Canadian Federal Election - Page 261

dleung · #**5201** Posted **Apr 8, 2025, 12:25 AM**

Quoted below for those too stupid to see the same Republican playbook from the "Do you condemn 9-11?" era. Should we ask every MAGA to constantly disavow Charlottesville/Jan 6 (a harder task since many are still in denial lol). Is anti-genocide now pro-Hamas? Is the US a shining city on a hill, or is it now fine with fighting terrorism with terrorism?

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As for complaining about antisemitism, this happens to all groups. Personally I have witnessed far more anti-Islam, and anti-Asian sentiment. The Jewish state is engaged in genocide, killing innocent people (women, children, journalists, first responders, etc),. Many of us are growing tired of the "antisemitic" whine, for the horrible crimes the Israeli Government is committing in Gaza.

Maybe Palestinians should have been more vocal about not killing innocent people before they decided to go and kill…. Innocent people. Instead of condemning the atrocities, They danced in the streets.

Now they play victim.

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...the pro Hamas protestors...

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The fact that there is on their part so very little recognition of or discussion of responsibility for launching the Oct. 7 attacks, or demands for the release of the remaining (60?) hostages, says a lot.

kiwi4353 · #**5202** Posted **Apr 8, 2025, 1:21 AM**

I think the U.S does spiral into a 1930s style recession. We need a stable hand at the ship.

kwoldtimer · #**5203** Posted **Apr 8, 2025, 1:32 AM**

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I think the U.S does spiral into a 1930s style recession. We need a stable hand at the ship.

That was a depression, not a recession.

BlackDog204 · #**5204** Posted **Apr 8, 2025, 1:43 AM**

Angus Reid poll today

Acajack · #**5205** Posted **Apr 8, 2025, 2:20 AM**

Apparently a huge number of people could be attempting to cross our borders in the next weeks and months.

Architype · #**5206** Posted **Apr 8, 2025, 2:25 AM**

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Angus Reid poll today

December 2024 would have been a good time for the NDP to force an election.

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Apparently a huge number of people could be attempting to cross our borders in the next weeks and months.

Who's going to come knocking? Should we let them in?

BlackDog204 · #**5207** Posted **Apr 8, 2025, 3:30 AM**

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Apparently a huge number of people could be attempting to cross our borders in the next weeks and months.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00938-y

BlackDog204 · #**5208** Posted **Apr 8, 2025, 4:35 AM**

Alberta premier suggests Mark Carney has issues with ‘strong conservative women’

Alberta Premier Danielle Smith responded Monday to Liberal Leader Mark Carney using her as a stump speech punchline, saying Carney has issues with assertive women of opposing ideologies.

“I’ve noticed this with progressive men and how much they talk about how much they support women until they meet a strong conservative woman,” Smith said in Edmonton, responding to questions at an unrelated news conference.

“This is a pretty consistent type of approach that I’ve seen, not only from the current prime minister, but the former one as well.”

more: https://globalnews.ca/news/11120299/danielle-smith-mark-carney-jabs/

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Carney's subtle jab at Smith during a campaign rally did not go down well with the far right pundits in Canada. Now Smith is painting herself as a "victim," after she her shakedown attempt to Ottawa. She is arguably one of the weakest leaders in Canada, regardless of sex. She is such an embarrassment to Albertans and Canadians.

Loco101 · #**5209** Posted **Apr 8, 2025, 5:05 AM**

Latest Nanos poll:

LPC: 42.8%

CPC: 37.7%

NDP: 7.9%

BQ: 6.7%

GPC: 2.8%

PPC: 1.6%

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Preferred Prime Minister:

Carney: 49.8%

Poilievre: 32.1%

Unsure: 5.9%

Singh: 4.4%

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https://nanos.co/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/2025-2783-ELXN-FED-2025-04-06-Field-Ended.pdf

Tvisforme · #**5210** Posted **Apr 8, 2025, 8:48 AM**

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I’ll give you anti-woke, and arrogance, but the fake news, yelling at media, and especially lying all the time are completely made up...

If you genuinely don't think that Poilievre is repeatedly berating and belittling media outlets and making repeated claims about "fake news", then sorry, but you're really not paying attention to how he operates. He even tried to insinuate that there was something suspicious about Carney's selection.

Truenorth00 · #**5211** Posted **Apr 8, 2025, 10:32 AM**

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Apparently a huge number of people could be attempting to cross our borders in the next weeks and months.

Where you seeing this? Or is this the Canadian version of American fearmongering of Mexican caravans?

Djeffery · #**5212** Posted **Apr 8, 2025, 10:36 AM**

Has to be a kick in the teeth to consistently poll lower than the party you lead. Imagine if the Conservatives had a strong leader how this would be shaking down. Assuming this plays out to a Liberal majority, I wonder how he makes the case to stay on as leader, if the party even stays together. You have to think this would be the Liberals last term after 14 years, kind of following along the Ontario Liberals - new leader, new majority after minority, then the dust bin the next election. It will absolutely kill Pierre to sit there and watch someone else lead his party to that win in 29. He's not going to stand there on election night and announce his departure as leader, they are going to have to pry him out of there I think. Of course, you never know, the party might actually vote to keep him too.

