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[1ajs]

Originally Posted by optimusREIM

Lots of hubris here. Covid was excellent evidence that people when given the chance will simply comply with the herd. Everyone wants to think they’re the ones who would be part of the resistance in a tyranny, when precisely the opposite is true. We also discovered that people in positions of authority are way more likely to wield it heavy handedly than to exercise restraint. The mismanagement of authority during the pandemic has set back trust in public institutions decades.

i made my decisions based on what experiants were telling me and these wernt plp in the mdeia these are friends that work at the lvl 4 lab on arlington

heres what really was the issue our medical system couldnt handle a slight uptick that covid brought so plp started dieing so we collectivly paniced globally and coudnt agree properly and the confusion resulted in misinformation and bs with the trump bs that was going on it didnt help much and so allot of missinformation spewed from drinking bleach and other crap

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by optimusREIM

Lots of hubris here. Covid was excellent evidence that people when given the chance will simply comply with the herd. Everyone wants to think they’re the ones who would be part of the resistance in a tyranny, when precisely the opposite is true. We also discovered that people in positions of authority are way more likely to wield it heavy handedly than to exercise restraint. The mismanagement of authority during the pandemic has set back trust in public institutions decades.

With all due respect, your people are hard workers, and have done wonders in your respective communities (Steinbach, Winkler, etc). However, why are Mennonites so opposed to vaccinations? I mean it happened during COVID in Manitoba, and now it's happening in Texas too:

Texas Mennonites at center of measles outbreak choose medical freedom over vaccine mandates

[bodaggin]

Originally Posted by optimusREIM

Lots of hubris here. Covid was excellent evidence that people when given the chance will simply comply with the herd. Everyone wants to think they’re the ones who would be part of the resistance in a tyranny, when precisely the opposite is true. We also discovered that people in positions of authority are way more likely to wield it heavy handedly than to exercise restraint. The mismanagement of authority during the pandemic has set back trust in public institutions decades.

Spot on. Herd mentality, obedience of authority, and most importantly: the desire to control others when you're put in a situation that you--yourself can't control.

This is the very essence of tyranny. People say tyranny comes from government. Not really. It comes ourselves. Our neighbors. Just scroll up this thread and look at the inner tyrant seeping out: "you're selfish if you don't get a vaccine". And so on: "Do as I say, or else". No one ever stops and asks themselves "wait, am I actually the belligerent?". Ego doesn't allow that reflection, because the self can do no wrong.

I oppose tyranny of all kinds. Foreign and domestic.

Comfort in numbers is no excuse for doing something morally wrong. And 9/10, forcing someone to do something is morally wrong. Whether it's to get a vaccine, or coercing someone to join a country they don't want to.

[pspeid]

Originally Posted by optimusREIM

Lots of hubris here. Covid was excellent evidence that people when given the chance will simply comply with the herd. Everyone wants to think they’re the ones who would be part of the resistance in a tyranny, when precisely the opposite is true. We also discovered that people in positions of authority are way more likely to wield it heavy handedly than to exercise restraint. The mismanagement of authority during the pandemic has set back trust in public institutions decades.

The definition of hubris is "exaggerated pride or self confidence". To me that perfectly describes the anti-vax contingent who felt their dubious "science" supported their self-centred agenda of "I do what I want/to hell with everyone else" at the expense of the public good. Spinning compliance with legitimate public health protocols as some kind of brainless herd instinct while trumpeting selfishness as some kind of noble stand against "tyranny" is probably the most egocentric stance one can take. If regarding the needs of others and a willingness to put my own agenda aside for the public good makes me part of a "herd", then mooo, baby!

[bodaggin]

With Hudson Bay Company going under, someone should buy the name and use it as the name and/or holding company for the proposed national trade corridors incoming.

It'd be fitting. HudBay is the oldest Canadian company, one which Canada was founded on, and specifically around trading routes. Many of these routes are similar in modern times to the ones 300 years ago. This action would fit well as a rebirth of the HudBay name, in tandem with a rebirth of Canada as a country. Especially given our current sovereign predicament, and its reliance on trade access and the north.

