Canadian Federal Election

[travis3000]

Originally Posted by casper

Sounds like the Conservatives are very concerned about "travel costs" for the campaign. They have decided they don't want the national media on the plane or bus with the leader. Instead they will invite local media at each of the stops and the national media can call in.

Since it is normal for the media to pay their own way and contribute to the travel cost it is weird.

I am certain avoiding hard "independent" questions is not the reason. It is an interesting experiment. On one hand you end up controlling the message and on the other you probably end up less face time.

Sounds like the Liberals are having the media travel with them.

The Conservatives are flush with cash. Money isn't the issue here whatsoever. This has Jenni Bryne written all over it.

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by Hackslack

Bring on another PM from the west!

there is no one qualified just some flip flopper that eats apples and mocks plp

[Innsertnamehere]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

there is no one qualified just some flip flopper that eats apples and mocks plp

Carney is from NWT/AB, though he has spent most of his adult life abroad, and more recently, in Ontario.

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by travis3000

The Conservatives are flush with cash. Money isn't the issue here whatsoever. This has Jenni Bryne written all over it.

its cause they want to control the naritive and they feel best way is to keep the meadia at arms length. has anyone noticed the panic grasping at straws adds they are running atm the pc's are very head cut off atm

[Dartguard]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

This does not make it any better. The virtue signaling and progressive agenda was a nuisance, an annoyance and a distraction. It was divisive because it focused on identity politics and created an "us versus them" attitude that permeated Canadian society. Whatever happened to collectivism and the common good??? It died on the petard of progressive activism. Thanks JT. The existence of PP is largely as a result of JT.

Carney will be different. Not as mean spirited as PP would be. I trust him to blend incremental middle of the road progressive policies along with a positive business agenda.

Good old Canadian centrism....................

Except you have to ask yourself what did Carney promise Guilbault to get him to stay and the Vampire of Canadian politics, Gerry Butts, was at Rideau hall for Carneys investiture. Haven't Butts and Telford done enough to the Ontario and National Fiscal situation? My deep concern with Carney is that he is selling himself as the Adult in the Liberal Party and is an accomplished and maybe too calm technocrat to counter balance the Toddler at 1600.

Fine and dandy but I have the very solid gut feeling that Butts et Al will use Carny and the Trump crisis to really kill off Canadian industries that do not align with their deeply held Climate bias's. The community that these folks live in, think in and hope for does not include using Canada's deep resource base to enhance Canadian's opportunitys but is the crisis of opportunity to enact Climate mitigation dreams. Canadians be damned. Carny, Mark my words, will eventually retire to England.Hmmmm.

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

Carney is from NWT/AB, though he has spent most of his adult life abroad, and more recently, in Ontario.

prolly the most qualified person to run rare we ever get anyone with a resume like his

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by Dartguard

Fine and dandy but I have the very solid gut feeling that Butts et Al will use Carny and the Trump crisis to really kill off Canadian industries that do not align with their deeply held Climate bias's. The community that these folks live in, think in and hope for does not include using Canada's deep resource base to enhance Canadian's opportunitys but is the crisis of opportunity to enact Climate mitigation dreams. Canadians be damned. Carny, Mark my words, will eventually retire to England.Hmmmm.

its the provinces that in the end kill industry. look at the smelter in thompson was set to have 6billion investment interprovincial politics shut it down now we have a mine on verge of shutting down 14yrs later and when it did close we lost the worlds purest nickel was fully eltric facility and was poised to become the worlds cleanest witch woulda made a huge impact on emissions in the world shame

look at the pipeline fight with quebec

its the provinces that kill industry
mb in the 70's changed the laws around mineral management and industry packed up and left in droves for onterio and vancover

[Innsertnamehere]

Originally Posted by Dartguard

Except you have to ask yourself what did Carney promise Guilbault to get him to stay and the Vampire of Canadian politics, Gerry Butts, was at Rideau hall for Carneys investiture. Haven't Butts and Telford done enough to the Ontario and National Fiscal situation? My deep concern with Carney is that he is selling himself as the Adult in the Liberal Party and is an accomplished and maybe too calm technocrat to counter balance the Toddler at 1600.

