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[officedweller]

Originally Posted by madog222

Yes, also for the left turns WB from 8th and EB from Broadway.

Thanks!
There's also a white vertical bar at Marine Drive eastbound at Taylor Way in West Van.
Are there any others around Metro Vancouver?

[aberdeen5698]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Thanks!
There's also a white vertical bar at Marine Drive eastbound at Taylor Way in West Van.
Are there any others around Metro Vancouver?

There's one at the bottom of the exit ramp from northbound Knight Street Bridge to Marine Drive - it allows buses to make an advance left turn onto Marine Drive westbound.

[madog222]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Thanks!
There's also a white vertical bar at Marine Drive eastbound at Taylor Way in West Van.
Are there any others around Metro Vancouver?

I know in North Van on Main St. At Mountain Hwy and in New West at the bottom of 20th to the Queensburough Bridge. For sure there's a few others.

Originally Posted by logan5

So how much contingency have they built into the timeline? Opening by Labour Day 2027? It's been a long haul.

Current schedule is for Fall 2027 opening which means by December. I really doubt they will finish "early" but we don't really know.

[Vantage]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Thanks!
There's also a white vertical bar at Marine Drive eastbound at Taylor Way in West Van.
Are there any others around Metro Vancouver?

There's one in Port Coquitlam, Northbound Shaughnessy St at Lions Way. That one's been there for a couple decades too.

[officedweller]

Cool, thanks everyone!

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by logan5

So how much contingency have they built into the timeline? Opening by Labour Day 2027? It's been a long haul.

Who knows, but the Main St closure looked to be making quick progress and then barely opened on time.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Who knows, but the Main St closure looked to be making quick progress and then barely opened on time.

I think Logan may have been referring to the entire project, rather than the road reopening. But you're right, they estimated the time the Main Street closure needed very accurately.

It looks like the right turn lane south on Main should be available soon - they poured the new curb last week.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Changing City

I think Logan may have been referring to the entire project, rather than the road reopening. But you're right, they estimated the time the Main Street closure needed very accurately.

It looks like the right turn lane south on Main should be available soon - they poured the new curb last week.

They may have poured something but as of my walk by yesterday it's still a few inches short of the curb.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

They may have poured something but as of my walk by yesterday it's still a few inches short of the curb.

It looks like they've patched in some asphalt, but I hadn't noticed that they're still working on the Broadway lane further west, so the turn lane might not be available until they've finished that.

[Dave2]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Thanks!
There's also a white vertical bar at Marine Drive eastbound at Taylor Way in West Van.
Are there any others around Metro Vancouver?

Brentlawn and Willingdon, where buses trigger the pedestrian crossing.

[madog222]

Originally Posted by AlessioSBT

I know I already said this but I am a little bit worried by the fact that on main I don't see any tree.
I remember seeing them in the project I really hope this is not a way to cut expenses and time becasue broadway without trees would be very very far from the "great street" plan they had in mind.

Re: Green infrastructure along Broadway.


From City of Vancouver https://guidelines.vancouver.ca/policy-plan-broadway-public-realm.pdf


Rain garden / horticultural planting at the curb bulge and in front of the station entrance.






Tree trenches along the rest of the street, excluding in front of the Lee Building.




Photos from myself.

[Feathered Friend]

A little late, but better than never?

[s211]

Originally Posted by madog222

Re: Green infrastructure along Broadway.


From City of Vancouver https://guidelines.vancouver.ca/policy-plan-broadway-public-realm.pdf


Rain garden / horticultural planting at the curb bulge and in front of the station entrance.

"Rain Garden" !!!!!

More like mud pits. This city will never learn from existing mud strips present all over the city where grass was mandated between streets and sidewalks.

[madog222]

Originally Posted by s211

"Rain Garden" !!!!!

More like mud pits. This city will never learn from existing mud strips present all over the city where grass was mandated between streets and sidewalks.

No one is talking about grass...

[CanSpice]

Originally Posted by s211

"Rain Garden" !!!!!

More like mud pits. This city will never learn from existing mud strips present all over the city where grass was mandated between streets and sidewalks.

These are drastically different from a strip of grass. Here's a whole set of pages describing Vancouver's green infrastructure: https://vancouver.ca/home-property-development/green-infrastructure.aspx

[madog222]

It sounds like traffic at Oak and Granville will shift off the traffic deck in September.

[chowhou]

This is a rare instance where I'm with s211 here. Rain gardens as officially designed are dead space eyesores that don't have a place in the dense urban core of Vancouver. It's as though modern civil engineers forgot why we built storm sewers in the first place.

To those saying they aren't mud strips:

2014: New development includes modern rain gardens as part of green infrastructure.

2023: State today.

[GenWhy?]

Just looks like a standard boulevard landscaping buffer. Raingardens (in Vancouver anyway) are used to take on rainwater from the gutter and have a curb cut for rainwater to enter. Looks like it was planted in 2014 and abandoned the year after while Solo District's boulevard is maintained over the years.

[Nouvellecosse]

Originally Posted by chowhou

This is a rare instance where I'm with s211 here. Rain gardens as officially designed are dead space eyesores that don't have a place in the dense urban core of Vancouver. It's as though modern civil engineers forgot why we built storm sewers in the first place.

To those saying they aren't mud strips:

2014: New development includes modern rain gardens as part of green infrastructure.

2023: State today.

Road verges or other similar measures are necessary for urban street trees to survive regardless of what they look like since being surrounded by impermeable or very low permeability surfaces make it impossible for them to get enough water. The only other option is expensive underground watering tubes. Diverting all the water to drainage sewers is not an option unless you're willing to do without street trees and all their massive benefits.

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by Nouvellecosse

Road verges or other similar measures are necessary for urban street trees to survive regardless of what they look like since being surrounded by impermeable or very low permeability surfaces make it impossible for them to get enough water. The only other option is expensive underground watering tubes. Diverting all the water to drainage sewers is not an option unless you're willing to do without street trees and all their massive benefits.

How odd then that other commercial high streets like Denman, Robson, and Commercial are considered to have such high quality street trees despite lacking this supposedly critical "infrastructure".