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urbanight93 · #**1441** Posted **Jan 11, 2024, 3:44 PM**

This could be a blessing in disguise as JRG's portfolio looked rather uninspired / suburban... Perhaps a food hall showcasing local restaurants from across the City is better suited here.

I'm thinking something similar to Chef's Hall in Toronto, which is very successful with the office crowd and brings in a variety of popular restaurants from across town. Great bustling energy and food / drink options available.

https://www.chefshall.com/food-drink

Vin · #**1442** Posted **Jan 11, 2024, 8:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by jollyburger

Lots of new photos? in this DH article.

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/lobl...r-opening-date

This converted heritage warehouse-mall looks awesome. We need more buildings of such scale to be built in downtown Vancouver and its surroundings.

griswold · #**1443** Posted **Jan 11, 2024, 8:49 PM**

I remember seeing plans to do a similar buildup on top of the historic Hudson’s Bay building. Does anyone have any updates on that project?

jollyburger · #**1444** Posted **Jan 11, 2024, 10:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by griswold

I remember seeing plans to do a similar buildup on top of the historic Hudson’s Bay building. Does anyone have any updates on that project?

It's being discussed in the Downtown thread

jollyburger · #**1445** Posted **Feb 7, 2024, 12:27 AM**

(old news)

officedweller · #**1446** Posted **Feb 7, 2024, 12:59 AM**

The directory for The Post has no mention of the food court:

https://www.thepostvancouver.com/directory

Jimbo604 · #**1447** Posted **Feb 7, 2024, 5:31 AM**

Our favourite source, DH had an article on Feb 2nd:

Src: https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/flag...pens-vancouver

Flagship Loblaws City Market opens to big lineups in Vancouver
Megan Devlin, Amir Ali Feb 2 2024, 8:17 am

"Loblaws Flagship City Market has finally opened at Amazon’s The Post facility in downtown Vancouver, and people were out in full force.

The first 1,000 people to show up received swag bags, which Daily Hive learned was part of the reason why the lineups were as long as they were.

A brand-new Starbucks also opened inside The Post."

Has anyone had a chance to visit?

jollyburger · #**1448** Posted **Feb 7, 2024, 6:00 AM**

A few guys went by and posted in the retail thread:

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...4#post10136234

LeftCoaster · #**1449** Posted **Feb 7, 2024, 11:17 PM**

I went by on Tuesday. If you've been to a Lowlaw's City Market before, you've been to this one. Its a good grocery store, but that's it, a grocery store. Nothing remarkable.

Vin · #**1450** Posted **Feb 8, 2024, 7:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

I went by on Tuesday. If you've been to a Lowlaw's City Market before, you've been to this one. Its a good grocery store, but that's it, a grocery store. Nothing remarkable.

It is impressive only because downtown Vancouver will never see the likes of such a massive indoor retail space that the old post office/distribution centre could provide. Restrictions make sure that such new developments go elsewhere. The fact that such a grocery store can even exist in downtown Vancouver itself makes it remarkable, and that you actually went to check out speaks volumes.

djmk · #**1451** Posted **Feb 8, 2024, 7:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vin

It is impressive only because downtown Vancouver will never see the likes of such a massive indoor retail space that the old post office/distribution centre could provide. Restrictions make sure that such new developments go elsewhere. The fact that such a grocery store can even exist in downtown Vancouver itself makes it remarkable, and that you actually went to check out speaks volumes.

you know, other than IGA (x2), Urban fare, Fresh Street, Nesters (x2), Choices, T&T, Costco....

Vin · #**1452** Posted **Feb 8, 2024, 8:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by djmk

you know, other than IGA (x2), Urban fare, Fresh Street, Nesters (x2), Choices, T&T, Costco....

Those claustrophobic spaces can't compare with the size and girth of City Market at the Post: not even close. They don't even have a grand public foyer with a ceiling at least 4 storeys tall, and have enough room for a large food hall, multiple retail units, etc.

The kind of new downtown development I am referring to is similar to this:
https://thewelltoronto.com/eat/wellington-market/
(It is new, by the way: not a renovated 60s-era building)

Changing City · #**1453** Posted **Feb 8, 2024, 11:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vin

Those claustrophobic spaces can't compare with the size and girth of City Market at the Post: not even close. They don't even have a grand public foyer with a ceiling at least 4 storeys tall, and have enough room for a large food hall, multiple retail units, etc.

The kind of new downtown development I am referring to is similar to this:
https://thewelltoronto.com/eat/wellington-market/
(It is new, by the way: not a renovated 60s-era building)

The City Market doesn't feel any bigger than the West End Safeway stores. The foyer is so far unimpressive - an empty box space full of escalators (some not working), and a disappointing Starbucks kiosk. It might improve when the other restaurants/coffee shop that have signed up open. There is no food hall operator yet - so we'll have to wait on an announcement about that. Are there other retail units, or tenants? I haven't seen anything announced.

