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Dale
May 7, 2008, 9:58 PM
They have the latest on Met 3 over on SSC. The developer intends to go ahead and build to the entire 76 story height, but reserves the right to cap the development at 22 stories.

The suspicion is that, if he gets underway, sales will accelerate. Seems that he's way short of the 80% sold his lender presently requires.

brickell
May 8, 2008, 12:15 AM
The big IF is IF he gets underway. I'm not holding my breath, but it's hard for me to imagine they'd cut it down too much. There's too much potential there.

Rebeldon
May 8, 2008, 1:33 AM
I have some experience working with developers on condo projects. It is not uncommon for them to have second thoughts. I recently redesigned a condo building (making it 50% smaller) after getting a permit and breaking ground on the original design.

I sure hope Met 3 goes up all the way.

Dale
May 8, 2008, 1:39 AM
The big IF is IF he gets underway. I'm not holding my breath, but it's hard for me to imagine they'd cut it down too much. There's too much potential there.

I didn't get the impression that t the getting underway part was iffy, just the height part.

noland123
May 13, 2008, 6:47 PM
As for Met 3 ,the lender is looking for 80% sold before he makes the loan to the developer. There are between 600-650 units at Met3 ,so 480-520 would have to be sold before the developer green lights it.

NewAtlantisMiami
May 26, 2008, 1:39 AM
Wikipedia:
"Overall, Miami's skyline is ranked first in the Southeast and third in the United States, after New York City and Chicago.[B] By 2010, Miami is expected to have one of largest skylines in the world. Of the 10 tallest buildings in the city, 2 were constructed in 2007, 6 in 2008, 2 in the 1980's and 1 in 2003. In addition, only 5 of the city's 25 tallest buildings were completed before the year 2000."

brickell
May 26, 2008, 4:17 AM
I didn't get the impression that t the getting underway part was iffy, just the height part.

And it's just a guess on my part, but hard to believe they'd cut their losses by making it so small.

Dale
May 26, 2008, 4:40 AM
And it's just a guess on my part, but hard to believe they'd cut their losses by making it so small.

I agree. I don't see the point.

NewAtlantisMiami
Jun 6, 2008, 3:33 AM
It looks straight down the skyscraper canyon that Brickell Avenue has become and will more so become.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3029/2555422850_da9c41a8a4_o.jpg

NewAtlantisMiami
Jun 9, 2008, 8:50 AM
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NewAtlantisMiami
Jun 9, 2008, 8:53 AM
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Complex01
Jun 9, 2008, 2:47 PM
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Very Nice...

NewAtlantisMiami
Jun 9, 2008, 8:09 PM
:previous:

Very Nice...

I think that is the best pic yet for showing the density coming to Downtown Miami. Just imagine that pic with Met2 and Met3 (if we ever really get it). And the one from above Coconut Grove is just plain stunning.

NewAtlantisMiami
Jun 12, 2008, 8:18 AM
They have the latest on Met 3 over on SSC. The developer intends to go ahead and build to the entire 76 story height, but reserves the right to cap the development at 22 stories.

The suspicion is that, if he gets underway, sales will accelerate. Seems that he's way short of the 80% sold his lender presently requires.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3058/2571676900_428f009381_o.jpg
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Cityseed
Jun 12, 2008, 2:12 PM
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:tup: Sweet rendering. Met 2 will look niiiiice. My fingers are crossed for Met 3. I think the skyline needs 2-3 800+ft office towers sprinkled around the CBD.

NewAtlantisMiami
Jun 13, 2008, 9:06 AM
:tup: Sweet rendering. Met 2 will look niiiiice. My fingers are crossed for Met 3. I think the skyline needs 2-3 800+ft office towers sprinkled around the CBD.

With the new interest and attention brought to Miami by the magnitude of this most recent boom, there is no telling what we might see in the future. We just won't have supertalls as tall as those in New York and Chicago because of the proximity of MIA and FAA height restrictions. :tup:

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Complex01
Jun 13, 2008, 2:05 PM
:tup: Sweet rendering. Met 2 will look niiiiice. My fingers are crossed for Met 3. I think the skyline needs 2-3 800+ft office towers sprinkled around the CBD.

