Calgary International Airport II - Page 555

#**11081** Posted **Apr 5, 2023, 2:21 AM**

June and July vs 2019 will be the interesting points of comparison with all the new services. It's gonna be close.

peytol · #**11082** Posted **Apr 5, 2023, 1:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by hehehe

Best of luck to Lynx but WS has YYC cornered. Their new strategy is really starting to show, imagine someone telling you pre pandemic that YYC-LAX would be up to 4x daily not including SNA in a few years time...nuts. At least Lynx isn't expanding too fast.

Does anyone know what percent of Lynx flying is out of YYC? I thought I saw some adds like YUL-YYT, maybe they are trying to spread out a little.

DoubleK · #**11083** Posted **Apr 5, 2023, 6:51 PM**

Has anyone flown Lynx to Vancouver and back? Are they reliable?

Need to fly out next week for an appointment and am wondering if it's worth the risk. The flight is about half what WJ is charging.

MalcolmTucker · #**11084** Posted **Apr 5, 2023, 7:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by DoubleK

Has anyone flown Lynx to Vancouver and back? Are they reliable?

Need to fly out next week for an appointment and am wondering if it's worth the risk. The flight is about half what WJ is charging.

Colleague flew it 3 times last August-September. Was reliable. Seems they focus more on reliability than the Flairs of the world.

DoubleK · #**11085** Posted **Apr 5, 2023, 7:39 PM**

Thanks MT. I have enough margin that if I have to, I can walk to WJ and jump on one of their flights.

hehehe · #**11086** Posted **Apr 13, 2023, 5:06 AM**

Crazy that FCO has already restarted this early.

hollywoodcory · #**11087** Posted **Apr 13, 2023, 10:49 PM**

FCO has pretty strong bookings, I can see it eventually running the entire IATA summer season (late March-early November).

CDG also back today too. Initially 4x weekly, before going daily late May.

In a little over 2 weeks, WS will have up to 5 long haul departures a day.

DoubleK · #**11088** Posted **Apr 18, 2023, 4:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by MalcolmTucker

Colleague flew it 3 times last August-September. Was reliable. Seems they focus more on reliability than the Flairs of the world.

Just did the Vancouver and back Lynx thing.

We were 45 minutes late boarding on the way to Vancouver.

Close to an hour late boarding on the way back to Calgary.

Planes were full on both legs, which is good for Lynx.

There looked to be some issues with carry on baggage in Vancouver last night. The gate agent was trying to make people fit their bags into the slot device they have at the gate, which wasn't going very well.

Zero communications from the gate agents when the boarding time came and went. The poor fellow appeared to be very new and was not wearing a Lynx uniform, looked to be some other type of airport contractor.

Planes are very nice/new, they seem to fly a lot faster than I am used to on WJ/AC 737s, but have no hard data to confirm that.

Wasn't a terrible experience, but if being on time is important for making a connection or being somewhere at a specific time, it's probably best to fly elsewhere.

Does anyone know how long it normally takes to turn a 737 with 160 ish passengers? About an hour to groom the plane, unload and load bags and refuel? I wonder if Lynx is optimistic in their scheduling or if it's just them getting their sea legs...

Nick · #**11089** Posted **Apr 18, 2023, 5:19 PM**

Lynx planes are the same Max 8s as AC/Westjet

peytol · #**11090** Posted **Apr 18, 2023, 10:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by DoubleK

Planes are very nice/new, they seem to fly a lot faster than I am used to on WJ/AC 737s, but have no hard data to confirm that.

Wasn't a terrible experience, but if being on time is important for making a connection or being somewhere at a specific time, it's probably best to fly elsewhere.

Does anyone know how long it normally takes to turn a 737 with 160 ish passengers? About an hour to groom the plane, unload and load bags and refuel? I wonder if Lynx is optimistic in their scheduling or if it's just them getting their sea legs...

Just curious why you think they fly faster? They could very well fly quicker depending what cost index they use vs WJ or AC, but on such a short leg it would be maybe a couple minutes quicker. The head or tailwind component would make more of a difference on any given day.

outoftheice · #**11091** Posted **Apr 19, 2023, 3:05 AM**

Most North American airlines plan 1 hour turns on a 738 while many European carriers plan 45 minute turns. Passenger loads and boarding doors play a big factor but my record is 26 minutes turning an all-economy 738

DoubleK · #**11092** Posted **Apr 19, 2023, 8:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by peytol

Just curious why you think they fly faster? They could very well fly quicker depending what cost index they use vs WJ or AC, but on such a short leg it would be maybe a couple minutes quicker. The head or tailwind component would make more of a difference on any given day.

The pilot said they were able to make up time in the air, which as you point out didn't really make sense on such a short flight. Also this was on the YYC-YVR leg and would normally be into the prevailing winds.

