Canadian Federal Election - Page 246

Marshsparrow · #**4901** Posted **Apr 4, 2025, 1:19 PM**

Nanos "Preferred PM Polling":

Carney - 51%
Poilievre - 31%
Singh - 5%

With those #s, Pierre is running out of time to swing things around...

YOWetal · #**4902** Posted **Apr 4, 2025, 1:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by Truenorth00

I watched an interesting analysis and critique of the three main parties' housing plans. None of them great. Conservative one is the most problematic. Posting here to criticism of the takes in the video.

Good video presenting one view that we need a wholesale move away from market oriented solutions to housing. Naturally the NDP plan to take federal lands and spend money to build housing coops etc is judged the best. The thing is those who have given up on the housing market don't want to live in commie blocks built by the government. In most markets they can already afford to get into the apartment housing market but don't want that. They were promised their white picket fence with a patch of grass. Conservatives will lower the price of new housing with the tax cut which will spur some building. The gatekeepers method as he says seems like it will be an excuse to cut funding to cities rather than get much built.

Meanwhile with an incoming tariff caused recession and the freeze in immigration our housing crisis seems as likely to be empty unsellable units as much as it will be a shortage.

Truenorth00 · #**4903** Posted **Apr 4, 2025, 1:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by YOWetal

The thing is those who have given up on the housing market don't want to live in commie blocks built by the government.

The alternative is not getting out of their parents' basement, or being homeless.

Nobody is saying commie blocks are great. They are better than the alternative. That's the point.

MonctonRad · #**4904** Posted **Apr 4, 2025, 1:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by Truenorth00

The alternative is not getting out of their parents' basement, or being homeless.

Nobody is saying commie blocks are great. They are better than the alternative. That's the point.

Council housing is a better term than "commie block." It's how they refer to housing projects like this in the UK.

There is certainly a place for housing like this. Canada stopped building social housing sometime in the 1980s. There is currently a large deficit in such housing.

I am concerned however that they may go overboard in their plans and subvert the marketplace. We should be careful and proceed with caution.

Truenorth00 · #**4905** Posted **Apr 4, 2025, 1:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad

I am concerned however that they may go overboard in their plans and subvert the marketplace. We should be careful and proceed with caution.

The chances of the NDP forming government are rather low...

BlackDog204 · #**4906** Posted **Apr 4, 2025, 1:31 PM**

Support for Canada becoming the 41st state has notably decreased since that last time Canadians were polled a month ago. Probably due to the tire fire down south. May also have something to do with reports of Canadians and Europeans getting caught up in the ICE raids, and spending time in detention centres.

YOWetal · #**4907** Posted **Apr 4, 2025, 1:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by Truenorth00

The alternative is not getting out of their parents' basement, or being homeless.

Nobody is saying commie blocks are great. They are better than the alternative. That's the point.

Brief blip of high rates and high prices 2023-25 most people are capable of buying housing if they willing to live in an apartment. It might be called a dog crate condo by some. Apparently you have to watch your fertility window disappear because it's not possible to have a kid without a yard but the NDP isn't going to get you a yard. Well it might get you a shared one but the young people complaining about never getting in the housing market aren't going to be at the top of those waiting lists anyway.

Housing co-ops are kind of a cool heavily subsidized concept but they are hit or miss with the neighbours you get and only add to the bifurcation of the housing market. With the middle class squeezed out of either option. Even if there was a money tree and the level of spending required to implement on a massive scale didn't require continued debt and eventual tax hikes.

Truenorth00 · #**4908** Posted **Apr 4, 2025, 1:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by YOWetal

Brief blip of high rates and high prices 2023-25 most people are capable of buying housing if they willing to live in an apartment.

Housing was unaffordable before 2023. Long before 2023.

Those gains haven't reversed.

Go look up average one bedroom and two bedroom rents these days. There are places in this country you'd need to have a six figure income to just meet the ≤30% income on shelter rule.

I don't think most people genuinely understand how bad it is for young people today. And if you're 25, the last two years are 10% of your whole life and a quarter of your adult life. Of course that perspective is going to be different.

YOWetal · #**4909** Posted **Apr 4, 2025, 1:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by Truenorth00

Housing was unaffordable before 2023. Long before 2023.

Those gains haven't reversed.

Go look up average one bedroom and two bedroom rents these days. There are places in this country you'd need to have a six figure income to just meet the ≤30% income on shelter rule.

I don't think most people genuinely understand how bad it is for young people today. And if you're 25, the last two years are 10% of your whole life and a quarter of your adult life. Of course that perspective is going to be different.

Interest rates were so low in 2020-2022 that housing was very affordable. Yes you needed to do like most people and saved during the pandemic and not ordered Uber Eats every night and splurged on revenge travel and WFH from Bali.