Fine and dandy but I have the very solid gut feeling that Butts et Al will use Carny and the Trump crisis to really kill off Canadian industries that do not align with their deeply held Climate bias's. The community that these folks live in, think in and hope for does not include using Canada's deep resource base to enhance Canadian's opportunitys but is the crisis of opportunity to enact Climate mitigation dreams. Canadians be damned. Carny, Mark my words, will eventually retire to England.Hmmmm.

Why England? He went there for the bank of england job and returned to work at Brookfield in Toronto immediately afterwards. It's pretty clear to me he was there for the job and the job only.

He spent a huge chunk of his adult life at Goldman Sachs all over the place as well. He has an illustrious finance career which at that level often requires you to move internationally. Whenever his career has taken a step back, he has always returned domestically.

I do share concerns about Guilbault, but he's off the environmental ministry and into the economically unimpactful ministry of culture and identity. Post-election Carney will have a fresh slate of MPs to set a cabinet with, who knows if he even stays on cabinet.

I am hopeful for Carney overall but I want to see his platform. He is signaling a far higher priority on economic measures, but we need more details to see how his government would differ from the Trudeau government on that front which has been a complete and abject failure.

[EnvisionSaintJohn]

Originally Posted by Wigs

I'd like to point out that Poland officially joined the EU in 2004. Phenomenal YoY growth for most years ever since.
Soon it will be a $1 Trillion dollar economy (nominal GDP $USD) while next door Ukraine, roughly of similar population--and not a EU member, has experienced slow to anemic growth for most years by comparison before the war and during any 5, 10, 20 year comparison one wants to make.

Warsaw has become a shining star of not just Central/Eastern Europe but Europe overall. Now that Donald Tusk is Poland's PM they've earned respect back that the PiS party leadership had eroded with Europe.

Canada would be smart to hitch our wagon to that entity in some way if not full EU status.

USA has become a bully and shown their hand under the Trump/MAGA administration.

As Fox News "personality" Laura Ingraham said to Trump in their interview the other day:
"You're tougher with Canada than you are with some of our biggest adversaries"


5 minutes
• Video Link
edit: His only valid point is Canada needs to uphold NATO spending obligations. Most Canadians don't want US dairy with rBST hormones.

ffs, can a single journalist ever ask him why he wants to admit Canada as one single state, instead of 10 states? I've always found this to be the most bonkers part of this nonsense, and I'm surprised he hasn't clarified yet that Canada would be admitted as many states instead of one, giant state.

Canada joining the EU would be infinitely better than joining the US under Trump as a single state. I don't think Trump understands Canadian provinces have far more power and autonomy than US States do.

[Dartguard]

Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

Why England? He went there for the bank of england job and returned to work at Brookfield in Toronto immediately afterwards. It's pretty clear to me he was there for the job and the job only.

He spent a huge chunk of his adult life at Goldman Sachs all over the place as well. He has an illustrious finance career which at that level often requires you to move internationally. Whenever his career has taken a step back, he has always returned domestically.

I do share concerns about Guilbault, but he's off the environmental ministry and into the economically unimpactful ministry of culture and identity. Post-election Carney will have a fresh slate of MPs to set a cabinet with, who knows if he even stays on cabinet.

I am hopeful for Carney overall but I want to see his platform. He is signaling a far higher priority on economic measures, but we need more details to see how his government would differ from the Trudeau government on that front which has been a complete and abject failure.

Carneys Wife is English and the Better halves usually have more than Half of the say in where the Golden years get spent. Then again if Grandchildren show up that determines a lot too.

I still have a wait and see for Mr Carneys ambitions. Election campaigns matter and the coming one more than most.

[samne]

Originally Posted by EnvisionSaintJohn

ffs, can a single journalist ever ask him why he wants to admit Canada as one single state, instead of 10 states? I've always found this to be the most bonkers part of this nonsense, and I'm surprised he hasn't clarified yet that Canada would be admitted as many states instead of one, giant state.

