't that much in the scheme of things. I wonder if the 5k new ones will be the same colour.

mr.x
Jul 6, 2010, 12:44 AM
Quite disappointed about both the seating and the exterior glass facade.

Hed Kandi
Jul 6, 2010, 11:28 AM
Quite disappointed about both the seating and the exterior glass facade.

If that glass is not replaced, I will start a new thread in the architecture forum entitled 'Failed Renovations' and BC Place will be the first example.

WarrenC12
Jul 6, 2010, 1:35 PM
If that glass is not replaced, I will start a new thread in the architecture forum entitled 'Failed Renovations' and BC Place will be the first example.

That will show them! :rolleyes:

dtrain
Jul 6, 2010, 3:29 PM
Interesting, I made a similar inquiry regarding seats and exterior glass and got this response yesterday:
"We are replacing several thousand seats within mostly the lower bowl. These will be in different areas throughout including new upgraded quality seats. The seating capacity will be slightly lower but still in the 55,000 range. As for the glazing on the exterior. Several portions of it are being replaced and an overall replacement plan is in the review stage."

- conflicting responses on the seating capacity.

I also responded about the glass, stating that new glass would make the stadium look 100% better.

invisibleairwaves
Jul 6, 2010, 4:18 PM
This might just be me, but if the acoustics in the stadium were substantially improved, I couldn't care less about the old seats or the glass. Of course, I seriously doubt that'll happen too.

mr.x
Jul 6, 2010, 8:20 PM
A $450-million project, that included a $15-million temporary stadium for one year...yet we can't afford new permanent stadium seats and new glass?

Overground
Jul 6, 2010, 9:02 PM
^Exactly. Not surprised though, That's how things are done here, half-assed. Even the temp stadium has more new seats(12k?). If those numbers I found are correct for new stadia seating, then 30k Ferco seats for $2m at that German Bundesliga stadium is a drop in the bucket.

sacrifice333
Jul 6, 2010, 11:38 PM
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Got this email from the Lions re increased public transit to and from Empire Stadium for Lions games...

Sounds good!

mr.x
Jul 7, 2010, 12:25 AM
^Exactly. Not surprised though, That's how things are done here, half-assed. Even the temp stadium has more new seats(12k?). If those numbers I found are correct for new stadia seating, then 30k Ferco seats for $2m at that German Bundesliga stadium is a drop in the bucket.

It's mind boggling half-assed. It's adds to a long list of things half-assed around in this city.


And considering that the Lions are the main tenant in this temporary stadium, which seems quite overbuilt considering its short usage, they should've contributed significantly to that the $15-million cost.

agrant
Jul 7, 2010, 12:59 AM
My interpretation of half-assed would be if they simply replaced the teflon with another teflon roof. The seats can always be another project down the road. If they do the job, then you have ask why you would want to replace them.

jlousa
Jul 7, 2010, 3:48 AM
:previous: I love your signature :tup:

Anyways just wanted to post some details on the Casino/Hotel proposal

2 hotels: 349 room 4.0+star Signature Hotel, 298 room, 3.5 star Boutique Hotel
1 full service Salon and Spa, 2 exercise gyms
1 Three meal Restaurant with patio-ground level
1 Fine Dining Steakhouse
1 Chinese Restaurant
1 Sushi/Noodle bar
1 Roof top Specialty Restaurant/Lounge
1 Deli
1 Foodcourt/Quick Bites
1 Cabaret/Multi-Purpose Space
1 Skybar
1 Sports bar
2 Centre Bars
Up to 150 tables
- 30 poker tables
- 90-96 table games
- 20 table High limit room
- 4 private high limit gaming salons
Up to 1,500 slots
Off track betting
(Current casino 60 tables/520 slots)

Major Conference facilities including:
15,816 SF Pre-function space
14,819 SF Grand Ballroom
9,810 SF Ballroom
5,163 SF Jr. Ballroom
4,386 SF of Meeting Rooms
2,000 SF Business Center
13,187 SF Roof top atrium style
Pool/Patio flex space
5,317 total SF of street front retail

