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The Portland fare is actually $86/month for all zones.
For 2 zones (which covers all of downtown & all inner city neighborhoods) it's $75/month.

The only mode of transportation that isn't covered under that fare is our aerial tram & even that is under the authority of TriMet.
The aerial tram is covered in the monthly pass cost (link). But it's not a part of TriMet.

One thing that is not included in TriMet's monthly pass is Vancouver, WA's public transit system, C-Tran. But C-Tran does offer a pass for $105 that includes all of its buses plus all of TriMet (not sure if the aerial tram is included in that).

Anyway, back to San Francisco...
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PLEASANTON — Residents can voice their opinion today on nine possible routes to extend BART service into Livermore.

A public hearing will be held at 6:30 p.m. today in the city council chambers, 200 Old Bernal Ave.

In a draft environmental report released in November by BART, there are nine possible routes being considered in this very early planning stage. Five of the routes would have tracks leave the median of Interstate 580 near El Charro Road and cut through the east side of Pleasanton on land that set to house the long-awaited Staples Ranch project.

Staples Ranch is a 124-acre site at the junction of I-580 and El Charro Road. Among the elements to be included in the development is a 45-acre senior continuing care facility, a 37-acre auto mall, 11 acres of retail, a 17-acre community park that would include a 141,679-square foot indoor ice skating facility and a 5-acre neighborhood park.

BART has held two previous public hearings in Livermore, but added the Pleasanton meeting at the request of City Manager Nelson Fialho. Fialho sent a e-mail to BART project manager Malcolm Quint in November after finding out about the routes that cut through Pleasanton.

Pleasanton city officials have said they support extending BART service to Livermore, but only with plans that keep it on the freeway median.

The five routes that cut through east Pleasanton all deviate from Interstate 580 just before El Charro Road and head through Pleasanton and then east at Stanley Boulevard and into downtown Livermore. Three of the routes go through downtown Livermore and end at a station near Greenville Road, while the two other alternatives end at stations at Isabel Avenue and Stanley Boulevard or in downtown Livermore.

The BART extension could take from 10 to 25 years and cost from $1.12 billion to $3.8 billion, depending on which route is chosen.

The deadline for written comments to be submitted on the plan was also extended at the request of Fialho and ends Jan. 21, the same date that BART will hold its final public hearing in Livermore.

Robert Jordan covers Dublin and Pleasanton, contact him at 925-847-2184.

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Im gonna have to side with Pleasanton on this one. Keep BART along 580 just like it is along 24. Its probably cheaper, will cause far less of a construction headache for residents and you wont have to chop up neighborhoods-plus many of Pleasanton's ritziest neighborhoods would fight tooth and nail and this would delay or even nix the project altogether.

Especially if BART is going to go thru Ruby Hill, which is fast becoming NorCal's version of Westlake Village.
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Here's a map of proposed BART lines to Livermore.


You can zoom closer here...
http://barttolivermore.org/files/fil...ternatives.pdf
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Well, this article is from a few days ago, so its not technically 'today'

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Oakland begins BRT meetings today

Tonight, the City of Oakland will kick off a series of community meetings about AC Transit's proposed BRT system.

Bus Rapid Transit, or BRT, is a often described as light rail without the rails. In BRT systems, buses run in a dedicated lane to ensure speed and reliability, so the bus does not risk getting delayed in traffic. Passengers board the buses from raised platforms level with the bus door, and purchase tickets in advance from fare machines at the station, allowing them to board and exit the bus on any door, without standing in line to pay.

AC Transit is proposing a BRT line that will run from downtown Telegraph Avenue from Berkeley, then through downtown Oakland, and then up East 14th to San Leandro. As part of the planning process, each City that will host part of the BRT line must identify their preferred street design, route, and station locations.

The meetings being held over the next few weeks give Oakland residents an opportunity to weigh in on these questions. And with seven meetings to choose from, everyone should be able to find at least one that fits into their schedule:

Monday, January 11th: 6-8 PM, Fruitvale Senior Center, 3301 E. 12th Street, Ste. 201

Tuesday, January 12th: 6-8 PM, Eastside Arts Alliance, 2277 International Boulevard

Thursday, January 21st: 6-8 PM, East Oakland Youth Development Center, 8200 International Boulevard

Tuesday, January 26th: 6-8 PM, Faith Presbyterian Church, 420 49th Street

Wednesday, January 27th: 11 AM - 1 PM, Oakland City Hall, Hearing Room 2, 1 Frank Ogawa Plaza

Wednesday, January 27th: 5-7 PM, Oakland City Hall, Hearing Room 4, 1 Frank Ogawa Plaza

Thursday, January 28th: 6-8 PM, St. Louis Bertrand Church, 1410 100th Avenue

More information on the BRT project can be found at Oakland's BRT website and from AC Transit.

