Broadway Subway - Millennium Line Extension to Arbutus | U/C

[madog222]

Due to the number of posts, this project has been split into two threads. This thread covers construction of the project.

Please see the previous thread for all discussion up until the start of construction:

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=162479

[Jimbo604]

Broadway and Main.



Photo source: me

[Jimbo604]

Originally Posted by Changing City

There's an 8-storey condo building developed on Cambie right next to (and over the top of) the King Edward station.

If I remember correctly the condo was cantilevered over the station so the station and the condo are two separate entities.

While it ended up well here it is disappointing that it seems like doing a large development in conjunction with a station from the get-go is apparently beyond our processes.

And then we end up with a situation like Cambie and Broadway, a significant cross roads in the city which could & should have a significant building on the corner.

However, it ended up with a meager one storey station building that wastes the potential of this important cross road.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by Jimbo604

If I remember correctly the condo was cantilevered over the station so the station and the condo are two separate entities.

While it ended up well here it is disappointing that it seems like doing a large development in conjunction with a station from the get-go is apparently beyond our processes.

And then we end up with a situation like Cambie and Broadway, a significant cross roads in the city which could & should have a significant building on the corner.

However, it ended up with a meager one storey station building that wastes the potential of this important cross road.

If it was as significant as you thought it was then someone with deeper pockets would have bought the land and built something bigger on it.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

If it was as significant as you thought it was then someone with deeper pockets would have bought the land and built something bigger on it.

That wasn't really an option - the City has owned most of that block for many years. Long-term they were planning on developing a new City Hall there, although that may be much further off now, given the impact COVID has had on City finances.

I'm perfectly OK with the existing single storey building and plaza on the corner for a while - longer term there will be something reasonably significant to the south and east of the corner, and until the Arbutus addition to SkyTrain is built having a large space for the lines for the 99 is a good idea. Just like at King Edward, it ought to be possible to cantilever over the station, if it was really necessary, although I would think the site for development will be plenty big enough without adding extra engineering costs.

[Hooknose]

And then we end up with a situation like Cambie and Broadway, a significant cross roads in the city which could & should have a significant building on the corner.

There will be a significant building on the corner.

once the block east of Cambie is finished being used for station construction purposes, say 2024, that will be the new city hall.

The building on 12th and Cambie, while a nice heritage building, cannot be upgraded to meet seismic requirements.

That means that while they might keep it for ceremonies, a new city hall has to be built.

That will simultaneously, bring in all the functions from the old Vancity building as well as Crossroads but also form the basis for a really great exchange between the to lines and a town meeting place.

Think 30 stories

[scottN]

Originally Posted by Changing City

It's not big enough. Check out the illustrations Jimbo604 linked to on 1 October from the Broadway Line website. There are several more buildings along W Broadway to be demolished for construction of the line. They can be redeveloped (presumably at higher densities) once station construction is complete. I think the single storey retail on Main was redeveloped after a fire, so the insurance would presumably only pay for a cheap replacement. If they had added residential on top it would have made building a station here much more difficult.

It looks like the block between main and kingsway is only 70m long on the north side, so the excavation for the station platfroms would need to disrupt either main street of Kingsway. With the proposed location west of Main, only broadway is disrupted during construction.

[officedweller]

WRT Broadway City-Hall Station, I'll bet that the City also wants to preserve the sightlines towards City Hall from Cambie St. and the one-storey stationhouse on the corner does that.
The rest of the block to the eastwill be densified (hopefully, subject to the view cone) so that seems like a reasonble approach.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by officedweller

WRT Broadway City-Hall Station, I'll bet that the City also wants to preserve the sightlines towards City Hall from Cambie St. and the one-storey stationhouse on the corner does that.
The rest of the block to the eastwill be densified (hopefully, subject to the view cone) so that seems like a reasonble approach.