1,200 Subterranean Parking Spaces (including valet)
(current 620 spaces)

Some newer renders, (I also have floor plans but I won't be posting them at this time)

Smithe St
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p155/jlousa/Smitheview.jpg

Pacific St
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p155/jlousa/Pacificview.jpg

Cambie Bridge
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p155/jlousa/Bridgeview.jpg

Massing Aerials
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p155/jlousa/massingaerials.jpg

TwoFace
Jul 7, 2010, 4:09 AM
Is this the actual proposal, it looks like a computer case, a speaker and a bunch of filing cabinets.:D

ckkelley
Jul 7, 2010, 4:15 AM
^^
Cool news and renders. Thanks jlousa!

nova9
Jul 7, 2010, 4:16 AM
Is this the actual proposal, it looks like a computer case, a speaker and a bunch of filing cabinets.:D

still a step up from the humdrum, boring design they showed at the initial announcement

SpikePhanta
Jul 7, 2010, 4:22 AM
Well hey its an improvement!
It would be interesting if they did something similar to the richmond oval and use pine beetle wood!

Zassk
Jul 7, 2010, 5:07 AM
It would be interesting if they did something similar to the richmond oval and use pine beetle wood!

And, you know, some glass windows....

WarrenC12
Jul 7, 2010, 5:09 AM
It's mind boggling half-assed. It's adds to a long list of things half-assed around in this city.


And considering that the Lions are the main tenant in this temporary stadium, which seems quite overbuilt considering its short usage, they should've contributed significantly to that the $15-million cost.

The Lions had a long term lease with BC Place. I'm sure that lease included Pavco providing some other playing field if BC Place was not available.

The Lions stand to lose a lot of money with a 27k capacity field when they often draw over 30k.

mr.x
Jul 7, 2010, 5:51 AM
It could use a major nightclub, especially with Gossip at the Plaza of Nations next door being demolished in the near future.

MistyMountainHop
Jul 7, 2010, 6:37 AM
It could use a major nightclub, especially with Gossip at the Plaza of Nations next door being demolished in the near future.

It'd be nice to have a theatre as well (like River Rock or Red Robinson).

WarrenC12
Jul 7, 2010, 2:09 PM
It could use a major nightclub, especially with Gossip at the Plaza of Nations next door being demolished in the near future.

I think that is the "Cabaret" portion. Maybe they are talking about something like Gossip or the Rage or whatever it is, that can function as a big nightclub or a venue.

Plus there's a "skybar", I'm sure that's a club too.

cc85
Jul 7, 2010, 6:03 PM
it's a west coast, art-deco inspired computer desk!

dtrain
Jul 7, 2010, 6:10 PM
I don't like the tall tower being right beside the stadium, it blocks the view, they should lower the max. height around the immediate area of the stadium.

officedweller
Jul 7, 2010, 6:43 PM
Nice, thanks for posting.

Much better massing than previsously seen in the initial renders. I thought that there's a view cone that's shorter than the tall tower shown?

Having the tall tower away from the Pacific & Smithe corner gives Concord's "Panaorama/Colours" project some beathing room (it'll be right in front of e casino entrance). Presumably, the "blank faces on the towers are windows (quality of curtain wall unknown).

wrenegade
Jul 7, 2010, 9:05 PM
Big improvement over the last proposal. My guess is all those roofs will either be "green" or have pool/spa/restaurant/patios/bars on them which will help break up the space. I like the massing though I still think there is a lot of room for improvement on the lower portion of the podium.

Joat
Jul 7, 2010, 9:32 PM
There better be a lot of cool lights n stuff.

It'd also be nice if they threw in a good bowling alley in this complex, or somewhere in the new "entertainment district".

Porfiry
Jul 7, 2010, 9:58 PM
BC Place next Vancouver sports palace to get a new name
http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Place+next+Vancouver+sports+palace+name/3247500/story.html

General Motors Place has become Rogers Arena and soon its neighbour, BC Place Stadium, will also have a new name.

