[Halifax] Skye Halifax (1565 Granville) | 66 m | 2 x 21 fl | U/C - Page 26

RyeJay · #**501** Posted **Oct 29, 2011, 4:28 AM**

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Originally Posted by -Harlington-

Maybe they know something we should

or just agree with everyone on here about the proposal .

Normally I would suspect Heritage Trust is simply not worried about Skye ever being considered.

But on the other hand, United Gulf has been almost awkward in their confidence that this proposal will be approved and built.

Even so, I'm sure most people would agree that if Heritage Trust knew of something like this going forward they would be continuously sounding the fog horn.

Haliobserver · #**502** Posted **Oct 29, 2011, 1:53 PM**

Maybe because they know this is just a huge joke. Actions speak louder than words and Saberi has done a lot of talking and no building for a couple years now. It's almost as if he is purposely trying to stay in the spotlight and wage a PR campaign that he is still relevant.

halifaxboyns · #**503** Posted **Oct 30, 2011, 7:01 AM**

I can see two possibilities: They are thinking along the lines of the majority of us and that no application will ever come forward - thus they remain silent. Or that in the event an application does come forward, it will be shot down by council before it even gets a chance to begin through the system. Keep in mind, that the process to undertake a DA requires an initiation report to Regional Council which they must agree on. Since this will likely involve amending a bunch of policies, it wouldn't be Community Council voting on this - it may be regional council. So they may assume that most will look, laugh and toss it.

I wouldn't be as confident considering that it was mainly the suburban members of council that added weight to the approval. We'll have to wait and see.

Empire · #**504** Posted **Oct 30, 2011, 1:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by halifaxboyns

I can see two possibilities: They are thinking along the lines of the majority of us and that no application will ever come forward - thus they remain silent. Or that in the event an application does come forward, it will be shot down by council before it even gets a chance to begin through the system. Keep in mind, that the process to undertake a DA requires an initiation report to Regional Council which they must agree on. Since this will likely involve amending a bunch of policies, it wouldn't be Community Council voting on this - it may be regional council. So they may assume that most will look, laugh and toss it.

I wouldn't be as confident considering that it was mainly the suburban members of council that added weight to the approval. We'll have to wait and see.

The first step after a valid application is submitted is a staff report. Staff either recommend approval of the application or rejection. A draft DA usually accompanies the staff report when they recommend approval. The Twisted Sisters app. went from staff report to Planning Advisory Committee to HAC then Council/public hearing. I wonder what the process will be here considering this site is grandfathered and not under HRMxD rule yet.

It would be hard to imagine this application receiving a warm and fuzzy reception at Council if the staff report, PAC & HAC all recommend against it.

Waye Mason · #**505** Posted **Oct 30, 2011, 2:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by Empire

The first step after a valid application is submitted is a staff report. Staff either recommend approval of the application or rejection. A draft DA usually accompanies the staff report when they recommend approval. The Twisted Sisters app. went from staff report to Planning Advisory Committee to HAC then Council/public hearing. I wonder what the process will be here considering this site is grandfathered and not under HRMxD rule yet.

Is it? I thought that when the last DA was ended the site reverted to HRMbD rules?

Empire · #**506** Posted **Oct 30, 2011, 4:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by Waye Mason

Is it? I thought that when the last DA was ended the site reverted to HRMbD rules?

Clarification anyone?

- Is the Twisted Sisters DA still valid?
- If so, could they stick a shovel in the ground tomorrow?
- Is the Skye application under HRMxD or grandfathered?

halifaxboyns · #**507** Posted **Oct 30, 2011, 6:48 PM**

The DA for twisted is still there as Regional Council hasn't discharged it. The only part of the agreement that would require amendment is the commencement of construction.

But an initial report from staff would be required to consider MPS amendments to do Skye. Let's face it; it doesn't meet any rules and that doesn't have to be approved by council. They could shrug it off and vote to not initiate the process and if they did, there would be no appeal.

Here is an example of a typical initiation report and as you can see by the alternatives on page 4 the only two options are to proceed or not to proceed. So a complete application is still required - but the process doesn't start until the report is given thumbs up or down by council. But this is only for an application that would require an MPS amendment.

W.Sobchak · #**508** Posted **Oct 30, 2011, 7:33 PM**

ignore this post as my misunderstanding was cleared up by halifaxboyns

bedfordite_93 · #**509** Posted **Dec 5, 2011, 4:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by haligonia

Err... That's the Chrysler Building, not the ESB. I do agree though, they are both stunning.

EDIT: It seems the photo has been changed. Oops!

Yeah, that's the Empire State Building

RyeJay · #**510** Posted **Dec 24, 2011, 3:59 AM**

Maybe if the portions of the Skye Towers exceeding the ramparts height could be within context--and embrace something more gothic--then perhaps council may approve?

Nifta · #**511** Posted **Dec 24, 2011, 11:38 AM**

Lol!

kph06 · #**512** Posted **Jan 20, 2012, 2:30 PM**

According to the Skye Halifax twitter feed, they expect the application to go before council by the end of January. That is sure to be an absolute circus. I am sure this will be shot down.

RyeJay · #**513** Posted **Jan 20, 2012, 2:51 PM**

...by the end of the month? Why are they doing this?

Is this a necessary process in order for them to continue holding onto the property as is...because they're wasting their time with this proposal, unless they wish to revert to their formerly approved Twisted Sisters.

Wishblade · #**514** Posted **Jan 20, 2012, 7:16 PM**

It's been said before. Perhaps they want to start really tall to shock the public, and then submit a shorter proposal at say 30-35 stories which comparitively sounds rather acceptable.

someone123 · #**515** Posted **Jan 20, 2012, 7:31 PM**

Yes, maybe they will say "oh, yes, we have listened to the people -- now only 40 storeys!"

It will be interesting to see the reactions of council, but I would have preferred just to have something on this site. Even the HbD 20 storey plan would be fine at this point.