Canadian Federal Election

[dleung]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

Just in case some here wilfully ignored the charge, here it is again:

Smith told U.S. administration officials that she hoped "we could put things on pause," so Canada could get through an election, she told Breitbart. Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre is more aligned with the Trump administration's agenda, Smith said.

but enough about that. let's get back to the real issues, like how Carney is a Socialist, his wife's sister's association with Ghislaine Maxwell, and the persecution of Christians in Canada.

Maple MAGA's apparent party line on this is "not criminal", just like Trump's perfect phone call. Clearly the most important qualification for PM in 2025 is whether Carney can defeat Trump's fascist American annexation in French

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

Shout out to Hecate, Samne, and Acajack for keeping the discussion focused on the real issues. Thanks guys.

That venn diagram between friends

[Calgarian]

Originally Posted by travis3000

^You must get your information from Rick Bell over at the Sun. But calls of treason and arrest are also just as looney.

The fact remains she was unethical and absolutely tried to pitch Poilievre to US officials. Her words, linking PP to the current US administration will hurt him no doubt. She was trying to help him, when in fact she did the opposite. She also tried to stop the tariff talk until after the election BECAUSE it was hurting the Conservatives in the polls. Straight from her mouth.

It's not like she was just casually telling the host that holding off on tariffs would be mutually beneficial for the countries. She sold the idea with the INTENT of trying to affect the outcome.

Criminal? Let's be real. Nobody is going to come arresting her. But its horrible optics and ethically bankrupt.

Lol Rick Bell? I can't stand that guy, his articles are written in crayon (which I'm sure he eats after lol). To be clear, I don't like Smith and voted against her. I don't like PP and will likely vote against him too.

Anyway, was just stating that it seems reasonable to want a pause in the tariffs until after the election, then Dump has a clear negotiating partner (adversary?). If Smith did explicitly state to Trump that this would benefit the CPC, then it's shady as fuck, but not interference. She is a very power hungry person and is infatuated with her own reputation, so I wouldn't put it past her.

[Loco101]

Originally Posted by Northern Light

Any reason you didn't post it?

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Data for poll from March 21st, 2025.

Cons: 35.6
Libs: 34.1
NDP: 16
BQ: 7.6
GrN: 4.3

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That's quite the outlier when you look at the recent polls on 338

https://338canada.com/polls.htm

I've posted more Nanos polls on here than others because I find them to be more accurate overall because they do telephone polling rather than online.

That polls would give us about what we saw in the 2019 and 2021 elections for comparison. It would mean a Liberal minority victory. BUT, this is the beginning of an election campaign so I will be watching the Nanos telephone polls to see movement. I do find it interesting that Nanos has NDP support as being much higher than any other polling company. But the last three Nanos polls haven't had much of a change in party support at all unlike many other polls out there.

[Loco101]

Originally Posted by Wigs

I wouldn't want to make any bets based on polls.

Canada should learn from USA on that

To me, as of today, it seems like a 55-45% chance of a Carney win, and a majority government is definitely not a guarantee either

I never predict the outcome until the last two weeks of an election campaign. I remember in 2021 so many on here were convinced that the O'Toole Conservatives were headed for a majority as polls suggested but then things changed after campaigning and the debates.

[Calgarian]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

We need a adult in charge of the country for a change.

[elly63]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

The only reason why they were in the lead before the possibility of a Trumpian fascist takeover of Canada arose is because JT was leading the Liberal Party. JT and his simpering, pandering, SJW, virtue signalling woketarian ways are thankfully now history. The toxicity of JT was frankly radioactive.

That would be lovely if true but I don't believe it for a second. Leopards don't change their spots

What was it, 87% of the same people in caucus? Carney and his WEF connections and "I'm a European" utterances. Familial circumstances which (if true) lead Carney to be sympathetic to those "woketarian" tendencies

We already had the Fascist takeover with the Emergencies Act and debankng which both police and banks deemed unnecessary IIRC

Frankly, I want Carney to be the one against Trump and I don't see a path for Pierre winning, unless we have an election pretty similar to the US where you can't believe the polls. But I don't see him doing right by Alberta and if he doesn't I can't blame them doing whatever they think is best for their interests.