By the time it reopens in the fall of 2011 with a new retractable roof, the 60,000-seat facility will have a corporate moniker.

General manager Howard Crosley said Wednesday the process of finding a naming rights sponsor for the stadium is already well underway.

nova9
Jul 7, 2010, 10:00 PM
BC Place next Vancouver sports palace to get a new name
http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Place+next+Vancouver+sports+palace+name/3247500/story.html

Who would you guys want to see as a corporate sponsor? I so far like that we don't have ridiculous companies naming things (corporate names are already bad enough). At least we don't have anything stupid yet like a cleaning agent or something - Vancouver Oxy-Clean stadium!

eduardo88
Jul 7, 2010, 10:07 PM
GM should buy the naming rights so we can keep a GM Place in Vancouver

s211
Jul 7, 2010, 10:56 PM
Who would you guys want to see as a corporate sponsor? I so far like that we don't have ridiculous companies naming things (corporate names are already bad enough). At least we don't have anything stupid yet like a cleaning agent or something - Vancouver Oxy-Clean stadium!

The "Gregor Robertson powered-by-unicorn-farts and cleaned-with-elf-tears shrine" not working for you?

mr.x
Jul 8, 2010, 12:49 AM
I actually wouldn't mind Telus being the sponsor for BC Place....."Telus Stadium at BC Place". "Telus Centre" also works.

Pinion
Jul 8, 2010, 1:44 AM
Gaylord Entertainment Centre is still up for grabs after Nashville dropped it.

Spork
Jul 8, 2010, 4:39 AM
Boston Pizza Place (heh heh heh)? Gotta think Canadian companies here (locally headquartered = better/more likely)

GeeCee
Jul 8, 2010, 5:35 AM
Future Shop Stadium!

nova9
Jul 8, 2010, 6:15 AM
The "Gregor Robertson powered-by-unicorn-farts and cleaned-with-elf-tears shrine" not working for you?

Make than an acronym. :)

jlousa
Jul 8, 2010, 6:23 AM
I believe A&W Canada is local, the A&W Centre aka the onion ring. :P Chubby chicken and teen burgers in the concession stands would definitely be an improvement (although the olympic menu was decent)

SpikePhanta
Jul 8, 2010, 6:50 AM
EA Sports Stadium?

just using the same trend of local companies..

ozonemania
Jul 8, 2010, 6:57 AM
How about.... the Lululemon Bowl.

Overground
Jul 8, 2010, 7:17 AM
Maybe Bell will want to take their sponsorship further with the Caps and have their name on the stadium as well. They're not new at naming rights either as they've had their name on the Canadiens' arena for quite awhile.

Hmm...Bell Place, Bell Stadium?

red-paladin
Jul 8, 2010, 7:28 AM
I believe A&W Canada is local, the A&W Centre aka the onion ring. :P Chubby chicken and teen burgers in the concession stands would definitely be an improvement (although the olympic menu was decent)

You're right.
A&W Canada is a Canadian company that owns the rights to A&W here.
It's independent and not related to the American company. The HQ is in north van, and 'Television advertisements are filmed at the Mission, British Columbia and Abbotsford, British Columbia locations.' according to Wikipedia's page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%26W_%28Canada%29)

MechMike
Jul 8, 2010, 2:05 PM
At least we don't have anything stupid yet like a cleaning agent or something - Vancouver Oxy-Clean stadium!

I would go for an Oxy-Clean stadium, we could of used Billy Mays as an announcer if he was still alive.

Imagine all the headlines you could use too.

WarrenC12
Jul 8, 2010, 2:14 PM
The Keg Steak House?

BC Hydro Power Dome?

Dominos Dome?

Cactus Club House?