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Im gonna have to side with Pleasanton on this one. Keep BART along 580 just like it is along 24. Its probably cheaper, will cause far less of a construction headache for residents and you wont have to chop up neighborhoods-plus many of Pleasanton's ritziest neighborhoods would fight tooth and nail and this would delay or even nix the project altogether.

Especially if BART is going to go thru Ruby Hill, which is fast becoming NorCal's version of Westlake Village.
The question is really whether downtown Livermore should be a destination. If so, leaving the 580 median will be necessary, and there could potentially be some good traffic heading out to Livermore, from Pleasanton/Dublin especially. If not, I question the need to extend the line any further. Just build a bigger parking garage in Dublin. It's not like any of the capacity problems on 580 are between Livermore and Pleasanton - they're all east of Livermore or west of Pleasanton. I'm not big on spending billions just to give a few thousand people in Livermore a ten minute drive to the parking garage rather than a 20 minute drive. Without a station in a walkable area of some type (meaning that station is a destination), the extension is merely adding a couple more park and rides.

I have many problems with the San Jose extension, but at least it is adding some actual destinations.
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The question is really whether downtown Livermore should be a destination. If so, leaving the 580 median will be necessary, and there could potentially be some good traffic heading out to Livermore, from Pleasanton/Dublin especially. If not, I question the need to extend the line any further. Just build a bigger parking garage in Dublin. It's not like any of the capacity problems on 580 are between Livermore and Pleasanton - they're all east of Livermore or west of Pleasanton.
I've never been to or seen "beautiful downtown Livermore". Anybody got any pictures so we can understand this issue? What do the neighborhoods to be served look like? Are they just typical suburbia or is there any density (or possibility of transit-related development) to them?

I do disagree that there are no congestion problems on 580 between Livermore and Pleasanton. When I travel that stretch, usually early on a Saturday evening, it's darned heavy traffic though not heavy enough to go bumper to bumper. I can only imagine during rush hour on weekdays though.
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I've never been to or seen "beautiful downtown Livermore". Anybody got any pictures so we can understand this issue? What do the neighborhoods to be served look like? Are they just typical suburbia or is there any density (or possibility of transit-related development) to them?
I can see the lawsuits now. The proposed path if BART were to actually go into Livermore crosses near several very expensive housing developments. Think faux tuscany complete with vineyards. Not to mention Lawrence Livermore Labs is right there too.

As for Downtown Livermore,
its actually become a bit trendy.




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I do disagree that there are no congestion problems on 580 between Livermore and Pleasanton. When I travel that stretch, usually early on a Saturday evening, it's darned heavy traffic though not heavy enough to go bumper to bumper. I can only imagine during rush hour on weekdays though.
Its really bad. 580 congestion has been written about in the NYT its so bad.

I personally would rather see BART ring the bay and go out to surrounding counties than an HSR from NorCal and SoCal.
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Has anyone looked into the amount of money wasted, the inefficiency, and the logistical problems associated with having so many separate transit agencies in the Bay Area? I can't imagine that they communicate much with each other leading to scheduling conflicts. Further, they probably duplicate resources unnecessarily such as routes, equipment, down to administrative personnel. Then there's the problems of branding and the public's familiarity with the varying systems (Muni, BART, AC Transit, SamTrans, Golden Gate Transit, etc...) Not everyone is as enthusiastic or comfortable figuring out how to use these systems as many people on this forum. I'd really be curious to see how much could be saved and how much more comfortable people would feel if at least all of the light rail and buses were operated under one company?
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I do disagree that there are no congestion problems on 580 between Livermore and Pleasanton. When I travel that stretch, usually early on a Saturday evening, it's darned heavy traffic though not heavy enough to go bumper to bumper. I can only imagine during rush hour on weekdays though.
Oh, I didn't mean that it was free-flowing. However, there are no bottlenecks between Livermore and Pleasanton. Unless you're taking people off from going over Altamont Pass (which this doesn't do) or from going between Dublin and Oakland (which this does not do, since anyone can currently jump off the freeway in Dublin and park there) or going north/south on 680 (which this does not do), you're not really doing much to quell congestion.