We have already had instances of what he says and what someone else is saying and there are those who say he could be worse than Trudeau and if he is I can guarantee we'll be in a bigger mess than we are now. Trudeau got us to the place where we could be exploited, we can't go back to those ideologies and actions.

[O-tacular]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Pre-election Strategy Poll

1. An election might be only a few days away. Will you be voting for Pierre Poilievre and common sense Conservatives?*
Yes – Canada First!
No – we should not put Canada First

2. If you had 5 minutes to give Pierre advice before the election, what would you say?*

3. Carbon Tax Carney is BAD for Canada. Do you agree?*
Yes
No

4. The Liberals’ woke obsessions have eroded our national pride. Do you agree?*
YES – Canada must celebrate—NOT tear down—our heroes and history.
No – I like woke cancel culture

5. Pierre Poilievre will go ahead with the Bring it Home Tax Cut—the BIGGEST and most PATRIOTIC tax cut in Canadian history. Do you think that’s a good idea?*
Yes – Axe the tax and Bring it Home!
No – The government should tax and spend more of my money

6. Conservatives will unleash Canadian energy, bring home powerful paycheques & economic independence for our country. Do you support that?*
Yes – Put Canada First and strengthen our economy!
No – leave our resources in the ground and let foreign countries fulfill our energy demand

7. The Liberals have weakened our military. Conservatives will strengthen it. Do you support strengthening our military?*
Yes – Warrior culture—NOT woke culture.
No – I don’t want our allies to respect Canada

8. When an election is called, how will you support Pierre Poilievre and common sense Conservatives?*


source: https://www.conservative.ca/cpc/pre-election-strategy-poll/

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It's almost like the Conservative Party is preparing for an election at the local Junior High School.

Are they plagiarizing Trump social media posts? PATRIOTIC tax cuts?! Like that sounds just like Donald fucking Trump. Same with the lame ‘Canada First’. ‘Warrior Culture - not Woke Culture’ *cringe

[O-tacular]

Originally Posted by Calgarian

Was she actually encouraging foreign interference? suggesting a pause on tariffs until after the election seems like a reasonable thing to say, especially in response to a question.

If you listen to the interview she says she spoke with Trump’s people about doing it just until the election to help the CPC win and that Poilievre is more ‘in sync’ with the direction of Trump’s America (AKA fascism).

There’s tons of Maga supporters in the rank and file conservatives. Just look at our shart of a Transportation Minister Devin Dreeshan:

[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Until the Conservatives tell the Maple MAGAs to take a flying leap, their electability as a national government is highly questionable.

The only reason why they were in the lead before the possibility of a Trumpian fascist takeover of Canada arose is because JT was leading the Liberal Party. JT and his simpering, pandering, SJW, virtue signalling woketarian ways are thankfully now history. The toxicity of JT was frankly radioactive.

Things have changed. Carney is popular, intelligent and has arisen as Captain Canada. PP on the other hand is mini-me Drumpf. The only thing missing is orange face paint.

This election is over.

People should still vote en masse on election day. If Carney wins a majority government, with 90% of the electors casting ballots in the election, boy what a message that would send to Washington...........

This is the most important election of our lifetimes.

We need a adult in charge of the country for a change.

couldn't have said it better myself.

[BlackDog204]

Another MAGA hyena, who claimed that Canada was a Communist state, and he would never step foot in this hellhole. Makes sense he endorse Poilievre.

[O-tacular]

Originally Posted by Truenorth00

Social definition vs. Legal definition.

Screw that traitor.

Such patriotism while the rest of the Premiers and the Prime Minister were meeting to plan on a unified Team Canada approach.









Check out that schoolgirl smile…

[ScreamingViking]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

We need a adult in charge of the country for a change.

[Architype]

Originally Posted by O-tacular

Are they plagiarizing Trump social media posts? PATRIOTIC tax cuts?! Like that sounds just like Donald fucking Trump. Same with the lame ‘Canada First’. ‘Warrior Culture - not Woke Culture’ *cringe

It sounds like a joke written as a parody by AI, but it has "loser" written all over it. Remember what Trump thinks of losers.

