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Old Posted Nov 6, 2019, 3:35 AM
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At least with the number of people moving into the area, they will bike a lot more so the bike lanes over the Burrard Bridge will get a lot more use. I like the idea of bring back the streetcar and or building out the line on Arbutus as there is a lot of growth coming and a line along Arbutus may help to distribute commuting patterns a little.
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As Senakw, the name of the project, sits within the reserve’s boundaries, the First Nation is able to fully exercise its rights and construct a redevelopment without having to follow the City of Vancouver’s zoning and years-long application and review process. It aligns with the city’s much-touted policy of reconciliation.

But they will still need to negotiate with the municipal government and regional district for road and utilities connections.

If all goes as planned, master planning and detailed design work will continue throughout 2020, and construction could begin in early 2021 for a full completion within just five years.
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Some commercial spaces are also planned on the ground level, although the precise mix of retail, restaurants, and other forms of commercial development, potentially some offices, have yet to be determined.
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Khelsilem says the First Nation is looking to start a conversation with the municipal government to extend the route of the future Arbutus Greenway streetcar towards Senakw.

The city’s master plan for the streetcar currently does not call for a span that serves the area, and city staff last year recommended disposing of the former railway right-of-way, selling it back to Canadian Pacific Railway for $1.00. But the planned density, coupled with Concord Pacific’s long-term plan of redeveloping their old Molson Coors brewery property, located immediately south of Senakw, could warrant a streetcar connection.
Source: https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/squa...nakw-kitsilano


I do hope the final plan for ground-level commercial uses will be substantial and make a meaningful contribution to ubanity in the currently sleepy area.
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I do hope the final plan for ground-level commercial uses will be substantial and make a meaningful contribution to ubanity in the currently sleepy area.
What would be the point of a retail strip here? Not easy to get to and no through roads. Unless there is some screamingingly good deal on rents because of the FN ownership structure it would be a tough slog for any retailer.
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What would be the point of a retail strip here? Not easy to get to and no through roads. Unless there is some screamingingly good deal on rents because of the FN ownership structure it would be a tough slog for any retailer.
6000 new customers?
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Looks good! I hope the squamish nation does well with this project!
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^^ Yeah someone trying to compare them to projects... needed a good laugh this morning.
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History repeats itself and in the past they have not connected but have built separate infrastructure. The project beside the ferry in Tsawwassen put its own system in. Was in court for years against Delta and gvrd. I also believe the mall is on its own system
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Is it too early to share this to the Canadian Proposals thread?
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Ya downtown location and all the water views and the mountains are closer.
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Would love to see who will be the financial partner that will be putting 1.5 plus billion dollars on the table and not owning any of the property.
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Would love to see who will be the financial partner that will be putting 1.5 plus billion dollars on the table and not owning any of the property.
It's in the article. Westbank is taking 50% of profits and financing construction.
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It's in the article. Westbank is taking 50% of profits and financing construction.
Developers use other peoples money to build. So they will be creating a LLP with them being the front for the partners. SO who is the money behind the project?
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Developers use other peoples money to build. So they will be creating a LLP with them being the front for the partners. SO who is the money behind the project?
A bank? Why is this different than any other large development?
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Tallest tower 56 floors. No podiums and only 10% of units will have parking.

I wonder if any of these will block any viewcones, rendering them void?
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Tallest tower 56 floors. No podiums and only 10% of units will have parking.

I wonder if any of these will block any viewcones, rendering them void?
The only viewcone that it might effect is a sliver of #20.1, which is based from the intersection of Granville and Broadway





https://vancouver.ca/home-property-d...cted-view.aspx
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If that's the only view cone that might be affected, then would a view cone piercing tall tower (56 floors?) create an opportunity for other new (and even taller) towers in it's view cone shadow in the West End?





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The only viewcone that it might effect is a sliver of #20.1, which is based from the intersection of Granville and Broadway





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If that's the only view cone that might be affected, then would a view cone piercing tall tower (56 floors?) create an opportunity for other new (and even taller) towers in it's view cone shadow in the West End?
It's called precedent. If it's actually 56 stories (unlikely, but still), that would incentivise more high-rises that at least make the 56 story not seem out-of-place.
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It's called precedent. If it's actually 56 stories (unlikely, but still), that would incentivise more high-rises that at least make the 56 story not seem out-of-place.
mcminsen was asking specifically whether any of the taller buildings in the Squamish plan would create something called a viewcone shadow.

A viewcone shadow is created when a tall building intrudes into a viewcone because it either was built before the viewcone was enacted by the city or, as in this case, because the city has no jurisdiction to stop it. Such buildings have ramifications for future proposals that lie further in the distance. Any future proposal further in the distance that exceeds the viewcone limit but cannot actually be seen by someone standing at the viewcone's point of origin because the original viewcone-intruding building blocks the viewer's line of sight is said to fall within the original building's viewcone shadow. Since a new proposal of this kind would not actually obstruct any more of the protected view that has not already been obstructed by the original viewcone-intruding building, city policy generally allows the new proposal to be considered notwithstanding that it technically exceeds the viewcone limit.
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Leave it to the First Nations to finally do something right in this City. This will be the most significant near-downtown development that Vancouver will be seeing since the start of this Millennium.

Everything on my wish list is here! Amazing.

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Tallest tower 56 floors. No podiums and only 10% of units will have parking.

I wonder if any of these will block any viewcones, rendering them void?
I wish all of them do, and that they bulldoze through the process by disregarding them.
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