If there is a valid destination station being built, the argument can be that you're linking places that need to be linked. If you're simply building another park and ride station, I think you need either A. an argument that it will decrease congestion at a current bottleneck or B. an argument that current stations/parking structures are at or near capacity, or will be soon. Neither is even remotely the case, and I find it hard to believe that there is any amount of ridership looking to go between a freeway median station in Pleasanton or Dublin and a freeway median station in Livermore OR that there is a large amount of potential ridership from people in Livermore who WON'T use BART now with the drive to the parking structure in Pleasanton/Dublin, but WILL with a parking structure in Livermore.
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Oh, I didn't mean that it was free-flowing. However, there are no bottlenecks between Livermore and Pleasanton. Unless you're taking people off from going over Altamont Pass (which this doesn't do) or from going between Dublin and Oakland (which this does not do, since anyone can currently jump off the freeway in Dublin and park there) or going north/south on 680 (which this does not do), you're not really doing much to quell congestion.
Seems to me that taking BART over the Altamont Pass and into Tracy would be a much better part of their plan for expansion. The number one destination of drivers on 580 is the Tri Valley anyway and most large office parks have free shuttles to and from BART stations.
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BART Ponders Raising Transbay Surcharge
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Friday, January 15, 2010

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...MNEF1BIDIJ.DTL


A BART train heads into the tunnel in West Oakland that leads to the Transbay Tube. That ride might cost more when bridge tolls go up in July, under a proposal to raise the surcharge to help close the transit district's budget gap. Photo: Michael Macor / The Chronicle


With the cost of crossing the Bay Bridge during peak commute hours likely to climb by $2 on July 1, some BART directors think the time is right to add a 10-cent surcharge to each trip through the Transbay Tube to help bail out the struggling transit agency.

BART directors Tom Blalock of Fremont and James Fang of San Francisco suggested tacking on the surcharge on trips beneath the bay during a three-hour discussion Thursday on how to close a $25 million gap for the current fiscal year.

BART fares for trips beneath the bay already include an 89-cent surcharge. The additional fee would generate about $4.7 million a year, said General Manager Dorothy Dugger.

"We know tolls are going up July 1," said Blalock, arguing that it would make sense to increase BART's transbay tariff simultaneously. "What if we made a pre-emptive strike? I don't want to see us start considering it after the toll increase takes place."

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By Mike Rosenberg
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Posted: 01/13/2010 12:00:00 AM PST
Updated: 01/13/2010 10:22:30 AM PST

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* Running on Empty:
Bay Area Transportation in Trouble

Like many Bay Area residents who rely on public transit to get out around, Redwood City resident Trevor Irwin feels helpless when fares rise and service levels drop.

Irwin, who pays $750 monthly for rent and bills, has cut his grocery budget to $40 a week to cope with a 25-cent SamTrans bus fare hike in February 2009, while preparing for another one coming this February.

"What's more important, food or a bus pass?" said Irwin, 29. "(I) can't pay all that money."

Irwin is known as a transit-dependent rider, part of the estimated one in three Bay Area adults without access to a car, who are now being forced to pay more for less service. Because they can't simply hop in a car to cope, transit-dependent riders may be hit hardest by the trouble facing local transit.

San Jose resident Lupe Medrano, who is blind and does not work, relies on the Valley Transportation Authority's bus and paratransit service to get around. VTA raised daily paratransit fares from $3.50 to $4 recently and, like Irwin, Medrano has had to pull money from essentials or ride less often, leaving her unable to go out as often for social purposes, and she has stopped attending De Anza College in Cupertino.

"We're in a recession — a lot of people are hurting. We're on fixed income," said Medrano, 52. "It's just making it more and more difficult for people to get out there and do what they need to do for daily living."

The current service cuts and fare hikes are likely to produce significant lifestyle changes, as when AC Transit slashed service by 12 percent and upped fares 15 cents in 1996. At the time, 524 passengers surveyed by an independent research group said they took 35 percent fewer weekly bus trips for work, about half as many trips for shopping, health care and senior centers and two-thirds fewer recreation trips.

Some advocates have been critical of transit agencies for trimming off-peak service, because transit-dependent commuters often work low-income jobs during odd hours. Recently, Caltrain increased midday wait times from half-hourly to hourly, and BART reduced weeknight and weekend service from every 15 minutes to every 20 minutes, while keeping commute-time schedules intact.

Transit agencies say they have little choice because their commute-time trains attract more riders and are the most economically feasible.

