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Old Posted Mar 8, 2008, 4:45 AM
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Oh come on, if you guys have no idea, at least guess. My guess is solar energy collectors or wind power generators.
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Old Posted Mar 8, 2008, 5:12 AM
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Wind turbines sounds right. It would make sense, being the School of Sustainability and all. There is a type of tail thing at the back that hints at a wind turbine. I should have photographed that.
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Old Posted Mar 8, 2008, 5:16 AM
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In all seriousness...I think those devices could be some sort of atmospheric sensors(sniffers). There you have it, that is my guess.

EDIT...yeah it makes sense that they could be wind turbines
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Old Posted Mar 8, 2008, 5:44 PM
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The shopping center, which was built in 1956, was bought by ASU in 1983 for $5.5 million. It has housed, among other things, a Pic 'n' Save, Tower Records, Ray's ASU Barber Shop, Jam's Cafe, Books Etc. and a grocery store called Stabler's.

Every few months when I was living in Prescott during the 70s and 80s and there was no good record store around, a most important trip for me was to drive down to the Tower Records store in this shopping center and stock up on all the latest records. A huge store filled with music lovers. I thought I was in heaven.

We know Tempe is growing because it takes four Borg Assimilators to subdue the populace. Usually one's enough for a good-sized town.
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2008, 1:41 AM
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No surprise here...

http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/0312abrk-tempewalkingcity.html

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Tempe named Arizona's best walking city
Leeann Skoda
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Mar. 12, 2008 05:15 PM

Tempe has been named the "Best Walking City" in Arizona, and among the top 100 in the nation.

Health publication Prevention Magazine and the American Podiatric Medical Association surveyed major cities across the U.S. to find the "Best Walking Cities." Tempe was ranked 66 among the Top 100 Walking Cities in the country; Yuma and Glendale also earned a spot on that list.

Cities were judged based on criteria that included crime rates, pollution, number of parks and the number of people who walk to work and for exercise.

Among the cities surveyed, Tempe boasted the most people who walk to work, the most mass transit users and the most parks per square mile.

Tempe scores above the national average for use of alternative transportation: walking, bicycling, and transit use, City of Tempe Community Outreach and Marketing Coordinator Tanya Chavez said.

"I think it's a start to becoming a great city," she said of the ranking. "Who doesn't want a city that's environmentally friendly?"

The growth of Tempe's efforts to promote walking is partly due to a dedicated sales tax that went into effect in 1996, Chavez said, that enabled the launch of the Tempe in Motion transportation plan that includes bicycle and pedestrian paths, bus services and the light rail system.

Tempe's senior planner in Transportation Eric Iwersen has worked toward making Tempe more pedestrian friendly for the past 10 years.

He said the work Tempe has done has certainly encouraged residents to walk more. One example of this is the annual city-sponsored Walk to School Day. In October 2007, 8,000 elementary school students and parents participated in the event to promote walking as an environmentally conscious alternative, according to the city's Web site.

Also, Arizona State University's proximity to downtown Tempe creates a high-density area, which is conducive to alternative transportation use, he said.

Prevention Magazine reported that Tempe earned a "walkability" score of 95 out of 100 on the Web site WalkScore.com for its downtown entertainment, shopping and dining.

Iwersen said that the recognition for Tempe is great, but that there is still a lot of work to be done.

"I think we have a long way to go," he said.

Tempe currently has more than 165 miles of bicycle and scenic pathways, and plans for encouraging more pedestrian traffic are underway. Paved walking facilities will be built along the canals and near Rio Salado Parkway and will include lighting, trees and artwork to draw walkers, Iwersen said.

Construction will begin on the Western Canal Multi-use Path in the next two to three months and should be completed by winter 2009, he said.

The ultimate goal for the city, he said, is to make alternative transportation easily accessible. It should be as attractive to walk, bike or bus as it is to drive a car, he said.

"We are trying to make Tempe as modally balanced as possible," he said.

For more information on Tempe bicycle and pedestrian paths, visit the Tempe in Motion Web site at www.tempe.gov/tim. To see how other Arizona cities ranked, check Prevention Magazine's site at www.prevention.com/bestcities.
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So those things on top of the ASU School of Sustainability are infact wind turbines of some sort. I was down there getting lunch and noticed there are now blades installed on them.

her is a pic i got of it...sorry for the bad angle, I was in a hurry. If you look closely you can see the blades.
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675 S Project has started some site prep:



http://www.675south.com/
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This website has an additional flour mill rendering of what the future project may look like. It also makes mention that if they do not start building by Jan of 09 then the city can take the land back. I think it will be tuff to design a cool looking building next to an old mill. It would be cool to see some more designs and ideas


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They seem to have some trouble with the concept of "blocks."
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At 675south, located just 3 blocks west of Mill and a block north of University,
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Mulling the future of the mill

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Feb. 21, 2008 07:08 AM
Until the last batch of flour was shipped out on April 1, 1998, the Hayden Flour Mill had the distinction of being Arizona's oldest continual industrial operation.

