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Old Posted Nov 19, 2021, 8:45 PM
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I wish we could get something like that in the bottom of 44 Monroe, as was promised 13 years ago. I think that space has sat vacant since the building opened.

Between 44 Monroe and Central Station is a retail/dining dead zone. The 44 Monroe space is empty, beside that is an empty parcel, then there is a pop-up COVID testing site, Poke 2U (which never has any customers), and finally the long-gone Even Stevens Sandwiches place, which still has all their supplies and furnishings in it. Hopefully once Central Station gets going, these will fill in.

Does anyone know what the plan is for Even Stevens? The "For Lease" signs seem to have been deliberately removed a couple months ago.
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Old Posted Nov 19, 2021, 10:19 PM
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I wish we could get something like that in the bottom of 44 Monroe, as was promised 13 years ago. I think that space has sat vacant since the building opened.

Between 44 Monroe and Central Station is a retail/dining dead zone. The 44 Monroe space is empty, beside that is an empty parcel, then there is a pop-up COVID testing site, Poke 2U (which never has any customers), and finally the long-gone Even Stevens Sandwiches place, which still has all their supplies and furnishings in it. Hopefully once Central Station gets going, these will fill in.

Does anyone know what the plan is for Even Stevens? The "For Lease" signs seem to have been deliberately removed a couple months ago.
I have to imagine those retails will fill eventually
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Old Posted Nov 24, 2021, 3:37 PM
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Pedal Haus opens in downtown Phoenix

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Old Posted Nov 24, 2021, 3:41 PM
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Went on Sunday, the music was a bit off as was the service but the food was good!

They were only open for a few days so I cut them some slack
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Old Posted Nov 25, 2021, 10:30 PM
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Firecreek Coffee

Looking forward to the Roastery, Restaurant, Bar and Event Venue on 16th Street and McDowell.

From: https://www.azcentral.com/story/money/bu...s-industry-knowledge-phoenix/8461735002/

After decades pursuing the perfect cup, Firecreek Coffee founder Mike Funk opens Phoenix location
Georgann YaraSpecial for the Arizona Business Gazette

He’s a coffee industry veteran who shares a hometown with the world’s largest coffee house chain.

But that’s pretty much all Firecreek Coffee founder Mike Funk has in common with the Seattle-based java powerhouse with a green and white nautical siren as its logo.

Funk has spent a decades-long career assisting small, independent coffee shops in opening and getting their wares produced and sold to customers through his Phoenix consulting company, Cafe Tech.

In Flagstaff in 2008, his craft evolved into coffee shop Firecreek Coffee. It would be followed by three more locations across Arizona: Sedona, Cottonwood and the latest in Phoenix.

But the Arcadia spot is just the start of Funk’s foray into the Valley. He’s restoring an old department store building at 16th Street and McDowell Road that will serve as an event and concert venue, restaurant and bar. It will serve as his second roastery in the city.

“It’s got 20-foot ceilings, a mezzanine … It’s the coolest building ever,” Funk said of the structure that was vacant for more than 10 years before he took hold of it. The venue is scheduled to open at the start of 2022, he said.

Funk’s appreciation for distinctive characteristics and classic yet non-mainstream charm is reflected in his coffee and the establishments in which it’s served. The Arcadia location flaunts the same small batch and welcoming coffee bar vibe that have captured the loyalty of northern Arizona fans for years.

Firecreek’s food menu goes beyond the typical fare that’s common among coffee shops. In-house pastry chefs are part of the team that make dishes that span baked treats and sweets to small bite morning-to-afternoon fare: quiche, gourmet toasts, salads and paninis. All syrups are made from scratch. This was all by Funk’s design.

“We want to be welcoming, comfortable and unpretentious,” Funk said.

This is how Funk views and treats coffee. He personally goes to Central America and works with farmers side by side, all in an effort to keep improving the quality of even what seems like the most perfect cup.

'Coffee is produce ... Just get it locally'

Firecreek is part of a U.S. coffee industry worth $96 billion, according to Statista. Also, according to the National Coffee Association, 53% of U.S. coffee drinkers prefer to buy environmentally friendly coffee or coffee which supports farmers.

This has played a role in Firecreek’s coffee finding its way to AJ’s Fine Foods, Whole Foods Market and many chef-owned restaurants. Firecreek runs classes through its barista school that offers in-depth training on how to work with their coffee and use their machines. Firecreek provides coffee, equipment and training to more than 25 cafes with espresso bars.

Hand roasted coffee at Firecreek Coffee in Phoenix.
Firecreek has experienced more than 20% growth year over year since 2013, Funk said. That’s projected to reach 50% year over year over the next three years, with the bulk of revenue coming from wholesale business.

Almost all of Firecreek’s coffee is sold in Arizona. This, Funk said, is key to maintaining the quality of his beans. While coffee can be roasted year-round, it’s really at its full potential for a few months. Shipping or prolonged packaging allows nature to take its toll.

“Coffee is produce. Being local and able to deliver it fresh after it’s roasted gives you a leg up,” Funk said. “We ask people just to get it locally, even if not from us.”