GMasterAres
Jul 8, 2010, 4:05 PM
Can't wait to see it done. People always bark about money but it's just money.

twoNeurons
Jul 8, 2010, 6:21 PM
name [Nickname]
Save-On-Field [ The Marketplace ]
Pattison Place [ ??? ]
Fido Bowl [ The Doghouse ]
TeluStadium [ The phone booth? ]
Finning Field [ The Tractoryard? ]
VanCity Place [ The Vault ]
H.Y. Louie Field [ The Drugstore ]

BCPhil
Jul 8, 2010, 6:37 PM
Maybe Bell will want to take their sponsorship further with the Caps and have their name on the stadium as well. They're not new at naming rights either as they've had their name on the Canadiens' arena for quite awhile.

Hmm...Bell Place, Bell Stadium?

Rogers Arena, Bell Stadium... We should just rename Vancouver, East Coast Wannabe. All we need is to rename the lookout to CN mini tower, add a few more Tim Horton's and we're done.

In all honesty I don't think you'll see the name change. I think the NDP would make it a scandal to rename a BC landmark after a company that would probably only pay at the maximum $1.5 million/year. Hardly worth it in my opinion. The bad PR it would cause would not be made up by the money generated.

No money is worth it to change the name of a stadium that hosted Expo and the Olympics and has been visited by the Queen, Prince Charles and Princess Diana, and Pope John Paul II. Unless Bell (or someone else) wants to step forward with $400 million to pay for the new roof in exchanged for the place to be named after them in perpetuity, no thanks.

If there's ever going to be a name change for BC place it will be in 10 years time when it will be renamed Gordon Campbell Stadium (or I know a lot of people would hope for Gordon Campbell Memorial Stadium ;) ).

PaperTiger
Jul 8, 2010, 6:52 PM
There is also Nature's Path Foods, they are the largest organic cereal Company in North America, based in Richmond.

How about the "Granola Bowl"

Has a certain west coast ring to it.

PaperTiger
Jul 8, 2010, 7:00 PM
Rogers Arena, Bell Stadium... We should just rename Vancouver, East Coast Wannabe. All we need is to rename the lookout to CN mini tower, add a few more Tim Horton's and we're done.


It makes sense though, these companies are trying to raise their profiles in a market where they don't have a huge presence. It's the same reason TELUS sponsored the Royal Conservancy's new theatre in Toronto. It's now called The TELUS Centre.

wrenegade
Jul 8, 2010, 7:24 PM
HSBC Place.

Boom. Am I a fuckin' magician or what.

mr.x
Jul 8, 2010, 7:35 PM
HSBC Place.

Boom. Am I a fuckin' magician or what.

WIN. +1. :tup:

hollywoodnorth
Jul 8, 2010, 7:47 PM
Rough numbers would be 60,000 seats by roughly $200 for each seat installed would be $12Million. I have no idea if $200 is an accurate figure but it seems like a good guess.

HSBC Place.

Boom. Am I a fuckin' magician or what.

LOL :) great stuff :)

LeftCoaster
Jul 8, 2010, 7:56 PM
Wow, I really like HSBC place.

The sabres play in HSBC arena, so I think HSBC Place as a stadium name is open.

It sounds great and isn't really too far fetched given their growth aspirations in Canada.

Delirium
Jul 8, 2010, 8:00 PM
big ass crane is on-site now. photo by me
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/oct2gon/IMGP5922-1.jpg

Pinion
Jul 8, 2010, 8:07 PM
Swiss Chalet Chalet?

wrenegade
Jul 8, 2010, 8:10 PM
Wow, I really like HSBC place.

The sabres play in HSBC arena, so I think HSBC Place as a stadium name is open.

It sounds great and isn't really too far fetched given their growth aspirations in Canada.

Vancouver is also HSBC's Canadian HQ. Not many people know that. It would work really well, but I think it's a dream. Far more likely to have Coca-Cola, Molson, Telus or another huge advertiser get the rights. But we can hope.

nova9
Jul 8, 2010, 8:13 PM
Vancouver is also HSBC's Canadian HQ. Not many people know that. It would work really well, but I think it's a dream. Far more likely to have Coca-Cola, Molson, Telus or another huge advertiser get the rights. But we can hope.

Okay, I LIKE Molson Stadium but that will never happen.

