Canadian Federal Election

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by Hecate

How old are you?

O-Tac sometimes gets overly enthusiastic in his hatred of right wing ideology.

I'm centre-right and find PP difficult to take, but I find O-Tac frequently over the top in his hyperbole.........

[Hecate]

Originally Posted by Truenorth00

Genuinely curious when PP was smeared. I'd like to go back and see how unfair these attacks were.

Seriously? Just the other day you were going on about the conservatives selling us out to the states, yet the party says the opposite.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by Hecate

Seriously? Just the other day you were going on about the conservatives selling us out to the states, yet the party says the opposite.

What PP needs to do is stop parroting Drumpf's talking points.

I think he gets it now, but there is just so much "Canada is broken" drivel out there on the interweb that it just keeps coming back to haunt him.

[CanSpice]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

O-Tac sometimes gets overly enthusiastic in his hatred of right wing ideology.

I'm centre-right and find PP difficult to take, but I find O-Tac frequently over the top in his hyperbole.........

I'm left wing and his hyperbole is idiotic. It serves no purpose other than to make him look like a fool.

[Hecate]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

What PP needs to do is stop parroting Drumpf's talking points.

I think he gets it now, but there is just so much "Canada is broken" drivel out there on the interweb that it just keeps coming back to haunt him.

Maybe canada isn’t broken for you, or many of the people on here who live comfortable lives in homes that they own.

But for many young people, families, it’s broken.

Doubling of foodbank lines. More kids living with their parents. Stagnant wages, escalating costs of living.

You’re a doctor, you have no idea what low income people go through.
You have benefits, pension. Millions don’t, and they don’t even earn enough to save.

[O-tacular]

Originally Posted by Hecate

How old are you?

Old enough to recognize the rotten apple that spoils the bunch. Or in this case the odious, populist Trump fluffer aspiring to stain our flag and conspire with my petro-prostitute-Premier.

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

O-Tac sometimes gets overly enthusiastic in his hatred of right wing ideology.

I'm centre-right and find PP difficult to take, but I find O-Tac frequently over the top in his hyperbole.........

Where did I say anything tarring conservatives as a whole with the PeePee brush? I was simply using a metaphor for how his brand of hateful demagoguery has no place in our home.

[Hecate]

Originally Posted by O-tacular

Old enough to recognize the rotten apple that spoils the bunch. Or in this case the odious, populist Trump fluffer aspiring to stain our flag and conspire with my petro-prostitute-Premier.



Where did I say anything tarring conservatives as a whole with the PeePee brush? I was simply using a metaphor for how his brand of hateful demagoguery has no place in our home.

Just toxic… ewwww

[O-tacular]

Originally Posted by Hecate

Seriously? Just the other day you were going on about the conservatives selling us out to the states, yet the party says the opposite.

Of course they say the opposite. They’ll tell any lie to get into power. Just ask Danielle Smith or Donald Trump.

[Hackslack]

Originally Posted by O-tacular

Of course they say the opposite. They’ll tell any lie to get into power. Just ask Danielle Smith or Donald Trump.

Or Mark Carney

[O-tacular]

Originally Posted by CanSpice

I'm left wing and his hyperbole is idiotic. It serves no purpose other than to make him look like a fool.

Well sorry for having some juvenile fun in the face of existential threat. I still think my metaphor was apt.

[O-tacular]

Originally Posted by Hecate

Just toxic… ewwww

Says the guy who defends Israel carpet bombing women and children.

[YOWetal]

Originally Posted by Hecate

Maybe canada isn’t broken for you, or many of the people on here who live comfortable lives in homes that they own.

But for many young people, families, it’s broken.

Doubling of foodbank lines. More kids living with their parents. Stagnant wages, escalating costs of living.

You’re a doctor, you have no idea what low income people go through.
You have benefits, pension. Millions don’t, and they don’t even earn enough to save.

Topsy turvy American politics arriving where those struggling and getting government cheques are voting Conservative to stop the wasteful spending and the "rich" doctors are voting for higher (or at least status quo) taxes.

Or you believe the magic wand will arrive getting rid of the gatekeepers and making cheap suburban housing available to all.

[Hecate]

Originally Posted by O-tacular

Says the guy who defends Israel carpet bombing women and children.

First, the Palestinians did it to themselves. They chose this, not the other way around.

Second, Look at the Jewish populations of Israel’s surrounding neighbours and then get back to me about killing women and children.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by Hecate

You’re a doctor, you have no idea what low income people go through.
You have benefits, pension. Millions don’t, and they don’t even earn enough to save.

I'm fee for service. This means I am personally incorporated and have no pension or benefits. I save for my retirement. Maybe this is why I am still working at age 67, and plan on keeping going until I am 69.

