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Old Posted Aug 10, 2022, 6:27 PM
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Okay, my next set of Kelowna Skyline pics!


KelownaBusiness by Ian, on Flickr
Really digging the aesthetic of the 2 towers on the left, a few more buildings like those would make for a very cool skyline, especially against the dry mountain backdrop.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 10, 2022, 6:40 PM
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After the Cogswell redevelopment and the new buildings that will be added on the land, Scotia will barely even be visible from many angles. While not great at street level (although much improved with the recent ground-floor addition), it's a non-issue from a distance.
It will still be highly visible from most of the same angles as it is now

The Marriott, Historic Properties, and Granville Mall areas are unlikely to ever be built up any higher, for example. It would be less visible when crossing the MacDonald Bridge (which is probably where that last photo was taken from, with the Dockyards in the foreground). Parts of Scotia Square will actually be more visible after the Cogswell redevelopment - mostly the parking garages and Delta entrance area - because the interchange will no longer be (partially) blocking that view. But from most "flat-on" skyline angles (from the ferries or from Alderney, etc) I think Scotia Square will remain about as visible as it already is until well after Cogswell is built out.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 10, 2022, 7:24 PM
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Scotia Square seems like a good candidate for things like outline strip lighting or huge murals or projection mapping on the blank walls. It's one of those cases where the company that owns the complex doesn't have much incentive to do those things because they don't have trouble leasing out all of the space no matter how ugly/plain it looks from the outside. Hopefully the architects for the Cogswell redevelopment projects will find a way to tie things all together visually. I find a lot of recent developments have done a good job of that.

I actually wish there had been more of an effort to restore and enhance Scotia Square's original 1960s styling and keep it as a sort of period piece like PVM, but all of the new additions just look like leftover parts from the Nova Centre and are nice in isolation but make the overall complex look worse.
I like Scotia Square. But I agree, they need to lean into their midcentury aesthetic rather than try to downplay it.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 10, 2022, 7:52 PM
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It will still be highly visible from most of the same angles as it is now

The Marriott, Historic Properties, and Granville Mall areas are unlikely to ever be built up any higher, for example. It would be less visible when crossing the MacDonald Bridge (which is probably where that last photo was taken from, with the Dockyards in the foreground). Parts of Scotia Square will actually be more visible after the Cogswell redevelopment - mostly the parking garages and Delta entrance area - because the interchange will no longer be (partially) blocking that view. But from most "flat-on" skyline angles (from the ferries or from Alderney, etc) I think Scotia Square will remain about as visible as it already is until well after Cogswell is built out.
I don't think that's true at all. SS is most visible from angles similar to the one below and after the redevelopment is fully complete there will be several 10+ story buildings in the foreground which won't totally hide Scotia but will certainly obscure them. Even in the image q12 posted they'll be partly hidden.

The view from the south has lots of other highrises downtown which partly block them and the view head on from the harbour is of the narrow side which doesn't show much of them anyway.


by Earle Hickey on flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/earle/27805341014/


https://www.shapeyourcityhalifax.ca/cogswell-district/widgets/26366/photos/7009
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Old Posted Aug 10, 2022, 8:16 PM
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The view from the south has lots of other highrises downtown which partly block them and the view head on from the harbour is of the narrow side which doesn't show much of them anyway.
I guess the difference is that I'd still consider "only the narrow side being highly visible" to be "highly visible", and I think that making those surfaces more interesting would take them from being a worse-than-average feature of the skyline to potentially a better-than-average one.

Edit: from angles like this one, for example, the towers will always be (IMO) highly visible.

     
     
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I guess for me, I wouldn't actually consider the narrow side to be "worst than average". Yes the narrow side lacks windows which is a downside, but that angle also makes them look more tall and thin, which is a upside. So those two aspects plus their visual foot print being smaller sort of cancel out to just being average. But I suppose that's kind of subjective.
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j'aurais dû ajouter une balise de sarcasme

Seulement si vous dites quelque chose de pas stellaire de l'est du Canada. Si dégradant Calgary ou Kelowna c'est bien.


