Winnipeg Construction IX - Page 243

Urban recluse · #**4841** Posted **Sep 10, 2017, 3:27 PM**

Pretty decent.

rrskylar · #**4842** Posted **Sep 11, 2017, 7:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by wags_in_the_peg

looks like nice place in Crescentwwod, condo magazine has more info than website

http://themcmillan.ca/

The McMillan, "the place to live if you love to eat Mediterranean food with your fingers"

esquire · #**4843** Posted **Sep 11, 2017, 1:51 PM**

Isn't that the project that almost got NIMBYed to death? I think it might have been reduced in size or some such to appease the neighbours/area councillor.

It's a nice little project... I'm not sure what all the fuss was about. Although I don't get why they put in a mansard-type roof when that doesn't go with the general aesthetic of the place.

Authentic_City · #**4844** Posted **Sep 11, 2017, 3:51 PM**

^but the charcuterie looks delicious.

CoryB · #**4845** Posted **Sep 11, 2017, 4:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by pegcity

Cue the Winnipeg Debbie downers, there's a joint bid being put together between the province and city for the new Amazon headquarters.

Ohhhhh we should put in a bid for the 2030 Winter Olympics too.

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Originally Posted by DancingDuck

It's such an opportunity the city/province would be crazy to not at least give it a shot, even if it is almost guaranteed somewhere else will get chosen

Have to agree hosting the 2030 Winter Olympics would be a true opportunity for Winnipeg and MB that we would be crazy to not as least give it a shot, even it is almost guaranteed somewhere else will get chosen. /s

buzzg · #**4846** Posted **Sep 11, 2017, 6:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by trueviking

It'll be interesting to see what the final design for 300 Main is. It's rendered as all glass. Even spandrel has reduced insulation from solid walls. I'm not sure how it would be possible but we will see.

Most residential buildings can't afford an all glass and spandrel facade. It's just the reality. Artis must be working on a very long payback. Until we have rental and condo rates like other cities and more competitive construction costs glass isn't realistic in Winnipeg. Design of a typical residential project usually includes a hot debate over the upcharge of stucco to hardie board. Every inch of glass is precious.

TNS got in under the old code I believe.

Is it possible they have some extra money to play with since there foundation is not only already built, but generates income?

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Originally Posted by wags_in_the_peg

looks like nice place in Crescentwwod, condo magazine has more info than website

http://themcmillan.ca/

Looks nice - if that wood is like the raw pine (?) one that went up on Wellington, I'm all for it! Love that place. Ventura has been doing some nice infill lately.

Wolf13 · #**4847** Posted **Sep 11, 2017, 8:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by Urban recluse

Your opinion is correct though

TV knows better; of course you can still build glass towers that meet the codes. It will add to the cost, but you can do it. 300 Main?

Thank you

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Originally Posted by drew

I think what TV is referring to is those glass towers in Vancouver that are all floor to ceiling glass.

That kind of thing would be difficult to pass through the new energy code for MB, and really, it should be. Entire walls of glass (like those in Vancouver) would not be enjoyable in -30C or +30C here in Winnipeg.

Our glass towers would need to include lots of spandrel to cover the insulation a climate like ours needs.

300 Main is not an all glass tower..?

The exterior structure is... it just has some panelling in place of glass, but that's an entirely curtain wall assembly.

That's why I'm confused about the "all glass" thing... an all glass curtain walled structure performs better thermally than a window wall structure by miles, so it doesn't make sense

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Originally Posted by drew

Well, we kind of need to get that specific. The buildings in Vancouver all "look" that way because the class is continuous and uninterrupted.

I guess it works OK when you have an annual temperature swing of 30 C. Not so much when its closer to 70.

300 Main is uninterrupted as well. Thermally that is more efficient than, for example, Glasshouse.

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Originally Posted by trueviking

It'll be interesting to see what the final design for 300 Main is. It's rendered as all glass. Even spandrel has reduced insulation from solid walls. I'm not sure how it would be possible but we will see.

Most residential buildings can't afford an all glass and spandrel facade. It's just the reality. Artis must be working on a very long payback. Until we have rental and condo rates like other cities and more competitive construction costs glass isn't realistic in Winnipeg. Design of a typical residential project usually includes a hot debate over the upcharge of stucco to hardie board. Every inch of glass is precious.

TNS got in under the old code I believe.

The affordability of all glass is low, but the foundation of 300 is already there... that's why I'd guess they're going this route. But what about the code? I presume you can energy model that thing towards approval?

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Originally Posted by Andy6

It's probably more of a publicity stunt than a serious bid. Canada's tech sector is getting a bit of U.S. media exposure over this, and they want Winnipeg to get some media mentions in that context rather than being completely invisible as usual.