Jon Oughterson, owner of Local Jonny’s Tavern & Cafe in Cave Creek, has gotten his coffee from Firecreek for seven years. He likes that the Funk responsibly sources his coffee and does a lighter roast, which makes for a better cup of coffee. He said customers have noticed.

“We’ve been able to change people’s minds by educating them on how important where you get your coffee is,” Oughterson said. “We believe in the way Mike roasts his coffee, how he treats his employees and we know where the coffee comes from.”

When Oughterson opened his restaurant, Funk provided him with equipment in addition to coffee. He talked about how Funk helped him tremendously in the first three years, even adjusting billing cycles to accommodate the summer lull until the thriving snowbird season.

“He helped us so much in getting our business off the ground. A lot of our success goes to him helping us out in the beginning,” Oughterson said.

Journey from Seattle to Phoenix

“I came of age (during) Folgers. It was not too exciting for me,” Funk said, referring to the time period known as first wave coffee.

However, he recalled seeing espresso carts out by the original Starbucks and reading a newspaper article about their popularity. A friend convinced Funk to join him in a venture to build the carts.

“I said, ‘No way it’s going to work in Seattle. Let’s go to Colorado,’” Funk said with a chuckle, as he recalled where they thought their espresso cart business would thrive amid the snowy and ski culture.

Funk was living in Colorado when he sold his first cart before it was even completed — to a customer living in Seattle.

After a rocky start, financial snares and multiple glitches, Funk was able to sell two more carts to customers in Seattle. This was a sign. He moved back to his hometown, where Funk’s successful coffee career was launched by building some of the first espresso carts more than 30 years ago.

“I’ve made more mistakes in the coffee industry than anyone,” Funk said. “I was just a young dumb kid in the right place.”

In the mid-90s, Funk moved to Phoenix and launched Cafe Tech to help budding entrepreneurs open coffee shops by providing all the tools and accessories needed from machines to syrups and, of course, coffee. His focus was on independent shops, far from the high-powered corporate brand launched in his hometown.

Just after the turn of the century, Funk found himself at the forefront of third wave coffee, a level noted for its artisan characteristics, lighter roasting, single origin beans and transparency regarding sourcing.


This is fulfilling for Funk, who has formed a bond with those responsible for bringing his coffee into the world.

“The people are what's really wonderful… spending more time and having direct relationships with families and being able to promise them money before the season so they can bank on that and employ people,” Funk said. “It’s super humbling to learn from that.”

What: Firecreek Coffee

Where: 4602 E. Thomas Road, Phoenix

Employees: 50

Factoid: 62% of adult Americans drink coffee at least once every day, according to the National Coffee Association.

Details: firecreekcoffee.com
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2021, 2:13 PM
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16th St & McDowell is Arcadia now??

Everyone knows the bones of east McDowell Rd are decent, good to see more interest and projects finally.

Actually, McDowell Rd from I-17 to the 51 is pretty interesting and probably the best arterial "urban" streetscape in Phoenix. Aside from the typical empty lots that came from the dark ages of our City, and some of the big blocks near the Banner Hospital, it's a nice mix of new larger developments, street side retail and historic housing (single family and some apartments). Roosevelt between the 7s is better and more walkable, but not an arterial.

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Old Posted Nov 26, 2021, 2:59 PM
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16th St & McDowell is Arcadia now??
That's got to be a new record in terms of inventing inaccurate boundaries for Arcadia. I've encountered previous attempts to claim that 24th Street or even 20th Street are in Arcadia, but never before have I seen a claim that its boundaries extend west of SR51.

Edit: I should add that it also seems like a new record for trying to expand the boundaries in a southern direction. All the previous claims of Arcadia identity I've seen have stopped at Thomas. The historic southern boundary is the Arizona Canal, and 44th Street traditionally been the western edge of the neighborhood.
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2021, 4:53 PM
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That's got to be a new record in terms of inventing inaccurate boundaries for Arcadia. I've encountered previous attempts to claim that 24th Street or even 20th Street are in Arcadia, but never before have I seen a claim that its boundaries extend west of SR51.

Edit: I should add that it also seems like a new record for trying to expand the boundaries in a southern direction. All the previous claims of Arcadia identity I've seen have stopped at Thomas. The historic southern boundary is the Arizona Canal, and 44th Street traditionally been the western edge of the neighborhood.
It certainly wasn't the clearest reporting I've seen, so I can understand anyone's confusion. But looking at this paragraph more closely, and seeing that there's already a borderline Arcadia location at 4602 E Thomas brings a little more light to what the writer intended to convey. I added some context in parentheses:

"But the Arcadia spot(4602 E Thomas) is just the start of Funk’s foray into the Valley. He’s(also) restoring an old department store building at 16th Street and McDowell Road that will serve as an event and concert venue, restaurant and bar."
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2021, 9:07 PM
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Arcadia is from the canal to about Camelback and from 68th to 44th. Is that in question? I think anyone disputing that is either trying to feel included or is a real estate agent, wouldn't you agree?
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2021, 9:50 PM
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Arcadia is from the canal to about Camelback and from 68th to 44th. Is that in question? I think anyone disputing that is either trying to feel included or is a real estate agent, wouldn't you agree?
Absolutely. I grew up at 54th St and Exeter. Lived there from 1959 to 1976. All this "Arcadia Light" stuff is manufactured by realtors.
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2021, 2:59 AM
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There is the original arcadia but now people tend to use it to mean everything from Thomas-Camelback and Biltmore-scottsdale.

