Regina Construction III - Page 533

one_brick_at_a_time · #**10641** Posted **Mar 5, 2021, 8:35 PM**

Was wondering the same thing. IF a new downtown arena was going to happen, Broad Street actually would be a great spot and would help start some other hotel and restaurant development and rejuvenation around it. Broad Street area otherwise will continue to be empty. Anthony Marquart already has quite a bit of property in that section.

LittleBoy · #**10642** Posted **Mar 5, 2021, 9:09 PM**

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Am I missing something!?

Proposed was the wrong word choice as it has never gone through official channels and I’m not sure how serious the talks are. But this is the only spot I’ve ever heard discussed for a new arena and Marquart already owns most (if not al) of the block. Would be the only spot downtown I can think of that would be able to serve such a purpose

blacktrojan3921 · #**10643** Posted **Mar 6, 2021, 5:16 AM**

Yeeeeeeeah I don't think that's going to happen.

McBean · #**10644** Posted **Mar 6, 2021, 5:58 PM**

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Yeeeeeeeah I don't think that's going to happen.

Exactly. That's not gonna happen. But they are right, it would rejuvenate an all but completely dead downtown Regina if it did happen. Too bad it won't. Downtown Regina will continue to spiral downward without something like that.

Draftsman · #**10645** Posted **Mar 6, 2021, 7:06 PM**

Covid is going to leave many permanent changes in the world, even once most people are vaccinated and the spread is drastically reduced. It will be interesting to see what sort of demand there will be for sporting and entertainment facilities, shopping, hotels, offices, etc. I am hoping for the best, but we have to be realistic.

pappcam · #**10646** Posted **Mar 6, 2021, 11:36 PM**

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Covid is going to leave many permanent changes in the world, even once most people are vaccinated and the spread is drastically reduced. It will be interesting to see what sort of demand there will be for sporting and entertainment facilities, shopping, hotels, offices, etc. I am hoping for the best, but we have to be realistic.

Realistic for what? People will flock back to their old ways as soon as this is over. I don't know anyone who thinks any of this is permanent.

Draftsman · #**10647** Posted **Mar 7, 2021, 2:42 AM**

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Realistic for what? People will flock back to their old ways as soon as this is over. I don't know anyone who thinks any of this is permanent.

Well I'm glad you think so.

We're going to go back to what? Things have been dead in Regina long before covid. I was talking about "demand ...for sporting and entertainment facilities, shopping, hotels, offices, etc". So you think that 'magically' things are going to be booming again? People are out of work. Our governments are deeply in debt, as are a lot of people. People are doing more online shopping than ever before. People are signing up for streaming services to watch shows and movies at home. Going to theatres has become too expensive and most movies are crap. I don't think that will ever change back to "old ways". You must have an HD Crystal ball

to you too!!

pappcam · #**10648** Posted **Mar 7, 2021, 3:50 AM**

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Well I'm glad you think so.

We're going to go back to what? Things have been dead in Regina long before covid. I was talking about "demand ...for sporting and entertainment facilities, shopping, hotels, offices, etc". So you think that 'magically' things are going to be booming again? People are out of work. Our governments are deeply in debt, as are a lot of people. People are doing more online shopping than ever before. People are signing up for streaming services to watch shows and movies at home. Going to theatres has become too expensive and most movies are crap. I don't think that will ever change back to "old ways". You must have an HD Crystal ball

to you too!!

Who said anything about "booming"? Your strange diatribe seems to have assumed a lot of things I didn't say. I'm talking about normal life. Sporting events, live entertainment, bars and clubs, restaurants, etc. These things all were happening before covid and they will happen after covid. Yes, even movies since your opinion on the quality of movies really means nothing.

Migs · #**10649** Posted **Mar 7, 2021, 4:10 PM**

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Realistic for what? People will flock back to their old ways as soon as this is over. I don't know anyone who thinks any of this is permanent.

100% correct. Nothing about the last year is normal. We all know how to protect ourselves & what the risks are, thankfully the light is at the end of the tunnel. There is no “new normal”, just normal.

Migs · #**10650** Posted **Mar 7, 2021, 4:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by Draftsman

Well I'm glad you think so.

We're going to go back to what? Things have been dead in Regina long before covid. I was talking about "demand ...for sporting and entertainment facilities, shopping, hotels, offices, etc". So you think that 'magically' things are going to be booming again? People are out of work. Our governments are deeply in debt, as are a lot of people. People are doing more online shopping than ever before. People are signing up for streaming services to watch shows and movies at home. Going to theatres has become too expensive and most movies are crap. I don't think that will ever change back to "old ways". You must have an HD Crystal ball

to you too!!

Without question the demand will be strong, everyone in my family & friendship circle cannot wait to attend Riders games, go to Craven, go on vacation. People have endured this for a year and and are fed up. There will be however a small fraction of folks are want to continue to stay home just like there has always been some who refuse to fly d/t an unrealistic phobia. No reason whatsoever for this summer not to be just like summer 2019, my family cannot wait.

Festivus · #**10651** Posted **Mar 7, 2021, 4:31 PM**

I think opinions will differ depending on what circles you are in. If you are in a group of extroverted friends and family, then there will certainly be a demand to go back to normal. If you are an introvert, there will be less of a demand. Both are fine, and we shouldn't be shaming anyone.

I think there will be (largely) a reversion to what was normal before, with a few changes. I think there will be a push for more flex working from home in many industries (not full WFH, but the option of flex). I think there will be less physical contact in the workplace (shaking hands, etc). More (hopefully) acceptance of wearing a mask if you aren't feeling well or it's peak flu season, etc.

