I'll keep this to one post as to not clutter everything up even more.
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Originally Posted by VANRIDERFAN
What is foolish is attempting a reno on a structure that was cobbled together in the first place. If you were going to the trouble of knocking down the east side, you might as well knock the whole thing down and start fresh. Trust me, once you open up the west side there would be numerous "discoveries" that would drive the cost higher and higher.
The noise issue is a red herring. At most 10 dates for a max 30 hrs of noise. Is Cathedral that delicate towards noise? Do we hear the same complaints when Buffalo Days are being held and the longer period of noise from the Midway?
I like the looks of the stadium, I like the clean lines and the horseshoe design.
It's getting built, there was a referendum, everyone had their say. Learn to deal with it.
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The west side was not cobbled together. It was a purpose built building with plenty of life left it it were allowed to exist. Even if you found lots on the west side it would still only be half the cost of the new stadium.
The noise issue is not a red herring because I'm not talking about the noise in general, I'm talking about the specific design which will direct sound towards the open south end. It's literally a trumpet towards the nearest residential area. If it had been designed as imagined, as a bowl, it would have been better. But yes, all of the people on this forum who live in deep suburbia of course won't care. And no of course it's not going to ruin anything but it will be obnoxious when it is happening.
Let's be clear:
there was no referendum on the stadium. Now if there was I am quite confident the stadium would have succeeded anyway. I'm not saying I'm in the majority, I'm saying that there are many, many people against it, including Rider fans and season ticket holders. But of course people are for it: people love spending other people's money.
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Originally Posted by Festivus
While I agree that generally stadiums are a waste of money in a place like Saskatchewan where they are either useless for 1/2 the year or too expensive if enclosed, I also think that sometimes spending money on something with no possibility of returns is okay. I am okay with government spending money on museums, libraries, roads, etc without them making money, as they serve a public good. One could argue that sports facilities also serve this purpose. True, many do not use them, but the same can be said for libraries or museums.
So I agree specifically in this case with regards to a stadium, but not in general. If we only spent money on things that can pay for themselves back, then there wouldn't be much around to live for in any place.
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One could argue many things, but I utterly and completely disagree that the cultural and social value of a professional, money making sports team is anywhere near the level of cultural and educational places like libraries and museums. Those are explicitly designed to be non-profit. The Riders are a profit driven enterprise. The public good is infrastructure, not occasional sporting events.
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Originally Posted by micheal
I totally agree with u brutallydishonest. Stadiums are a waste of money and dont make money. As are libraries, recreation facilities, pools, parks, museums, baseball diamonds,soccer fields, cultural centers,etc,etc,etc.
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Everything you've listed has a legitimate social or cultural function. Public funding of education, art, sports and exercise are good and well. But there's a easy way to differentiate: all of those things are necessary because they don't make money. The Riders are not a public entity. They are
profit making company. It's not a bunch of books and art. It's not a bunch of 10 year old kids getting exercise. It is not the purpose of the government to subsidize a company and people
watching sports.
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Originally Posted by thefourthtower
The new stadium will change this province for ever like it or not she's being built just imagine that whole area from the CPR lands to the exhibition grounds once it's redeveloped it's going to be amazing the stadium is the catalyst for the redevelopment of an old and decrepit and embarrassing area .the old lady is tired she's outdated her time has come , it's all about vision for change without it decay and despair sets in , the stadium is the vision wait till you see her and the surrounding lands then make judgement the minds of many will change , wow Regina is an amazing city this will make it more so , She's being built fact is fact
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Good to see you are actually able to address any real points. But I'll address yours. Or maybe I should just call you Pat.
No it will not change the province in any meaningful way. The province is already crazy about the Riders and new stadium won't add to that. It'll only make the seats more comfortable.
The availability of the CP lands will not be as transformative as you believe. The availability of land is merely one part of the larger puzzle. Office vacancy is already very high and unlikely to lower. Condo projects are stagnating or never starting in the core area. The CP lands provide an opportunity but they are not a panacea like you think.
The fact that you think a stadium is somehow going to fix all of Regina's ills is simply stunning.
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