Some low-income riders may have little recourse but to purchase cheap cars, keep them uninsured and hope they don't break down, said Guillermo Mayer, staff attorney for San Francisco-based civil rights law firm Public Advocates.

"It pushes people deeper into poverty," Mayer said. "People are becoming, I think, desperate. This is an immediate impact that they see every single day. They don't have the option of not sending their kids to school; they don't have the option of not showing up at work."

Some advocates have also criticized transit agencies for funding costly projects that benefit mostly affluent residents.

Cash-strapped BART, for instance, decided in December to spend $492 million on a people-mover for fliers headed to Oakland International Airport. The board that distributes San Mateo County transit sales tax money recently moved up $15 million for a new ferry line designed for South San Francisco biotech workers coming from Oakland's Jack London Square.

"I believe we should service more who are transit-dependent, those who have no other means to get to doctors, work, school, whatever," longtime South San Francisco Councilwoman Karyl Matsumoto said. "That should be the priority."

Vallejo resident Michael Ella, who works part-time in San Francisco as a guest services usher at AT&T and Candlestick parks, can't afford to buy a car and takes Vallejo Transit and BART. With reduced bus service, Ella, 32, often has to walk home, alongside Interstate 780, from the El Cerrito del Norte BART station.

The journey takes him 3½ hours, and with BART fare hikes it costs $18.20 round trip. He often stays overnight with a friend in San Francisco.

"About 40 percent of my expenses go to commuting," Ella said. "That sometimes drives me crazy."

For seniors, the disabled and others who have trouble walking or getting rides, the service cuts endanger their ability to do basic errands such as grocery shopping.

"Obviously, the concern that I have is that people will not get out of their house. They'll be isolated," said Metropolitan Transportation Commission Vice Chairwoman Adrienne Tissier, a San Mateo County supervisor.

Others will turn to friends and family members for rides, which may be quicker and cheaper but can chip away at their pride, independence and freedom, advocates and riders say.

Those at Community Gatepath, a Burlingame-based nonprofit that serves the disabled, including Irwin, said it looks like Irwin has lost weight since he cut back on grocery bills. Irwin, who works as a landscaper there, is worried the worst is yet to come.

"If we get cuts, then we can't come to work," said Irwin, who says the job makes him happy. "It takes your goals away from you."
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Posted: 01/13/2010 01:01:56 PM PST
Updated: 01/13/2010 09:54:54 PM PST

For Bay Area transit agencies to emerge stronger from their plight, extensive changes will be required, most likely including new taxes and a shift in the way commuters travel and leaders plan cities.

Experts, politicians, commuters and others interviewed for this series offered many ideas that could spur ridership and help public transit providers crawl out of budget holes. But there is doubt that the region can muster the political will to make the solutions happen.

Several experts say land use and planning will play a key role.

Environmentalists, transit agencies and regional government bodies have lobbied for more homes, shops and amenities near train and bus centers, a concept known as transit-oriented development. The 257,000-square-foot Fruitvale Transit Village in Oakland is a shining example, but there are others in the works or standing in Pleasant Hill, Richmond and elsewhere.

The most recent government survey available, from 2000, shows those living within a half-mile of a Bay Area ferry or train station were four times more likely than others to take transit. Only 4 percent of those whose homes and jobs were more than a half-mile from a station used transit, compared with 42 percent for those with both within a half-mile.

"This is the way of the future," said Allison Brooks, chief of staff at Oakland-based Reconnecting America, which operates the Center for Transit-Oriented Development. "The trend is there, and a lot of cities want to make this happen. But the investment isn't there."

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There are questions, however, about whether these developments actually increase transit ridership. UC Transportation Center Director Robert Cervero, a leading transit-oriented development expert, said many transit village residents fulfill the "self-selection" process, meaning they are longtime transit riders who move near a transit hub.

There are also few opportunities left to build transit villages without cities either buying out or forcing out property owners. Of the 96,614 acres of land within a half-mile of Bay Area transit stations, only 5,488 acres are vacant or underutilized, according to a Reconnecting America land analysis.

Aside from building close to hubs, some have suggested more corporate shuttles, such as the one Genentech runs from some BART and Caltrain stations to its South San Francisco campus.

Not surprisingly, most agree land-use advances will do little to soothe Bay Area transit troubles if train and bus operators can't solve their financial problems and offer convenient, affordable rides. If middle-class commuters are to ditch their cars for transit, it may be up to local governments, transit agencies and taxpayers to help make that shift.