Cela dit, j'aime le développement Cogswell
     
     
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Back in a saner, less narcissistic era that caption would have read "Enjoy the summer!"

Because it's a season. Nobody owns it. That we all experience it in our own unique ways is an obvious given. Nobody actually needs affirmation of that. Solipsism used to be a bad word.

Harrumph.
     
     
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Seulement si vous dites quelque chose de pas stellaire de l'est du Canada. Si dégradant Calgary ou Kelowna c'est bien.


Cela dit, j'aime le développement Cogswell
Its inside joke kind of. You may have missed all that.
     
     
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Back in a saner, less narcissistic era that caption would have read "Enjoy the summer!"

Because it's a season. Nobody owns it. That we all experience it in our own unique ways is an obvious given. Nobody actually needs affirmation of that. Solipsism used to be a bad word.

Harrumph.
That's so interesting. It never so much as crossed my mind that there was anything different or objectionable about the statement. My eye reads "Enjoy your summer" and "Enjoy the summer" or just "Enjoy summer" as being completely interchangeable without assigning any special meaning or distinction to any of them.
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Old Posted Aug 11, 2022, 6:09 AM
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That's so interesting. It never so much as crossed my mind that there was anything different or objectionable about the statement. My eye reads "Enjoy your summer" and "Enjoy the summer" or just "Enjoy summer" as being completely interchangeable without assigning any special meaning or distinction to any of them.
The problem with getting older is that you notice these little things because you've seen the changes happen first hand. That makes the changes you don't like particularly annoying.

Funny, back in the 80s curmudgeons used to whine about "how are you?" and "have a nice day!" because they found the pretend concern grating. Now I'm an older guy, and I'm sick of so pointedly being ordered around all the time.

"Enjoy your rest of your day!" And on news/opinion sites: "Here's what to think about ____." "What you need to know about _____." Don't let the _____ change the way you understand ______."

It's not my day or summer, and I won't enjoy or learn about it at the behest of some anonymous news aggregator or social media algorithm.

Oh well, rant over. Back to browsing Kijiji for used guitars. I have to admit, I do find it handy that ads for online music stores pop up all over the web for me these days. All these commercial offerings associated with my personal interests make me feel less alone in the world.
     
     
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The problem with getting older is that you notice these little things because you've seen the changes happen first hand. That makes the changes you don't like particularly annoying.

Funny, back in the 80s curmudgeons used to whine about "how are you?" and "have a nice day!" because they found the pretend concern grating. Now I'm an older guy, and I'm sick of so pointedly being ordered around all the time.

"Enjoy your rest of your day!" And on news/opinion sites: "Here's what to think about ____." "What you need to know about _____." Don't let the _____ change the way you understand ______."

It's not my day or summer, and I won't enjoy or learn about it at the behest of some anonymous news aggregator or social media algorithm.

Oh well, rant over. Back to browsing Kijiji for used guitars. I have to admit, I do find it handy that ads for online music stores pop up all over the web for me these days. All these commercial offerings associated with my personal interests make me feel less alone in the world.


Snowflake. You get offended so easily. If you were to complain about most of today's music I would 100% agree with you though.
     
     
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After the Cogswell redevelopment and the new buildings that will be added on the land, Scotia will barely even be visible from many angles. While not great at street level (although much improved with the recent ground-floor addition), it's a non-issue from a distance.
I don't mind the look of the towers. Well, the hotel isn't pretty (in part to the improvements )or the podium parking garage. My concerns are layout and interface. Improvement have been made. New towers are proposed or underway. It's just a bit like when they cram new structures around an existing tower in the park in Toronto. (Parkway Forest) As much as I abhor demolition, (although it does excite me) I just don't see a solution to redeeming the northern half of the block.
     
     
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Wow, that’s a nice Vancouver pic!
     
     
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Love the angle and without the background it looks very un-Vancouver.
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