Public Disorder & the Decline of Vancouver's Livability

[MIPS]

Parked my car down on Triumph and Victoria Friday night and got some sleep until 3AM when someone on a bike and pulling a cart came down the street smacking car windows with a rock.

I have three scuffed windows. ICBC's window chip package only applies to rock hits on the windshield. At least two other people came out because you could hear him coming down the street (*crack* *crack crack* *crack* *crack crack crack*" and they were not lucky and had broken windows. I thought it was someone over at the Return-It depot smashing electronics for the copper.
████ this neighborhood. I'm sleeping somewhere else now when I'm visiting. I don't need to be replacing out-of-production window glass because some unwashed statistic wants to have fun.

[giallo]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Thanks for starting a business in the City of Vancouver! What a surprise, Murray Hotel residents. And people dare to say people are NIMBYs if they don't want it's kind of housing in their neighbourhood.

@SaveOurCityVan
@saveourcityvan
·15h
TODAY! Blatant daytime robbery & crime at Howe & Helmcken ladies wear resale store. The female asian clerk was beaten & bear spayed by two drug addicts. VPD found the store clerk vomiting on the street in front of her store due to the bear spray. Murray Hotel resident suspects.

https://twitter.com/saveourcityvan/status/1576010814917857280

I had a meeting at Chateau Granville last Tuesday, and Helmcken between Granville and Seymour was pretty rough. There were two separate groups on the sidewalk shooting up all day. Not something I expected to see around there.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by giallo

I had a meeting at Chateau Granville last Tuesday, and Helmcken between Granville and Seymour was pretty rough. There were two separate groups on the sidewalk shooting up all day. Not something I expected to see around there.

Yep, it’s bad there. I’m sure it has nothing to do with the Overdose Prevention Sitevthe city allowed to be open at Seymour and Helmcken. It’s crazy that residents literally have no recourse when the city allows one of these to be dropped into their neighbourhoods.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Yep, it’s bad there. I’m sure it has nothing to do with the Overdose Prevention Sitevthe city allowed to be open at Seymour and Helmcken. It’s crazy that residents literally have no recourse when the city allows one of these to be dropped into their neighbourhoods.

So you don't think the reason the City supported VCH opening a Supervised Injection Site in Yaletown was because there were even more individuals and groups on the sidewalk (and in the laneways) shooting up all day?

Because people on the sidewalk, shooting up all day, are clearly not using the Supervised Injection Site, although their risk of an overdose on the street is far greater than in the supervised site. That suggests we need more outreach workers and/or street nurses encouraging people to use the supervised site.

[Migrant_Coconut]

And before the usual suspects jump in, there's a new detox facility being built on Clark Drive because the old one is at capacity. It's at capacity because a very large number of people already want to quit.

[giallo]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

And before the usual suspects jump in, there's a new detox facility being built on Clark Drive because the old one is at capacity. It's at capacity because a very large number of people already want to quit.

Now this is what I like to hear. I just looked it up, and it's the real deal. The government is really putting its money where its mouth is with this. The number one complaint I hear from friends/people wanting to get clean is that it takes forever to get a spot in a facility. Hopefully, this helps alleviate that in a big way.*

It's a nice-looking building, and it's in my hood. It doesn't look like any work has started though. I walked past that corner recently, and it was still a grassy hill.


*Detox facilities are just one step to getting clean. The biggest hurdle is fixing the trauma that leads to wanting to use again. One of my best friends has been to half a dozen facilities from here to Mexico, and he's as bad as he's ever been. Sexual abused as a child, and recently giving his best friend an accidental fatal dose of fentanyl has really messed him up. He deleted all social media recently, and is living somewhere in the DTES, but no one knows where. Maybe a state-of-the-art facility like this can provide him with the therapy he needs for that big breakthrough.

I hope so.


The building in question

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Changing City

So you don't think the reason the City supported VCH opening a Supervised Injection Site in Yaletown was because there were even more individuals and groups on the sidewalk (and in the laneways) shooting up all day?