As the area gentrifies the gentrified neighborhoods try to associate with the good name. Nobody uses the term "camelback east"

Weather thats how it was or what it should be is irrelevant neighborhoods are determined on social consensus and the very fancy neighborhood of the OG Arcadia wasnt able to protect its name.
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2021, 2:59 AM
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Absolutely. I grew up at 54th St and Exeter. Lived there from 1959 to 1976. All this "Arcadia Light" stuff is manufactured by realtors.
The article started with the Arcadia clickbait, and made a lightning-fast turn to McDowell. NOT Arcadia, but you have to pay close attention.
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2021, 5:17 AM
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There is the original arcadia but now people tend to use it to mean everything from Thomas-Camelback and Biltmore-scottsdale.

As the area gentrifies the gentrified neighborhoods try to associate with the good name. Nobody uses the term "camelback east"

Weather thats how it was or what it should be is irrelevant neighborhoods are determined on social consensus and the very fancy neighborhood of the OG Arcadia wasnt able to protect its name.
I’m not sure how a neighborhood goes about protecting its name, or how you measure social consensus as it relates to the naming of neighborhoods. Did you take a survey? Just because somebody sees a financial opportunity to benefit from attaching to the original area doesn’t create consensus. Also, Arcadia was not originally the mass of mansions that you see today. It was developed primarily by Allied Homes in the mid 50s, within the boundaries described by Biggus above.

The area was previously agriculture with an emphasis on citrus growing. The original Arcadia consisted of a variety of homes aimed primarily at middle class blue and white collar families. At that time, Phoenix was still relatively small and was just beginning to outgrow its previously established boundaries and the area offered developers relatively inexpensive land that could provide larger than normal lot sizes.

There also wasn’t as wide an economic gap between the area and other neighborhoods around it as there is today. People used to refer to Arcadia High School as the “rich kids school” but that really wasn’t the case. There were many lower to middle income kids at Hopi Elementary and Arcadia when I attended. I know this because I was one of them. My mom had to really pinch pennies to keep five kids clothed and fed. I remember when she dyed our white shoes brown when they weren’t fashionable anymore, because she couldn’t afford to buy us new shoes. We got a lot of funny looks wearing them.

It wasn’t until the 90s that wealthy people began scraping off the old homes and building mansions. Today, Arcadia is nothing like the original neighborhood. The tract homes have been replaced by an enclave of ridiculously opulent homes that rival Beverly Hills and other exclusive LA areas.

For its first 30 years Arcadia was a wonderful place to live and to grow up in. It wasn’t snobby and full of people trying to one up their neighbors with a flashier home. I’m glad to have had that experience as a kid and I will always consider “Arcadia” to be the area as it was originally developed.
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but now people tend to use it to mean everything from Thomas-Camelback and Biltmore-scottsdale.
Right, they're either trying to fight in or are real estate agents.
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birdcall restaurant - Phoenix

Proposal for Denver-based restaurant w/ drive-thru "birdcall" at vacant gas station at SEC of Thomas Rd/7th St. Scottsdale location is currently in the works.
Restaurant website: https://www.eatbirdcall.com/
Zoning Adjustment info: https://apps-secure.phoenix.gov/PDD/PlanWeb/ZACase/ZA-640-21



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Wonderful. Looks like a similar concept to Crack Shack which is a California chain that I have long wished would open here.
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I know that gas station very well, mostly for it's abandoned state. I had long hoped it would be bulldozed and something else built in it's place. I even think years ago I saw what could have been some environmental remediation with the USTs and/or LUSTs removed and some replacement dirt work. But I'm not sure.

I'm highly surprised that piece of junk would fit the cool factor of that area for a renovation, or apparently this company. Seems like an 80s or 90s junky gas station
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Proposal for Denver-based restaurant w/ drive-thru "birdcall" at vacant gas station at SEC of Thomas Rd/7th St. Scottsdale location is currently in the works.
Restaurant website: https://www.eatbirdcall.com/
Zoning Adjustment info: https://apps-secure.phoenix.gov/PDD/PlanWeb/ZACase/ZA-640-21



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AMAZING improvement, and with the Condos going in across the street.... Maybe evenutally
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What actually is the status of those condos at the country club?
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I know that gas station very well, mostly for it's abandoned state. I had long hoped it would be bulldozed and something else built in it's place. I even think years ago I saw what could have been some environmental remediation with the USTs and/or LUSTs removed and some replacement dirt work. But I'm not sure.

I'm highly surprised that piece of junk would fit the cool factor of that area for a renovation, or apparently this company. Seems like an 80s or 90s junky gas station
I was okay with the look of the building until I saw the drive-thru lane lurking in the back.
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