Much agreed. Hopefully it will get them and many more. Very Kewl...

:cool:

NewAtlantisMiami
Jun 15, 2008, 11:24 PM
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bobdreamz
Jun 17, 2008, 3:07 AM
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love this aerial since it shows about 20 towers that didn't exist 5 years ago. Thanks for posting it!

NewAtlantisMiami
Jun 18, 2008, 10:30 PM
It really captures the scale of Icon Brickell. Awesome angle!

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met3dreamer
Jun 23, 2008, 10:27 PM
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MiamiJR
Jun 26, 2008, 3:41 PM
Plans for Villa Magna luxury condominiums revived
By Yudislaidy Fernandez
Development of Brickell's last prime bayfront parcel is on hold after developers scrapped a planned luxury hotel and reverted to high-end condos once the market improves.
Jerome Hollo, vice president of Florida East Coast Realty, said plans now are to revive the luxury condominium concept for Villa Magna on the 2.5-acres at 1201 Brickell Bay Drive. The design is for two 60-story towers totaling 787 units, along with restaurants and retail on ground levels, he said.
The departure of Spanish investors Grupo Pedro Iglesias from the project led to killing the hotel plans and reviving the condo component, Mr. Hollo said. The investors liked the hotel concept, he said, but couldn't secure the capital to participate. "They just weren't in a position to execute this type of project."
Grupo Pedro Iglesias hasn't entirely given up on helping to develop Villa Magna as a hotel, said Juan BartolomĂ© SeguÌ, group stakeholder and project architect. His group has $161 million in capital but needs about 50% more financing to solidify its offer, he said in a phone interview from Palma de Mallorca, Spain.
"It's our star project and we want to continue with it."
Bruno Opt, chief operating officer for the group, said the extra financing is key. "It's a tough time at the moment," he said from Spain.
Miami developer Tibor Hollo originally planned Villa Magna as high-end residential. In September, plans shifted again when he sought city approval for a mixed-use component to feature the hotel, restaurants and retail.
The Hollos said timing of the project will hinge on when the market rebounds.
"It's certainly the best piece of land; any project will do wonderful," Jerome Hollo said. "But it's got to be the right time."

MiamiJR
Jun 26, 2008, 3:43 PM
Blacks fight for housing in Grove renewal
BY DAVID SMILEY
The question has never been whether Grand Avenue's vacant lots and deteriorating buildings would be redeveloped, but when.

The answer may come Thursday.

Miami commissioners will consider giving preliminary approval to the first phase of the massive Grove Village on Grand, which would reshape six blocks of the street that runs through the heart of Coconut Grove's black and Bahamian community.

Meanwhile, community activists are calling for subsidized housing and hoping for the protection afforded other Bahamian communities in South Florida.

''This is a story of survival,'' says Pierre Sands, president of the Village West Homeowners and Tenants Association.

Grove Village, the $300 million vision of Pointe Group Advisors, headed by local businessman Peter Gardner, promises new life to a street that once thrived.

A supermarket would serve an area that currently relies on corner convenience stores. About 170,000 square feet in retail space would replace drug traffic with foot traffic. And sleek apartments, shops and offices would replace old buildings ravaged by hurricanes, time and neglect.

But the sheer size of Grove Village has evoked not only hope, but fear.

''Things are changing everywhere,'' Sands said of his community. ``But it doesn't mean we have to go by the way of the dinosaur.''

Sands' association voted Monday to support the development based on 10 conditions, including a mandate that 20 percent of Grove Village's units be affordable or workforce housing.

Gardner, who said Wednesday he would include some workforce housing, said he has done his best to listen to the community in which he was born and reared. Gardner has surrounded himself with influential locals, including Grove architect Max Strang and Richard Shepard, director of the University of Miami's Center for Urban and Community Design, which has studied development opportunities in the West Grove.

Pointe Group has met often with community groups, participated in a community redevelopment project and joined an umbrella group called Positive Partners. All that, and an agreement that 800 to 1,000 full-time jobs will be available to Grovites, has brought wide support.