Some of the viewcones for Cambie start up the hill on 12th Avenue so you might have been able to stick a four storey building on top of the station.



https://vancouver.ca/home-property-development/cambie-street-protected-view.aspx

[officedweller]

I was actually thinking of the view towards City Hall - shown here,
but the Google Streetview does show that there are a lot of trees in the way (though not in winter)


https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2643108,...IPaeX8jsEUee6Wbh3YjWA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

[jollyburger]

525 Great Northern Way will be torn down early in 2021

November 5, 2020 – 525 Great Northern Way

The Broadway Subway Project Corporation will begin work today on the first phase of work to install fencing prior to the removal of hazardous materials at 525 Great Northern Way. Work will occur weekdays from 7 am to 3 pm and take approximately eight weeks. Once the first phase is completed, the second phase of work at this location will begin and focus on building demolition. Updates will be provided here to keep you informed so you can plan accordingly.

https://www.broadwaysubway.ca/app/uploads/sites/626/2020/11/525-GNW-Notice_2020Nov05.pdf

[Jimbo604]

Photo source: me

https://www.broadwaysubway.ca/construction/current-work/

525 Great Northern Way

The Broadway Subway Project Corporation will begin work today on the first phase of work to install fencing prior to the removal of hazardous materials at 525 Great Northern Way. Work will occur weekdays from 7 am to 3 pm and take approximately eight weeks. Once the first phase is completed, the second phase of work at this location will begin and focus on building demolition. Updates will be provided here to keep you informed so you can plan accordingly.

PDF Notice: Link
"This first phase of work is expected to begin on Monday, November 9, 2020 and will occur weekdays from 7 am to 3 pm and take approximately eight weeks"

So signs of demo not expected until beginning of January. Still exciting, though. Albeit not direct construction work, it is the first non-utility relocation work / non-Trolley Wire Relocation work listed on https://www.broadwaysubway.ca/construction/current-work/

[officedweller]

Great pics, thanks!

[jollyburger]

Demolition of the Mount Pleasant Station buildings started today and will last four months.

Phase One: removal of hazardous materials at 124-138 E. Broadway, 140-150 E. Broadway and 2501 Main Street. Work will occur weekdays from 7 am to 3 pm for approximately 8 weeks, with minimal noise and impact to traffic expected.

Phase Two: starts at 2509 Main Street on November 30, 2020, followed by the other three buildings once the removal of hazardous materials is completed. Work includes the removal of electrical and HVAC systems and demolition of interior walls.

Phase Three: full demolition of all four buildings, anticipated to begin in early 2021.

https://www.broadwaysubway.ca/app/upload...Mount-Pleasant-Abatement-Letter.docx.pdf

[vango]

Station Design Advisory Process Open House

Join us here for our Station Design Virtual Open House from November 26 to December 9, 2020 where you can see and share your comments on the station designs.

https://broadwaysubwayproject.civilspace.io/en

[Migrant_Coconut]

I'm seeing escalators for only one direction. Please say I'm wrong.

[Metro-One]

Originally Posted by vango

Station Design Advisory Process Open House

https://broadwaysubwayproject.civilspace.io/en

I was just about to say that this has been one of the most slow and boring non holiday season weeks I have ever seen on SSP Vancouver, but then you drop this balm!

Don’t like how basic they are keeping the Broadway entrance unless there is some future development plan that isn’t shown / public that they are anticipating. Really should be widened for a few more gates.

And while there is no second entrances I do see punch out walls at some stations (such as Broadway and VGH). Guessing those are for possible future second entrances / underground connections?

[madog222]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

I'm seeing escalators for only one direction. Please say I'm wrong.

I see one for each direction, look at the labels on the floor plans.

[scryer]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

Don’t like how basic they are keeping the Broadway entrance unless there is some future development plan that isn’t shown / public that they are anticipating. Really should be widened for a few more gates.

The lack of gates concerns me as well. I am also just hoping that for those stations that aren't already incorporated in a future redevelopment on top of them, that they are at least built to accommodate any future developments. Sorry for the mouthful there.

Originally Posted by Metro-One

And while there is no second entrances I do see punch out walls at some stations (such as Broadway and VGH). Guessing those are for possible future second entrances / underground connections?

I also saw some punch out walls in the Mount Pleasant station plans as well. I'll have to go back and look at all of them again later today but I imagine that they would all have some punch out walls as part of a design standard? I vaguely remember reading that it's a design standard somewhere on this forum...

[idunno]

Not stoked about the lack of cycling connections from 10th to the stations. Though I guess that'll come with the Broadway Plan engagement this winter.