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by Architype

It sounds like a joke written as a parody by AI, but it has "loser" written all over it. Remember what Trump thinks of losers.

Trump after the election:

"WELL LITTLE PIERRE. MY MINI ME LOST TO MARK CARNEY, WHO WILL NOT MEET ME FOR SOME STRANGE REASON, MAYBE HE IS AFRAID I WILL MAKE HIM QUIT LIKE GOVERNOR TRUDEAU. THE CANADIAN PEOPLE NEED ME TO RUN, SINCE THAT LOSER CAN'T EVEN DRIVE DOWN THE ROAD ME, KEVIN AND DANIELLE LITERALLY PAVED FOR HIM!!! I'M STILL GOING TO MAKE CANADA THE 51ST STATE, AS SOON AS LITTLE MARCO BRINGS ME MY DIET COKE!! MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!

[elly63]

Are you ok?

[Tvisforme]

Tom Mulcair has an opinion piece up on CTV's website:

Tom Mulcair: Trump’s threat to Canada means this election must be a choice between the Liberals and Conservatives

With the campaign officially started, Canadians are about to experience something more akin to what we see south of the border: a two-party election.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not taking anything away from the NDP, the Green Party, the Bloc, or their supporters.

They work hard, have their own base and promote their vision and ideals. But in a time of existential crisis for Canada as a whole, they’re an afterthought.

Donald Trump’s very real threat to Canada’s economy and sovereignty hovered over Sunday’s election launch. Who has the experience and expertise to deal with that threat? That’s the only question on Canadians' minds right now, it’s what’s called the “ballot question.”

That’s why this is shaping up to be a race between the ruling Liberals and the opposition Conservatives, with little room to spare for the others. If you can’t seriously say you’re going to form a government that can take on Trump, then get out of the way and let the only real contenders have at it.
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It's worth checking out.

[Bcasey25raptor]

I posted this on Twitter

"At times like this I am actually amazed and so proud to be from a country thats this liberal.

In the end progressive Canadians are unifying behind one candidate at just the right time to save our country and I couldn't be more proud of all of you for doing your part."


https://x.com/TheChaosWeeber/status/1904407666748735788

[EnvisionSaintJohn]

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CBC hosted the National from Saint John the last two nights, and tonight will be the last night. They picked Saint John because of its spot a top the tariff impact list.

Some good coverage of Saint John and how the tariffs will impact the city on the second night. Didn’t expect to see this from the CBC.

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by EnvisionSaintJohn

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CBC hosted the National from Saint John the last two nights, and tonight will be the last night. They picked Saint John because of its spot a top the tariff impact list.

Some good coverage of Saint John and how the tariffs will impact the city on the second night. Didn’t expect to see this from the CBC.

The fact that Poilievre has not walked back his intention of defunding the CBC, a Canadian culture institution, and amplify US owned "Canadian" media like The Rebel and Sun News Network, is very telling. It reminds me of what Trump is doing in the United States, with banning the AP, and giving FOX News and other propaganda news networks special privileges.

[Truenorth00]

Originally Posted by Marty_Mcfly

All I ask of us, no matter our political affiliations, is to hold our party leaders to the same standards as the others. I feel like people would be up in arms if Poilievre were skipping a debate during the most crucial election of our lifetimes.

Really? You could have Googled this:

Originally Posted by Marty_Mcfly

I may not agree with TVA charging parties to appear on their network, but the parties, at least the major ones, are more than capable of absorbing those costs; what else were all the years of fundraising for if not this?

I'll say this to Mr. Carney, if you wish to continue as Prime Minister, there are a heck of a lot harder challenges ahead than debating your opponents in French. The debate will be a cakewalk compared to what looms south of the border.

Typical partisan line.

Debates really don't determine how tough someone will be in negotiations. If you think otherwise, you're either a partisan or ignorant.

And I say this as someone who thinks he should do the debate.

I don't know what the right number and mix of debates. But I think it's ridiculous to have Conservatives claim some kind of moral high ground here while refusing to allow media access to their campaign (unlike the competition) and while their guy has a known history of skipping debates.