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Old Posted Jan 19, 2023, 2:54 AM
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I don't get peoples obsession with canyons - personally I find the stretch of king between this location and king and james to be some of the most oppressive feeling unwalkable stretches in the entire city - from the bank to the AGH it's just so pedestrian unfriendly. The ellen faircloud part is just horrible.

I much prefer the feeling along james - where you have 3-6 stories and any high rises set back so theyre just there but don't feel like they are closing you in - that and canyons are notorious for lack of sunlight and being cold and windy.
In fairness, canyons are fun to drive through.
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2023, 2:56 AM
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I doubt we see anything new during construction. New businesses probably won’t open until construction is complete, it would be suicide to start a new business under those conditions.
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2023, 4:46 AM
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In fairness, canyons are fun to drive through.
Lol this is a city not a synthwave video lol
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2023, 1:32 AM
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I’d say it’s not the height that’s the issue, it’s just poor street level design.

There’s some pretty canyon parts of downtown Ottawa that are nice to walk down and then others that are hostile. Hopefully more of Hamilton’s high rises get a nicer street level in future.
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2023, 1:37 AM
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I’d say it’s not the height that’s the issue, it’s just poor street level design.

There’s some pretty canyon parts of downtown Ottawa that are nice to walk down and then others that are hostile. Hopefully more of Hamilton’s high rises get a nicer street level in future.
I think the issue is most designers just focus on what the height looks like at a distance - and since half the time the podium is partially made up of car storage they don't really care what the street level looks like - so most of the people who are advocating for height and canyons only really care about how things look from a distance whereas the rest want street and pedestrian friendly designs - heritage, stuff that's interesting to look at as you're walking.

You never truly get an appreciation for the taller stuff craning your neck up at street level - we really need balance. William thomas building imo was done perfectly - heritage street view - 3-6 stories average - and a pushed back tall thin building that isn't noticeable much from street view, allowing the podium to take most of the visual, and the actual big building can still be admired from far away.

It's one reason I hate cobalt towers - they had such a GOOD opportunity for heritage at street level on a street side of unbroken heritage design and they, imo, screwed it up with a bland podium design. Core urban right next door really sets the contrast of what it COULD have been.

That stretch on king past james/the bus station was HORRIBLY designed - esp the south side. If it had had more business fronts it would have been a lot better but now it's like a dividing line so anything past this part doesn't even feel like part of the core - it feels.. scattered, with no reason to ever go there from the core.
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2023, 6:10 PM
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Lots of blue skin going up today, tells me more cladding is to be installed soon.



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Old Posted Jan 25, 2023, 8:58 AM
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Ahh the north side of the street feels like a barely clinging on reminder of the past.. all that parking was once all rowhouses.. sigh..
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2023, 10:11 PM
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Old Posted Feb 3, 2023, 2:10 PM
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Old Posted Feb 3, 2023, 2:44 PM
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Occupancy for this is apparently still scheduled for September - I'm looking forward to seeing if they can meet that. No wonder this one has been absolutely flying. That's a very aggressive timeline.
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Occupancy for this is apparently still scheduled for September - I'm looking forward to seeing if they can meet that. No wonder this one has been absolutely flying. That's a very aggressive timeline.
Perhaps they will occupy lower floors while top floors are still being built. I struggle to believe all 31 floors will be occupied September 1.

They are pouring the last floor, so cladding and interior work should speed up significantly in the coming months.
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Old Posted Feb 4, 2023, 2:46 AM
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This almost feels like Dubai with all these things going up at once all beside each other - like our city suddenly woke up and started building after decades of sleep.
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Old Posted Feb 4, 2023, 3:56 AM
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This almost feels like Dubai with all these things going up at once all beside each other - like our city suddenly woke up and started building after decades of sleep.
More like the market realized it was time to build here again. Hamilton has been a "city in transition" for a long time... it's finally ripe for some positive change.

Hopefully the market only naps if there's a shift or downturn in the economy, but the demographics and growth trends in the broader region should keep Hamilton on an upward trajectory.
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Old Posted Feb 4, 2023, 4:01 AM
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More like the market realized it was time to build here again. Hamilton has been a "city in transition" for a long time... it's finally ripe for some positive change.

Hopefully the market only naps if there's a shift or downturn in the economy, but the demographics and growth trends in the broader region should keep Hamilton on an upward trajectory.
Well if it does we'll just have a lot of new empty buildings.. like we already do..
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Well if it does we'll just have a lot of new empty buildings.. like we already do..
Hamilton always has demand for residential. Just not much demand for Class A or other office space. Is Stelco tower still vacant? or has it been filled in a couple of floors at a time?
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Hamilton always has demand for residential. Just not much demand for Class A or other office space. Is Stelco tower still vacant? or has it been filled in a couple of floors at a time?
I’m hopeful this is a chicken and the egg situation with the downtown residential growth in the last decade. It would be nice if some employers started moving downtown. Preferably medium-sized firms in the region looking for downtown office space.
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2023, 5:26 AM
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Yes the last thing we need is to be reduced to yet another "bedroom community" for say Toronto.
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2023, 7:13 PM
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Yes the last thing we need is to be reduced to yet another "bedroom community" for say Toronto.
I just meant currently. Office space demands could easily change. Would be great to see a new office tower in Hamilton within this decade.

And Hi Shawn! Niagara is already becoming just that.

More like GTA retirement community than bedroom as that implies they still work in Toronto
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Old Posted Feb 15, 2023, 2:15 AM
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More facade has been installed on the King st side. You can finally see a finished section covering a full storey and a bit. It’s handsome.
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