NO GUARANTEES

But considering Pointe Group is also buying and razing duplexes and homes on Grand Avenue's side streets and has made no commitment to include affordable housing in Grove Village, some wonder if the black community will be around to enjoy it.

''What is going on here is going to hurt us for the rest of our lives,'' resident William Bellinger, 46, said at a recent public hearing in City Hall.

The neighborhood, once known as the ''Black Grove'' and now Village West, is one of eight communities in a five-year Miami plan to improve economic and housing conditions.

But City Commissioner Marc Sarnoff, who represents the Grove, says the city doesn't have a legal responsibility to demand affordable housing.

And with just two of six blocks before the commission Thursday, Sarnoff said he doesn't know if such a demand makes sense.

''I think it can be done, but I don't know that it can be done in this phase,'' he said. ``But I'll ask the question on the dais.''

That shouldn't stop the community from demanding affordable housing, said Norma Jean Sawyer, executive director of the Bahama Conch Community Land Trust, which has been fighting gentrification in the Key West community of Bahama Village.

''They must say how many affordable units they will provide,'' she said. ``They must give a number.''

Several years ago, Key West allocated $2.5 million toward the development and restoration of affordable homes in neighborhoods targeted for redevelopment.

Sawyer said because the land trust swayed the Keys commission to grant money for land acquisition and affordable housing, it was able to keep a number of native residents in the community of about 3,000.

The 2000 Census counted about 2,700 black residents in the West Grove. Since then, many have moved, and an informal study conducted last year shows many have been replaced by Hispanics.

Gardner says he will include affordable housing in other properties he has bought in the community and is not razing any affordable housing now.

''As far as rental rates that already exist here, I can tell you the same rates will be here,'' he said.

EARLIER RENT INCREASE

According to the Pointe Group, Grand Avenue rents range from $500 to $1,000 per month, plus utilities. Five years ago, some were as low as $400 a month, but those rates rose when a group of developers led by Coral Gables attorney Julio Marrero began buying up Grand Avenue properties with plans to build mixed-use condominiums as high as 12 stories.

Those plans fell through. Now, Gardner says, Marrero and partners have a contract with Pointe Group.

With the Marrero group owning much of the land on Grand Avenue, the Pointe Group is looking for property to expand the vision of the redeveloped Grove.

Accountant Twyman Bentley, 54, who works out of his house in the 3300 block of Florida Avenue, says Gardner's dream dampens his heritage. Bentley says he inherited the home from his parents and hopes to pass it on to his family.

He said the Pointe Group wants to buy his property to build a rental with parking beneath it.

''It's giving the impression that we're being squeezed out here,'' Bentley said.

Though the commission will be considering a part of the project that is two blocks west of his home, Bentley can already see evidence of what could happen to his neighborhood.

On Saturday, he and a few other holdouts stood two doors down from his house, outside the home of Bennie Chapman.

The house next to hers has been sold and is now housing a squatter.

On the next lot, a trackhoe sits where a home once stood. Other homes on the street are missing windows and doors.

The wrecking ball isn't coming, says Chapman, 64, it's already swinging on her street.

''They're destroying us,'' she said.

Urban Sky
Jun 27, 2008, 1:10 AM
atlantis - thanks for all the pictures. i dont get back to miami as often as i like, so its nice to see the city is still there. :)

MiamiJR
Jul 8, 2008, 3:49 PM
Orient-Express, Related to build South Beach hotel
BY DOUG HANKS
Orient-Express will build a hotel in South Beach with the Related Group, which recently scrapped plans for a condominium tower on the oceanfront site.

The $150 million project marks the first new South Florida project in three years for Related, which led the way in Florida's condominium boom before that market hit a severe downturn.

The Miami company recently canceled sales contracts for the planned Viceroy condo-hotel tower on the site at 801 South Pointe Dr. and will be a full partner with Orient-Express in building the new hotel, executives said.