Because people on the sidewalk, shooting up all day, are clearly not using the Supervised Injection Site, although their risk of an overdose on the street is far greater than in the supervised site. That suggests we need more outreach workers and/or street nurses encouraging people to use the supervised site.

Come on, it brings that culture and those people down there in droves. There's a big difference with the OPS being there. It's night and day.

[NewfBC]

Quite the story..

Man linked to death of Noelle O'Soup was deemed 'danger to public' — then released from immigration custody

CBC News has uncovered disturbing new details about the deceased occupant of a Vancouver apartment where the remains of a 14-year-old Indigenous girl and a woman were found this spring.

Van Chung Pham was ordered deported from Canada six years before police found the bodies of Noelle O'Soup and an as yet unnamed woman in his home in the Downtown Eastside neighbourhood this May.

The CBC has learned Noelle and the other victim were not the first women to die in Pham's presence.

Immigration authorities declared him a danger to the public because another woman died of an overdose in his former residence in Vancouver and because he sold fentanyl to vulnerable drug users.

Yet Pham was released from immigration custody with virtually no supervision in October 2020 as there appeared to be no hope of removing him from Canada in the face of a pandemic and foot-dragging Vietnamese officials.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/pham-noelle-osoup-danger-death-1.6597863

Ron.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by NewfBC

Quite the story..

Man linked to death of Noelle O'Soup was deemed 'danger to public' — then released from immigration custody

CBC News has uncovered disturbing new details about the deceased occupant of a Vancouver apartment where the remains of a 14-year-old Indigenous girl and a woman were found this spring.

Van Chung Pham was ordered deported from Canada six years before police found the bodies of Noelle O'Soup and an as yet unnamed woman in his home in the Downtown Eastside neighbourhood this May.

The CBC has learned Noelle and the other victim were not the first women to die in Pham's presence.

Immigration authorities declared him a danger to the public because another woman died of an overdose in his former residence in Vancouver and because he sold fentanyl to vulnerable drug users.

Yet Pham was released from immigration custody with virtually no supervision in October 2020 as there appeared to be no hope of removing him from Canada in the face of a pandemic and foot-dragging Vietnamese officials.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/pham-noelle-osoup-danger-death-1.6597863

Ron.

Noelle O'Soup's story is heartbreaking on so many levels. Society shouldn't be letting 13 year olds get into the kind of situation she did. There's got to be some way to strengthen resources at the band level so that indigenous groups are equipped to intervene without sending a kid off to foster care.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/noelle-osoup-family-1.6546297

That's a pretty damning indictment of our immigration system's ability to deport people as well.

[Migrant_Coconut]

I'd be more worried about domestic immigration:

Vancouver police say commercial break and enters and mischief incidents with glass broken in the downtown core have increased 64 per cent since 2019 and Global News has learned one of the suspects in a recent window-smashing rampage caught on camera in Gastown is a convicted killer from Alberta.

Curtis George McCallum, 48, is accused of throwing a brick into several windows at the TD Canada Trust branch at 109 West Hastings Street on Sept. 12, causing almost $70,000 in damage.

McCallum’s criminal history dates back to 1992 in Edmonton. In 2009, he was sentenced to nine years in prison for manslaughter and aggravated assault in the Christmas Eve 2006 killing of his aunt and the stabbing of her common-law husband...

link

Guess Alberta wasn't Calling for him.

[whatnext]

Olympic Cauldron vandalized to the tune of $10k. Wouldn't the Convention Centre have 24/7 security?

Vandals cause $10K of damage to the Vancouver Olympic Cauldron (PHOTOS)
Sarah Anderson
Oct 3 2022

After seeing part of the Olympic Cauldron smashed in Vancouver, police and officials have confirmed that it was the act of vandals.

The vandalism was discovered on Saturday, October 1, by staff at the Vancouver Convention Centre.

“Each piece of glass on the Vancouver 2010 Cauldron is custom-made. We are currently looking into the cost to replace the damaged piece,” said Vancouver Convention Centre media relations....

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/damage-vandals-olympic-cauldron

[MIPS]

Global says the intrusion alarm went off around 4:30 on Saturday morning. That's about an hour after I had people trying to break my windows and technically not too far on a bike.
Weird coincidence.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by dreambrother808

And “certainly more” means what specifically? Please share your credentials and relevant expertise.

