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View Poll Results: Who has the more positive vision for Canada's future?
Mark Carney's Liberals 176 73.95%
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You had indoor plumbing? Richie rich over here lol.
Ice in the toilet bowl but at least the pipes didn't burst. I don't know how that didn't happen.
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Ten bucks says carneys housing plan sees more investment style condos, instead of actual housing Canadian families can live in.

How about just giving money to Canadians wanting to build their own homes and fuck all the middlemen.
Canadians can't live in Condos? How do we magically make more suburban land. If we built Highways we could add a decent amount of supply but freezing immigration with the resulting stagnation and eventual decline is the only way and even then Montreal shows the limit of that where unaffordability has also arrived.
     
     
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Ten bucks says carneys housing plan sees more investment style condos, instead of actual housing Canadian families can live in.

How about just giving money to Canadians wanting to build their own homes and fuck all the middlemen.
Can you please help me understand how you think this would even be realistically possible? Simplistic populist ideas like these ignore reality and are contradictory.
     
     
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Good to see the Conservatives turf a selected candidate who thought Justin Trudeau deserved the death penalty.

Wondering what kind of vetting the CPC is doing on their candidates if these comments were out in the open?
     
     
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There’s only one side purposely starving and bombing 2 million people in brazen genocide.
This is not a Canadian election issue so let's leave it elsewhere. Surprisingly given how big an issue it was in the US.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 1, 2025, 4:24 PM
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You had indoor plumbing? Richie rich over here lol.
No matter what, you’ve always had it worse.

Btw I’m sorry to hear how difficult your childhood was MonctonRad. That’s very sad. It’s inspirational how you overcame your circumstances and help others every day for a living.
     
     
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Good to see the Conservatives turf a selected candidate who thought Justin Trudeau deserved the death penalty.

Wondering what kind of vetting the CPC is doing on their candidates if these comments were out in the open?
He resigned, Carney didn't turf him.
     
     
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It might not be completely broken, but it’s got one hell of a pretty big chip,

I don’t want that chip getting bigger.
That is the key reason to vote for a party that is committed to actually get housing built, build a safety net, to making daycare accessible so families can get a head.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 1, 2025, 4:34 PM
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He resigned, Carney didn't turf him.
Certain there was some encouragement from Carney and his team.
     
     
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He resigned, Carney didn't turf him.
I'm not talking about Paul Chiang - this is a Conservative candidate that got sacked for wanting to kill the PM.
     
     
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It's beyond stupid. Every person who has a master's degree or higher and reads the actual lines they are talking about will call it BS. Bad citation. Absolutely. Big P plagiarism like they are accusing him of? Definitely not. I am fairly sure that anything written by any person in this forum would find plagiarism if the same standard was applied.

Also, the guy wrote a thesis of several hundred pages. Nobody has read that. Least of all a bunch of partisan journalists and hacks. They ran it through AI software, printed out the handful of hits they got and ran to the press. I'm not even sure they actually understand the lines they claimed he plagiarized.

Telling, that this is all they have on the guy.
I have not read it. But when I did my masters these the committee would have caught something like if it was significant.

He did finally respond to the thesis question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBxiExazLL8

He looked pleased that someone picked up and read his thesis after 30 years.
     
     
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No matter what, you’ve always had it worse.

Btw I’m sorry to hear how difficult your childhood was MonctonRad. That’s very sad. It’s inspirational how you overcame your circumstances and help others every day for a living.
Yeah seriously… what a pedantic response to a very genuine, from the heart insight into the life of another poster.
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It might not be completely broken, but it’s got one hell of a pretty big chip,

I don’t want that chip getting bigger.
What specific Conservative party policy is going to prevent this?

Or is it just Vibes?
     
     
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Can you please help me understand how you think this would even be realistically possible? Simplistic populist ideas like these ignore reality and are contradictory.
Bootstraps. It is simple. Give 'em the money, and they can build the homes themselves. Heck, all you need are some bricks, concrete, and a couple of two-by-fours. Easy-Peasey. You just need to pull yourself up by your own bootstraps.
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I'm fee for service. This means I am personally incorporated and have no pension or benefits. I save for my retirement. Maybe this is why I am still working at age 67, and plan on keeping going until I am 69.

I may be a "rich doctor" now, but, my father died when I was 10 years old. He worked for CNR and didn't have a full pension when he died. My mother brought me up on a meager partial survivors pension and what she could earn as a seamstress. We lived in a downtown duplex with poor heating. I remember having to break the ice in the toilet bowl occasionally to go to the bathroom in the morning. I put myself through undergraduate and medical school. I did not get any help from my mother (nor did I expect any since she was just barely making ends meet).

Don't presume that you know what other people have gone through. I do know what it is like being poor. I know it very, very well...............


Well said, Sir.

My old man also worked for CNR and was bounced out of a job at 50, when the company was on the ropes. I put myself through university with 45 hour workweeks at McDonald's, for 5 years. I experienced a year of living in a trailer with completely frozen pipes from December through March.
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Genuinely curious when PP was smeared. I'd like to go back and see how unfair these attacks were.
I'm sorry is the F-Trudeau crowd whining about people smearing PP?
     
     
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Must have been some serious arm twisting going on.

It would have been better if Carney had pulled the plug personally. There are certain lines that must not be crossed, and Chiang literally did a ballet pirouette over that line with his comments regarding turning in his opponent to a foreign embassy. This was indefensible.
Should have been gone immediately. I assume this was a learning curve for Carney in politics. We'll see what happens if there is another bozo eruption.
     
     
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No matter what, you’ve always had it worse.

Btw I’m sorry to hear how difficult your childhood was MonctonRad. That’s very sad. It’s inspirational how you overcame your circumstances and help others every day for a living.
Thanks.

We may have been poor, but, I had a generally happy (or at least non traumatized) childhood. My mother was an inspiration. There were lots of books in the house. I had three siblings and between the four of us, we earned a total of seven university degrees. My mother must have done something right.

I think it speaks to her character that she did not even have a high school education but went back to earn her GED when she was in her late fifties.

A high value was placed on education in the house.
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First, the Palestinians did it to themselves. They chose this, not the other way around.
What a brain dead take. This isn't a week after the attack, this is 2025.
     
     
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My old man also worked for CNR and was bounced out of a job at 50, when the company was on the ropes. I put myself through university with 45 hour workweeks at McDonald's, for 5 years. I experienced a year of living in a trailer with completely frozen pipes from December through March.
I think social mobility was easier 40-50 years ago than it is now. I don't think success stories like ours are as common today.
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