Yes if you are 25 looking at 5% mortgages and $900k townhouses it can seem hopeless. As you say their memory is short. Especially because they assume another doubling of prices by 35. But those that saved from 25-30 have been able to buy into the market for the past 30 years at a record level.

Debating how bad or not things are isn't the key question. It's what policies will make things better or worse. Rental prices are coming down partly because the Liberals have super charged corporate rental construction with CMHC loans but mostly because of falling immigration. Newer entrants to the workforce are always going to be the most negatively impacted by immigration but to use your word it's more about vibes where the boomers who demand less immigration and the Gen Z who grew up with and embrace it.

MolsonExport · #**4910** Posted **Apr 4, 2025, 2:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by ssiguy

Pity poor Pierre.

As if Smith's industrial sized mouth wasn't doing enough harm, along comes Manning. His op/ed basically stating that unless the Tories win, the West will leave. Pierre is currently having a hard enough times as it is and the last thing he needs is to have to answer media question about his supposed friend's comments. Between Trudeau quitting, Trump propping up the Liberal, Smith's mouth, and now Manning, I'm actually starting to feel sorry for the guy.

and this is why old Preston Manning of the REFOORRRRMMM Party never won.

Is he trying to scare the rest of Canada with his Danielle-Smithian garbage?

Go back to that rock that you crawled out from, Preston. You haven't been relevant for decades.

BlackDog204 · #**4911** Posted **Apr 4, 2025, 2:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

Nanos "Preferred PM Polling":

Carney - 51%
Poilievre - 31%
Singh - 5%

With those #s, Pierre is running out of time to swing things around...

Poilievre is just not a likeable person to the average Canadian. I would not be surprised if Carney more than doubles PP in a week or so...

MolsonExport · #**4912** Posted **Apr 4, 2025, 2:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by Hecate

And I worked in selkirk Manitoba we used to see Vince Lee… the guy who beheaded and ate someone’s face on a bus outside portage la prairie… walking around town unsupervised, no biggie. Vince was the real victim here after all, because of his mental illness. Not the guy he ate.

I don’t think the conservatives did that lol

Do you think the liberals did that lol?

Acajack · #**4913** Posted **Apr 4, 2025, 2:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by MolsonExport

Do you think the liberals did that lol?

So who did it then? Is there no one responsible for such things?

MolsonExport · #**4914** Posted **Apr 4, 2025, 2:52 PM**

Personally, I blame the Bloc Quebecois.

Acajack · #**4915** Posted **Apr 4, 2025, 2:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by MolsonExport

Personally, I blame the Bloc Quebecois.

OK, thanks for that.

MolsonExport · #**4916** Posted **Apr 4, 2025, 2:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

So who did it then? Is there no one responsible for such things?

Stephen Harper was PM when the crime happened, but it is a RIDICULOUS to singularly lay the blame on a political party. You know this of course.

MolsonExport · #**4917** Posted **Apr 4, 2025, 2:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

OK, thanks for that.

No problem, pot-stirrer.

Acajack · #**4918** Posted **Apr 4, 2025, 2:56 PM**

So I looked it up. At least politically, this is it:

When Vincent Li was released in the first part of 2015, Greg Selinger (NDP) was Premier of Manitoba and Stephen Harper (Conservative) was Prime Minister of Canada.

Of course they were not involved directly in the decision which was made by various courts and boards, comprised of appointees. Under a series of laws and regulations. I don't know who appointed the people on those bodies or under which governments those rules were made.

MolsonExport · #**4919** Posted **Apr 4, 2025, 2:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by Censored

Since people apparently didn't figure it out, I got myself banned on purpose since this forum is a toxic but strangely addicting waste of time. It doesn't take much to piss off self-righteous egotistical leftists, so getting banned was quite easy.

This account will be banned shortly as well.

I am a busy person and don't have time to argue with idiots. Self-control didn't work, so I went for the nuclear option instead.

That being said, when people are turning a blind-eye to obvious corruption in our country, I need to speak out every now and then. So yes I made a temp account to talk some sense into whoever reads this forum. I know my numerous other posts were read and did make a difference.

Anyways this was fun.

Do you realize how silly you sound?

You really think you brought anyone around to your weird way of thinking?

At least this time, you didn't get to write a manifesto before being 86'd from SSP.

Don't try to come back. There are already too many Migs's on this forum.

Acajack · #**4920** Posted **Apr 4, 2025, 2:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by MolsonExport

No problem, pot-stirrer.

Name-calling doesn't change the fact that this is totally abhorrent to most right-minded people. The excuse that "this is just what the process allows, sorry" doesn't fly, as if we were powerless in the face of this faceless omniscient entity, no matter how hard people try.