Certainly not getting into a lame pissing contest with you, and especially you.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

I mean look around the area and you'll figure out that you have to keep your doors locked and only allow people in if they actually seem like they are there to shop. That ain't Robson or Yaletown.

Why do they need to do that when so many here think our city is safe? Even Robson & Yaletown businesses get smashed and broken into from time to time, not to forget quite a few unprovoked attacks and at least a random murder in Yaletown this year.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by giallo

Now this is what I like to hear. I just looked it up, and it's the real deal. The government is really putting its money where its mouth is with this. The number one complaint I hear from friends/people wanting to get clean is that it takes forever to get a spot in a facility. Hopefully, this helps alleviate that in a big way.*

It's a nice-looking building, and it's in my hood. It doesn't look like any work has started though. I walked past that corner recently, and it was still a grassy hill.


*Detox facilities are just one step to getting clean. The biggest hurdle is fixing the trauma that leads to wanting to use again. One of my best friends has been to half a dozen facilities from here to Mexico, and he's as bad as he's ever been. Sexual abused as a child, and recently giving his best friend an accidental fatal dose of fentanyl has really messed him up. He deleted all social media recently, and is living somewhere in the DTES, but no one knows where. Maybe a state-of-the-art facility like this can provide him with the therapy he needs for that big breakthrough.

I hope so.

I like this:

I walked past that corner recently, and it was still a grassy hill

It says a lot about how this City and Province are treating the crisis. It's like, "What crisis?! We are very safe!"

[Vin]

Originally Posted by Changing City

So you don't think the reason the City supported VCH opening a Supervised Injection Site in Yaletown was because there were even more individuals and groups on the sidewalk (and in the laneways) shooting up all day?

Because people on the sidewalk, shooting up all day, are clearly not using the Supervised Injection Site, although their risk of an overdose on the street is far greater than in the supervised site. That suggests we need more outreach workers and/or street nurses encouraging people to use the supervised site.

There was not a single drug addict shooting up freely all over the place in that neighbourhood BEFORE that stupid overdose site was opened. Thanks to authorities, they have expanded the DTES to this neighbourhood, and businesses are now fleeing from this area. Remember Wings the very popular restaurant/pub? Gone. Or My Sister's Closet shop selling clothing items just kitty corner to the shoot-up site? Gone. I see bewildered Granville Chateau guests quivering in fear in the morning while waiting for the hop-on, hop-off bus because zombies and pushers are all around, with not a single cop nearby to take them off the streets. Is that how we want people to see out city? You decide.

Agree with you that there should be more outreach people, but with cops to make those unwilling to leave to receive help leave. We need a huge crack-down now. Dilly-dallying won't do anything. The very least authorities can do about the injection site is to clean up the surroundings and NOT allow crackheads to set up camp every single day. If they can't even do the very basics, they have no right to set up these injection sites to allow more people to be hooked.

[Vin]

Still so safe!

Police praise bystanders for stopping stranger attack in downtown Vancouver
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/bystanders-stop-stranger-attack-downtown
The 29-year-old woman had just entered her apartment building lobby near Davie and Howe Streets when a man followed after her.
The suspect grabbed the woman, threw her to the ground, and assaulted her, according to police.

Six bystanders prevent violent attack on woman in downtown Vancouver
https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/local-news/vpd-violent-attack-downtown-vancouver-rescue-5903439
Several people stopped a violent attack on a woman last night in downtown Vancouver, say Vancouver Police.

Vigilantes taking up the responsibilities of police and government?

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by Vin

It says a lot about how this City and Province are treating the crisis. It's like, "What crisis?! We are very safe!"

On 1636 Clark Drive and 132-1395 East 1st Avenue, I believe the DP was issued in late 2021. So they probably just got their BP.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Vin

Still so safe!


Vigilantes taking up the responsibilities of police and government?

Hmm, one of the junkies that hang out at Timmie Ho's on that corner, or more work by the lovely residents of the Murray Hotel?

[Vin]

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