For virtually its entire life the mill has been Tempe's most recognized man-made feature.

Since the emptying of the silos and shutdown of the mill because of the inefficiency of its antiquated machinery, it has stood unoccupied.




In the interim, the neglected, fire-ravaged property has been quietly and some might say patiently awaiting its fate.

After a series of recent false starts, plans are under way for the mill's transformation from a forsaken industrial plant into an urban mixed-use venture that promises to assure a healthy future for one of Tempe's most venerable veterans.

Hayden began milling on the site in 1874. Fire destroyed the original adobe and wood structure in 1917.

In an effort to replace the original mill with something more substantial, Hayden enlisted the services of the J.C. Steele Co. to erect a virtually fireproof building. The "cast-in-place concrete post, beam and integral slab construction" was the most up-to-date industrial building technique available.

The size and scale proved so challenging that it remained the biggest project Steele ever built.

A testament to the quality of design, materials and construction is that the mill has survived 90 years of activity, abandonment and fire without so much as a crack in its massive concrete walls.

There is a bit of irony in the fact that although the pioneering 1918 concrete mill is still recognized for its early innovations, it is the silos that people most identify with. And yet they came more than third of century later.

As technology helped agricultural yields increase, the demand for more grain storage space grew. And with post-World War II growth the need for additional capacity became an imperative.

Even though Mesa had a couple of flour mills of its own and even some small silos that dated to the 1920s, Hayden's mill was undoubtedly the largest in the Valley and the most logical site on which to construct the East Valley's tallest structures.

By 1950, plans were under way to build seven pairs of 117-foot silos with a 150-foot grain elevator tower on the south end. Collectively the silos would store an impressive 18 million pounds of grain.

The Mayer-Osborn Co. of Denver was contracted to build the enormous structures.

Following the earlier precedent, the contractor used the most modern method of slip-form concrete construction. In March 1951 they began a remarkable around-the-clock pour.

Eleven days later Tempe had a new skyline.

For the next 36 years the silos towered over all - that is until the 16-story Western Savings Financial Plaza at Alma School and Southern in Mesa opened in 1987.

The silos remained Tempe's tallest until their 2007 eclipse by the nearby 22-story Centerpoint Condominiums.

There has been much community discussion about the future of the silos - and about what can be done with 14 narrow 117-foot tubes.

Although the silos are not included in the first phase of redevelopment plans, suggestions for their reuse include inserting 10 floors that could be condominiums, boutique hotel or offices.

A grain distribution structure atop the silos is likely to be transformed into a bar and restaurant with heart-stopping views.

Although the use may still be undecided, city officials and the developer have each assured that the silos will forever remain Tempe's most identifiable icon.



Jay Mark assists the Tempe Historical Museum with exhibit gallery design and planning for new facilities. Reach him at [email protected].
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This website has an additional flour mill rendering of what the future project may look like. It also makes mention that if they do not start building by Jan of 09 then the city can take the land back. I think it will be tuff to design a cool looking building next to an old mill. It would be cool to see some more designs and ideas


http://www.weknowurban.com/highrise-loft-buildings/Tempe/loft-and-highrise-communities.html
I have been to this website before but not in a while. It looks like they updated their info recently. Anyway, the additional rendering of the flour mill doesn't look any better imo. I still think they need to make a much better design. They better get moving if they only have until January 09! Also, I was looking at some of the other Tempe projects and I noticed there was a rendering of the Monti's project that I hadn't seen before. It looks like it is a new rendering because it has the one tower setback behind the restaurant and it also shows The Gateway project in the background. I think the towers are really nice. Maybe a bit tall for that intersection but still they will look great while driving on the 202 and Tempe will have an awesome skyline! What's everyone else think?

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Flyer84. Thanks for including the pic. That one is a good one. I had not gone to that website in a while but they have updated it nicely. I wonder where they pull that information. I also need to jump on one of their Tempe or Phoenix tours. Sounds like that would be fun. They also have some updated renderings of the Pier project. I need to learn how to post those pics. Anyways, they are starting to excavate the Pier project. A lot of earth movers going to town and they seem to be going full speed. So at least at the moment it appears that will be one of the projects that will actually happen. They are also going to town on the US Air project. That will be cool seeing that building done and the light rail going through one 3rd by the lightrail stop. It would be nice to see some action at the mosaic. I would love a nearby Grocery store. The QVS is laying their foundation. I imagine that will be up soon. Anyways, nice to see some action happening Downtown.
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Best idea ever for what to do with the silos.