Maybe I haven't been on many Max8's, but it 'felt' faster.

What is 'cost index'?

hollywoodcory · #**11093** Posted **Apr 19, 2023, 9:21 PM**

YYC March 2023 Stats

Domestic: 924,180 +40.5% (YTD: 2,525,762 +54.53%)
Transborder: 273,482 +52.9% (YTD: 722,421 +84.67%)
International: 192,498 +67.9% (YTD: 558,498 +100.93%)

March 2023 Total: 1,390,160 +46.2%
2023 YTD: 3,806,681 +65.24%

Compared to 2019 overall its just slightly below. Domestic / Non-US international were pretty close, but Transborder is still lagging.

This was March 2019 for comparison:

Domestic: 972,155
Transborder: 317,629
International: 194,439
March 2019 total: 1,484,223

peytol · #**11094** Posted **Apr 20, 2023, 10:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by DoubleK

The pilot said they were able to make up time in the air, which as you point out didn't really make sense on such a short flight. Also this was on the YYC-YVR leg and would normally be into the prevailing winds.

Maybe I haven't been on many Max8's, but it 'felt' faster.

What is 'cost index'?

They could have made up time, by having time budgeted for a de ice they didn't use, or a short taxi time vs the average, maybe even some time budgeted for yvr's flow program which is worse than ever that they didn't need. All those minutes add up.

Cost index just takes all your costs for the flight and spits out the most efficient speed to fly. Say if the hourly maintenance rate was high, and fuel was cheap, you would fly quick or vise versa.

Calfan12 · #**11095** Posted **Apr 28, 2023, 3:59 AM**

Looks like Air Canada plans to resume Calgary YYC- Honolulu HNL, Hawaii route 2-3x weekly on the Boeing 737Max 8.

AIR CANADA TO RESUME CALGARY – HONOLULU SERVICE IN NW23
Air Canada in Northern winter 2023/24 season intends to resume Calgary – Honolulu route, last served until April 2022. The seasonal route would see the airline offers 2 weekly flights from 29OCT23, increasing to 3 from 20DEC23.

Boeing 737 MAX 8 aircraft operates this route.

AC529 YYC1820 – 2250HNL 7M8 137
AC528 HNL2350 – 0923+1YYC 7M8 137

https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/230420-achnl

Calfan12 · #**11096** Posted **Apr 28, 2023, 6:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by hollywoodcory

Looks like WS got a better slot pair at NRT. Schedule also updated this weekend too:

WS80 YYC 15:10 - 16:15+1 NRT 357
WS81 NRT 18:15 - 12:15 YYC 146

Also some domestic notes:
YYG increased to 4x weekly and season extended by a few weeks
YXY increased to 4x weekly
YZF also shows split mainline / encore. Has WS run mainline 737s there?

Interesting,with WestJet moving the Tokyo NRT Japan 3x weekly flights✈️ to depart at around 15:10 pm from Calgary YYC ,it will have a very similar departure time as KLM YYC - Amsterdam AMS.

This Spring/Summer 2023,the heavy Boeing WestJet / KLM planes to NRT / AMS will be departing 5 -10 minutes of each other during Sunday, Wednesday & Friday & both (might) use the same Runway for departure too.

It's rare & last this happened was when Hainan Airlines YYC - Beijing PEK 3x weekly flights operated, which departed around 15:10.

hehehe · #**11097** Posted **Apr 28, 2023, 8:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by Calfan12

Interesting,with WestJet moving the Tokyo NRT Japan 3x weekly flights✈️ to depart at around 15:10 pm from Calgary YYC ,it will have a very similar departure time as KLM YYC - Amsterdam AMS.

This Spring/Summer 2023,the heavy Boeing WestJet / KLM planes to NRT / AMS will be departing 5 -10 minutes of each other during Sunday, Wednesday & Friday & both (might) use the same Runway for departure too.

It's rare & last this happened was when Hainan Airlines YYC - Beijing PEK 3x weekly flights operated, which departed around 15:10.

Imagine how busy it'll be in the evenings...

Denscity · #**11098** Posted **Apr 28, 2023, 2:46 PM**

Wow 2 planes leave at a similar time.
That would only be exciting at an airport as small as mine lol.

hollywoodcory · #**11099** Posted **Apr 28, 2023, 5:32 PM**

There is nothing rare about 2 widebodies departing at the same time. The afternoons even have Eurowings Discover, and various AC domestic runs to YYZ/YUL.

People_talking · #**11100** Posted **Apr 28, 2023, 9:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by Denscity

Wow 2 planes leave at a similar time.
That would only be exciting at an airport as small as mine lol.

almost as if it’s an international airport lol