It will include 100 rooms and 28 condominiums selling for $2 million and up, but Related Chairman Jorge Perez said financing the project does not depend on selling any of the condos ahead of time. Owners of the condominiums will have access to hotel services, and the units might eventually function as condo-hotels with owners able to rent them out to guests, Perez said.

''We felt at this point we wanted to do much more of a hotel project than a condominium project,'' Perez said. ``We think the future of both the hotel and real estate businesses is in providing great, great services.''

Related plans two other Orient-Express ventures in Panama City, Panama, and Cartagena, Colombia. The companies described the trio of projects as the launching pad for more expansion, particularly in Latin America.

''Both of us see this as the start of something big for the future,'' said Orient-Express CEO Paul White.

Orient-Express, which bears the name of a luxury train famous for its European treks and the title of an Agatha Christie murder mystery, operates four resorts in the United States and is planning a new hotel in New York, where it owns the restaurant 21.

It considers itself the leading luxury hotel brand in South America, a key market for Related as it looks to grow amid a dismal housing market in the United States.

NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 9, 2008, 1:17 AM
atlantis - thanks for all the pictures. i dont get back to miami as often as i like, so its nice to see the city is still there. :)

You are welcome! :tup: I've been away for a while with computer problems and even forgot my Flickr password to upload pics. Had to create a new account, but really nothing new to post as of yet. I've turned into an absolute terror on some of the other threads posting pics like a kid with a new toy. I hope to one day get my own camera to take my own perspectives of the new Miami skyline, but have other priorities right now.

NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 9, 2008, 1:28 AM
I work for whole foods market and we're supposed to be occupying the base of M3 and on a list of store openings, it still says we're scheduled to open 12/1/2009 FINGERS CROSSED if they dont build they should let us have the space

Two weeks ago when I was up late and bored with nothing to do, I drove down to the Met3 site to see what was going on with it. It was chalked full of tons of construction materials and equipment from end to end. There were bulldozers and even a crane that would be used for driving pilings, so I don't think it is still just a staging ground for Met2. As I've said before, this is a very important building for Miami, and I think there are those behind it who can and will make it happen, if not the original developer. :tup:

Paramount on Edgewater Square just topped out and now looks to be taller than Quantum South. It has given the Miami skyline an even more impressive spread north, and I love the way the architecture came out. I think it really makes a statement to critics of Miami's architecture. :cheers:

NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 9, 2008, 5:06 AM
Here is a recent pic I haven't seen here yet.

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NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 9, 2008, 5:12 AM
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NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 9, 2008, 6:03 AM
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NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 9, 2008, 6:18 AM
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NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 9, 2008, 6:20 AM
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MiamiJR
Jul 9, 2008, 4:05 PM
Greenberg Traurig inks Met2 deal for HQ
Law firm Greenberg Traurig has inked a deal for a new headquarters in downtown Miami at Met2, one of three signature office towers competing for high-end tenants in the city's central business district. The 15-year lease, for 150,000 square feet, is the second major lease to be signed for the three buildings; the first was law firm's Bilzin Sumberg deal at Brickell Financial Centre.

For the law firm, moving from its Brickell Avenue location to Met 2 represents a chance to contribute to the redevelopment of Miami's downtown, said firm president Matt Gorson, a former member of the city's Downtown Development Authority.

Gorson also said that as the first major tenant in the building, they were able to negotiate a good deal. Rents, he said, start in the $30-per-square-foot range (''I won't say anything further.'') That price may represent a softening in the commercial real estate market that's evolved since the economy began slowing down; real estate experts had predicted starting rents in the $40s.

But the new space also gives the law firm a chance to reinvent its workplace, Gorson said. Because of technology and the changing nature of legal practice, lawyers don't need as much space as they used to, he said.

''There has been very little change in the design of law firm space in the last 50 years,'' he said. ''Lawyers are out of the office a lot. They don't need as much space, but they do need more common areas to meet with clients.'' At its current 1221 Brickell location, the firm has 165,000 feet, but now needs just 150,000.

The new office will be entirely wireless, employ fewer secretaries and have movable walls. They will allow more light and air flow, and Gorson said they will apply for LEED (Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design) certification for the interiors.