Maybe TEKcominco is in a better place to sponsor now as well? Tek-Cominco Stadium doesn't sound too bad.

mr.x
Jul 8, 2010, 8:15 PM
Vancouver is also HSBC's Canadian HQ. Not many people know that. It would work really well, but I think it's a dream. Far more likely to have Coca-Cola, Molson, Telus or another huge advertiser get the rights. But we can hope.

I can only pray and hope that HSBC and Telus don't leave us for Toronto.


Though if HSBC had extra money for naming rights, I would much prefer if they spent it on the fireworks.

officedweller
Jul 8, 2010, 8:19 PM
big ass crane is on-site now. photo by me


Thanks.

You can see the masts being assembled on the interior webcam view. It shouldn't be too long before we see the first ones hoisted to the rim of the stadium.

metroXpress
Jul 8, 2010, 9:21 PM
Though if HSBC had extra money for naming rights, I would much prefer if they spent it on the fireworks.

Agreed, keeping the fireworks going every year.

jsbertram
Jul 8, 2010, 9:27 PM
big ass crane is on-site now. photo by me
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/oct2gon/IMGP5922-1.jpg

I'm a bit jealous of anyone with a penthouse view looking down at this.
(pictures or time-lapse video would be GREAT).

The BC Place interior webcam is already cutting off the upper view of the centre podium, and needs to be tilted up.


I think that is the Mammoet RK8500 that is taller than the rim of BC Place.
(RK8500 crawler main crane; 830 ton capacity; 315 foot boom with around 700 tons counterweight on the carrier)

There is also a Mammoet Liebherr LR1350 there to help assemble the RK8500 and assist the RK8500 crane with lifts.

And I see another 500 ton mobile hydraulic crane (can't remember the model) with full luffing jib for the man basket; and a few 80 ton rough terrain cranes and SPMT modules to move counterweights and masts around.


Quite a bit of crane ballet going on down there as the masts will be lifted in diagonally-opposite pairs and held in place while the initial wires are strung from a mast to the centre podium to the opposite mast.

SFUVancouver
Jul 8, 2010, 11:26 PM
Maybe TEKcominco is in a better place to sponsor now as well? Tek-Cominco Stadium doesn't sound too bad.

Teck-Cominc-Bowl?

SpongeG
Jul 8, 2010, 11:36 PM
I'm a bit jealous of anyone with a penthouse view looking down at this.
(pictures or time-lapse video would be GREAT).

The BC Place interior webcam is already cutting off the upper view of the centre podium, and needs to be tilted up.


I think that is the Mammoet RK8500 that is taller than the rim of BC Place.
(RK8500 crawler main crane; 830 ton capacity; 315 foot boom with around 700 tons counterweight on the carrier)

There is also a Mammoet Liebherr LR1350 there to help assemble the RK8500 and assist the RK8500 crane with lifts.

And I see another 500 ton mobile hydraulic crane (can't remember the model) with full luffing jib for the man basket; and a few 80 ton rough terrain cranes and SPMT modules to move counterweights and masts around.


Quite a bit of crane ballet going on down there as the masts will be lifted in diagonally-opposite pairs and held in place while the initial wires are strung from a mast to the centre podium to the opposite mast.

i know a guy who lives right next to BC place - to the north west i guess and he can see everything going on in there

Denscity
Jul 9, 2010, 12:50 AM
Tek-Cominc-Bowl?

Teck Cominco is now just Teck. How about the Teck No Dome seeing as the roof is no more?

g35
Jul 9, 2010, 12:52 AM
Thanks.

You can see the masts being assembled on the interior webcam view. It shouldn't be too long before we see the first ones hoisted to the rim of the stadium.

Is that what those white things are on the right side of the camera? And what that wheel-shaped apparatus where the seats used to be is for?

EastVanMark
Jul 13, 2010, 9:16 PM
New BC Place 3-D renders are out on Google Earth. Not smart enough to upload the link. Maybe somebody more computer savvy can upload the link.

The new roof is getting ripped by most listeners on Team 1040.