[Burnaby] City of Lougheed | Phase 1 Completed

[seamusmcduff]

At this point, maybe we need to consider making "luxury" a legal term. What about this is luxury?

Mostly joking, but it's infuriating how "luxury" is tacked onto absolutely everything. These are incredibly bland towers, they aren't luxury.

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

I've rented in the area for 30 years its a scary situation.

as from the article.

Renting a modern studio out for over $1,900 is impressive and good on them.

[Repthe250]

Originally Posted by seamusmcduff

At this point, maybe we need to consider making "luxury" a legal term. What about this is luxury?

Mostly joking, but it's infuriating how "luxury" is tacked onto absolutely everything. These are incredibly bland towers, they aren't luxury.

And if you’re going to classify it as luxury, despite what the inside looks like, everyone sees the outside, maybe put some effort in. From the freeway, sky train, and for miles in several directions, why must you make it look so dull? I guess they just figure, this is BC. They will literally rent themselves.

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by Repthe250

...they just figure, this is BC. They will literally rent themselves.

yup, this is it right there. developers can build cheap crap, and sell it for major $$$. why would they waste money when they don't have to?

[Lexus]

2022 November 9

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New traffic lights

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Untitled by Lexus LX600, on Flickr

[dleung]

That's a lot of blank wall. Can't imagine why anyone would pay 85% of downtown prices to live such a long elevator ride up and look straight into other towers, almost Hong Kong-style, through punched windows only slightly larger than that of older walk-ups.

Back when I was shopping for a 2-bedroom corner unit, I basically discarded any listing from my realtor that didn't feature a fully glazed corner living room. It's insane that they would waste those premium corners to save a bit of window cost.

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by dleung

It's insane that they would waste those premium corners to save a bit of window cost.

is it to save on window cost, or is it to deal with insulation/heating/cooling/etc?

i don't know what the requirements for condos are, but the BCBC step code is a big thing for SFH. it can be hard to achieve certain thresholds with the more windows you have.

i work in an office tower build in 2016, it has a window wall of course. and man, you can really feel the cold/draft through those windows if you're sitting next to them. i was surprised with that in a building so new...

[dleung]

Plenty of new towers continue to be fully glazed - see Concord Brentwood. It comes down to the quality of the window wall.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by dleung

Plenty of new towers continue to be fully glazed - see Concord Brentwood. It comes down to the quality of the window wall.

I think it's LEED and solar gain.
The quality of the glass would play a role, but Concord Brentwood, for example, has the wrap-around balconies to provide sun shading.
Likewise at Amazing Brentwood.

Cherish the older buildings with floor-to-ceiling and wall-to-wall windows.

The only recent condo tower I can think of that has expansive glass without balcony shading is the former Trump Tower, and it may have been approved so far beforehand that it didn't have to comply with the new(er) LEED requirements - or they went with more expensive darker tinted glass.

I think that the LEED goal is to reduce vision glass in condo towers to less than 50% of the surface
- which is brutal for BC's dark winters.

This is for passive design, but you get the idea...


https://vancouver.ca/files/cov/passive-design-large-buildings.pdf

See also this guide:
https://www.bchousing.org/publications/BC-Energy-Step-Code-Guide-Supplemental.pdf

[SpongeG]

Nov 10

this is a little plaza outside the east entrance of Hudson's Bay, the entrance to the bay itself is closed off.

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I wonder if the part with the red showing will become CIBC? their space inside the mall is so old and gloomy.
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feels very stripey
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[officedweller]

Nice space outside The Bay.
If it's CIBC, then at least it's not as loud as BMO.

[Klazu]

I am not able to tell from those photos but have they shrunk southbound North Road to 2 lanes? Pure madness if they have, and Burnaby does the poorest job in traffic planning (or lack thereof) in Metro. Lougheed is building up to being a congested mess.

[Lexus]

Originally Posted by Klazu

I am not able to tell from those photos but have they shrunk southbound North Road to 2 lanes? Pure madness if they have, and Burnaby does the poorest job in traffic planning (or lack thereof) in Metro. Lougheed is building up to being a congested mess.

It's 3 lanes SB.

[dleung]

Originally Posted by officedweller

I think it's LEED and solar gain.
The quality of the glass would play a role, but Concord Brentwood, for example, has the wrap-around balconies to provide sun shading.
Likewise at Amazing Brentwood.

Cherish the older buildings with floor-to-ceiling and wall-to-wall windows.

Amazing Brentwood has equal or less balcony coverage than Lougheed. Likewise with the Station Square towers, which is like 80-90% vision window-wall

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by dleung

Amazing Brentwood has equal or less balcony coverage than Lougheed. Likewise with the Station Square towers, which is like 80-90% vision window-wall

It's a combination of the various factors in that table above.
Each project will approach it differently depending on the developer.

Here's the west and south facades of the newest Station Square tower
- deeply recessed balconies on the west (and east) facade, and a combination of balconies and spandrel on the south facade.

Originally Posted by Klazu

and sun shading balconies on this one too:

Originally Posted by Lexus

2020, December 26
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[Jimbo604]

Originally Posted by Lexus

2022 November 9

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]Lexus LX600[/url], on Flickr

Old school: gas station
New school: high density tower above mall and next to rapid transit

[officedweller]

Pics by me today:

[SpongeG]

the tower next to the occupied one had its light feature on tonight.

[officedweller]

What type?
Rooftop?

[SpongeG]

the green wall part at the top is lit