Met2, part of the $1 billion Metropolitan Miami project, will include a 42-story JW Marriott Marquis hotel plus Marriott International's ultra-luxe Hotel Beaux Arts as well as offices, Tim Weller, vice president of Metropolitan Miami developer MDM Development, said in a statement.

Complex01
Jul 9, 2008, 4:11 PM
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Now that is very nice. Love the dusk shots, some great color...

:tup:

NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 10, 2008, 1:53 AM
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detmi7mile
Jul 10, 2008, 2:58 AM
just lovely

lviz
Jul 10, 2008, 3:28 AM
Pictures taken last week of Asia, Icon and on a flight out of MIA. Click on any thumbnail to enlarge.

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NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 10, 2008, 7:09 AM
Wow! Thanks! I really enjoyed those! They don't lose much detail stretched out on my flatscreen either. I think the second skyline shot is my favorite. And to think most of those buildings weren't even there 3 years ago. It's truly amazing! People in other cities still just don't get what we're talking about. :tup:

photoLith
Jul 10, 2008, 3:52 PM
Miami's skyline is missing something, its huge and pretty dense but theres nothing to look at. There needs to be a few buildings that really stick out. Right now all I see is filler for the most part.

Cityseed
Jul 10, 2008, 4:13 PM
I agree...that and they're all condos which are, by their nature, less impressive than office buildings in my opinion. I think these condo developers' budgets became tighter and tighter and eventually skimped on flashy designs and crowns that were originally planned. Also, I drove through Atlanta this weekend and noticed that most of their buildings have spires and crowns. I thought about how majestic a simple crown or spire can make a building look. Made me wonder where are ours...

brickellresidence
Jul 10, 2008, 4:13 PM
there's only 1 crane in the miami skyline and 10 hidden.

MarkyPants2023
Jul 10, 2008, 5:58 PM
I agree...that and they're all condos which are, by their nature, less impressive than office buildings in my opinion. I think these condo developers' budgets became tighter and tighter and eventually skimped on flashy designs and crowns that were originally planned. Also, I drove through Atlanta this weekend and noticed that most of their buildings have spires and crowns. I thought about how majestic a simple crown or spire can make a building look. Made me wonder where are ours...

Has anyone noticed that they're topping off Mint under the 600 and some-odd feet it was supposed to get? I could be wrong but it looks as if they're starting to top it off and its still shorter than the BOA building.

Absolutely, but I think there needs to be balance. Miami's skyline looks dense but lacks flare (never though I'd say that about Miami). Atlanta's skyline isn't dense at all but has eye catching spires. Both look awkward as a result, IMO. Luckily for Miami, its problem is solved a lot easier than Atlanta's

NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 10, 2008, 6:05 PM
Absolutely, but I think there needs to be balance. Miami's skyline looks dense but lacks flare (never though I'd say that about Miami). Atlanta's skyline isn't dense at all but has eye catching spires. Both look awkward as a result, IMO. Luckily for Miami, its problem is solved a lot easier than Atlanta's

I think greed had a lot to do with it with developers trying to get more bang for their buck with the number of condos they could sell, and therefore, we ended up with more square boxes and less interesting designs then many of us had hoped. Now that the "boom" is over with development now proceeding at a more sane pace with more powerful developers I think not looking to capitalize on the "boom", maybe we will see some of the more interstesting designs later down the road.

VisionMIA
Jul 11, 2008, 1:18 PM
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still looks great to me!

brickellresidence
Jul 11, 2008, 4:30 PM
when is that pic taken.

brickellresidence
Jul 11, 2008, 4:31 PM
that denser than dallas, houston, LA it should be the 3rd best and largest skyline in america.

brickellresidence
Jul 11, 2008, 4:34 PM
but were getting a really beautiful crown and spire (park place,capital).

futuresooner
Jul 11, 2008, 5:33 PM
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nice shot from Grovernor House for sure. That is my new background.

EAINMIAMI
Jul 11, 2008, 6:49 PM
but were getting a really beautiful crown and spire (park place,capital).