I may be a "rich doctor" now, but, my father died when I was 10 years old. He worked for CNR and didn't have a full pension when he died. My mother brought me up on a meager partial survivors pension and what she could earn as a seamstress. We lived in a downtown duplex with poor heating. I remember having to break the ice in the toilet bowl occasionally to go to the bathroom in the morning. I put myself through undergraduate and medical school. I did not get any help from my mother (nor did I expect any since she was just barely making ends meet).

Don't presume that you know what other people have gone through. I do know what it is like being poor. I know it very, very well...............

[O-tacular]

Originally Posted by Hackslack

Or Mark Carney

So far his brand of pragmatic policy fits his character as a banker and a rational, competent leader. Someone who is calm, not angry all of the time. Someone who is thoughtful and pro-active, not reactive. But mostly someone who is honest in his assessment of the threats that we face, such as American expansionism and climate change (which are intrinsically tied together). He also is listening and proposing policies that conservatives have advocated for which makes it funny that you attack him for it.

[Hecate]

Originally Posted by YOWetal

Topsy turvy American politics arriving where those struggling and getting government cheques are voting Conservative to stop the wasteful spending and the "rich" doctors are voting for higher (or at least status quo) taxes.

Or you believe the magic wand will arrive getting rid of the gatekeepers and making cheap suburban housing available to all.

Ten bucks says carneys housing plan sees more investment style condos, instead of actual housing Canadian families can live in.

How about just giving money to Canadians wanting to build their own homes and fuck all the middlemen.

[O-tacular]

Originally Posted by Hecate

First, the Palestinians did it to themselves. They chose this, not the other way around.

Second, Look at the Jewish populations of Israel’s surrounding neighbours and then get back to me about killing women and children.

There’s only one side purposely starving and bombing 2 million people in brazen genocide.

[casper]

Originally Posted by Hecate

Maybe canada isn’t broken for you, or many of the people on here who live comfortable lives in homes that they own.

But for many young people, families, it’s broken.

Doubling of foodbank lines. More kids living with their parents. Stagnant wages, escalating costs of living.

You’re a doctor, you have no idea what low income people go through.
You have benefits, pension. Millions don’t, and they don’t even earn enough to save.

Canada is not broken. There are many countries in the world that are. That said, there are people struggling to pay for housing, to bring in a salary that covers there expenses and to get ahead. The question is who is putting forward polices that improve the lives of those who are struggling.

The conservatives believe in magic. Cut taxes and companies will hire more people and pay better salaries. Reduce standards on build a house and magically private developers will build more. Lock people addicted to drugs up and they will recover.

The reality is private industry has one job, maximizing return for shareholders. That is it. They will charge as much for new homes as the market will support. They will pay the lowest salaries they can that retains and attracts employees.

The NDP are activists. They want to see government do everything.

The Liberals are somewhere between. They want to see the private sector do its thing, but accept there are gaps where government needs to step in.

Those that are struggling to find low cost housing or who salaries are low honestly are better served by a NDP or Liberal government.

[Hecate]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

I'm fee for service. This means I am personally incorporated and have no pension or benefits. I save for my retirement. Maybe this is why I am still working at age 67, and plan on keeping going until I am 69.

I may be a "rich doctor" now, but, my father died when I was 10 years old. He worked for CNR and didn't have a full pension when he died. My mother brought me up on a meager partial survivors pension and what she could earn as a seamstress. We lived in a downtown duplex with poor heating. I remember having to break the ice in the toilet bowl occasionally to go to the bathroom in the morning. I put myself through undergraduate and medical school. I did not get any help from my mother (nor did I expect any since she was just barely making ends meet).

Don't presume that you know what other people have gone through. I do know what it is like being poor. I know it very, very well...............

You had indoor plumbing? Richie rich over here lol.

[Hecate]

Originally Posted by casper

Canada is not broken. There are many countries in the world that are. That said, there are people struggling to pay for housing, to bring in a salary that covers there expenses and to get ahead. The question is who is putting forward polices that improve the lives of those who are struggling.

The conservatives believe in magic. Cut taxes and companies will hire more people and pay better salaries. Reduce standards on build a house and magically private developers will build more. Lock people addicted to drugs up and they will recover.

The reality is private industry has one job, maximizing return for shareholders. That is it. They will charge as much for new homes as the market will support. They will pay the lowest salaries they can that retains and attracts employees.

The NDP are activists. They want to see government do everything.

The Liberals are somewhere between. They want to see the private sector do its thing, but accept there are gaps where government needs to step in.

Those that are struggling to find low cost housing or who salaries are low honestly are better served by a NDP or Liberal government.

It might not be completely broken, but it’s got one hell of a pretty big chip,

I don’t want that chip getting bigger.