Tempe Development Thread

[combusean]

What is the footprint for this big old lady?

[ASUSunDevil]

Really cool to see a crane there finally! Here's some history on the site via an azcentral article covering USA Place (proposed in 2013):

"The shopping center at Mill Avenue and University Drive, which was built in 1956, was bought by ASU in 1983 for $5.5 million. Since that time, a number of development proposals have fallen through.

• In 1987, ASU proposed a $42 million plan to transform the center into an office and shopping center beginning in 1994. The plan called for a six-story, $25 million office building for universityadministration and various other ASU activities, a one-story $17 million retail center and underground parking.

• In 1992, a 20-year ASU master plan showed a new gateway to the campus through a renovated Tempe Center. Plans included a diagonal pathway from the corner into the university's center to provide a pedestrian link to downtown Tempe, along with a mixture of single-story and multistory buildings housing campus commercial uses, office space, academic areas, restaurants, shops and underground parking. In 1998, it was announced that ASU was finishing up negotiations with developers and those plans were moving forward. Nothing ever happened.

• In 2004, ASU suggested a new $500 million mixed-use project for the property, which it had renamed the Arts and Business Gateway District. It included space for the College of Business, Fine Arts College and Architecture College, as well as general academic space, retail, a boutique hotel, conference and lecture space, residences for both students and non-students and a grocery store."

[muertecaza]

Originally Posted by combusean

What is the footprint for this big old lady?

The black box:



Will be interesting to see what the plans end up being for the parcel south of 9th St.

[ciweiss]

^^^^

I was wondering why Chillis has not been demo'd yet.

[azsunsurfer]

I drove by Union last night, and yes they are actively starting work on the Canopy Hotel.

Below the "Black box" wasn't ASU approved to build another parking structure? I assume just west is still where the Omni is going? There was an article the other day in the Biz Journal that banks are beginning to be warned not to loan against anymore hotel/ office projects right now. I doubt the well is going to dry to just yet but with hotel projects in the works (Westin/ Canopy/ Watermark/ 2200 Rio Development/Kimpton if it ever happens) I wonder if the Omni might miss this cycle? Also I wonder what ASU will do with that remaining SW corner of the lot?

[Sekkle]

Webcam link for Mirabella...
https://app.oxblue.com/open/Mccarthy/Mirabella

[muertecaza]

Originally Posted by Sekkle

Webcam link for Mirabella...
https://app.oxblue.com/open/Mccarthy/Mirabella

Nice! Thanks for posting. If we get Westin or the Collective going, it will be cool to see them in the background from this angle.

[combusean]

Originally Posted by muertecaza

The black box:



Will be interesting to see what the plans end up being for the parcel south of 9th St.

Thanks. For some strange reason I thought this wouldn't be subject to zoning review because it's ASU. Clearly, I am out of the loop.

[azsunsurfer]

If you look careful in the background of the webcam, you can see the Collective site is fenced off and there is a truck on site. Can't see the Westin site with the building in the way.

[Obadno]

ANOTHER 400k sqft of offices for Tempe town lake located on the old Southshore location

Not sure if they are just taking over the old southshore plan or if its been scrapped.

https://azbigmedia.com/kdc-and-the-weitz-company-will-develop-tempe-waterfront/

KDC will develop the Class A build-to-suit project and Weitz will serve as the general contractor for up to 400,000 square feet of office space. Smith Group JJR will be the project architect.

“KDC believes now is the perfect time to bring this prime office space to the Tempe market, which is surrounded by the lively college campus at Arizona State University and the Novus Innovation Corridor,” said Peter Yates, KDC Phoenix market director. “The site is surrounded by a strong amenity base with easy access to State Loop 202 via McClintock. The vibrant surroundings, quality of talented labor and the investment ASU is making here, is very attractive to corporate users.”

Tempe Waterfront is located on the waterfront at E. Rio Salado Parkway and Vista Del Lago Drive, next to the Arizona State University campus and just east of the new State Farm Campus. The site offers all of the immediate amenities of Tempe but provides access outlets to avoid the city’s heavy traffic.

[PHXFlyer11]

Originally Posted by Obadno

ANOTHER 400k sqft of offices for Tempe town lake located on the old Southshore location

Not sure if they are just taking over the old southshore plan or if its been scrapped.

https://azbigmedia.com/kdc-and-the-weitz-company-will-develop-tempe-waterfront/

Confused where this is still. Is it the site DIRECTLY next to Marina Heights/State Farm? That'd be cool to see that corner developed.

[muertecaza]

Originally Posted by PHXFlyer11

Confused where this is still. Is it the site DIRECTLY next to Marina Heights/State Farm? That'd be cool to see that corner developed.

Yeah, it's not exactly clear, but Vista del Lago is the street that bisects the South shore / Pier 202 lots. Based on the rendering putting the building on the water, I assume this is a lot immediately adjacent to the Pier site, or thereabouts.