LeftCoaster · #**1454** Posted **Feb 8, 2024, 11:33 PM**

There is nothing in planning that prohibits a new build of the scale and design of what was built in the Post. What does prohibit it is project economics. The Well is an interesting one, if they could redo it they would not have built that expansive retail concourse, not accretive whatsoever. That is straight from the horse's mouth btw.

Also I went to check out the Post because it's my business to visit and understand what is being built in Vancouver. I have visited nearly every notable new development in Vancouver and most in the burbs too... That and I was hungry.

GenWhy? · #**1455** Posted **Feb 9, 2024, 12:26 AM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

There is nothing in planning that prohibits a new build of the scale and design of what was built in the Post. What does prohibit it is project economics. The Well is an interesting one, if they could redo it they would not have built that expansive retail concourse, not accretive whatsoever. That is straight from the horse's mouth btw.

Also I went to check out the Post because it's my business to visit and understand what is being built in Vancouver. I have visited nearly every notable new development in Vancouver and most in the burbs too... That and I was hungry.

"Why are you photographing the HVAC system?"

"Oh no reason at all!"

officedweller · #**1456** Posted **Feb 9, 2024, 12:39 AM**

I don't mind the empty foyer at the Post - it reminds me of the large volume of the former Post Office main counter hall. That may be the intent. They've installed some of the hexagonal relief panels along the walls in the foyer to reference the original Post Office hall. There's the office lobby at the Homer & Georgia corner, and probably a restaurant space fronting Georgia with a patio at the top of the steps, so I doubt that there's another large volume space in the renovated building that can reference the feel of the original Post Office hall.

The CityMrket space is also broken up by a chunk in the middle that isn't consumer retail space (could be backroom storage or building infrastructure), so the store space doesn't seem expansive (like a Costco or Wal-Mart). It's also painted in dark colours to close in the space.

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/the-...arket-quadreal

SpongeG · #**1457** Posted **Feb 9, 2024, 1:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by Changing City

The City Market doesn't feel any bigger than the West End Safeway stores. The foyer is so far unimpressive - an empty box space full of escalators (some not working), and a disappointing Starbucks kiosk. It might improve when the other restaurants/coffee shop that have signed up open. There is no food hall operator yet - so we'll have to wait on an announcement about that. Are there other retail units, or tenants? I haven't seen anything announced.

there is a Brazilian steakhouse, their first location in Canada, they have multiple locations in the USA. It looked to be geti+ting worked on when I walked past in December.

Vin · #**1458** Posted **Feb 9, 2024, 1:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

There is nothing in planning that prohibits a new build of the scale and design of what was built in the Post. What does prohibit it is project economics. The Well is an interesting one, if they could redo it they would not have built that expansive retail concourse, not accretive whatsoever. That is straight from the horse's mouth btw.

Also I went to check out the Post because it's my business to visit and understand what is being built in Vancouver. I have visited nearly every notable new development in Vancouver and most in the burbs too... That and I was hungry.

It has been mentioned many times: new developments that do not meet the required densities, especially taller towers due to zoning or Viewcone restrictions, discourage developers to put large podium spaces for retail and other commercial uses.

For the Well, that's what they planned and it is impressive. Like it or not, it is now a new landmark in the south Spadina neighbourhood.

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Originally Posted by Changing City

The City Market doesn't feel any bigger than the West End Safeway stores. The foyer is so far unimpressive - an empty box space full of escalators (some not working), and a disappointing Starbucks kiosk. It might improve when the other restaurants/coffee shop that have signed up open. There is no food hall operator yet - so we'll have to wait on an announcement about that. Are there other retail units, or tenants? I haven't seen anything announced.

You just said it: The Post has potential to grow. Not so much for the West End Safeway stores.

Vin · #**1459** Posted **Feb 9, 2024, 1:31 AM**

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Originally Posted by SpongeG

there is a Brazilian steakhouse, their first location in Canada, they have multiple locations in the USA. It looked to be geti+ting worked on when I walked past in December.

Absolutely. There is also a 35,000 sqft Evolve Strength fitness gym on the third level, a smoothie/bowl bar Oakberry, Deville Coffee and Gong Cha opening up in this year.

We shall see who will take over the Food Hall space.

Dailyhive reported this: "The single largest retail space addition to downtown Vancouver in more than two decades officially opened to the public late last week at The Post".

GenWhy? · #**1460** Posted **Feb 9, 2024, 2:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by Vin

You just said it: The Post has potential to grow. Not so much for the West End Safeway stores.

I agree, in as much that to become a "Post-like development" you'd need to own and secure a whole city block including the lane. That's a hard feat to do - especially in the West End where existing rentals exist. It becomes such a beast. The City is usually not cool with selling alleys or a portion. it becomes too much of a lengthy and expensive process to endure.

You see this with the Point Grey Safeway redevelopment. big grocery stores are so hard to build around due to the space they demand, loading, parking, access, etc. You need a whole city block to do it right, based on how these chains want to design their stores.