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Old Posted Feb 24, 2023, 9:37 PM
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Also HNL, OGG, HUX, LTO
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 24, 2023, 11:40 PM
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Nassau NAS, Punta Cana PUJ, Varadero VRA, Montego Bay MBJ, Fort Lauderdale FLL, Phoenix Mesa AZA, Mazatlan MZT, Ixtapa-Zihuatanejo ZIH, Manzanillo ZLO, Liberia LIR , Belize City BZE ,Kailua-Kona KOA, Kahului OGG & Honolulu HNL .

Those 14+ destinations above are only operated during the winters,from Calgary YYC.
53 trans border, over seas and sun destinations. That’s pretty impressive!
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2023, 1:33 AM
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With the rise of Flair, Porter, Lynx, and even Swoop, Jetlines, and the sun destination incumbents Sunwing and Air TransAT, there doesn't seem to be enough pilots to go around, especially with the pandemic accelerating retirement for some.
Winner, winner, chicken dinner!

AC and especially Jazz doesn’t have the pilots to fly regional in the West.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2023, 1:46 AM
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I hope WS is looking at MEX and KEF too.
KEF wouldn’t work for WS as their is no beyond feed to build a connecting bank to Europe.

But if they really had to do KEF, send a max 7.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2023, 3:06 AM
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KEF wouldn’t work for WS as their is no beyond feed to build a connecting bank to Europe.

But if they really had to do KEF, send a max 7.
Iceland is a destination itself, that's why AC flies there from YYZ and YUL. It's not just a connecting airport.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2023, 3:16 AM
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Iceland is a destination itself, that's why AC flies there from YYZ and YUL. It's not just a connecting airport.
Of course, but what AC can draw from YYZ is obviously quite different than what WS can draw from YYC. The two aren't remotely comparable.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2023, 5:42 AM
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Of course, but what AC can draw from YYZ is obviously quite different than what WS can draw from YYC. The two aren't remotely comparable.
Yes, very true. It might be good to understand that city size and economy are two dominating factors in determining which airlines become destinations.
Icelandic airlines work very well out of Seattle, for example, due to the very large Scandinavian population there. Before that, for decades, SAS Scandinavian Airlines had a nonstop Seattle>< Seattle Copenhagen route both for CPH as a destination, and onward connections in Scandinavia. Seattle has most other major gateway airports in Europe, DUB, LHR, LGW, AMS, FRA, CDG, IST, and seasonally Helsinki on Finnair.
But Icelandic seems to offer competitive pricing, and also has a market for mainland Europe.
As for Calgary itself, and the airline destination roster, certain routes will just have to wait. Calgary already punches far above its weight for a city of its modest metro population, but the economy drives it fast.
Calgary already has an impressive roster of destinations, and it will only continue to grow.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2023, 8:30 AM
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With regard to WS I feel like their Euro expansion is done (for summers-I think there’ll eventually be double daily TATL flights in the wintertime), but I think they might increase frequency on NRT or maybe even add ICN
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2023, 7:08 PM
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Curious if FCO may eventually go daily in peak summer? ICN would make sense as a future add with an increased codeshare with KE. With AMS planning to reduce the number of slots, its growing unlikely to see it operate in the summer months. (It doesn't show next winter either.)

CDG only shows until Dec. 28 and then resumes in March (no flights in Jan / Feb). So I guess its not fully year-round yet.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 2, 2023, 2:17 AM
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I could see FCO adding frequencies for July and August peak if WS can find an extra Dreamliner sitting around somewhere.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 2, 2023, 4:10 PM
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I could see FCO adding frequencies for July and August peak if WS can find an extra Dreamliner sitting around somewhere.
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Old Posted Mar 3, 2023, 5:30 PM
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I could see FCO adding frequencies for July and August peak if WS can find an extra Dreamliner sitting around somewhere.
Based on the schedule now, they could add an additional FCO on Tuesday and only need 6 787s. Going daily would mean using all 7 on Sundays. So isn't totally impossible.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 4, 2023, 3:35 AM
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DL codeshare shows WS adding a red-eye YYC-ATL, with the route going 10x weekly.

YYC 23:50 - 06:08+1 ATL 737 246
ATL 09:00 - 11:58 YYC 737 357

SEA also appears to going full mainline too? LAX 3x daily.

YYC 11:50 - 12:29 SEA 73W Daily (On some days departs 09:35)
YYC 17:55 - 18:34 SEA 73W Daily
SEA 13:20 - 15:54 YYC 73W Daily (On some days departs 11:05)
SEA 19:25 - 21:59 YYC 73W Daily

Edit: S23 Transborder changes (peak period frequencies)

SEA - 2x daily 737 replacing 2x DH4
PDX - Increased to 2x daily
LAX - Increased to 3x daily
JFK - Increased to 6x weekly
DEN - Increased to 4x weekly
ATL - Increased to 10x weekly
SFO - Increased to 17x weekly

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Old Posted Mar 4, 2023, 9:32 PM
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We're getting frighteningly accurate at predicting WS transborder in this thread.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2023, 2:05 AM
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Looks like WS got a better slot pair at NRT. Schedule also updated this weekend too:

WS80 YYC 15:10 - 16:15+1 NRT 357
WS81 NRT 18:15 - 12:15 YYC 146

Also some domestic notes:
YYG increased to 4x weekly and season extended by a few weeks
YXY increased to 4x weekly
YZF also shows split mainline / encore. Has WS run mainline 737s there?
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2023, 2:17 AM
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Looks like WS got a better slot pair at NRT. Schedule also updated this weekend too:

WS80 YYC 15:10 - 16:15+1 NRT 357
WS81 NRT 18:15 - 12:15 YYC 146

Also some domestic notes:
YYG increased to 4x weekly and season extended by a few weeks
YXY increased to 4x weekly
YZF also shows split mainline / encore. Has WS run mainline 737s there?
Cool. Thanks for the update.

Before Encore, WS sent the NG into YZF on a regular basis.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2023, 3:55 AM
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Even well after Encore, YZF was still mainline. It was for most of 2017 as I recall, along with regular mainline frequencies for YQU.
     
     
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…Schedule also updated this weekend…
YZF also shows split mainline / encore. Has WS run mainline 737s there?
It seems so. I picked up a 737 shift late last year for which the first day included a YZF turn. The CSAs weren’t used to it and neither were the guests, who seemed pleasantly surprised. I think it was once a week or something like that. I wouldn’t mind doing that again in the summer!
     
     
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These are some huge increases for YYC. YQQ also goes full mainline 2x daily and YCD is 4x daily. Lots of smaller increases on most routes. 3x daily YOW too and LAS is 4x daily some days.

Seems like JFK is going 7x weekly though.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2023, 7:56 AM
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Thanks for clarifying YZF, my memory is foggy on that. Yeah, I see now JFK goes up to daily.

Other WS changes:

SJD increased to 4x weekly
CUN increased to 6x weekly (2x on Saturday)
PVR increased to 5x weekly
IAH increased to 13x weekly
YQG increased to 1x daily
     
     
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