[phoenixwillrise]

Originally Posted by Sekkle

Webcam link for Mirabella...
https://app.oxblue.com/open/Mccarthy/Mirabella

thank you

[azsunsurfer]

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/pro...e-west/pomeroy-hotel-in-tempe.html?img=1

Outdated proposal for where Mirabella/ Omni is going in now.

[vandypandybear]

777 Tower @ Novus - 105' - 170,000 gross sf



https://www.tempecenterforthearts.com/Home/ShowDocument?id=63945

https://www.tempe.gov/Home/ShowDocument?id=65354

[somethingfast]

Originally Posted by vandypandybear

777 Tower @ Novus


https://www.tempecenterforthearts.com/Home/ShowDocument?id=63945

We all know I got "height" issues, but that, sir, is no "tower"!!

[combusean]

^ It approaches 120' at the parapet. It just looks stubby because it occupies a fairly large block.

And I think these large blocks and wide open spaces are why Tempe is killing Downtown Phoenix for new offices, especially those within larger master planned developments. Companies want big bloated buildings with large floorplates instead of the slender towers of yore and generous parking ratios. Just like 80s Central Corridor, the parking is provided in adjacent garages instead of integrated into the building probably because it's much cheaper.

A few hundred thousand square feet is still very much "built to be sold" but rather than 250' towers they're in 120' stubs like 777. The proper zoning and abundance of space in Tempe when you factor in Novus will probably kill the prospect of a major new office tower for Phoenix in the near future.

Phoenix will still have plenty of room for startups and other sorts of businesses that go for Class B space, so all is not lost. The key here is developing homegrown businesses that want to locate in Phoenix despite the challenges. It wins in every front for younger demographics.

[Obadno]

Originally Posted by combusean

^ It approaches 120' at the parapet. It just looks stubby because it occupies a fairly large block.

And I think these large blocks and wide open spaces are why Tempe is killing Downtown Phoenix for new offices, especially those within larger master planned developments. Companies want big bloated buildings with large floorplates instead of the slender towers of yore and generous parking ratios. Just like 80s Central Corridor, the parking is provided in adjacent garages instead of integrated into the building probably because it's much cheaper.

A few hundred thousand square feet is still very much "built to be sold" but rather than 250' towers they're in 120' stubs like 777. The proper zoning and abundance of space in Tempe when you factor in Novus will probably kill the prospect of a major new office tower for Phoenix in the near future.

Phoenix will still have plenty of room for startups and other sorts of businesses that go for Class B space, so all is not lost. The key here is developing homegrown businesses that want to locate in Phoenix despite the challenges. It wins in every front for younger demographics.

I still have faith that as the entertainment and residential growth downtown improves offices will follow hoe block 23 and central staking do for offices will be the litmus

As I have said before it’s only worth central city prices if there is a neighborhood worth paying for Judy like residential, Tempe was developing urban residential infill years before offices started taking root .

[muertecaza]

Fence is up for Park Place on the SE and SW corners of Terrace/Apache. Tempe development map shows that they're in review for a building permit so I suspect we'll see the D'Lite building and the trailer park demo'd and construction starting any time.

Construction also seems to have started on the subsidized housing at Apache/River. And construction continues at Metro 101 at Apache/101.

Pretty cool to do Google Street View back to 2011 and see the amount of residential construction that has clustered around the light rail. Senior housing by the 101, Fore, Gracie's, Nexa all new since then. With Metro 101, Eastline Village subsidized housing and Park Place, there will continue to be construction for a while. And if other projects that have been sitting in the pipeline for a while like the market rate Eastline Village buildings, Gilbane project, Daybreak Apartments, ArtHAUS project etc. get built, it could finally start to look like a nice, cohesive little corridor.

[vandypandybear]

Originally Posted by combusean

^ It approaches 120' at the parapet. It just looks stubby because it occupies a fairly large block.

And I think these large blocks and wide open spaces are why Tempe is killing Downtown Phoenix for new offices, especially those within larger master planned developments. Companies want big bloated buildings with large floorplates instead of the slender towers of yore and generous parking ratios. Just like 80s Central Corridor, the parking is provided in adjacent garages instead of integrated into the building probably because it's much cheaper.

A few hundred thousand square feet is still very much "built to be sold" but rather than 250' towers they're in 120' stubs like 777. The proper zoning and abundance of space in Tempe when you factor in Novus will probably kill the prospect of a major new office tower for Phoenix in the near future.

Phoenix will still have plenty of room for startups and other sorts of businesses that go for Class B space, so all is not lost. The key here is developing homegrown businesses that want to locate in Phoenix despite the challenges. It wins in every front for younger demographics.

If Tempe builds out like the Grand Canal Quay in Dublin, I wouldn't be upset. Their blocks are broken down in similar chunks to the Novus project.