And this would be wise.

drew · #**4848** Posted **Sep 11, 2017, 8:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by Wolf13

The exterior structure is... it just has some panelling in place of glass, but that's an entirely curtain wall assembly.

The exterior wall has a fairly big percentage of spandrel with 5" of roxul behind it. Also a decent percentage of alucobond, again with 5" of roxul.

it's certainly not floor to ceiling open glass by any stretch.

balletomane · #**4849** Posted **Sep 12, 2017, 6:02 AM**

Anyone heard more runblings/news regarding
-Richardson project
-Bradburn Building
-416 Main

BAKGUY · #**4850** Posted **Sep 12, 2017, 4:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by balletomane

Anyone heard more runblings/news regarding
-Richardson project
-Bradburn Building
-416 Main

My thoughts as well plus...
The lot @ Main st & McDermot..a residential complex, not 416 main but on the corner next to Newman-Maclean bldg, now palomino?
138 Portage Ave E hotel conversion?
We have not heard a peep in awhile. Is it still a go?
I imagine a moderate range hotel brand?

Back to 416 main...
I am hoping for a major hotel @ 416 main..Like Mariott, Hilton, Hyatt, Sheraton.. all these chains exist here or will soon. Westin would be great as well.

EndoftheBeginning · #**4851** Posted **Sep 12, 2017, 5:40 PM**

Re: 221 Stradbrook

These are the plans on file (not as colourful as the render, but gives all four elevations). Variance application is asking for a height is 154 ft.

esquire · #**4852** Posted **Sep 12, 2017, 6:37 PM**

That last one kind of makes it look like a scaled down replica of 300 Assiniboine, what with those town houses running alongside of it.

Speaking of the town houses, I really like them... they will do a great job of hiding the parkade.

bomberjet · #**4853** Posted **Sep 12, 2017, 7:13 PM**

I actually quite like the street scene therewith the townhouses. Gives it a good urban feel, similar to larger cities like New York. 3 storey rowhouse type things.

If that proposal goes ahead on the tennis courts, I'd like it. Nothing too fancy, but will fill a void and bring more people to the area.

Gm0ney · #**4854** Posted **Sep 12, 2017, 8:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by BAKGUY

My thoughts as well plus...
The lot @ Main st & McDermot..a residential complex, not 416 main but on the corner next to Newman-Maclean bldg, now palomino?
138 Portage Ave E hotel conversion?
We have not heard a peep in awhile. Is it still a go?
I imagine a moderate range hotel brand?

Back to 416 main...
I am hoping for a major hotel @ 416 main..Like Mariott, Hilton, Hyatt, Sheraton.. all these chains exist here or will soon. Westin would be great as well.

There are a couple of construction dumpsters behind 138 Portage Ave. E and they appear hauling a lot of stuff out - gutting the interior.

buzzg · #**4855** Posted **Sep 12, 2017, 9:34 PM**

Does it take up the exact footprint of the courts or will it eat up some of the wedge lot to the east?

EndoftheBeginning · #**4856** Posted **Sep 12, 2017, 9:54 PM**

Not much of the wedge piece is included. Here are the ground floor and upper level footprints. BTW, 15 floors plus penthouse and mechanical noted on the plans.

buzzg · #**4857** Posted **Sep 12, 2017, 10:31 PM**

Hmm that actually makes it look better than I expected. Nice that all vehicle access is off Bell, and the live/work spaces look pretty close up to the sidewalk. Just me or is the tower footprint fairly small?

Also, what is GEN SET - the one storey building top right?

cllew · #**4858** Posted **Sep 12, 2017, 10:40 PM**

Gen Set is the stand buy generator for emergency lighting and firefighter/EMT elevator use in case of a Mb Hydro power outage in the complex.

I believe that under the Manitoba building code over a certain number of sq meters floor space or 3 stories backup power is required, but I am not sure.

buzzg · #**4859** Posted **Sep 12, 2017, 10:42 PM**

Ahhh, makes sense.

DowntownBooster · #**4860** Posted **Sep 13, 2017, 1:15 AM**

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Originally Posted by BAKGUY

My thoughts as well plus...
The lot @ Main st & McDermot..a residential complex, not 416 main but on the corner next to Newman-Maclean bldg, now palomino?
138 Portage Ave E hotel conversion?
We have not heard a peep in awhile. Is it still a go?
I imagine a moderate range hotel brand?

Back to 416 main...
I am hoping for a major hotel @ 416 main..Like Mariott, Hilton, Hyatt, Sheraton.. all these chains exist here or will soon. Westin would be great as well.

Is there actually talk of something going up at 416 Main? I know we're all hoping something will go up at that location but it would be nice to know that something is going up there.