In terms of business/spending changes, I think we'll see a very large initial surge of spending from the middle/upper-middle class who has been saving money during the pandemic, secure in their jobs. At the same time, I think that there will still be a long-term negative impact in the working class jobs being gone (and not fully returning) due to spending habits shifting even more to online shopping, etc. This is the biggest challenge we will face, I think.

McBean · #**10652** Posted **Mar 7, 2021, 6:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by Festivus

I think opinions will differ depending on what circles you are in. If you are in a group of extroverted friends and family, then there will certainly be a demand to go back to normal. If you are an introvert, there will be less of a demand. Both are fine, and we shouldn't be shaming anyone.

I think there will be (largely) a reversion to what was normal before, with a few changes. I think there will be a push for more flex working from home in many industries (not full WFH, but the option of flex). I think there will be less physical contact in the workplace (shaking hands, etc). More (hopefully) acceptance of wearing a mask if you aren't feeling well or it's peak flu season, etc.

In terms of business/spending changes, I think we'll see a very large initial surge of spending from the middle/upper-middle class who has been saving money during the pandemic, secure in their jobs. At the same time, I think that there will still be a long-term negative impact in the working class jobs being gone (and not fully returning) due to spending habits shifting even more to online shopping, etc. This is the biggest challenge we will face, I think.

Great post Festivus. Well laid out.

aberrant · #**10653** Posted **Mar 8, 2021, 2:39 PM**

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Great post Festivus. Well laid out.

Agreed. The long term changes and impacts will not be based on fear.

Festivus · #**10654** Posted **Mar 8, 2021, 4:18 PM**

Something else that we are going to see is perhaps the greatest setback to professional women since before WWII. Due to the pandemic, women have left the workforce at a rate 10x that of men (with over 100,000 having permanently left), largely to take care of children at home. This is disastrous, and is going to create a generation of leaders with a gap in qualified women in their ranks. Women already have it much harder than men in terms of moving up corporate ladders and government positions thanks to existing hurdles (punished for taking mat leave, seen as less qualified unless they can outperform men by large margins, etc), so this is only going to hurt more.

Basically, coming out of this pandemic, we are going to see massive pain in the working class, and long-term reduction in qualified women at senior levels. These are systemic issues that must be addressed.

Aberrant, I would say that decisions based on fear are a good thing, in terms of the pandemic. I hope your comment doesn't imply that you believe people who are pro-mask, pro-restrictions, etc, are "afraid," and that this is bad (this is a common rhetoric from anti-mask people). There is good reason to be afraid of the spread of COVID-19, and while we can argue in good faith about specific measures governments have taken and what their effectiveness has been, there is no arguing how dangerous the disease is, and how many deaths have been averted thanks to restrictions. Fear is a useful emotion, and anyone not afraid of what a disease can do to them is not taking it seriously enough. I apologize if I misinterpreted your comment.

Draftsman · #**10655** Posted **Mar 8, 2021, 9:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by pappcam

Who said anything about "booming"? Your strange diatribe seems to have assumed a lot of things I didn't say. I'm talking about normal life. Sporting events, live entertainment, bars and clubs, restaurants, etc. These things all were happening before covid and they will happen after covid. Yes, even movies since your opinion on the quality of movies really means nothing.

Speaking of diatribes, you seem to do quite well in creating many.

Oh please! Go ahead and tell the tens of thousands of people who have lost their jobs or their businesses due to covid, that life is going to return to normal. You are so smart! All bow down to pappcam!! He knows everything!

pappcam · #**10656** Posted **Mar 9, 2021, 1:15 AM**

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Originally Posted by Draftsman

Speaking of diatribes, you seem to do quite well in creating many.

Oh please! Go ahead and tell the tens of thousands of people who have lost their jobs or their businesses due to covid, that life is going to return to normal. You are so smart! All bow down to pappcam!! He knows everything!

At least you have the flair for the dramatic. Must have graduated in the arts.

blacktrojan3921 · #**10657** Posted **Mar 9, 2021, 8:11 AM**

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Exactly. That's not gonna happen. But they are right, it would rejuvenate an all but completely dead downtown Regina if it did happen. Too bad it won't. Downtown Regina will continue to spiral downward without something like that.

It's more to do with the fact that, if that is the proposed area, then there isn't going to be much room for a WHL sized arena, let alone one that can potentially be NHL-sized.

yveseluj · #**10658** Posted **Mar 9, 2021, 3:57 PM**

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It's more to do with the fact that, if that is the proposed area, then there isn't going to be much room for a WHL sized arena, let alone one that can potentially be NHL-sized.

NHL size is a non-starter. Regina doesn't need/nor should we even consider anything that's much more than 10,000+ seats.

skphc08 · #**10659** Posted **Mar 9, 2021, 5:38 PM**

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NHL size is a non-starter. Regina doesn't need/nor should we even consider anything that's much more than 10,000+ seats.

Disagree. We will just continue to miss shows and events at ~10,000 seats. Build it correctly, one time. NHL size is the right size. And not because we will get a NHL team but for business cases for most larger scale events that occur in the winter and marginal seasons.

LittleBoy · #**10660** Posted **Mar 9, 2021, 6:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by blacktrojan3921

It's more to do with the fact that, if that is the proposed area, then there isn't going to be much room for a WHL sized arena, let alone one that can potentially be NHL-sized.

The MTS Place lot in Winnipeg has a footprint of approx 100 m x 170 m. The footprint of 1800 block Rose is the same size, 100 m x 170 m. It’s literally the same size so yes, there is enough space for not only a WHL sized arena, but could also facilitate an NHL arena.