"were" as in no longer ? Is Capital dead ?

NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 11, 2008, 7:53 PM
nice shot from Grovernor House for sure. That is my new background.

Is this pic, which one is the Governor House? Is it the shorter one in front of the taller ones on the left? Would love to have that view and that pool.

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futuresooner
Jul 11, 2008, 8:36 PM
Grovernor House is the tallest of the 3, in the middle. That is a helluva view, well worth the cost.

Cityseed
Jul 11, 2008, 9:17 PM
Thats definitely a pimp view...is that little pool for all tenants or does it belong to one of the penthouses? I can imagine myself just lounging in that thing after a hard days work.

NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 12, 2008, 2:45 AM
Thats definitely a pimp view...is that little pool for all tenants or does it belong to one of the penthouses? I can imagine myself just lounging in that thing after a hard days work.

And with a view like that, which is only going to get better in the years to come!:tup:

MarkyPants2023
Jul 13, 2008, 6:58 PM
that denser than dallas, houston, LA it should be the 3rd best and largest skyline in america.

Certainly largest. But it doesn't have a single building that captures my attention. It lacks a Fountain Place (Dallas), Bank of America Center (Houston) or Bank of America Plaza (Atlanta) type of building.

NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 13, 2008, 7:51 PM
Certainly largest. But it doesn't have a single building that captures my attention. It lacks a Fountain Place (Dallas), Bank of America Center (Houston) or Bank of America Plaza (Atlanta) type of building.

These have been posted before, but I think bare reposting here. These are planned for when the market rebounds, so we are not done yet down here.

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NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 14, 2008, 5:20 AM
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bobdreamz
Jul 14, 2008, 5:43 AM
^ like this shot with the Performing Arts center in the foreground. Marquis looks great in its blue glass skin and judging by the flag on the roof I guess it has topped out.

NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 14, 2008, 5:52 AM
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detmi7mile
Jul 14, 2008, 8:41 PM
I love this thread. I like seeing how Miami is transforming and so quickly at that.

NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 15, 2008, 1:52 AM
I love this thread. I like seeing how Miami is transforming and so quickly at that.

I've said this before in this forum and on others, but it bears repeating here. I've studied skyscraper history and architecture as a hobby for over 30 years, and there has never been anything like this. I'm just glad I'm living in the city where it's happening, and I do mean in the actual City of Miami. :tup: :tup: :tup:

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NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 17, 2008, 10:30 PM
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NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 17, 2008, 10:33 PM
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Jul 18, 2008, 12:06 AM
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NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 18, 2008, 12:12 AM
This is a vantage point that I've spoken of before. I just have to capture it at dusk now without the clouds.

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NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 18, 2008, 3:13 AM
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brickell
Jul 18, 2008, 6:04 PM
Well done Q. Keep the pictures coming.

NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 18, 2008, 10:51 PM
Well done Q. Keep the pictures coming.

I'm trying to capture those interesting perspectives that wouldn't make a postcard, but are from angles that skyscraper enthusiasts like you guys would find interesting.

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NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 18, 2008, 11:03 PM
I still haven't figured out why some pics come out and others don't, but I don't stress out about it. I just try to capture as many different and interesting angles as I can and then I see what comes out in the wash.

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NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 18, 2008, 11:21 PM
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demmeri
Jul 18, 2008, 11:25 PM
<-----is extremely jealous (from phoenix).

now that's how you build a city. I can see miami in 2025...manhattan by the beach if it ain't already.

NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 18, 2008, 11:44 PM
I took lots more pictures than this, but this is all that came out. Maybe the camera needed more time to charge up between shootings. I don't know. But here, as you can see, I'm standing in the middle of South Miami Avenue at SW 7th street while the light says "Walk" to capture 1450 Brickell under construction at the end of South Miami Avenue.

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NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 19, 2008, 3:09 AM
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NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 19, 2008, 5:12 PM
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BrandonJXN
Jul 19, 2008, 6:03 PM
Miami is in dire need of a iconic skyscraper. All of these 500 foot tall 'Water-on-the-Beach' towers are extremely boring. OBP should be 1,300 feet tall with a 150 foot tall spire.

