Oakridge Park | 13 Towers | 154m | 52fl | 5M sqft | U/C

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

If memory serves, back when it was planned as a two phase development, the peak of construction envisioned 17 tower cranes on site. I wonder if that will go up now that it's being done all at once.

Wasn't it originally 6 phases?

https://council.vancouver.ca/20140218/documents/p6appendixJ.pdf

The two phase plan seems like it was 2024 & 2026 so you assume that 17 is fairly close to the max number of cranes. Maybe an extra one for a total demo of the office tower.

[CondoInvestor]

I love this redevelopment $$$

[VantageHD]

Wow, this is an exciting development just on its own. The level at which they're building it makes it that much more! Suddenly very interested in this one. Thanks for the pictures - Keep'em coming

[madog222]

Render of the office tower from the development permit, this includes the transit plaza and underground connection from the station.


Image from Henriquez Partners Architects

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by madog222

Render of the office tower from the development permit, this includes the transit plaza and underground connection from the station.


Image from Henriquez Partners Architects

The one thing that strikes me is that it's not an "inviting" design from a pedestrian perspective.
The first big arched canopy invited you into the mall entrance - here, there's a structure blocking the way.
This hides the entrance behind a run-of-the-mill streetfront canopy.
I'd rather see a big open plaza like at Amazing Brentwood (albeit with 2 pavilions for the Canada Line access points), than a continuous canopy.

[madog222]

Yeah, this is differently underwhelming.

I'm still assuming that existing residential will be demolished sooner than later and we'll see a larger plaza.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by madog222

Yeah, this is differently underwhelming.

I'm still assuming that existing residential will be demolished sooner than later and we'll see a larger plaza.

If the strata owners weren't interested in selling out before the redevelopment took place, and are now living through the largest construction operation in the City's history, why would they sell out sooner rather than later?

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by madog222

Yeah, this is differently underwhelming.

I'm still assuming that existing residential will be demolished sooner than later and we'll see a larger plaza.

or would a larger building go there? that seems more likely.

Originally Posted by Changing City

If the strata owners weren't interested in selling out before the redevelopment took place, and are now living through the largest construction operation in the City's history, why would they sell out sooner rather than later?

this is probably more true. i am still super surprised they didn't sell... it would be interesting to see what conversations took place, etc. for them to decide to stay.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by Changing City

If the strata owners weren't interested in selling out before the redevelopment took place, and are now living through the largest construction operation in the City's history, why would they sell out sooner rather than later?

The average age back in 2014 was 73 years old so unless they sell out units to people with similar philosophies you assume if there are high enough maintenance projects/financial incentive to redevelop the site that it might happen.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

The average age back in 2014 was 73 years old so unless they sell out units to people with similar philosophies you assume if there are high enough maintenance projects/financial incentive to redevelop the site that it might happen.

I guess they'll come to market eventually, and the obvious move would be for Westbank to pick them off one by one. I think they can avoid the empty homes tax because the strata doesn't permit rentals. Nothing appears to have been sold in the past couple of years, so they don't seem to be dying off just yet!

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by Changing City

I guess they'll come to market eventually, and the obvious move would be for Westbank to pick them off one by one. I think they can avoid the empty homes tax because the strata doesn't permit rentals. Nothing appears to have been sold in the past couple of years, so they don't seem to be dying off just yet!

And Feathered Friend mentioned this back in 2019

Several months ago at the open house for the rezoning stage, I overheard a member of that small building's strata council express frustration that they couldn't get 80% of their building to vote in favour of selling. Take that for what it's worth.

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8511529&postcount=980

[hollywoodnorth]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

And Feathered Friend mentioned this back in 2019



https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8511529&postcount=980

nice thanks for that one. its only a matter of time. developers (westbank) will pick off the units 1 by 1 and get to the 80% point sooner than later.

I think what must complicate matters is that the retail below must be part of the Strata and who knows what the voting % split is. Any idea who owes the Retail and office portion of the building?

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by hollywoodnorth

nice thanks for that one. its only a matter of time. developers (westbank) will pick off the units 1 by 1 and get to the 80% point sooner than later.

I think what must complicate matters is that the retail below must be part of the Strata and who knows what the voting % split is. Any idea who owes the Retail and office portion of the building?

When they split off Terraces from the Oakridge mall property they only seemed to mention the 32 apartment strata units?

https://cd1-bylaws.vancouver.ca/CD-1(712).pdf

Maybe everything below was just managed by the shopping mall like the office building being torn down?

[hollywoodnorth]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

When they split off Terraces from the Oakridge mall property they only seemed to mention the 32 apartment strata units?

https://cd1-bylaws.vancouver.ca/CD-1(712).pdf

Maybe everything below was just managed by the shopping mall like the office building being torn down?

I see this here >> https://www.rew.ca/buildings/9000/the-terraces-vancouver-bc

Units in Strata
32
Units in Building
31


that extra "unit" in the Strata must be the owner of the Retail/Offices? but we dont know what the voting % is split like.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by hollywoodnorth

I see this here >> https://www.rew.ca/buildings/9000/the-terraces-vancouver-bc

Units in Strata
32
Units in Building
31


that extra "unit" in the Strata must be the owner of the Retail/Offices? but we dont know what the voting % is split like.

Some of the rezoning documents only list the top three floors units (32) as being part of the strata. Not sure how that works with the bottom three floors of mixed use.

https://council.vancouver.ca/20140218/documents/p6.pdf

[jollyburger]

Office/Transit Plaza DP

https://shapeyourcity.ca/650-w-41-ave-3

Seems like the grocery (including liquor store?) will be around 85,000 square feet.

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

Office/Transit Plaza DP

https://shapeyourcity.ca/650-w-41-ave-3

Seems like the grocery (including liquor store?) will be around 85,000 square feet.

Does anyone know where about in the new mall the liquor store might be located? I'm wondering if they are moving the big one near the mall into that space or will this be something else. Just cause that big one is pretty big since it is occupying an old Safeway building.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by Galaxy

Does anyone know where about in the new mall the liquor store might be located? I'm wondering if they are moving the big one near the mall into that space or will this be something else. Just cause that big one is pretty big since it is occupying an old Safeway building.

I think they said under building 6 & 7 in the basement

https://www.urbanyvr.com/design-of-towers-six-and-seven-at-oakridge-revealed/

[mcminsen]

April 28 '22, my pics

[officedweller]

Yup, hidden plaza.