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Old Posted Mar 5, 2022, 9:26 AM
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The 'I' is also very low compared to how much you have to spend on roads or even transit. And the 'R' increases exponentially with improvements to the network thanks to the network effect.

One also needs to factor in that a bike can do about 2000 mpg in terms of energy efficiency. Why would not want to encourage the most energy-efficient form of transparent ever invented? [sic]
That's assuming empty buses and empty trains. Canada Line: 140k passengers/day over 13 years against $2 billion = $3/user; Burrard: 3k bikers/day over a similar period against $58 million = $4/user (though in fairness, it drops down to $3/user if you count summers).

'Cause we're looking to make the most out of limited road space... and as long as the most efficient transportation is one of the least efficient uses of the road, bike lanes aren't always the most. They have their uses. People-moving is not one of them.

Edit: I'd also be interested to see how we got to 2000 mpg. Most sources I can find are giving me 600-1000 at best.

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Old Posted Mar 5, 2022, 9:55 AM
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That's assuming empty buses and empty trains. Canada Line: 140k passengers/day over 13 years against $2 billion = $3/user; Burrard: 3k bikers/day over a similar period against $58 million = $4/user (though in fairness, it drops down to $3/user if you count summers).

'Cause we're looking to make the most out of limited road space... and as long as the most efficient transportation is one of the least efficient uses of the road, bike lanes aren't always the most. They have their uses. People-moving is not one of them.

Edit: I'd also be interested to see how we got to 2000 mpg. Most sources I can find are giving me 600-1000 at best.
They didn't spend $58m on building bike lanes on Burrard Bridge. That was the estimated cost of widening the bridge to add bike lanes, (in 2009 that had risen to $63m, but $25 to $30 million was the cost of needed maintenance, repair and infrastructure upgrades.) The decision was taken to re-allocate existing road space instead, initially as a trial. That cost just under $1.5m.

The subsequent addition of a permanent second lane and reinstatement of the sidewalk for pedestrians, and the reconfiguration of the roads ant the northern end of the bridge cost $35m in, but included all the other work to the bridge that had to be completed whether there were bike lanes or not (1. Concrete railing replacement, Roadway lighting electrical replacement, Sidewalk overlay, Concrete repairs (soffits), Access improvements for marine spans, East side duct bank repair, and suicide prevention fencing and crisis phone installation). Only a proportion of the costs were related to the bike lanes.
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While the Red Wings were arriving at the Fairmont Pacific today, I noticed a balcony mock-up labelled 'Sanctuary'. It has a Butterfly vibe, but I believe it is for Oakridge and looked good.
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While the Red Wings were arriving at the Fairmont Pacific today, I noticed a balcony mock-up labelled 'Sanctuary'. It has a Butterfly vibe, but I believe it is for Oakridge and looked good.
It's probably this:

https://form3.com/portfolio/westbank-sanctuary-balcony/
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March 3 '22, my pic




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I'd say that's a white tower crane going up..."I got a fever, and the only prescription is more tower cranes"
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Thanks for the update. It's moving along quickly.
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The update is really appreciated, it so interesting to see all of that going on.
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That is NOT a multi Phase project
They're doing it in one go

That's a lot of cranes
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Some real progress has been made recently! Thanks for the great pics!
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Wow! thanks for the photos Lexus.

My brain hurts just looking at that and thinking about the coordination that has got to go into something like this!
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You you all welcome. I found a good point for taking photographs at parkade roof level.
I think I counted 11 cranes and I can tell that at least a couple more should come.
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was trying to get a pic of the cranes but the phone doesn't cut it.

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You you all welcome. I found a good point for taking photographs at parkade roof level.
I think I counted 11 cranes and I can tell that at least a couple more should come.
If memory serves, back when it was planned as a two phase development, the peak of construction envisioned 17 tower cranes on site. I wonder if that will go up now that it's being done all at once.
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It's a crane forest at Oakridge its awesome!
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