Hudson Bay Corridors
Hudson Bay Trade Company
Hudson Bay Global
You get the idea

[Stormer]

Poilievre Tweet today:

BREAKING: If I am elected Prime Minister, I will unlock the Port of Churchill to ship clean Canadian energy to the world.

[drew]

^ it's not locked up. Just ignored, under appreciated and under funded.

If I am not mistaken, PP also publicly announced plans for 3 new arctic military bases which did not include the only existing arctic port.

Hey PP - 2 birds and one stone and all of that.

[cheswick]

Originally Posted by Stormer

Poilievre Tweet today:

BREAKING: If I am elected Prime Minister, I will unlock the Port of Churchill to ship clean Canadian energy to the world.

Did he actually say clean Canadian energy? Cause the energy I assume he's proposing to ship is far from clean.

[pspeid]

Terms like "unlock" and "unleash" seem to be common code-words among conservatives. Basically they mean ignoring or eliminating Indigenous consultation; and environmental and labour protections; to maximize profits for whatever private firms are given access to the industry in question.

"Clean" Canadian energy is hilarious lip-service meant to appeal to voters that want to feel a trace of environmental responsibility without actually having to do anything.

He's making similar promises to Ontario to "unlock" the mineral resources in the so-called "ring of fire" region in NW Ontario. That's been discussed in Ontario for a while now, with unaddressed concerns by a number of Indigenous groups being a major factor in slowing development.

[bodaggin]

Originally Posted by drew

If I am not mistaken, PP also publicly announced plans for 3 new arctic military bases which did not include the only existing arctic port.

Hey PP - 2 birds and one stone and all of that.

True that. They're talking about Iqaluit, and Tuktoyuktuk. Like whaaaa? Have they ever looked at a map. Churchill is central. Resolute Bay is another very important location. It gets full eyes on the pinch-points of the Northwest Passage.

Map: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Resolu...MDMxNy4wIKXMDSoJLDEwMjExNjM5SAFQAw%3D%3D

One thing is for sure, this will be the wildest election in Canadian history. Don't hoard your ideas. Release them, loudly. Now is the time to actually change this country.

[Stormer]

Originally Posted by cheswick

Did he actually say clean Canadian energy? Cause the energy I assume he's proposing to ship is far from clean.

Canadian energy, including oilsands are subject much more stringent environmental requirements than hydrocarbon and coal production in most other major producing countries.

[Stormer]

Originally Posted by bodaggin

True that. They're talking about Iqaluit, and Tuktoyuktuk. Like whaaaa? Have they ever looked at a map. Churchill is central. Resolute Bay is another very important location. It gets full eyes on the pinch-points of the Northwest Passage.

Map: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Resolu...MDMxNy4wIKXMDSoJLDEwMjExNjM5SAFQAw%3D%3D

One thing is for sure, this will be the wildest election in Canadian history. Don't hoard your ideas. Release them, loudly. Now is the time to actually change this country.

Churchill is not threatened by other countries. It is the Northwest passage and far north that are under threat. This is why we need to plant our flag further north.

[bodaggin]

Originally Posted by Stormer

It is the Northwest passage and far north that are under threat. This is why we need to plant our flag further north.

Iqaluit is basically the northern tip of Nfld on the Hudson Strait. It's nowhere near the Northwest Passage, nor is is very far north.

If you want to protect the Northwest Passage, then you want a base at Resolute Bay. Because Resolute Bay is smack dab in the middle of the Northwest Passage, right at its pinch point.

[bomberjet]

PP's not going to win so it doesnt matter. It's a great election promise for sure and as we've discussed needs to be a focus. But ya haha

It's crazy to me how the polls have shifted based on Trudeau not being there. All the Con talking points have vanished (axed the tax, trudeau) and they still just cling to Carney being Trudeau 2.0.

"Carney didnt axe the tax. He cant just axe it. It has to go through parliament which they blocked, bro." lmao.

[pspeid]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

"Carney didnt axe the tax. He cant just axe it. It has to go through parliament which they blocked, bro." lmao.