Miami has a large skyline but it's extremely boring.

NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 20, 2008, 7:57 AM
Miami is in dire need of a iconic skyscraper. All of these 500 foot tall 'Water-on-the-Beach' towers are extremely boring. OBP should be 1,300 feet tall with a 150 foot tall spire.

Miami has a large skyline but it's extremely boring.

Yes, we know! We've been told time and time again, which makes your statement extremely boring.

miami_sky_freak
Jul 21, 2008, 1:00 AM
Miami is in dire need of a iconic skyscraper. All of these 500 foot tall 'Water-on-the-Beach' towers are extremely boring. OBP should be 1,300 feet tall with a 150 foot tall spire.

Miami has a large skyline but it's extremely boring.

How can you say the Miami skyline is boring, its actually quite beautiful, and if we get a supertall it will be one of the United States most beautiful skyline's i mean common it's already on it's way.

NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 21, 2008, 7:31 AM
How can you say the Miami skyline is boring, its actually quite beautiful, and if we get a supertall it will be one of the United States most beautiful skyline's i mean common it's already on it's way.

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Cityseed
Jul 21, 2008, 1:18 PM
Yes, we know! We've been told time and time again, which makes your statement extremely boring.

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

futuresooner
Jul 21, 2008, 3:01 PM
Stop hatin on density and pristine waterfront!

BrandonJXN
Jul 21, 2008, 6:27 PM
Boring does not mean ugly. Miami's skyline is nice and big but there is nothing that stands out architeture wise.

And is this a photo thread or a development thread? Because no one here is posting anything about specfic projects.

Cityseed
Jul 21, 2008, 7:56 PM
300 is right...lets get some info on the current projects coming up. Any status on the progress of Met 2 and Brickell Financial Center? Has anyone seen any activity on the Met 3 side or the second phase of BFC?

NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 21, 2008, 8:05 PM
Boring does not mean ugly. Miami's skyline is nice and big but there is nothing that stands out architeture wise.

And is this a photo thread or a development thread? Because no one here is posting anything about specfic projects.

Okay, you asked for it! These are all my shots, btw.

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NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 21, 2008, 8:09 PM
300 is right...lets get some info on the current projects coming up. Has anyone seen any activity on the Met 3 side or the second phase of BFC?

For that, I will have to use the Metromover. Not sure when I'll be able to get those shots, but it is a good idea for my next project.

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Jul 22, 2008, 12:35 AM
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miami_sky_freak
Jul 22, 2008, 9:22 AM
Excellent photo's NewAtlantisMiami, keep up the great work man.Its good to see someone down here taking photo's from all different spots in downtown Miami, love it.:tup:

miami_sky_freak
Jul 22, 2008, 9:24 AM
Brickell finacial Center I is gonna look great when its complete.I hope phase II is still a go.

NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 23, 2008, 6:53 AM
Excellent photo's NewAtlantisMiami, keep up the great work man.Its good to see someone down here taking photo's from all different spots in downtown Miami, love it.:tup:

My pleasure! I am also QuantumX from the Brave New Miami on SkyscraperCity.

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NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 23, 2008, 7:31 PM
300 is right...lets get some info on the current projects coming up. Any status on the progress of Met 2 and Brickell Financial Center? Has anyone seen any activity on the Met 3 side or the second phase of BFC?

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NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 23, 2008, 7:48 PM
300 is right...lets get some info on the current projects coming up. Any status on the progress of Met 2 and Brickell Financial Center? Has anyone seen any activity on the Met 3 side or the second phase of BFC?

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Complex01
Jul 24, 2008, 2:39 AM
Great pics NewAtlantisMiami. Thanks for posting. Miami is looking great. I have to say this is just the shot...

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Cityseed
Jul 24, 2008, 2:48 PM
Thanks for the pics...The grounds for BFC II and Met3 still look like staging areas for their predecessors.