Obviously, it's a far from perfect idea. The silos are a little bit too tall for beginning/occasional climbers to have maximum fun, while the walls are too flat for more advanced climbers. They would have to make some substantial changes (as in adding sloped walls somehow) in order to attract people who've climbed before, but I think an indoor-outdoor climbing gym would be awesome on Mill Ave. Tempe isn't known for being a city with a substantial climbing population - Phoenix Rock Gym on University and Dorsey isn't that busy for being right next to ASU - but I think the location would attract a number of people who maybe just don't think about rock climbing as a great activity. Plus the novelty of a rock gym in historic silos - obviously it would have to be pretty friendly to the noobs, but I think there might be enough room in the silos or on site for some bouldering and more intense climbs for the people who climb more regularly and want more involved ascents.
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Obviously, it's a far from perfect idea. The silos are a little bit too tall for beginning/occasional climbers to have maximum fun, while the walls are too flat for more advanced climbers. They would have to make some substantial changes (as in adding sloped walls somehow) in order to attract people who've climbed before, but I think an indoor-outdoor climbing gym would be awesome on Mill Ave. Tempe isn't known for being a city with a substantial climbing population - Phoenix Rock Gym on University and Dorsey isn't that busy for being right next to ASU - but I think the location would attract a number of people who maybe just don't think about rock climbing as a great activity. Plus the novelty of a rock gym in historic silos - obviously it would have to be pretty friendly to the noobs, but I think there might be enough room in the silos or on site for some bouldering and more intense climbs for the people who climb more regularly and want more involved ascents.
It's funny, just before I moved (for school) away from Tempe, 4 of my friends started to rock climb. I don't know if it is catching on or not, but there are people willing to start. Something as visible as the Silos would park more interest I bet.
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I think the visibility factor would help attract people. The one thing about rock climbing is that as easy as it is to start doing, it's way easier to stop doing it. It's fun though.
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Andrew - that is a great idea. You could even have different levels within the different silos themselves. The indoor ones can be airconditioned and the outdoor ones could be used Sprint/Fall/Winter. It would also add another entertainment choice to the lake area. There is sailing, biking, marathons and a climbers Gym would be a great addition. Plus you could still add the shops/resturants around the place. Or you could make the whole thing just a sports complex and add a smaller gym to it. Or even diversify and create a alternative sports gym that caters to UFC type of training or a boxing ring. These could work in conjunction with the climbing walls. Plus they could still make the condos once the market turns around (eg. 3-5 years hopefully)...
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Obviously, it's a far from perfect idea. The silos are a little bit too tall for beginning/occasional climbers to have maximum fun, while the walls are too flat for more advanced climbers. They would have to make some substantial changes (as in adding sloped walls somehow) in order to attract people who've climbed before, but I think an indoor-outdoor climbing gym would be awesome on Mill Ave. Tempe isn't known for being a city with a substantial climbing population - Phoenix Rock Gym on University and Dorsey isn't that busy for being right next to ASU - but I think the location would attract a number of people who maybe just don't think about rock climbing as a great activity. Plus the novelty of a rock gym in historic silos - obviously it would have to be pretty friendly to the noobs, but I think there might be enough room in the silos or on site for some bouldering and more intense climbs for the people who climb more regularly and want more involved ascents.
Actually, you're wrong. The Valley has a large climbing community. Up until a couple of years ago, when the British mining company (can't remember their name) bought the land of what we climbers refer to as Devil's Canyon or Queen Creek, the area hosted one of the largest bouldering competitions in the country. There are multiple climbing spots in and around the Valley: Pinnacle Peak, Look-out Mountain, Camelback, McDowel Mountains, Superstition Mountains, Queen Creek (not the suburb, it's just east of Superior), and to a lesser extent South Mountain and Papago. Although, I do like your idea. One major issue is that you would have to cool the silos, because no one will "climb" (I cringe using the word when talking about indoor training gyms) in a concrete furnace...
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Phoenix is a huge climbing town. I know a couple of friends who do this regularly. So many places in the valley, not to mention the rest of the state and the southwest.

Probably not too many rock gyms, because there is simply no need for them. Year-around weather and plenty of climbing options have something to do with this.
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^^^^ I guess that's true. I guess I just based my statement on the fact that the none of gyms I've been to seem hugely popular, which is probably based on the presence of so many good places to climb outdoors. I think if you looked at it per capita though, Phoenix doesn't have that many climbers - compared to some other cities.
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BTW most climbers I know can't stand rock gyms. They're for newbs and birthday parties...

For about 10 years or so me and my climbing buddies would get out 1-2 days a week. Since I graduated from college (about 3 years ago) that's been toned down to about once a month or so. As Vertex mentioned there are tons of places within a few hours drive, and most can be climbed at year round. I know in places where the weather isn't as nice climbers use gyms much more frequently.
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