LOL. That's along the lines of complaining the Liberals "cheated" by not keeping Trudeau as leader and allowing themselves to be defeated in a confidence vote.

[Stormer]

Originally Posted by bodaggin

Iqaluit is basically the northern tip of Nfld on the Hudson Strait. It's nowhere near the Northwest Passage, nor is is very far north.

If you want to protect the Northwest Passage, then you want a base at Resolute Bay. Because Resolute Bay is smack dab in the middle of the Northwest Passage, right at its pinch point.

Baffin Island is not Nfld. If you are coming from anywhere other than Iceland, one will go right past Frobisher Bay (Iqaluit) to reach the NW Passage. We should definitely have some sort of military presence at Resolute - maybe some anti-ship missiles disguised as ice bergs. LOL

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

It's crazy to me how the polls have shifted based on Trudeau not being there. All the Con talking points have vanished (axed the tax, trudeau) and they still just cling to Carney being Trudeau 2.0.

This is not exactly true. When Trudeau announced his resignation, the CPC had roughly a 27 point lead. The rise of the Liberal Party started to occur in the days leading up to when Trump's tariffs were to go in to effect. The impassioned speech Trudeau gave was a turning point for the Liberals.

By the time Carney was chosen as PM, the CPC and Liberals were virtually tied. Incidentally, Justin Trudeau's approval ratings went from 22% at the beginning of the year, to 47% at the end of his term. Say what you want about JT, but he handled the Trump annexation threats very well, and stuck up for Canada.

[bomberjet]

Ya thats true.

[Wpg_Guy]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

This is not exactly true. When Trudeau announced his resignation, the CPC had roughly a 27 point lead. The rise of the Liberal Party started to occur in the days leading up to when Trump's tariffs were to go in to effect. The impassioned speech Trudeau gave was a turning point for the Liberals.

By the time Carney was chosen as PM, the CPC and Liberals were virtually tied. Incidentally, Justin Trudeau's approval ratings went from 22% at the beginning of the year, to 47% at the end of his term. Say what you want about JT, but he handled the Trump annexation threats very well, and stuck up for Canada.

Trudeau is the whole reason we are in this mess to begin with. Like it or not Trump does not put up with public criticism or disrespect and Trudeau spent the last eight years doing exactly those two things. He endlessly criticized the mega movement and disrespected Trump, specifically days after the election citing America failed to elect a female president burning the bridge he attempted to build by hustling down to maralago to bend the knee.
Trump’s vengeful nature is why he is coming after Canada so hard, he holds the cards economically. He’s made it very clear his dislike for Trudeau & Freeland, Canada is his new “just Rosie O’Donnell”, he’s not going to back down now, he will punish Canada.

Trudeau should have relinquished his power immediately after the US election and the threat of tarrifs so a new government with a longer mandate was in place to negotiate as Trump came into office.

[pspeid]

Originally Posted by Wpg_Guy

Trudeau is the whole reason we are in this mess to begin with. Like it or not Trump does not put up with public criticism or disrespect and Trudeau spent the last eight years doing exactly those two things. He endlessly criticized the mega movement and disrespected Trump, specifically days after the election citing America failed to elect a female president burning the bridge he attempted to build by hustling down to maralago to bend the knee.
Trump’s vengeful nature is why he is coming after Canada so hard, he holds the cards economically. He’s made it very clear his dislike for Trudeau & Freeland, Canada is his new “just Rosie O’Donnell”, he’s not going to back down now, he will punish Canada.

Trudeau should have relinquished his power immediately after the US election and the threat of tarrifs so a new government with a longer mandate was in place to negotiate as Trump came into office.

I don't buy this. Trump's ego is so fragile anything Trudeau said or did that didn't equate with kissing Trump's ass would be interpreted as a "betrayal". Thinking that Trump is someone who can be negotiated with as a rational adult is pure fantasy. Trudeau certainly made his share of mistakes (some would say more than his share) but standing up to Trump in his last few weeks in power wasn't one of them.