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Latest Nanos poll:

LPC: 42.8%

CPC: 37.7%

NDP: 7.9%

BQ: 6.7%

GPC: 2.8%

PPC: 1.6%

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Preferred Prime Minister:

Carney: 49.8%

Poilievre: 32.1%

Unsure: 5.9%

Singh: 4.4%

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https://nanos.co/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/2025-2783-ELXN-FED-2025-04-06-Field-Ended.pdf

Acajack · #**5213** Posted **Apr 8, 2025, 10:38 AM**

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Where you seeing this? Or is this the Canadian version of American fearmongering of Mexican caravans?

Radio-Canada. Not exactly MAGA or even CPC devoted media.

Migrant arrivals have already begun spiking at the Lacolle crossing south of Montreal.

And later this month just as one example the emergency permission to stay in the US for over 500000 Haitians is going to be ended by the Trump administration.

So no it doesn't sound like a bogeyman to me.

Truenorth00 · #**5214** Posted **Apr 8, 2025, 10:42 AM**

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Radio-Canada. Not exactly MAGA or even CPC devoted media.

Migrant arrivals have already begun spiking at the Lacolle crossing south of Montreal.

And later this month just as one example the emergency permission to stay in the US for over 500000 Haitians is going to be ended by the Trump administration.

So no it doesn't sound like a bogeyman to me.

This was already anticipated after Trump's election though. It's not really some new trend. So what's the new information here? The government has been deploying more CBSA. And that dog and pony show for Trump with Blackhawks has the added benefit of enabling our own border security.

Marshsparrow · #**5215** Posted **Apr 8, 2025, 10:59 AM**

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Alberta premier suggests Mark Carney has issues with ‘strong conservative women’

Alberta Premier Danielle Smith responded Monday to Liberal Leader Mark Carney using her as a stump speech punchline, saying Carney has issues with assertive women of opposing ideologies.

“I’ve noticed this with progressive men and how much they talk about how much they support women until they meet a strong conservative woman,” Smith said in Edmonton, responding to questions at an unrelated news conference.

“This is a pretty consistent type of approach that I’ve seen, not only from the current prime minister, but the former one as well.”

more: https://globalnews.ca/news/11120299/danielle-smith-mark-carney-jabs/

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Carney's subtle jab at Smith during a campaign rally did not go down well with the far right pundits in Canada. Now Smith is painting herself as a "victim," after she her shakedown attempt to Ottawa. She is arguably one of the weakest leaders in Canada, regardless of sex. She is such an embarrassment to Albertans and Canadians.

The "right" can sure throw mud but act like the biggest snowflakes and advocates of cancel culture when it is turned just every so slightly on them... Danielle Smith standing up for once for women is pure comedy.

Marshsparrow · #**5216** Posted **Apr 8, 2025, 11:01 AM**

Was Stephen Harper attending the Pierre rally last night as former PM or as Modi's rep with the IDU?

Harper also making it clear that Canada's problems and us being broken are our fault - again linking Pierre's premise that we are stupid and it isn't Trump - thanks for that reminder Steve.

Really classy move and typical of Harper to take credit for avoiding the financial crisis and throwing Carney under the bus... Conservatives really have a hard time sharing and giving credit where it is due - interesting he didn't share with use what Pierre was doing during that same time - absolutely f*** all.

In his remarks he introduced Pierre and Anna - I find this entire bringing her into everything really really really strange...

BlackDog204 · #**5217** Posted **Apr 8, 2025, 11:12 AM**

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He's not going to stand there on election night and announce his departure as leader, they are going to have to pry him out of there I think. Of course, you never know, the party might actually vote to keep him too.

This is not without precedent. In 1993, Kim Campbell ran a disastrous campaign, which saw the governing Progressive Conservatives lose all but two seats. In her post election speech, Campbell joked about "not having sold her car," but initially refused to step down. There was a revolt, which saw Campbell resign a few days later. The PC voters had abandoned the party, only for Western voters to gravitate to the Reform Party, and Quebec voters to gravitate to the Bloc.

If Poilievre and his inner circle lose big, and refuse to step down, it will definitely cause a mutiny at best. However, I actually believe that there are cracks in the foundation of the CPC, and there is a high chance that the party will split into two- the moderates will defect to form their own party, similar to the old PC Party of the 20th century. The remaining members will likely lead a party similar to the old Reform Party, considering the core of the populist movement is based out of Alberta.

kwoldtimer · #**5218** Posted **Apr 8, 2025, 11:49 AM**

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Apparently a huge number of people could be attempting to cross our borders in the next weeks and months.

It's a bit surprising that there hasn't already been an uptick. The Trump Admin is still voicing concern about the growing issue of the north-south flow.

kwoldtimer · #**5219** Posted **Apr 8, 2025, 11:51 AM**

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Where you seeing this? Or is this the Canadian version of American fearmongering of Mexican caravans?

The latest from the Trump Admin is directed toward the "growing problem" on the northern border.

BlackDog204 · #**5220** Posted **Apr 8, 2025, 12:00 PM**

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Quoted below for those too stupid to see the same Republican playbook from the "Do you condemn 9-11?" era. Should we ask every MAGA to constantly disavow Charlottesville/Jan 6 (a harder task since many are still in denial lol). Is anti-genocide now pro-Hamas? Is the US a shining city on a hill, or is it now fine with fighting terrorism with terrorism?

The same people who are indifferent to a genocide that is occurring in real time, and making a huge deal of pro-Palestinian protests, would have been the loudest to oppose asylum for Jews fleeing from Nazi Germany. I cannot ignore the irony of it all.