Canada joining the EU would be infinitely better than joining the US under Trump as a single state. I don't think Trump understands Canadian provinces have far more power and autonomy than US States do.

Because he is not serious. He wants better US terms on trade and access to Canada and for us to spend more on defence. This is how he operates. Its offensive, but this is who he is.

"Well if you're not going to be the 51st state, then you should at least be doing so and so since we have unfair trade and we pay for your defence, etc, etc."

[Wigs]

Canada, according to Trump:
"One of the nastiest countries to deal with"

[harls]

Originally Posted by EnvisionSaintJohn

ffs, can a single journalist ever ask him why he wants to admit Canada as one single state, instead of 10 states? I've always found this to be the most bonkers part of this nonsense, and I'm surprised he hasn't clarified yet that Canada would be admitted as many states instead of one, giant state.

It's called American exceptionalism.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by YOWetal

Yes. Total vibe change. I think you were in the voting for PP category in 2024 no? I know I was a soft Con supporter and am now on the fence. ACOttawa BulidIT and a few other anti-Trudeau voices here have been silent lately. I wonder if any of them are now undecided or leaning Liberal.

My favorite was "the US electing Trump will be great for Canada" from the hardcore right wing supporters. Yes it will be...

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by travis3000

The Conservatives are flush with cash. Money isn't the issue here whatsoever. This has Jenni Bryne written all over it.

Media pays their own way on these planes anyway so that issues doesn't even make sense. I think they are paying the LPC $30k/each or something.

Carney will get tons of airtime.

[Taeolas]

Originally Posted by EnvisionSaintJohn

ffs, can a single journalist ever ask him why he wants to admit Canada as one single state, instead of 10 states? I've always found this to be the most bonkers part of this nonsense, and I'm surprised he hasn't clarified yet that Canada would be admitted as many states instead of one, giant state.

Canada joining the EU would be infinitely better than joining the US under Trump as a single state. I don't think Trump understands Canadian provinces have far more power and autonomy than US States do.

Because he lives off the soundbite. If it can't be said in 5 words or less, he won't say it. "Fifty-first state" is a quick and easy jab that he can put in whenever he wants to cause a stir.

If he's forced to expand or explain it, he falls into mumblygook at best and probably would just change the subject to avoid the question.

Plus I'm pretty sure he can't really hold longer/more complex thoughts in his head anyway. Hence why he flip flops so much; he only remembers what the last person he was talking to told him.

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Media pays their own way on these planes anyway so that issues doesn't even make sense. I think they are paying the LPC $30k/each or something.

Carney will get tons of airtime.

I'm sure when the CPC made the announcement about the media, the LPC briefly considered letting the media travel for free. It would be a fairly easy win; but it would probably give the CPC a bit of ammo, claiming the LPC is buying the media. Better for the LPC to keep doing what has been standard for years and bask in the more timely airtime they'll be getting because the media is on hand.

[Marshsparrow]

Originally Posted by Marty_Mcfly

It should be noted that it's typical for the PM to visit the GG on Sundays to kick off an election. HOWEVER if Carney waits until Sunday, the April 28th election date would be off the table.

Since getting the election finished ASAP is of the best interests for the Liberals, I would expect Carney to visit the GG either tomorrow or Saturday.

why is it off the table - minimum 36 day election period - March 23 to April 28 fits.

[Marshsparrow]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Media pays their own way on these planes anyway so that issues doesn't even make sense. I think they are paying the LPC $30k/each or something.

Carney will get tons of airtime.

I'm sure they'll make lots of room for Jones, Musk, Peterson, Rebel, True North...

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

why is it off the table - minimum 36 day election period - March 23 to April 28 fits.

Election calls on a Sunday for a Monday vote is very standard.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

My favorite was "the US electing Trump will be great for Canada" from the hardcore right wing supporters. Yes it will be...

I'm pretty sure a large proportion of the Maple MAGA alt-right supporters secretly want to join the USA anyway.

Traitors.................