The federal government has in recent memory provided no operational support for transit agencies. The state had provided a key lift, long supplying Bay Area transit agencies with $100 million to $200 million a year until 2006. But in the past three years, the state has taken $532 million that would have gone to Bay Area transit budgets and another $189 million from the Metropolitan Transportation Commission.

Despite the California Transit Association's successful lawsuit against the practice, local transit agencies expect the state to find an accounting trick to satisfy the judge's demands and keep the money in state coffers for at least the next few years.

Local taxpayers take the hit?

That leaves local taxpayers to foot the bill.

Of the 12 transportation-related tax measures put on ballots in 2008 by local agencies in California, voters passed 11. The Bay Area is aiming for a November 2012 ballot measure that would provide regional revenue for transit.

A group of transit officials, regional planners and outside experts called the Transit Sustainability Project are tasked with figuring out what type of measure it would be, and a gas tax of up to 10 cents has been gaining steam among some leaders. MTC Executive Director Steve Heminger calls the gas tax a carbon tax by another name, and says $4-a-gallon gas is the best thing that ever happened to transit ridership.

But cash flow is only half the budget picture. The Transit Sustainability Project is also aiming to cut costs, possibly by merging some of the 28 transit agencies that run similar routes and pull profits away from one another.

Experts and transit agencies are mostly divided into two camps: Those believing in the "if you build it, they will ride it" mentality say taxpayers should invest in infrastructure, such as rail extensions and new stations, while others lobby instead for more efficient service. The latter may be more realistic given recent funding problems.

Because of the economic backdrop, turning around local transit troubles is likely to prove challenging and require support from both politicians and the public, said Susan Shaheen, co-director of UC-Berkeley's Transportation Sustainability Research Center.

Although the shift would be costly and time-consuming, it would be a significant one for commuters, the economy and the environment.

As U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said in a recent blog post: "Our future rides on public transportation."
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Rush-hour Muni service cuts; no extension of parking meter hours. Another brilliant expression of MTA's "Transit Last" policy.

I'll say it again: get a bicycle and save the $70 monthly cost of rapidly declining transit 'service.'
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I'll say it again: get a bicycle and save the $70 monthly cost of rapidly declining transit 'service.'
Unfortunately, that doesn't work for everyone. Some people are disabled or just old.

I'm in the latter category but, alas, not yet old enough for a senior fare.

For some time now, my solution has been a 2-wheeled vehicle but a motorized one.
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When I address forumers I'm assuming they aren't senior citizens, because forum demographics skew young. Obviously old people aren't going to bike. If younger people do, however, there will be more room on the bus and train for those who have no alternatives. As frequency declines and lines are cut, believe me--you're going to need all the space you can get on Muni.
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Unfortunately, that doesn't work for everyone. Some people are disabled or just old.

I'm in the latter category but, alas, not yet old enough for a senior fare.

For some time now, my solution has been a 2-wheeled vehicle but a motorized one.
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When I address forumers I'm assuming they aren't senior citizens, because forum demographics skew young. Obviously old people aren't going to bike. If younger people do, however, there will be more room on the bus and train for those who have no alternatives. As frequency declines and lines are cut, believe me--you're going to need all the space you can get on Muni.
Of course more room on the bus and train means fewer people paying fares means less revenue means service gets even worse.
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Of course more room on the bus and train means fewer people paying fares means less revenue means service gets even worse.
We get service cuts even when Muni ridership increases--ours was one of the only agencies to actually gain victims, er, riders this past year. Yet lines are shut and even rush-hour service is being culled.

If you want to encourage everyone to continue to suffer Muni's degraded system and spiraling costs, be my guest. I will continue to point out a viable alternative for many current Muni victims who have had enough.
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Old Posted Jan 21, 2010, 12:37 AM
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Hold on there, BART...

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Oakland airport connector could lose $70 million
Michael Cabanatuan, Chronicle Staff Writer
Wednesday, January 20, 2010


BART and the Metropolitan Transportation Commission could lose $70 million in federal stimulus funds to build the Oakland Airport Connector unless the agencies quickly complete an analysis of whether the project adversely affects minority communities.

Transit advocates and social justice groups have argued for the past year that BART needs to do such an analysis, and consider less-costly alternatives to the 3.2-mile automated rail link between the Oakland Coliseum BART Station and Oakland International Airport. But BART and the commission said it was not necessary to do an analysis, and that similar studies had been done as part of the environmental review for the project.

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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BAQH1BKTTM.DTL
I assume the study they want to perform is on the economic impact (higher fares) this new extension would have on minority communities? Because I don't believe this would run through any residential areas.
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