JMO_0121
Jul 25, 2008, 12:14 AM
Coming from Chicago, to me downtown Miami is extremely quiet, boring, scary sometimes, and the north part tends to be on the extremely dangerous and ugly side. Still, it amazes me how beautiful the skyline is. So many buildings (not really) that you actually think you are in a real city. The buildings are very modern, yet classical, but very interesting. One thing i dont like is the fact that Miami does not have any "special" building/s. Like Sears and John in chicago or ESB and Crysler in NY. It will be so awesome if Miami does get that one tall tower, it would be something different, no balconies, just glass, and yet the best thing about it is that its a supertall. I have mixed feelings about Miami. It amazes me, yet most of the time, it scares me:haha: but either way we know its behind Chicago and New York, something 10 years ago was a "yea we such a small skyline, we will never go big". Those pics I find here are extremely outstanding, and the weather in Miami always gives you the advantage of getting just the "right" shot every time. Congrats, on a skyline that together with Chicago and New York, just keep on growing.!!!

NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 25, 2008, 1:30 AM
Thanks for the pics...The grounds for BFC II and Met3 still look like staging areas for their predecessors.

You are welcome, and I agree with you in your conclusion. Metromover made for a great spy machine. I couldn't have taken those pics without it.

NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 25, 2008, 1:34 AM
Great pics NewAtlantisMiami. Thanks for posting. Miami is looking great. I have to say this is just the shot...

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Would you believe that is the very first shot I made of my Metromover tour? Would make a great postcard. And the last one in my sequence, the shot of the Marquis from ground level up, is AS GOOD AS IT GETS!

NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 25, 2008, 1:40 AM
Coming from Chicago, to me downtown Miami is extremely quiet, boring, scary sometimes, and the north part tends to be on the extremely dangerous and ugly side. Still, it amazes me how beautiful the skyline is. So many buildings (not really) that you actually think you are in a real city. The buildings are very modern, yet classical, but very interesting. One thing i dont like is the fact that Miami does not have any "special" building/s. Like Sears and John in chicago or ESB and Crysler in NY. It will be so awesome if Miami does get that one tall tower, it would be something different, no balconies, just glass, and yet the best thing about it is that its a supertall. I have mixed feelings about Miami. It amazes me, yet most of the time, it scares me:haha: but either way we know its behind Chicago and New York, something 10 years ago was a "yea we such a small skyline, we will never go big". Those pics I find here are extremely outstanding, and the weather in Miami always gives you the advantage of getting just the "right" shot every time. Congrats, on a skyline that together with Chicago and New York, just keep on growing.!!!

Yes, now that I have my own camera and can create my own powerful images, I am shooting the city my way! I've studied skyscraper architecture and history for over 30 years and have owned several picture books and postcards from great skylines. So I have an idea of what I want to do with a camera and skyscrapers.

NewAtlantisMiami
Jul 25, 2008, 7:37 AM
Thanks for the pics...The grounds for BFC II and Met3 still look like staging areas for their predecessors.

So Cityseed, how do you like the way I've captured the skyline from ground level? I have taken so many pics since I got my Nikon Coolpix last week, I had to create a thread for them. I am Quantum X from the Brave New Miami on SkyscraperCity and the thread is QuantumPX.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=666556&page=3

Cityseed
Jul 25, 2008, 2:00 PM
You've done a great job with those pics. You've really shown how Marquis has come along by the different angles...its a very nice building. But my favorite is the one of the Four Seasons between Axis and Infinity. Nice work.

Atlantan26
Jul 25, 2008, 2:50 PM
Beautiful buildings! But how in the world can they possibly be building in Miami? isnt it extremely overdeveloped?:shrug:

robhut
Jul 25, 2008, 7:43 PM
Well, the buildings that are under construction are part of the building boom, however there's a lot of buildings on hold or cancelled.
And yes I would say that we are overbuilt, but I hope this brings prices down for the people that live her, However, they will end selling at some point.
Probably someone has a better answer this is just my point of view.
I still love to see the cranes up in the air here in
Miami.

mSeattle
Jul 25, 2008, 8:56 PM
Those are some awesome views of Miami!